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williamsburroughs
02-22-2008, 04:51 PM
Hey peeps, I know we've discussed Conduit in the past, but there's some good news about it. It now works on Mac & PC, and works with Photoshop and After Effects.

I picked up a copy yesterday, and man, is it addictive.

Check out the sample vids on the site and see if you might benefit from it.

Node Based workflows have always been killer in my opinion, and now that you can do it in PS and AE, I can't imagine life being better when compositing.

Anyhoo, enough hubub. Here's the link to the goods:
http://www.dvgarage.com/prod/prod.php?prod=conduit2&sub=features

Alex provides a couple Multipass specific samples on the site as well.

Hilt
02-23-2008, 07:22 AM
Uhm how is this great with C4D?
But true, nodes are the way to go.

williamsburroughs
02-23-2008, 07:19 PM
Um...for multipass rendering solutions and post effects of 3D elements in a node based environment.

Having this type of flexibility and workflow in AE and Photoshop is really powerful. I hope they post a demo of it for PS and AE so you can see what I mean.

This is of course purely my opinion.

bobzilla
02-23-2008, 10:47 PM
They even give an example using a C4D render:

http://69.36.12.13/samples/conduit2/conduit_multipass.mov

Pretty cool stuff. Thanks for the heads up, policarpo!

soccerrprp
02-24-2008, 12:22 AM
I really didn't know the power of nodes based compositing until seeing this video. Thanks! Perhaps it's time to get a compositing app with nodes??? Hmmmm...

Richard

Daitoku
02-24-2008, 12:33 AM
This is the same version that has been out for a pretty long while right?

I am assuming it works well with Motion 3, as it still says v2 on their site...?

chromecity
02-24-2008, 01:25 AM
Hey peeps, I know we've discussed Conduit in the past, but there's some good news about it. It now works on Mac & PC...
Are you sure there's also a PC version? I didn't see anything saying that on the site and I also couldn't find a way to purchase a PC version on the site. Maybe that part's coming "real soon now"? It looks a lot like Digital Fusion to me. It would be nice to have AE and PS work that way on a PC.

govinda
02-24-2008, 03:31 AM
They even give an example using a C4D render.

Makes sense, as Alex Lindsey is one of the bigger C4D evangelists out there, and he's been huge for the app (it's his application).

The thing about nodal compositing is that it's exceptionally flexible. You can save a solution and apply it to all kinds of raw renders. It's much easier than doing it in After Effects. But After Effects style layer/timeline compositing is still very useful especially for creative uses, because of the ease of adding effects to a layer and changing parameters over time. One big inflexible thing about nodal compositing is in cases when you have to change your levels control, for example, over time. In Shake this was a pain in the ass.

I love how he builds up a look using raw layers, and Alex's eye being what it is, you're getting a really exceptional practitioner's perspective.

This is like a cheaper Nuke or Fusion. A really good deal. But I'm not sure about working in Motion, as it's such a different workflow.

Hilt
02-24-2008, 04:36 AM
Um...for multipass rendering solutions and post effects of 3D elements in a node based environment.

Having this type of flexibility and workflow in AE and Photoshop is really powerful. I hope they post a demo of it for PS and AE so you can see what I mean.

This is of course purely my opinion.

Lol sorry, I thought that they had that plugin also for C4D and went like ":eek: this is the biggest C4D news since ever" :D

I do my post in Fusion and quite frankly everything else besides nodes feels so clumsy nowadays.

Creature
02-24-2008, 08:16 AM
One big inflexible thing about nodal compositing is in cases when you have to change your levels control, for example, over time. In Shake this was a pain in the ass.

I can't comment on Shake as I've never used it but in Fusion there is absolutely nothing wrong with animating values over time. You tell Fusion you want to animate a certain value, it goes into Auto-Record and records every change you make. You also got you typical timeline dopesheet/f-curves thing. Nearly every parameter in Fusion is animateable. So at least in Fusion animating stuff isn't really a problem at all.

soccerrprp
02-24-2008, 08:55 AM
With the integration of AE into C4D, isn't it still the better option if one doesn't mind the nodeless interface? Actually, with this Conduit, you have the best of both worlds- INTEGRATION and NODES, right?

Richard

AdamT
02-24-2008, 03:36 PM
It would be nice if there was more info. about the AE version. As someone mentioned, it's not clear if it works on the PC side, and there's no demo -- or even demo videos -- for AE.

williamsburroughs
02-24-2008, 06:23 PM
Here's what is included in the download of the commercial app:

The archive has four parts:

1) Conduit Live
2) The Conduit FxPlug (for Final Cut Pro and Motion)
3) Conduit for After Effects (Mac and Windows)
4) Conduit for Photoshop (Mac and Windows)

I'll try and ping them about the PC/Mac PS/AE demo.

As far as DF...yep, Digital Fusion rocks (used it for years), but i've switched over to the Mac, and well, I didn't want to learn Shake since AE was so fast...so having Conduit in AE is a major++ in my book. ;)

Zendorf
02-26-2008, 08:42 AM
It would be nice if there was more info. about the AE version. As someone mentioned, it's not clear if it works on the PC side, and there's no demo -- or even demo videos -- for AE.


I got the PC AE version when the beta came out, and personally found it next to useless in real usage terms. It functions as a plugin to a specific layer so has all the limitaions you can imagine....it can't access media from other layers, other comps or even the project pane. You have to actually load media into the plugin itself which has its own LARGE interface.

In my mind it is intersting but fatally flawed, so I am hoping that they will release a studio (ie standalone) version for the PC like they did for mac.

I did recently get the upgrade to Conduit Studio since I am forced :scream: to use a mac @ work. Hit a deadend when I was unable to even get it to import an image sequence or play back 1080 footage. Haven't given up on it yet though as it is a lot of power for the price! But then again the Blender compositor is fairly comparable and free , just minus the realtime element...if only C4D would output its layer passes in a single .EXR file :shrug: I would use it regularly. Especially since it has nice normal relighting and Re-uv mapping nodal functionality built in.

govinda
02-26-2008, 04:42 PM
...if only C4D would output its layer passes in a single .EXR file :shrug:

Quoted for 'right on brother.'

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