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whalerider
02-25-2008, 10:04 AM
planning to build a new box for simulations (particles, dynamics, fluids, cloth) as well as rendering.
cpu will be Q6600, which i plan to overclock.
memory is cheap, so i will go with 8 GB
os will probably be winxp 64-bit, don't need Vista's fancy features, dual boot with Linux (maybe Ubuntu).


my questions are:
1. what memory to get - brand and frequency?
my impression is that i don't need 1066 MHz and 800 MHz is good enough. not sure what's best for oc-ing though.
as far as the brand - i've used OCZ in the past, the most popular on newegg.com right now is G.SKILL. should i go for what's popular with the general crowd or for something like Kingston or Corsair or Mushkin?

2. videocard - which model GeForce to choose?
i don't care about gaming and things like SLI. don't think i'll be doing heavy modeling either.
my impression is that i don't need 512MB videoram - correct me if i'm wrong.
need something for simming (which is not GPU-intensive afaik) and rendering mainly particles/fluids.

thanks in advance.

dontgvadamn
02-25-2008, 09:25 PM
The new intells are great processors. What mobo are you planing on going with? Some dont have very good bios for overclocking. SO make sure you look at what bios setup the board has.

As far as the memory I dunno if you plan on overclocking that as well. But the best overclocking memory has the micron9 bios.
This site has a list of what bios most memory has:
http://ramlist.ath.cx/

Personally I think video cards are just a matter of how much you want to spend on it anymore. Just about any of the newer video cards will do pretty much anything anyone could want unless they are doing heavy GPU stuff.

whalerider
02-26-2008, 12:52 AM
Thanks, andrew.

don't plan on OC-ing the memory.

My mobo choice is this one: http://www.newegg.com/product/product.aspx?item=N82E16813128059
no fancy features, but seems like one of the best deals for a Q6600.

my first choice for GPU was the 7600GT:
http://www.newegg.com/product/product.aspx?item=N82E16814130062
because it's quite inexpensive

did some more research today and the 9600GT looks interesting as well:
http://www.newegg.com/product/product.aspx?item=N82E16814130328

cherrick
02-29-2008, 08:41 AM
have you thought about going dual quad core?

noizFACTORY
02-29-2008, 11:56 PM
have you thought about going dual quad core?

do you mean the xeon quad cores? (skulltrail aside, its not yet possible to have two regular quad cores in one system, right?)

and whalerider, have you looked at the asus maximus formula board? i'm also planning to buy a new system and my requirements closely match yours. any further findings you post here would help me out a lot too!

thanks!

cherrick
03-01-2008, 12:31 AM
You can use a two socket 771 server mobo like this:

http://www.newegg.com/product/product.aspx?item=N82E16813131191

with 2 quad core xeons. I don't know anything about skulltrail but I hear it has something to do with overclocking and its expensive. You can build a dual quad core xeon rig for less than $1000

noizFACTORY
03-01-2008, 12:39 AM
You can use a two socket 771 server mobo like this:

http://www.newegg.com/product/product.aspx?item=N82E16813131191

with 2 quad core xeons. I don't know anything about skulltrail but I hear it has something to do with overclocking and its expensive. You can build a dual quad core xeon rig for less than $1000

oh great! thanks for the link. but can any quad core xeon be used in a dual socket setup or is the choice limited to only certain types or series of xeon?

edit: just as an example, i was looking at these xeons:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819117151
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819117122
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819117149

cherrick
03-01-2008, 12:44 AM
The list of compatible processors for each board is on the man. product page conveniently linked to by newegg. there's boxx ads on the top of the page for dual quad core setups too

noizFACTORY
03-01-2008, 12:48 AM
thanks chris! you've been very helpful :thumbsup:

cherrick
03-01-2008, 12:55 AM
yeah I'm thinking about doing this myself so bear in mind I haven't actually done it :D

the asus product page on that is here:

http://usa.asus.com/products.aspx?l1=9&l2=39&l3=299&l4=0&model=1746&modelmenu=2

and it states "outstanding performance with up to 2-Way 8-Core processing capability"

I was going to go with two quad core 5310s. What I'd actually like to do is get two rack mount computers with two of these each and have a total of 16 cores for about $1800 on newegg. I wouldn't mind getting more opinions on that though.

noizFACTORY
03-01-2008, 01:01 AM
yeah I'm thinking about doing this myself so bear in mind I haven't actually done it :D

the asus product page on that is here:

http://usa.asus.com/products.aspx?l1=9&l2=39&l3=299&l4=0&model=1746&modelmenu=2

and it states "outstanding performance with up to 2-Way 8-Core processing capability"

I was going to go with two quad core 5310s. What I'd actually like to do is get two rack mount computers with two of these each and have a total of 16 cores for about $1800 on newegg. I wouldn't mind getting more opinions on that though.

hey thats a neat plan! actually, my partner and i are both planning to buy a system each so might as well go your route (if it really adds up to only $1800). yeah, i'd like some ops too here.
too bad, looks like newegg only deals in the US. don't know how much of a price difference would it amount to here.

also, have a look at 5410 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819117150). it has a higher clock speed per processor (5310 has 1.6 i think)

cherrick
03-01-2008, 01:14 AM
I was going to put the two rack mount 4unit chassis and my 2 u audio amp in a 10 unit gator case:

http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/GR10L/

noizFACTORY
03-01-2008, 01:26 AM
Gator's deluxe rack cases are molded from incredibly durable high-density military grade Polyethylene
lol, bring on the battle fatigues!
btw, is it necessary to use rack mounts when using server processors and mobos?

cherrick
03-01-2008, 01:37 AM
good question. regular mobos are ATX form factor and server mobos like this one are CES form factor:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SSI_CEB

which apparently has the same mounting holes as atx but is larger so you'd have to take the measurements of the board and make sure it fits. not all server cases are rack mount though newegg has a selection of upright server cases.

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