kwago's mystery "wth is it?" project wip

[Flydesign]

Okay I’m going to take a stab at this one, it’s your lower Intestine. Yup, yup, yup that’s what it is.



Flydesign

[CybrGfx]

It has some beautiful and subtle shading, and please don't take this to be discouraging, but I think you will have to put an awful lot of work into this to make it into anything. By your own admission, it started out as a doodle during class. And quite honestly, that's still what it looks like, although now it is more of a glorified doodle.
You yourself don't know what it is...That should tell you right off, that it's a doodle. A doodle is something you do to pass time with your hands and a pencil. I do them all the time when I'm on hold on the telephone.

A concept, by contrast, is something you think about. It has a form, and a function, and can be placed into a conceived background to visually communicate something to others who look at it.

This has been compared to a lower intestine...Although joking, that, too, should tell you something.

So to answer your questions, in my opinion:
1. Not really. It's a doodle, and it's only inherent value is that is occupied your time in class when you should have possibly been learning something (that IS what an education is for, to make you smarter...;) );
2. Take the time to think about creating something, rather than trying to turn nothings into somethings. If you want to make "a biomechanical creature that will have glass domes and tubes as part of it," then think about the creture, and where it exists, and how it gets around, and what it eats, and why it exists. Then, you will KNOW what you are doing with your creative efforts, and not spend a lot of time trying to turn something done with no rhyme or reason into something it is not.
3. If you want to pursue this piece as a concept, start thinking about it now, and, before you go any further developing it in Photoshop, make a new Layer, and paint an environment for it. You have enough of a drawing that you should be able to place it somewhere in the Universe. Ground, Air, Water, Space. Pick a spot and place it. Day, night, what? Have some purpose in mind for every aspect of it. Why does it have glass domes? What function do the tubes perform? Can you draw/paint this in such a way that anyone looking at is (since it is so unrealistic, no one will be knowledgeable about it) will be able to see some justification for its existance on a a canvas? If yes, keep working at this. If no, keep it for a possible concept reference, and start over on your biomechanical creature, and incorporate those parts that fit your concept, as you will think and envision it.

Life is too short to waste time trying to turn a doodle into a masterpiece. Better to utilize it making your actual dreams and imaginings come to life, than trying to breathe life into something that was never meant to be more than just killing time...

~Cyber

[Flydesign]

Well said, I have to agree with Cyber.

[Kwago]

Thanks for the lengthy post cyber. Yes I do have my work cut out for me with this thing. I am okay with that as this is my first super detailed digital painting.

Off the bat i should of said that im really not too interested in making an environment for this thing and that it is just an illustration rather than a working concept. Form and function is something I am keeping I'm mind as I work on this thing. I want it to look completely alien but make sure the viewer can understand how its parts all work together. i envision it looking very much like a Giger piece with a very minimal background. If i had to pick an environment it would definitely be underwater.

All my life whenever I draw because I have the urge, I never know what the he'll I'm drawing (see my old brainbot thread). It is good in my opinion to just run with whatever comes put until it is done, because it could turn out to be something cool either now or like you said, in the future.

If someone sees a potential environment idea for this oddity my ears are open. This thing is huge though, so keep that in mind. If it could be anything, i've seen it as an alien coral reef type of thing.

[edaddy]

i see it as being an extension from a tree or something very alien and organic, a 'growth' off of something. And i can also envision a dark scene with possibly a flower growing inside the bulb there to add some color. I know thats probably not where u wanted to take the image but i think it would be a nice curveball for the piece.

[DArcy1]

Form and function is something I am keeping I'm mind as I work on this thing.



Hi

You may be keeping it in mind but you're keeping it from us ! :scream: Seriously, though, I think you do need to have at least some overall form in mind that we could see; perhaps a simplified line drawing that shows what's the head, what's the body, what's mechine etc. Right now it's hard to critique helpfully just because it's so ambiguous.

D'Arcy

p.s. your detail work really is very nice !

[Kwago]

okay, here is one idea for how this thing could work... it's got the whole irony thing going for it... and ugly thing is the creator of a single beautiful flower

i tried responding to your post mostest as soon you posted it but my iphone was being a jerk, but you mentioned a very cool idea. the many times i've tried to figure out what the hell this was, one idea i had an idea to make a huge forest inside of the bulbs.

http://kwago.com/cgtalk/mystery-proj-wip/2-2-08/function-idea1.jpg
http://kwago.com/cgtalk/mystery-proj-wip/2-2-08/mystery-proj-2-2-08-all.jpg

[Kwago]

havent had an update in while...

edit: hmm just noticed you cant even see most of the details i added (veins, more glowing bubble things, openings, and more veins) since the pic below is only 30% actual size. ahh vell, i'll post close-ups tomorrow.

http://kwago.com/cgtalk/mystery-proj-wip/2-8-08/mystery-proj-2-8-08.jpg

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