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nathanmckenna
02-22-2008, 03:10 PM
Hood is a Star Child, that means she's feisty and can get a bit hot under the collar but apart from that she's doing pretty well as the chosen artifact wielder.
The Star Children, though sounding like a cartoon for 6 year olds from the 80's, are actually a kick ass race. Created by the stars themselves they are the only sentient beings that can live on the suns of galaxiesí.
Hood is able, with the most awesome protective power of the sun Glove, to wield the one and only effective weapon against the machines, The Sacred Sun.
The Sacred Sun is the most powerful star in the universe and it's force can be wrought only by the most perfect of Star Children.

Isn't that cute?



http://www.nathanmckenna.co.uk/DW3/concept_sheet_01.jpg
http://www.nathanmckenna.co.uk/DW3/model_sheet_01.jpg
http://www.nathanmckenna.co.uk/DW3/winning_pose_01.jpg
http://www.nathanmckenna.co.uk/dw3/head_03.jpg

kkem
02-22-2008, 10:48 PM
Heeeeey nath, great concepts man.
I was just about to post a reply when you added the new images. I was going to say I'm realy digging the 2nd mermaid image. Her costume looks realy cool and unique. I like the extra long tail fin too. It would be cool to see how you can develope that further.
From the new characters, I like the Sprinter, Fizz and Hood. Can't decide wich is my fav.
Lets see some colour on the mermaid.

nathanmckenna
02-23-2008, 01:10 AM
Greetings comrades, late starter here, just some quick ideas straight from the void of my mind.

Here's some thumbs I did for basic shape ideas, I really want to stay away from the classic "thug" warrior class type, so no Warlords.

http://www.nathanmckenna.co.uk/dw3/thumbs01.jpghttp://www.nathanmckenna.co.uk/DW3/thumbs01.jpg


The line up is as follows:

Huntress
Class: Stalker
Haven't thought up much story or powers yet - help me?

Sprinter
Class: Stalker
This little creature is extremely agile and quicker than a fart in the wind. Sprinter needs a magical artefact, probably Gummy Bear juice - to make him faster than light or something, "HA! try and stop me now you advanced washing machines and coffee makers..."

Fizz
Class: Stalker
Fizz has a set of cool ass gems set into the palms of her hands - they look like little eyes and when she closes her hands she turns into gas, so no naked flames please, smokers, leave the building.

Hood
Class: Invoker/Clericon
Hood is wise and stuff, completing an extra hard soduko puzzle for him is like us doing the cross word in on the back of that batman comic you still have from when you were 9.
He has these little gems that do something cool - but what!!? HELP.

Moan
Class: Clericon
This guy is crazy, he looks really harmless but when he opens his mouth all he does is moan and moan his enemies to boredom, they give up and go home.
He has a staff with a magic light on the top that hypnotises his foes into submission... then he just walks off to moan about something else. ...typical!

I really like Sprinter but what do you think? who would you date?


Some run up sketches I did, just to get busy, I really don't like them though:

http://www.nathanmckenna.co.uk/DW3/Lyra01.jpg

http://www.nathanmckenna.co.uk/DW3/earthshifter01.jpg

http://www.nathanmckenna.co.uk/DW3/mermaid01.jpg

thanks,

Nathan

http://www.nathanmckenna.co.uk/dw3/lyra01.jpg
http://www.nathanmckenna.co.uk/dw3/soaker01.jpghttp://www.nathanmckenna.co.uk/dw3/mermaid01.jpghttp://www.nathanmckenna.co.uk/dw3/earthshifter01.jpg




Thanks dude, I think I'll take Sprinter, Fizz and Hood a step further and see what happens there.
As for the mermaid, yeeeeah, I dunno, we'll see, I like mermaids, ever since I fell in love with Ariel - she's well fit. So maybe thats enough to keep me going with her, but in the olden days sailors were led to their deaths by psiren mermaids...so we should all learn from that story, yeh.

[fishlove]

nikudy
02-23-2008, 11:37 AM
nice thumbs :thumbsup:

I like Hood best. Also Sprinter looks good, but that thing with the gems made me laugh too much.

I am courious what you'll add to them.

-claudiu

nathanmckenna
02-23-2008, 11:54 AM
Thanks Nikudy, yeah, hood is pretty cool but he doesn't talk much, only when it's very necessary. Thats why it's so hard to find out what those damn gems actually do.

Hey I love your entry for DWII - :scream: pretty kick ass, will you be doing something similar for DWIII?

BluntPencil
02-23-2008, 12:09 PM
Those are some whacked-out stories you got going there! I love them! :D
They could all potentially be great, but the Sprinter is probably my favorite...made me think of the faun-creature from the lovely Brackenwood-films. http://youtube.com/watch?v=pCxPEB-uu20

Other than that, the mermaid at the bottom looks rather wonderful too.

shivath
02-23-2008, 12:22 PM
Really love the first look on Sprinter and Hood. I feel Sprinter got something special going on :p Just can't figure out exactly what it is.

jramauri
02-23-2008, 01:24 PM
Hi Nathan.

Great sketches, you have here, don't you? My favorites are the first, the huntress, and the 2nd mermaid. When I look to your huntress, she looks related to earth powers, for some reason. Maybe she could be "absorved" by the earth, to make easier her aproximation of her preys. She would just emerge suddenly, when the poor creature didn't had more time to react... It would be a good power. Or another, she could use her weapon to throw some big amounts of earth and rocks over her enemies, leting them tied up over the earth.

As you can see I'm a source of wacky ideas :P Huhahaha, don't mind. Keep it up, man, I'll be watching this topic.

nathanmckenna
02-23-2008, 06:06 PM
jramauri: Thanks for the compliments and story suggestions! I'm just about to post some mood drawings from reference that maybe mix your suggestion, in a visual way at least.
I can imagine Hood using some sort of staff to force/shovel huge amounts or earth in a forward sweeping motion! - more ideas are welcome guys!! :thumbsup:

BluntPencil: Glad you like the ideas man and that animation you sent me is really cool and very similar to the movement I imagine Sprinter to have - thanks mate.

Shivath: I thinks its the ears on him, they're very big and cute, I think I need to look at hares for reference to take him further.

So I went image browsing to get ideas for Hood.
Now I think the gems should be super white bright powerful little bastards that blind/confuse enemies.
I really want Hood to be female because I like the idea of a girl kicking some robot ass and then maybe fixing her make-up because hey, killing robots is messy work guys.

I'm thinking about losing the hood because I really want to decorate the hair/head but what do you guys think?

http://www.nathanmckenna.co.uk/DW3/hood_dev01.jpg

http://www.nathanmckenna.co.uk/dw3/hood_dev01.jpg

StacyOgie
02-23-2008, 07:23 PM
The drawings/storylines in your previous posts made me laugh so hard especially moan. I really like sprinter and hood but I'm really diggin the new hood. I liked her better with a hood though because it makes her more mysterious in looks and personality. The Asian headress looks good too. Your concepts are badass and I can't wait to see some more.

Daigoji
02-23-2008, 07:33 PM
Very nice concepts indeed, I like Hood the most I would say. Just looks like someone you really don't want to mess with and will never get close to unless you had some wicked powers as well. As for taking the hood off I would say you can leave it but the hood seems pretty big enough to also add accessories you may have wanted as well. Keep up the good work on the research as well nice job overall.

nathanmckenna
02-25-2008, 02:08 PM
Thanks people! Well, it looks like you really want me to keep that hood in somehow, i'll see what I can do.

After exploring the Hood character, it looks as if I really want to come up with a hybrid of Hood and Hunter.
Heres some thumbnails of shape ideas, after this I really need to disipline myself and commit to developing a shape, exploring variations.

What your name? Where do you come from? ...and what shape would you date and why?

http://www.nathanmckenna.co.uk/DW3/thumbs04.jpg

StacyOgie
02-25-2008, 02:25 PM
Stacy/USA/The hood hybrid in the far bottom left.

She appeals to me more because she simultaneously looks approachable and badass.

nikudy
02-25-2008, 07:17 PM
errr... i'm married so no dating :deal:.

thanks man. i hope to do something nastier this year. I couldn't get a clear idea what to do but today things started to settle.

i think you shoud number your thumbs, they are so many and my english not that good. it would take me days to explain wich ones i like.

from the internet browsing post i think it's a good idea to show some skin like in the first image. you could show a bit of her breasts, the cloth beginning in the same place as the nipples.
the feathers could go on her staf, top end.
also you could combine the garment from the first image with the feathers.

darrenwhite
02-25-2008, 08:02 PM
your work is a real inspiration nathe

nathanmckenna
02-25-2008, 11:44 PM
Darren White: thanks man, thats really cool of you to say that! :)
Nikundy: :scream: Awesome, thanks for your suggestions, I really like what you've said because I'm afraid of losing some sex appeal by completely covering her in a cloak, I'll have a go at some development ideas next. Cheers!

StacyOgie: Yeah, I quite like that one too but I definitely need to show off some skin. Quite the challenge.

Thanks for feeding my back everyone, next up: following Nikundy's suggestion. :thumbsup:

SashaP
02-26-2008, 12:27 AM
I'm loving the concept, reminds me of Kai from Heavenly Sword. Awesome design so far!

OKMER
02-26-2008, 01:23 AM
Great sketches and ideas you got there man!Keep m coming!Wanna see more:D!
Happy war to you mate!

Shintobe
02-27-2008, 02:28 AM
Man, you've got some great ideas! Incredibly cool style and poses. I like the direction you're going...can't wait to see more!

btw...the dual umbrellas - sweet... :)

nathanmckenna
02-27-2008, 10:27 AM
http://www.nathanmckenna.co.uk/dw3/color1.jpghttp://www.nathanmckenna.co.uk/DW3/color1.jpg

Quick sketch with some crazy color. I really need to play about with costume ideas, I fear the creep of generic'ness. So if anyone has crazy ideas, please help me out, the crazier the better.
That is still meant to be a hood btw, right now it looks like a helmet.
and I think she needs hair showing too.

SashaP: Kai is hawt, thanks for the very well received comparison. I like your idea of the darkness seething out of your character.

OKMER: Happy war to you too buddy, such festivities!

Shintobe: Thank you mate, will you be entering DW3?

darrenwhite
02-27-2008, 02:12 PM
nice to this this one in colour

jasonjuta
02-27-2008, 02:15 PM
Sweet fruity colours mate, very tasty.

nathanmckenna
02-27-2008, 09:28 PM
Hi guys,

So I wasn't happy with the proportions and the pose, things need tweaking and i've been looking at her for too long, so please help with these 2 things before i go playing with costume ideas.

I also took some sound advice and a great idea from Kemkem (http://forums.cgsociety.org/showthread.php?p=4961558#post4961558) and made the jewel into one of those contact juggling balls, so know her foes will be even more hypnotised and stunned - not just by her boobs.

http://www.nathanmckenna.co.uk/DW3/hood_dev04.jpg
so, any tips on proportion and pose? :love:

love you.

http://www.nathanmckenna.co.uk/dw3/hood_dev04.jpg

kkem
02-27-2008, 09:47 PM
hey buddy, the new sketch looks great. the pose is realy dynamic, even though she's just standing there, and the hands look perfect. don't ever lie again about not being able to draw hands.

nathanmckenna
02-28-2008, 12:03 AM
Hey thanks Kem, I wouldn't have altered it had it not been for your keen eyes and criticism which is worth 1000 compliments, any day! :thumbsup:

cheers buddy.

nathanmckenna
03-03-2008, 09:41 PM
I've been working on ideas for the costume, developing the head and shoulders in a hope that this might drive the rest of the design process.

what say you?

http://www.nathanmckenna.co.uk/DW3/head_02.jpg

jasonjuta
03-03-2008, 11:02 PM
I dig the shape of 6 and detail of 1...

nathanmckenna
03-03-2008, 11:19 PM
thanks Jason, yeah, I think I need to draw more of these. You're right, 6 has a strong shape but I need to show the face some more I think. ...hmmms...

PowRiver
03-04-2008, 06:21 AM
One of the best pieces for me! Congratulations!!!

nikudy
03-04-2008, 12:43 PM
same as jasonjuta , 1 and 6 are the best.

seems odd that some of your sketches look so different in style. i think it is because for some of them you use photoreferences, and for me those are your strongest ones ( apart from the first hood :D ).

-claudiu

MikeHill
03-04-2008, 12:51 PM
nice concept style :)

mike

nathanmckenna
03-04-2008, 02:11 PM
PowRiver: Thanks man, I like your painting technique.

nikudy: yeah, I agree with you entirely and it's something I'm always struggling with - style consistency, as is evident in this next jpg.

MikeyH: cheers! :)


Using reference from photos I am experimenting here with facial features, trying to add a bit of tiger animalism.
Although I like the drawing I will have to force myself to stylize and characterize her more, this looks too direct because I have a allowed the photo of the girl to preside - this should be reserved for exercise only.


http://www.nathanmckenna.co.uk/DW3/head_03.jpg
http://www.nathanmckenna.co.uk/dw3/head_03.jpg

MartinNielsen
03-05-2008, 10:52 PM
WOW! That's a lot of fine concepts :thumbsup: Your workflow differs a lot compared to mine. I tend to just continue the same drawing, until I get everything right. Then I maybe make some more detailed close-ups of certain elements.

By the way: I like no.6 :)

fleety
03-06-2008, 05:57 PM
Cool stuff Nave, love your later stuff. Makes me want to crack on with a 3D model.

You should come and work with me at Nexus.

Dave

nathanmckenna
03-10-2008, 08:15 PM
man, haven't posted in aaages. I got the basic shape of the head down so now I can work on the rest of her body and if I have time some finer facial features.
I plan to do a with hood / without hood version also. I guess she wears her hood to keep hidden from the ... mAcHiNeees...

I had trouble trying to visualise how she looks from the front.

http://www.nathanmckenna.co.uk/DW3/head_04.jpg

nathanmckenna
03-10-2008, 10:17 PM
A few quick poses of Hood in outfit.

http://www.nathanmckenna.co.uk/DW3/hood_dev05.jpg

eEe
03-10-2008, 10:33 PM
Nice concept. The last image made me think of a project I made with C.P.Company. They make really cool jackets (http://www.cpcompany.com/item/YOOX/C.P.+COMPANY/tskay/A8A99C61/rr/1/cod10/411098912Z/areaid//sts/) with built in goggels. I think it would be really cool if the glasses opd your character were built into the hood, which she folds down when she uses them.

Keep up the good work

miscik
03-10-2008, 11:40 PM
those ink sketches are gorgeous! I'm very jealous. i like the poses on your latest stuff too, good distribution of weight.

you're definitely hitting the post apocalyptic mark, but it could use a twinge more fantasy. perhaps a few tweaks to the clothing and some fantasy-like embroidery or markings?

it might be nice to have a bit more asymmetry too. there was a photo you showed earlier with a woman with some big feathers in her hair. something like that might make a cool shoulder decoration.

personally, i've never been a big fan of high heels on active characters that have to fight or run around a lot. don't get me wrong, high heels are incredibly sexy, but they have their place. perhaps something more like high heel boots? that way you could still get that nice arc of the foot, but it's a bit more functional.

here's a quick paint over with some reference. i can't wait to see the final entry!

MartinNielsen
03-10-2008, 11:49 PM
The one to the left looks real great. Much mystery in it. :thumbsup:

nathanmckenna
03-11-2008, 03:11 PM
miscik: Thanks for the paintover, it's awesome to see someone actually have the balls to do that, it's a much easier way to communicate an idea or two, pictures say a thousand words.
You're right when you say "needs more fantasy", i'm thinking of using the logo as a tattoo around her navel - that could be pretty sexy. Aslo I like the idea of her left hand having a large glove, maybe to protect her skin from the intensity of the orb. and yeah, boots are better than high-heels and can sure as hell be just as sexy!

eEe: Hey, I like that idea so much i'm going to give it a shot - thanks man, and thank you for taking the time to send me a link, those jackets are ace.

MartinNielsen: cheers man, yeah, i really want to try and keep the mystery and still show a fair bit of skin, quite the challenge.

miscik
03-12-2008, 09:16 AM
yeah, paintovers can be touchy, but i felt that you could handle it. a lot of times i get a sense that a drawing could use improvement, but i can't quite put my finger on what it is until i have my pen in hand and like you said, it's much faster. i use them (along with sketches) all the time at work, but now i will definitely try and utilize them more in my on-line crits as well.

is there a way to post an image without having the little link box to the images? I'm kinda new to all this stuff. if someone could send me a message or a link i would greatly appreciate it!

also, thanks for commenting on my stuff and putting me in your top 3!! what an honor!

now stop reading this and get back to work on your next post!

nathanmckenna
03-13-2008, 12:14 AM
costume development (need some ideas, come on you creative types!!) ...and some fun with a robot.

http://www.nathanmckenna.co.uk/images/hood_dev07.jpg

nathanmckenna
03-18-2008, 09:31 PM
Some headwear devs here, I think i'm going to carry on with the top leather version, leather is always cool, even when its really hot:

http://www.nathanmckenna.co.uk/DW3/head_05.jpg

daelon
03-18-2008, 10:01 PM
very cool concepts!

the only thing i see is the face, it has an undefined sex :P the body is clear but face cofuses

nathanmckenna
03-19-2008, 12:29 AM
thanks Daelon!

Yeah, the face is quite boyish but i'm hoping the final design wont be too androgynous. :D

nathanmckenna
04-11-2008, 10:20 PM
holy crap, i've got so much to do and about 32 hours left - thats enough right?

Life just gets in the way!

Heres my submission for the concept sheet.
Please tell me if you think I might get marked down for over loading the page with too much - looks a bit cramped but I really want to show as much as I can.

http://www.nathanmckenna.co.uk/DW3/concept_sheet_01.jpg

wilzoon
04-11-2008, 10:29 PM
Very neat concept sheet! Can't wait to see the final render. Anyway, how come my timer says its 18 hours 31 mins left? O.o

nathanmckenna
04-11-2008, 10:46 PM
i'm in London so I don't have to hand in until 5:00am sunday morning - don't know if thats a curse or a blessing. :hmm:

wilzoon
04-11-2008, 10:57 PM
Yeah, I was supposed to have +-31 hours left too. But it doesnt say the same on my personal entry page @ gameartisan. I am worried.. By the way, good luck to you mate, hope you finish it in time.

darrenwhite
04-12-2008, 11:09 AM
That looks great nathe. No way is it too cluttered. i think it comunicates your ideas really well. i can't wait for the final render, good luck and DONT give up.

i'll expect to see you at your desk on monday passed out having not gone home, but it'll be worth it. she's an awesome character design and all think all the effort you put into her back story really helps bring her to life. plus the goggles rock!

Hideyoshi
04-12-2008, 11:55 AM
Sweet work! Very nice and lively sketching! And the character looks fresh so far!
Hope you can finish, hurry up, dude!

nathanmckenna
04-13-2008, 01:36 AM
awwww maaan, i knew this would happen! I took ages doing the model sheet and then rushed the final pose which means.. yeah... wait for it... it's in black and white!! ...dammmit!
ah screw it, its all about the participationism anyways, and i've had a blast! it's been really cool to get involved on ideas and stuff with friends.
Big thanks goes out to Kem, Darren and Jason for their arty critiques and back story suggestions.

Story Stuff:

Hood is a Star Child, that means she's fiesty and can get a bit hot under the collar but apart from that she's doing pretty well as the chosen artifact wielder.
The Star Children, though sounding like a cartoon for 6 year olds from the 80's, are actually a kick ass race. Created by the stars themselves they are the only sentient beings that can live on the suns of galaxies.
Hood is able, with the most awesome protective power of the sun Glove, to wield the one and only effective weapon against the machines, The Sacred Sun.
The Sacred Sun is the most powerful star in the universe and it's force can be wrought only by the most perfect of Star Children.

Isn't that cute?

Have you noticed I love using the words 'awesome' and 'power'?

http://www.nathanmckenna.co.uk/DW3/concept_sheet_01.jpg
http://www.nathanmckenna.co.uk/DW3/model_sheet_01.jpg
http://www.nathanmckenna.co.uk/DW3/winning_pose_01.jpg

I threw some red in at the last minute so they can't pull me by saying I only used black and white for my final image... clever eh? yeah, Cintiq here we come!!!

Well done guys, and thanks for the support, you lot rock.

DDS
04-13-2008, 01:42 AM
really authentic design. It's pretty hilarious you added red last minute just to commit the rules ;)

Great job on poses :D

kkem
04-13-2008, 03:11 AM
Congrats on finishing in time dude, was begining to worry :p
The lighting on your winning pose is ace.
My favourite is the naked pic, hot.
Your concept sheet is awsome, wallpaper worthy.
Good luck mate, now go get some sleep to regenerate your power.
Have you noticed I love using the words 'awesome' and 'power' too?

darrenwhite
04-13-2008, 12:36 PM
brilliant job nathe, really inspirational. i absolutely love her.:love:

BloodTaster
04-13-2008, 08:48 PM
thats really cool man! She is sexy and dangerous :buttrock:
congratulations and good luck!

jttruong85
04-13-2008, 08:54 PM
Nice design. Good luck to you.

wilzoon
04-14-2008, 03:25 AM
I really like the poses of this babe! And you did a very good job on the lighting too. Bravo!

jasonjuta
04-14-2008, 05:04 PM
Cool and original, not too over the top which always stands out for me. Like the star idea. good job man.

Ferx
04-14-2008, 08:46 PM
Hey Nathan, cool concept and good work! Congrats and good luck with your entry! Cheers mate :beer:

fleety
04-15-2008, 01:09 PM
ZOIKS!

Really good stuff Nafe.

nathanmckenna
04-15-2008, 02:08 PM
Loik Zoiks!

OKMER
04-15-2008, 03:34 PM
NIce unique style man!
Great character too.
Congratz and all the best.

.Remko

MurdokX
04-15-2008, 04:05 PM
thanks for your comments
I like the feel of your sketches and your character , very inspiring!

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