Starship Troopers 3:Marauder Trailer!

[AikoWorld]

i`m not looking forward to this movie, dosen`t look interesting, fairly boring.

[Dennik]

Man... They really wanted it to go direct to video.

[Venkman]

Casper Van Dean is back! Good times. :)

Say what you will about those films- but Starship Troopers was memorable for me as Tippet's big comeback into the digital era. Go Phil!

[Pyke]

ST1 is honestly one of my favorite movies. I loved the propoganda in it, and generally loved how it didnt take itself to seriously....

...but this seems to be taking the slapstick a little to far.

Creature work looks solid for a 'direct to DVD' movie...although I think that the space shots dont hold up next to some of the Battlestar Galactica stuff (which I think is the pinacle of TV effects work!).

[visionmaster2]

it looks like a troma production..with a little more budget.

[Pentagramma]

Man, that was a bad, bad trailer. Looked and sounded very amateurish (not talking about the FX).

And it´s such a waste of a great material... The original book was way better than anything of this franchise. :shrug:

[Spater]

I'll probably watch it. Just because I love everything starship troopers no matter how bad it is.

[BookMansBlues]

someone gave me the second one the GC crature work was what you would expect from tippit enven on that budget..... atleast this new one has muzzel flashes on the guns... but....what else?


I can't belive that they could take such an intelligent book and make dribble out of it.

[Dias]

Uhm? Is it just me or the 1st one, a 10 year old movie, looks actually much better than this one? :D:sad::shrug:

I don't get it...

[RobW720]

ya know whats even better than the first starship troopers movie? the book.

the second one didnt have any of the magic or fun of the first movie. but who knows. maybe this one wont suck :-D

[rblitz7]

ummm this looks to be the worst of the three. Why can't they make a worthy sequel to the first one?

[calilifestyle]

I hope these one better then part 2 which was way off from the 1st one. maybe this time they will add the slims

nvm just saw the trailer. im not sure but i guess ill watch it

[Venkman]

ummm this looks to be the worst of the three. Why can't they make a worthy sequel to the first one?

I still curse the funding gods that prevented the movie from being made as the book was written: with giant powered suits with mass amounts of weaponry! "On the bounce" has a little more meaning when the mobile infantry has rocket assisted jumps that go hundred of feet.

Our suits give us better eyes, better ears, stronger backs (to carry heavier weapons and more ammo), better legs, more intelligence (in the military meaning...), more firepower, greater endurance, less vulnerability.
A suit isn't a space suit - although it can serve as one. it is not primarily armor - although the Knights of the Round Table were not armored as well as we are. It isn't a tank - but a single M.I. [Mobile Infantry] private could take on a squadron of those things and knock them off unassisted...

...Suited up, you look like a big steel gorilla, armed with gorilla-sized weapons.

The real genius in the design is that you don't have to control the suit; you just wear it, like your clothes, like skin.

The secret lies in negative feedback and amplification.

From Starship Troopers, by Robert Heinlein.
Published by G.P. Putnam's Sons in 1959

Although Casper Van Dien adds just enough cheese factor to make me want to get my Dad and brothers together for an alcohol fueled movie night. :)

[cresshead]

looks cool to me!:thumbsup:

simply loved the starship troopers roughnecks cgi show and the first film...never saw the 2nd film...i heard that was one to miss on!

[KOKE]

I liked the first movie for what it was...but this looks like cheap cr@p....:shrug:

JK.

:D

[fattyLees]

I still curse the funding gods that prevented the movie from being made as the book was written: with giant powered suits with mass amounts of weaponry! "On the bounce" has a little more meaning when the mobile infantry has rocket assisted jumps that go hundred of feet.


I loved the first movie ( never read the book) , but I'm afraid it probably wasn't the lack of a budget that made it depart from how it was originally written...1st Starship troopers has a budget of over 100 million and that was 11 years ago. The second film only had a budget of about 6 million. Say what you will about the 2nd one, but that was the first movie I ever animated on, so I have really fond memories.

Does anyone know who is doing this 3rd Starship troopers? I know it is just a trailer, but the weight is horrible on the bugs and even the spaceship is animated poorly.

[BigJay]

it was probably that teh armor would of covered up the actors and they didn't want that. look at judge dredd (stalone hardly wore the trademark helm from comics) Matrix 3 with the walkers that had no covering so you can see the actors when any sane person would of at least welded a few bits of metal over the pilot. to starship troopers where it went from full body walking tanks to extreme sports on the battle field. I think studios hate paying an actor millions then hiding him.'

[Venkman]

I loved the first movie ( never read the book) , but I'm afraid it probably wasn't the lack of a budget that made it depart from how it was originally written...1st Starship troopers has a budget of over 100 million and that was 11 years ago. The second film only had a budget of about 6 million. Say what you will about the 2nd one, but that was the first movie I ever animated on, so I have really fond memories.


I loved those bugs. Did you animate using that cool stop motion puppet device I read about in some 3d magazine back in 1997 or more with more "traditional" computer animation? Funny to use traditional to describe CG, but there it is. ;)



Does anyone know who is doing this 3rd Starship troopers? I know it is just a trailer, but the weight is horrible on the bugs and even the spaceship is animated poorly.

I don't know how reliable IMDB is as a source for this, but they list this info:


Special Effects by
Michael Broom .... creature designer
Cleve Gunderman .... moldmaker: Tatopoulos Studios
Heather Mages .... creature effects crew: painter
Cordell McQueen .... pyrotechnician
Paul Pieterse .... special effects technician
Anton Voster .... special effects coordinator
Khris Kaneff .... special effects assistant (uncredited)

Visual Effects by
Jim Davidson .... visual effects
Elaine Edford .... visual effects executive producer: 4Ward Productions
Magic J. Ellingson .... visual effects producers assistant: 4 Ward Productions
Zack Fox .... digital effects coordinator
Steven Lloyd .... visual effects
Tom Martinez Jr. .... digital effects artist
Roger Nall .... digital effects supervisor
Paul Salamoff .... visual effects coordinator
Dennis Skotak .... visual effects supervisor
Robert Skotak .... visual effects supervisor
Paul Taglianetti .... visual effects producer

[bugzilla]

Wow. Just watched the trailer and I mus say that looks really,really,really,really,really,really,really,really,really,really,really, BAD! Low, low budget in every respect.

[beaker]

I really liked the 1st and 2nd one and the cgi in the 2nd one still looked great. The animation on those bugs in the beginning of the trailer for 3 was horrible.

[P_T]

... atleast this new one has muzzel flashes on the guns... They either ran out of budget or time or both before they could add muzzle flash in the 2nd one.

Anyway, in a way, it's good that the CG doesn't look that good. Imagine some big film producers bidding for a vfx house "...but that studio did it on a direct-to-video budget.", you vfx guys would be screwed then. :D

[ha-dou-ken]

just saw the video.The acting...wow...

[Iciev]

Heinlein would be embarrassed.

[Boone]

They gave us Robocop MKII back in 1990(!) but cant even give us armoured suits in 2008 with supposedly advanced modern Computer technology? Thats bloody pathetic.

[Kid Dynomite]

It said 'Stage 6' at the end. Didn't they just go out of business?

Looks terrible. Casper Van Diem must be hard up for work. He looked like he was half-assed into it. 'Are we done yet?'

[opus13]

holy. crap. :sad:

who the hell funds this drivel? the first one was pretty decent, the second just wasn't worth staying awake for, but damn... "star trek the next generation" looked better --and that was done on a weekly basis.

[vfx fan]

I loved Starship Troopers, it's actually one of my favorite movies. The film is far more clever than people seem to give it credit for. It also had some of the best model work ever in a movie. To this day, I am still amazed by the attention to detail in the spaceships. Rest in peace, Thunderstone.

I also enjoyed Starship Troopers 2, which certainly wasn't bad for a direct-to-video release.

This one looks pretty good, too, and it's gonna have some space sequences! :buttrock:

[rartist]

Man, that was a bad, bad trailer. Looked and sounded very amateurish (not talking about the FX).

And it´s such a waste of a great material... The original book was way better than anything of this franchise. :shrug:

Wow, I agree. That trailer looks very bad. What needs to be done with it is to give the property to someone else and do something like "Frank Herbert's Dune" (in fact give it to those guys). Make "Robert A. Heinlein's Startship Troopers" mini series and have it loyal to the book.

[Howitzer]

Heinlein would be embarrassed.

After reading about the man, I have to agree.

[kelgy]

Havent read the book but I didnt care much for Starship Troopers when I first saw it--I thought it was heavy handed media satire (like a Robocop but less effective) Beverly Hills 90120 in space. But after september 2001, it took on a different meaning and relevance. I have much higher regard for it.
And the Brain Bug was cool.

[beaker]

Havent read the book but I didnt care much for Starship Troopers when I first saw it--I thought it was heavy handed media satire (like a Robocop but less effective) Beverly Hills 90120 in space. But after september 2001, it took on a different meaning and relevance. I have much higher regard for it.
And the Brain Bug was cool.The Verhoeven commentary on the dvd for the first movie is fascinating. He talks about how he modeled a lot of the media satire and how the heads of the military act around WWII. They actually told soldiers in WWII stuff like "Remember your training, and you will make it out alive".

[ThE_JacO]

The first one was a much better movie then most people give it credit for, and while it's true that lack of ape shaped exoskeleton is two cookie points less on the coolness scale, I think Verhoven was rather taking the piss rather then promoting and interpreting Heinlein's imaginary society of pro-army military socialist views.
The creature design and animation work on the first one was also nothing short of spectacular, easily an industry milestone.
This third one clearly aims to undo everything good the first one estabilished... methodically, bit by bit.

[kelgy]

I better check if my dvd has the commentary.

It isnt the special edition--it just says" filmmakers commentary" on it.

[fattyLees]

I loved those bugs. Did you animate using that cool stop motion puppet device I read about in some 3d magazine back in 1997 or more with more "traditional" computer animation? Funny to use traditional to describe CG, but there it is. ;)
No, the second one was all animated on the computer. I heard they used some sort of puppet that captured the data on the computer for the first one, but I really don't know anything about it. Someone who still works at Tippett would probably have a better idea.

[Cig74]

Verhoeven is what made the first one work so well. Too bad he bailed on the franchise.

[Garibaldi]

Johnny Rico?

What happened to the Filipino Juan Rico? Why change his name and nationality? I never understood that? Also, why are they using ballistic weapons? Even in the novel, the M.I. used some type of energy weapon. And where is the damned armor? That was half the reason, according to the novel, that the Mobile Infantry was CALLED the Mobile Infantry.

I do wonder if Verhoeven read the book. From what I've heard(never saw either of the movies) of his script, he seemed to have missed some important aspects of the novels political/social/military structure.

[Trojan123]

STARSHIP TROOPERS 3: MARAUDER

Link (http://www.filmschoolrejects.com/news/starship-troopers-3-marauder-movie-trailer.php)

Well... already it looks better than Starship Troopers 2.

[Trojan123]

No, the second one was all animated on the computer. I heard they used some sort of puppet that captured the data on the computer for the first one, but I really don't know anything about it. Someone who still works at Tippett would probably have a better idea.

For Jurassic Park, Phil Tippet created what was then called a D.I.D.- a digital inbut device. This was a a glorified stop motion puppet with sensors connected to a computer that read the input as motion.

Basically, the stop-motioned the dinosaur shaped device, those motions were fed into the animation program.

The dinos were stop motion with CG rendering.

For Starship Troopers, he re-used the idea and made a bug shaped device that did pretty much the same thing.

[ThE_JacO]

I do wonder if Verhoeven read the book. From what I've heard(never saw either of the movies) of his script, he seemed to have missed some important aspects of the novels political/social/military structure.

I think he did, and I don't think he ever meant to celebrate Heinlein's social and political views and contents, which (together with other factors) might be why the movie is so distant from the book.

[madheavy]

...Although Casper Van Dien adds just enough cheese factor to make me want to get my Dad and brothers together for an alcohol fueled movie night. :)

Casper Van Dien? I thought that was Vanilla Ice!
http://humormeblog.beloblog.com/archives/vanillaice

[Venkman]

God bless google image search. I did a quick search on starship troopers and found this odd thing:

http://weblog.disgu.st/picture_cache/2007/08/18/332323_1186654304448.gif?what=1

Sometimes I just love the weirdness of the internet! :)

[beaker]

I do wonder if Verhoeven read the book. From what I've heard(never saw either of the movies) of his script, he seemed to have missed some important aspects of the novels political/social/military structure.As it was mentioned earlier, a bunch of guys inside what is essentially mech warrior suits is kinda boring. Also the budget with bugs was already over 100 million. Doing full cgi suits, well it might as well have been a fully animated movie.

[Boone]

Re: Venkman.

LOL! I wish someone would do that for some giant spider movies - maybe the 50's version of The Fly?:D

[isxaari]

when did they make a second movie? can someone link me to the second movie ?

[kmest]

well the first one was Awesome in my book,i watched it again some days ago with some friends on a big screen and we were still amazed by how Verhoeven managed those action sequences back in 1997 and still we cant see much better examples in today films after 10 years....but i dont know why he allows the studioes to makes poor sequels from his movies,remember Robocop sequels??(ok just forget the Kane in RC2).....i love what he directs and i think hes one of the best scifi action directors ever...and the effects in his movis are always the bests....

ST2 was realy a poor movie i couldnt stay awake during the film,and this one,the effects looks even worst than the second one....but hey i will watch it only because of "Jolene Blalock" Aka Tpol in Enterprise

[Trojan123]

when did they make a second movie? can someone link me to the second movie ?

Trust me- you don't want it.

[Garibaldi]

Remembering in the book of course, they didn't spend much time in the armor, that was really a side note to Juan's character development within the confines of that universes military structure.

And if you aren't gonna wear the armor, then at least put your soldiers in battledress that makes some sense! Even modern combat troops are better protected than that!

As it was mentioned earlier, a bunch of guys inside what is essentially mech warrior suits is kinda boring. Also the budget with bugs was already over 100 million. Doing full cgi suits, well it might as well have been a fully animated movie.

[Venkman]

And if you aren't gonna wear the armor, then at least put your soldiers in battledress that makes some sense! Even modern combat troops are better protected than that!

They used the same outfits in Joss Whedon's Firefly. :)

[Garibaldi]

So that just means Whedon is an idiot about battledress too.

[Venkman]

So that just means Whedon is an idiot about battledress too.

I think it was budget constraints. ;)

[beaker]

when did they make a second movie? can someone link me to the second movie ?google is your friend. :)

[ragdoll]

STARSHIP TROOPERS 3: MARAUDER

Link (http://www.filmschoolrejects.com/news/starship-troopers-3-marauder-movie-trailer.php)

there's a part 2? :eek:

i like part 1 better... if part two is the same as 3... :shrug:

[VictorSantos]

It said 'Stage 6' at the end. Didn't they just go out of business?

Looks terrible. Casper Van Diem must be hard up for work. He looked like he was half-assed into it. 'Are we done yet?'

I agree with that, What's gonna happen without Stage6 ?

And.... how old is Casper? :D

I love Starship Troopers and I will see it if Stage6 let us do it.

Good night and good luck :scream:

[Glenfx]

OMG O_O that is just bad (didnt even know there was a second movie either) but ive seen better low budget movies in scifi

Cant understand why people support movies this bad.

[SovereignKnight]

I think Casper is about 40 now, but I hear his rank in this movie is Colonel, so that makes sense at least.

They should have brought Denise back too.

[VictorSantos]

what?? I want Denise back! starship troopers needs her! and... anyone knows what's happen about Sony stage6 movies?

hahahaha

[whalerider]

looks like a comedy.
there is a chance it will be better than ST II, which was pretty bad.
but i wonder if they will dare to show it in cinemas.

[cookepuss]

I'm ashamed to admit it, but I'd probably watch it.... and like it. :p

Will this live up to the visual excellence and strong social commentary of the 1st movie? HELL NO! :) Still... Why not?

There's something to be said for being able to enjoy a really cheesy B or C movie. Actually, there's a market for it. Sometimes, a movie that's so far from mainstream can even be more enjoyable because at least you can tell the crew is having fun instead of worrying about investors or profit margins. Sometimes, a movie is just so bad that somehow circles around back to good. Sometimes, you just enjoy a movie for all of the wrong reasons - like when it's supposed to be a serious drama, but plays out more like a comedy. :)

Again, I don't expect this movie to be the mainstream definition of good, but I might happily file it along with:

- Killer Klowns from Outer Space
- Critters
- American Werewolf in Paris
- Jason X
- My Best Friend is a Vampire

Color me stupid, but I enjoy sh** movies. :)


Can you honestly say that you don't have any guilty pleasures?

(Hey, pal! Yeah, you over there. I see you rockin' out to Britney Spears. ;))




BTW: ST3 Writer/Director Edward Neumeier's track record is a pretty interesting one. On the one hand, this guy wrote the screenplays for Robocop and Starship Troopers 1. On the other hand, this is the same guy who wrote Anacondas 2, Starship Troopers 2, and Robocop 2/3/TV. He's made a career or pumping out questionable sequels. 14 IMDB writing credits to his name and only 2 are truly great. Says a lot.

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