characters:male/female statues

[spacemunky]

one more pic

[SEL]

I have to be the first to say Great Job! Since you are looking for critiques, this is what I see. Since you are doing this as a posed model, they should have that feeling of relaxation to the models when they are posed, as gravity would effect everything. I see the Right arm of the female can move better, also hair on the female is always a plus, as well as the left hand of the female needs some work. I dont know what program you are using, but Great job none the less. Great job with the textures, would you be so kind as to tell us the method you used to create the shader. :thumbsup:

SEL

[Flash FROG]

Great job. I would also like to see how you made that texture too.
One more thing the right breast on the female looks different than the left.

[spacemunky]

hey thanks for the comments so far...keep them coming.....the shader is just a marble shader..nothing more...i also have ambient occlusion pass....hdr for some fill light...and three lights to finish the job....by the way if anyone wants i can show the wires......all quads....5 triangles between the two of them

[Blackhorse]

really cool, man. artistic work!

[spacemunky]

here are some wires...no one asked but i'm in a giving mood

[spacemunky]

one more

[Flash FROG]

Wow those wire frames are nice. They are so simple. I wish that I new how to model something like that.
Good Job, by the way thanks for telling us how you did the textures.:thumbsup:

[koinu]

OMG...........That is some real impressive geometry you've got there. I love the fact that you modeled these two so simply, yet so strong.... I can see the demo reel of them already....
Yes,Yes what program have you utilized to create these two???????:bounce: :thumbsup:

[spacemunky]

thanks for the kind words.....the work for these two was done in XSI....the very first class i every took in 3D was two years ago in September...and it was a modeling for video games class, so I kind of started off with a base of keeping the polycount low...even when working high poly...it makes making changes and deformations much easier.

[Akildee]

I really have no crit with you models or textures at all. I think they are really working right now. My only problem is the pedastal. It's very bright and doesn't seem to work with the material on the statue in any way. Maybe a more muted pedestal with a tone as the background color will help it alot. But that's just the fine art side of me talking! Great Job for sure!

Akil Dawkins

[yellowworm]

holy sh*t! they're beautiful!
such f**king awesome usage of
polycount too.

i'm impressed.

[spacemunky]

hey akildee..thanks for the obeservation...i think i'll change the pedistal...i'll repost some time tonight

[Finkster]

Very nice! I was just wondering though, if you used real models as reference i.e. did you get some models to pose for you while you made ref drawings or photos?
I'm working on those kind of sculptural models myself and am curious of your technique.
Cheers

Ciaran Moloney

[spacemunky]

believe it or not i had no specific reference...i used to do medical and anatomical illustration...so i used some photos here and there but 90% is from memory...thats how i did them so fast

[Book]

Awesome awesome modeling. It's great, and you hardly ever see a two-person pose like this, in the "classical sculpture" vein. Only one small crit. There's obviously a story behind the pose, with the bodies holding some sort of tension, and the upward gaze. The woman's right shoulder/upper arm is tensed quite a bit - you can feel it. I would carry this tension into the hand, maybe with it rotated upward, like she's interacting with the man more, to continue the gesture her arm is making. It really is terrific work. Man, with this and your other work posted here, you've got some great stuff.

[minimi13]

Very Beautiful Image. It's just awesome.

Can you please post a bigger rendered image of it. Please.

Do you have a homepage where i can see more of your work


thanks in advance

minimi13

[Guruabyss]

MY GOD :eek:

Your geometry is outstanding, very professional indeed. Are you working in the industry? If so what company do you work for. Keep up the outstanding models SpaceMunky

:thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: [5/5]

[Darkman1A]

Let me just say, since nobody else is saying it that these models SUCK! JUST PLAIN SUCK...you would be better served if you were to model things such as..oh i don't know, a cathedral and WW II fighter planes. I'm just kidding, your models are great! I have nothing bad to say about them at all. I must bow down before you and pay homage to the skillz. We're not worthy.

[spacemunky]

hey guys thanks for the great compliments......no i don't have a website yet..should be up this week is all goes well....and i'll try to get a larger image when i get some web hosting....in the mean time thanks for the crits..and keep writing i appreciate all the feedback that i get

[minimi13]

Cool.
Would be great if you can post the link to it in this thread or in your signature or so, that will make it easier to find, when it's online.

And for the bigger pictures...

...thanks in advance:bounce:

[spacemunky]

here is some new renders i am testing...also i adjusted the pose...please let me know if you like the black or white better

[behzad]

they are amazing, one small comment that i had was the guys hips. Just a suggestion to make them wider.

:rolleyes:

[aenema]

wow, awesome modeling! :thumbsup:

[Book]

Again, great image. I like the new version - one comment, just watch the tangent that was created by her right hand and his right thigh. You might want to rotate or move the hand just a bit so her hand is silhouetted outside his leg, and you'll lose the tangent.

I emailed you back - hope you got it!

[minimi13]

i like the new image very much ( white is better than the black background).

But as stated above, her right arm should interact a bit more with him.

Maybe instead of spreading it away from her body, you can lift her hand up to his head and she can touch his right cheek or ...
just an idea..

BIGGER RESOLUTION.PLEASE.

how long did it take to render one of these images?

minimi13

[SheepFactory]

great modelling! ,

Plugged you at the front page :thumbsup:

[kiaran]

WOW! The modeling is impressive but I couldn't believe my eyes when I saw the simplisity of your wireframe. Was this modeled with nurbs by any chance?

BTW, your anatomical accuracy is amazing. I can only hate you because I am not as good as you. ;)

[urk10]

Cool stuff!

The white background is waaaaay better in my opinion.:thumbsup:

[l_farley13_l]

yes I'll second the idea for moving her right hand so there's more play/ twisting going on.

for the bacckournd - generally draker colors will give you a more accurate sense of value in my experience, maybe a slightly lighter brown or somthing would work?

Great Job!!

Farley

[Berserker]

maybe its just me, but those models kinda look like the default xsi man and woman models... :shrug:
they both have great line flow, but yours looks more effieceint, since its not animatable...

did u use the dirtmap shader from www.xsibase.com ? if not, check it out, its really really useful.

I'm assuming you're using xsi... since you're wireframe looks xsi-ish :P

[spacemunky]

wow....i really appreciate making the front page...thank you for all the great comments...and keep them coming...I will have some new renders tomorrow I hope...to answer some questions...the rendering time is about a minute and a half per frame....no those are not the deafult XSI people...I would never use them upon threat of death....and yes I am using the dirt shader, its my favorite tool in XSI's rendering arsenal. Thanks again for the comments...i'll post some updates soon.

[facial]

It is NUBs patch model, right? Love this work.:thumbsup:
Well done,
How about post up a wire frame image to show the head area, Thanks

[spacemunky]

nope...poly by poly modeling...no nurbs

[spacemunky]

here are some face wires

[facial]

Hey, man, you are so quick to reply, Thank u.
Well, The wire frame image you post up looks like NUBs form. So why i say that.
So, You did it with Softimage? I remmember Polygon wire can shows like this form only in Softimage.

Thanks

[facial]

Originally posted by facial
Hey, man, you are so quick to reply, Thank u.
Well, The wire frame image you post up looks like NUBs form. So why i say that.
So, You did it with Softimage? I remmember Polygon (maybe subdiv model) wire can shows like this form only in Softimage.

anyway, Nice job, Keeppost up the great works.

Thanks

[spacemunky]

lightwave can do it too...but ya this is XSI ...the SubD is amazing

[facial]

Yes, you are right, :beer: I will look forward about your work.:)

[spacemunky]

oh ya one more thing...I have two more posts if anyone is interested....just thought I would throw these out there in case anyone wants to see more of my stuff while I finish my web site

http://www.cgtalk.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=60139

http://www.cgtalk.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=59764

[facial]

Hey, spacemunky, Your other works also great, I love your work.

:D
I did some NPR stuff, Please give me your comments if you have time. Thank you.

http://www.renderaid.com/stillsGalleryBrowse.aspx?uid=1060

http://facial.nease.net/lib/works.htm

[Berserker]

i agree, that dirtmap just brings anything to life! all the little details show up better with it!

xsi sub-d's (or geometry approximation) as of version 3 have a nice smooth NURBS look to them, almost makes the wireframe as nice as the render, heheh.
i like to show wireframe using constant view, with lines turned on, and a little depth fog. (hidden line mode shows any clusters, which can be annoying.)


:buttrock:

[facial]

Hey, Berserker
You are a real professional CGer, You guys are genius :bowdown:

[Berserker]

haha!
thanks
:beer:

[spacemunky]

hey Berserker....i saw your stuff...very nice...give me an e-mail sometime I would love to ask you some questions about XSI since I'm very new to the program

[Berserker]

Thanks spacemonkey, i wouldnt call myself an expert, but ive been using xsi full time for almost a year now.

i dont know if i was clear earlier... this is just a neat way to show your wireframe:
http://vfs.com/~peterhogan/wireframe.jpg

(sorry, im posting my WIP in your thread, heheh)

well, its 3:20 here, so im off to sleep :)

[spacemunky]

ok i swear this is my last post of the night..here is one larger render of the new pose after taking some of your advice

[spworks]

nice body~ :cool:
i want to see your another work. :)

[samartin]

awesome stuff but you really need to get a website so you can link ot higher res versions...

[Colin de bink]

I have to say that these models are realy nice. just one comment though becouse it is realy freakin' me out (sorry)

the left foot of the female is a little deformed i think.
and her legs also look a little weird from this angle. I dont know what it is but it looks a little odd

dont mean to be crual or anything ;)

[ja3d]

Extraordinary modeling, texturing, lighting and anathomy work, really impressive technique of anathomy modeling, I really love the pic, congratulations!

[CGmonkey]

Nice anatomy study.. Nice renders!

[ZVAN]

Well done, i see the shadown below the female breast is disturbing, maybe u can add lights to blend it off...:surprised

[JHN]

I really like it. I would like to add that his hand on her body could be more firm, closer and tighter to her body... It feels a bit floaty.

But your modelling is great! :thumbsup:

[jadedchron]

something up with her right boob

[slartibartfass]

wow! awesome mesh! :buttrock:
very cool the way you build it...its perfect!
and very nice pose too...

cheers

slartibartfass

[xynaria]

Great work and I love the simplicity and clarity of your meshes.
Crits...her left foot does indeed look a bit 'ooer missus', the area between her breasts and shoulders looks a bit off, though I think this is emphasised by the breasts themselves which look a bit on the large side perhaps overly rounded, there's little hint of any kind of sag, which most that aren't siliconed to hell have, and the knees could possibly do with more definition, though I realise that is far far easier said than done..
Requests....would like to see much bigger renders if possible and also rear or rear/side view.
Can you please also work a hell of a lot slower so I don't feel so envious!!!!!!!!!!!! :beer: :beer: :)

[Book]

Nice on the hand fix, and congrats on the first page!

[StefanB]

Damn, that's really nice. :buttrock:

[ceql]

Great Work! :D I agree with xynaria's comments ;)

[KOKE]

Wow great job!!!!, wish I could model so nice and neat.

:applause: :beer: :buttrock:

[Geco]

Great work. :)

[katon]

wow very impressive, just as everyone else has said, i love the usage of the polys,way to go man.
:applause:

my only crit is maybe on the pedastool make it broken and such as if it were way old and also take down the shinyness of it, it does nto fit with the models. but great great work.

:thumbsup:

[Anthony]

Dunno if its been said(my modem's too slow to load all the pages in this thread ;] ), but the woman's navel is way too low. Move it up one set of stomach muscles. Great work!

[fresh_balla]

wow spacemunky! that is really nice.

Do you know any good tutorials for the sub-d modeling in XSI. Im really new, just got the EXP version, and the UI and all looks great, and I really wanna learn to model like what you do. Thanks


peace

[Mangled Poly]

Im guessing this is done in LW3d.. AWESOME work man!

[MeshedP]

Wonderfull image!!! I like the black one, the first you posted. Nice material application!!!

[digital_red]

Superb stuff. :bounce:

My only crit would be the fact that the feet dont seem to have much weight on them. The toes bend up as if there is no weight applied.

Did you model them in that pose or did you use bones/rig to pose them?

[katon]

i would ahve to agree with digital red. the feet seem lie they need some weight on them. it is almost as if they are inflated by air. especialy the guys right foot. kepp it up

[katon]

just cuios is there any shader for maya does anyone knwo liek you guys are talking about that is in xsi. if so i would love to get my hands on it.

[The Magic Pen]

Excellent , very clean models !!!! :buttrock:

[Artician]

That is absolutely amazing both technically and artistically. You have such a low definition mesh, but your modeling skills and amazing textures and shader make it one of the most solid pieces I've seen all year. Good work.

[spacemunky]

wow...you guys are posting some very nice comments...here is a small update I changed the position of the feet as best i could but I'm new at rigging in XSI so my deformations are a little crappy in some areas...i'll post them in bind poses soon so people can see what it looked like when i modeled it...other than that i went back to the black background and changed a few minor things based on people's suggestions....thanks again for all the great comments. By the way if anyone is wondering I will be submiting reels for job positions in the video game and CG industry shortly....just thought i would give myself a little plug...wink wink...nudge nudge

http://invis.free.anonymizer.com/http://www.geocities.com/jsistudios/newpost.jpg

[goodlag]

wow great modeling!

wire amazing :bounce:

[spacemunky]

oh and Katon: the ambient occlusion shader does work in mental ray for maya but i cant' get it working at the moment...some scripting problem...i'll let you know if i figure it out

[MolemanSD7]

Hey man, the modeling itself looks really nice. My only beef with it is the shadows. The one coming under the woman's right breast seems a little extreme, especially when compared to the shadow cast by the guy's jaw. And its a completely different direction than Im seeing under her right hand. Your may be trying to have multiple light sources, which is fine, I just think the right breast's shadow is a little distracting. Other than that, the model looks really nice, especially given the timeframe you had. Well done.:thumbsup:

[katon]

sweet man thanks alot. i would love to know when you get it fixed so i could use it. i have been looking for a shader like this for a while.

as for the models. the guys right foot efinenlty looks better, :thumbsup:

[rayz]

wow :applause:

[Crazzy Legs]

I will write more once I get sleep. Until then, I love what I see.
One of the first things that I noticed that I didn't like (by this, I mean I saw a whole lot of things I did like) was the hands of the male figure. For someone so muscular he seems to have thin fingers. Mainly the thumb is what I noticed.

[davemcd]

Nice work spacemonkey, and as others have said nice use of geometry. Someone already mentioned about the mans left hand not looking quite right and i'd have to agree. it kind of looks a bit too floaty like he's afraid to touch her. i think the fingers should really be against the geometry there and the heal of his hand against her body.... this might push the elobow out a bit but dont be afraid to let there geomtry touch... you can even displace some of the geometry where the two bodies meet to make it look a bit more like flesh is being pushed out of the way...

Same thing could be said for the soles of the feet could interact with the floor a bit better too. Sqaush em flatter at the bottom, splay the toes and make em look like there's a lot of weight there.

I also think that the womans breasts could have a bit more gravity to them, pull them in and down a bit would be my opionion. I just dont think that without a bra they'd stay quite that shape.

Hope my crits arent too harsh, i'm just hoping i can help you do your very best work, Keep it up

DaveMcD

[Elliotjnewman]

It would be good if you put a tutorial up on how you did the textures, from setting up UVs and projections to the creation of the shaders...

Looks really cool - very good use of organised geometry...

Cheers, Ell.

[dimitrios_c]

Awesome model and texture, no complaints here. The only thing that I would suggest is that it should be in either a park or art gallery location. If it were in the park you could maybey have a pigeon sitting on it or something... :drool: :beer:

[DogBreath]

I like the way you have made the woman compared to the skinny ones we usually see.

I have to agree with davemcd about the soles of the feet, and while looking at the pic that u posted on the previous page I noticed the foot of the woman is very straight in shape compared to the mans.

the dark patch that appears on the womans foot on that shot highlights an area that I would suggest that you remove to make her foot more femine and realistic. And mirroring the shape of the mans foot in the same shot.

I hope you get what I'm trying to explain here.

great use of form, I like these alot.

[Artifex]

I have to say you've done a great job so far. There's alot of posts here, ;) I can't take the time to read them all so I hope I'm not repeating anything.

For crits I'd say that the hard shadows could become soft. Area light maybe? I know I know area lights + hdr in xsi takes alot of time to render but I'm shure the qualaty of the piece would increase. ;)

I'd say that what's bugging me from the start is the feet that feel rounded under. They feel weird and your caracters seem to somewhat levitate over the platform. You could also change the angle of her left hand so we don't see too much the interior of it cause from that angle something looks off. By the way I prefer the pose on page 4. ;)

Great job! Keep finetuning It'll be perfect.

P.S. Maybe eventually you could have a picture of a museum blurer behind them instead of the black bg...

[rrobert]

Nicey nice... would really like to see the textures.... :cool:

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