question for you industry folks!

[Cisco92]

really it all depends on the studio, some studios have both programs, some only have one

Shake has been discontinued as far as i know, so nuke really is taking its place somewhat, but shake still is a very powerful package

[dprgb]

Shake has been discontinued as far as i know, so nuke really is taking its place somewhat, but shake still is a very powerful package

I wouldn't be sure about Nuke taking it's place yet, a lot of work is still done on Shake... while it is getting talked up more, I think Shake is still the predominant package out there right now. And from a number-of-seats perspective, I think Fusion has a lot more seats out there than Nuke also.

Learn any of the node-based compositors, it doesn't really matter which one. While they each have their own quirks, the workflow is similar enough that you should be able to switch from one to the other fairly easily. You'd be better off learning Shake really well, get all the fundamentals of compositing down, and getting a great reel together... when you get hired somewhere you'll have to use whatever their pipeline uses anyway.

[Aruna]

rotoscoping and matchmoving... in a typical studio environment, are people assigned to do both? or are they usually given to someone specific for matchmoving only and rotoscoping only?

Different skillsets, different people. There'll usually be a roto/paint department and a matchmoving department.


also i'm learning shake right now, and plan to take the workshop here as soon as i familarize myself with the program, but it seems to me nuke is making a come up in the industry. so my question is, do most studios have both compositing programs for people who are more familar with one than the other? or what?

thanks for your time

Shake's fine.. Any node based compositing package would be fine to start on. Nuke is coming up, for sure, but lots of houses have yet to jump on that bandwagon. Some studios will have licenses of each, but most won't, as it's not cost effective. Now that Shake's dead, I would imagine that a studio might have several licenses for artists since they're cheap.

[mjca]

I'm only starting to learn compositing. I thought of working on After Effects but I guess I should have a node based, even though I don't fully understand term (Is it something like nesting? like hypergraph in Maya? well, that's how I picture it), program.

I should consider Shake, Nuke then Fusion. In that order? What do you think guys?

Opinions will be highly appreciated.

Thank you.

[NickJushchyshyn]

Assuming you have a Mac, Shake may be the best/easiest way to get started with nodal compositing.

It's cheap ($500 retail/$250 academic price .... which gets you a full retail copy).
It's powerful (Keep in mind it used to sell for $3000 ... it includes optical flow, multiple keyers and a lot more pro power).
It's got a broad and established user base to learn from. (Lots of tutorials and help around the web to get you going).

Having learned shake, Nuke was very easy to get going on when I landed here at d2 (down the hall from Aruna). The skillset you learn is very transferable.

If you DON'T have a Mac .... you might consider getting a Mac Mini or even just an old used Mac .... that combined with Shake is still often less expensive than a other nodal compositors ... even AEPro for that matter. If you've been Windows-only for your entire computer-using career, a Mac is a nice easy way to start getting your feet wet with Unix too .... which is another handy skill in the VFX world.

Good luck.

[mjca]

What was I talking about? Haha. Shake is the only option. Nuke is like a million dollars =]

Is Shake Mac-exclusive? I going to read on that. I hope not.

Thanks for sharing.

[mjca]

Those programs are unreachable. I'm just a student so I'm going to act like one and look for PLE edition. I hope I will find one. Anyone knows one? I'm going to shut myself now before this thread becomes my blog.

Have fun.

[NickJushchyshyn]

fxphd has courses in Nuke. When you enroll, you automatically get access to a VPN license for Nuke to use.

[Hugh]

No - no PLEs as far as I am aware.

And Shake is Mac/Linux only. Apple killed the Windows version when they bought it about 4 years ago.

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