Kitterfly's WIPS (C&C appreciated!)

[CybrGfx]

Looking good, Kitterfly!

My only suggestion is to "slice" thin sections off the sides of the head. The skull is flat on the sides, because of the connection to the jaw beneath the ear. Her nose is a little too long, the mouth should be halfway between the chin and the bottom of the nose. Other than that, you have a good, balanced, "basic" face. Don't get too attached to perfectly symmetrical features. No human has them. Many studies have been done on how the halves of anyone's face make two different people if you flip them to reflect that side.

Also, how long are you taking on this? Not only do you want to learn the general positions and proportions, you NEED to learn to just draw them quickly, without slaving over them, or fussing them to death. Nature is structured, but not that rigidly.

More than one update is fussing. Push yourself to learn, but also to develop your speed as well as your accuracy.

Slap some hair on this gal, and let's start seeing some features, like cheekbones, dimples, etc.

It is sad that Digital art is still "frowned upon," but thankfully, not forbidden. Good for you in having the drive to learn it anyway!

~Cyber

[Kitterfly]

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[CybrGfx]

I'm a firm believer that as soon as you have a good idea of your background, you should add it. It will affect your highlighting and shading choices demonstrably. The sooner you have it to help direct your choices, the better.

You are at the point of "personality." You have the basic features, now you add those bits and pieces to make it a person. Eyebrows. Thick or thin? Straight or arched? Eyelashes. Lush and long, or light and sparse? Freckles? Eye color. Makeup? Sultry or sweet?

At present, she looks a bit oriental, because of the eye shape with the mouth relaxed. When you look at eyes. look at the mouth too, because the mouth muscles have a direct effect on the eyes. That is why your eyes crinkle when you smile. Do it, and you'll feel it as the corners of your eyes pull up.

You can also keep your "basic face" at this point, to work on, trying different shapes of eyes, and lips, and nose tips. Next, you should try to draw the profile of the full face you've created. How will that nose tip look from the side?

Keep working, you're doing well!

~Cyber

[Kitterfly]

Thanks for your advice everyone!
I haven't been doing any digital art for aaaages, but i will go back to my faces etc in a short while :)
I'm now working on a quick piece for a little project on transition... This is what I have so far, just playing around really. I used a reference from a photo i took.
Any suggestions? (Yes it's supposed to look a little... odd haha)

http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f162/xstylishkidintheriotx/Untitled-2copy.jpg
http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f162/xstylishkidintheriotx/Untitled-3copy.jpg
http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f162/xstylishkidintheriotx/Untitled-4copy.jpg
http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f162/xstylishkidintheriotx/Untitled-6copy.jpg

Do you think i should maybe add some more elements to enhance the surrealism? It's supposed to be a quick painting of the transition of one object into another, so perhaps i should add something else?

x

[CybrGfx]

This piece looks great! WONDERFUL coloring, with the various tones and values.

Try to get in your mind that adding things subtracts from a composition.

You have (hopefully) a main focal point. If you add something to a composition, it should ONLY be to emphasize your focal point, or help to direct the eye around the canvas to get back to the focal point. If you are even considering adding "something else," it better be for a specific reason, elsewise you are just watering down, while cluttering up, your canvas. Keep It Simple Simple.

~Cyber

[Kitterfly]

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[mikkilette]

The back of the head is chopped off! Heads (as I'm sure you know) are round in back as well as front, but in this picture her head seems to end after the ear. Also the ear is much too skinny! Here are some examples that demonstrate what I mean:
file:///C:/DOCUME%7E1/MEARAB%7E1/LOCALS%7E1/Temp/moz-screenshot.jpghttp://i217.photobucket.com/albums/cc258/mikkilette/amazinghuman.jpg
even here when the head visibly ends at the ear, it is rounded showing that the back of the head is round and not flat.:http://i217.photobucket.com/albums/cc258/mikkilette/humanhead.jpg

Hope this helped. :)

[Kitterfly]

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[mikkilette]

The back of the head does look much better, but the ear is still too skinny and if you notice the neck curves to meet the back of the head, while ther one you have draw seems a little to stiff and straight.

[Kitterfly]

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[joeian]

http://aycu13.webshots.com/image/47132/2005807746372486586_rs.jpg

[Kitterfly]

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[Seaman-Arts]

Great range of colours you are using, the bottom lip looks a little lop sided to me, or it could be that the top lip is protruding slightly, I appriciate that its not finished yet and look forward to the end result. By the way your skull was very impressive, and the teeth are really good and well proportioned, not too sure on the eye though looks as if it needs a little high lights to it to make it more spherical.

[mikkilette]

I believe joeian was referencing your picture's expression. The comic is trying to get you to explain why is the world anyone would be staring upwards in such a way as you have drawn. I could be wrong, but I do believe that that was the point trying to be made.

I understand the idea of having the reflected light, but it seems you may have gone over board. She seems more like a cadaver that's a wee bit lost in the world. I think her expression is drifting away from your intended look because instead of looking interested, she looks like someone jabbed her in the back. This would explain her eyes rolling back into her head and her lips kind of "oofing"

I think if you take the time to get her expression back to what you first intended, then all she need is a "fresh coat of paint" :) Remember this is just my opinion so use it or don't.

[Kitterfly]

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[Seaman-Arts]

The skin tones are great but the lower half of the face seems to be slightly out of proportion to the rest of the head and the hair line looks a little to high. :)

[Kitterfly]

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[Seaman-Arts]

Hope you didnt mind but I played around with the chin, it did seem a little too big
I did have a play with the hair line and I just cant put my finger on it yet but I do think it needs changing somewhat :)
http://duckyshack.co.uk/u/0104/f91273090.jpg

[Kitterfly]

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[Seaman-Arts]

much better :)

[Kitterfly]

Thank you! :)
A quick update on the other one I was working on... I'm gonna leave it now, probably, it has served its purpose for now :)

http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f162/xstylishkidintheriotx/girlwip2ndapril08copy2.jpg

[Kitterfly]

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[Kitterfly]

Here's a self portrait speedpaint I was working on today, 5.5 hours in Photoshop... Photo used as reference.

I think its my best one so far (one that i'm happy with!), i'm pretty pleased!! :)

http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f162/xstylishkidintheriotx/speedpaint4thapril08copy22.jpg

closer:

http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f162/xstylishkidintheriotx/Untitled-1.jpg

http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f162/xstylishkidintheriotx/brookestarid.jpg

[SylvanMist]

Hi, your last one's not bad at all! There's more of a range in contrast which I think looks nicer here. Only thing I'd crit is you probably could use more darker value on the shadow side for the hair, and her eyelashes look too evenly spaced.

[Kitterfly]

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[Kitterfly]

http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f162/xstylishkidintheriotx/wipdoodle6thapril0822.jpg

Anything glaringly horrible before i finally call it done? :)

[Kitterfly]

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[Kitterfly]

New thing for art project at school- i'm allowed to do digital, woooo! :D So I have to make everything digital look really good... pressure!! :s

My reference image (Don't want it to actually look like the girl tooooo much)

http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f162/xstylishkidintheriotx/IMG_3676copy2.jpg

http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f162/xstylishkidintheriotx/jessforart17thapril084copy.jpg

http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f162/xstylishkidintheriotx/jessforart17thapril085copy.jpg

http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f162/xstylishkidintheriotx/jessforart17thapril087copy.jpg

http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f162/xstylishkidintheriotx/jessforart17thapril089copy.jpg

http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f162/xstylishkidintheriotx/jessforart17thapril0810copy.jpg colour experiment- i really like this!

http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f162/xstylishkidintheriotx/jessforart17thapril0812copy.jpg another colour test (and developed image)

and this is where i'm up to so far with the original file-

http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f162/xstylishkidintheriotx/jessforart17thapril0813.jpg

Any suggestions, comments etc so far? :) I'm getting quite into this one!

[matsman]

Hi... nice!
Background needs work and I would suggest a little more depth to the face by just a little shadow on the sides.. jus to hint the face actually has a "corner" an moves underneath the hair.

Your getting better each project keep it up!

[Kitterfly]

:D Thank you!

http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f162/xstylishkidintheriotx/jessforart17thapril08originalfil-1.jpg

[matsman]

Hi, again!

sorry I didn't notice earlier but your eyes are a little crooked (well not yours yours, obviously :P ) The left eye is rotated a little different than the right one and the inner corners should be about on the same horizontal (ear to ear) line.

And maybe turn the texture effect down some more... it's like the photoshop lensflare, it sticks out to other users and brings some bias with it. Subtlety is very important in these cases...

Still very nice!

[Kitterfly]

Hey guys!

This is something i'm working on at the moment... Working from a couple of references...

http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f162/xstylishkidintheriotx/5thjuly081copy.jpg

http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f162/xstylishkidintheriotx/5thjuly083copy.jpg

http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f162/xstylishkidintheriotx/5thjuly084copy.jpg

http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f162/xstylishkidintheriotx/5thjuly086copy.jpg

http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f162/xstylishkidintheriotx/5thjuly089copy.jpg

1. The 5th/last image is obviously further down the working line than the 4th image, but which is better colour-wise? Can't decide!

2. I know it's not finished, but is there any thing hugely wrong with it at the moment that you spotted?

Comments and suggestions would be greatly appreciated at this stage! Thank you :)

[matsman]

Hi!

Ehm question 1 is a hard one and very personal I think. But strange to think about since I really go for warmer and more saturated colours myself most of the time, however I like the cooler palette better here... don't really know why, and for that means you have to figure it out for yourself, since I have no logical standpoint to think the one or the other.

question 2 nothing hugely horribly wrong... there are a few points that can make it better though...

First the face and neck seem really apart... that is because there is a slight colour difference going on (quite apparent in the warm saturated version) and also because there is a really hard intersection between the jawline and neck... especially on her right (our left) side where the jawline struts out. (which isn't a bad thing... just makes the face look a little disconnected) So I would suggest blending a bit more there.

Then there is the shoulder that feels very basic right now and could use a little more work with a good reference picture beside it, you can even photograph yourself in the correct angle to get the perfect reference.

The hair looks a little on an angle or floating slightly above the head... not sure why, but maybe you can figure it out.

And I would suggest toning down the lips just a tiny bit.... I am not completely sure why, because it is certainly a correct colour and possible a good colour too if you ask a professional make up artist (which I am not ;) )

Those are my little fixes and subtleties I noticed in your last two images. Hope you can go on with it. Lastly I think you are really focussing on the girl here, and before too but maybe you can try to do a little with the background in your next work... get out that compositioning sketchbook and sketch a few tumbs and introduce a little tension or story into your portrets.

Very nice! keep going!

[Kitterfly]

Thanks for your suggestions!

hehe funny enough it WAS from a reference picture from one of my shoots, and there was a makeup artist involved too! :P

I may have to invent some form of shoulder/collar bone, as there isn't an obvious one in the photo...and the neck and head are slightly odd together, will try and do something about that!

Yeah definitely good plan about thumbnail compositions... may extend the canvas too.

It's an attempt at an entry for Exotique, but whether it will ever be good enough to enter is another matter entirely hehe...

Will post an update very soon :) In the most recent version, i've changed the hair a bit, will post it...

:)

[Kitterfly]

Hello!
Haven't done any digital art in a lonnng time... But here's a quickie I was messing around with last night... not sure where i'm going with it, if anywhere, it was a test with colour really...
http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f162/xstylishkidintheriotx/9thmay09wip.jpg

And here's the sort of finished ish version of that other one i was doing...
http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f162/xstylishkidintheriotx/finishedishcopy.jpg

Critique on the green one would be appreciated!
x

[matsman]

Love the green one... major improvement... not surprising after that long time :)

some things that I noticed but don't mind, really:

Her right eye seems not to follow the perspective,
skin seems not very alive, but that is kinda logical with people with greenish lighting
the work in progress text is really improving the overall picture, consider doing a butterfly or something small in that place.

And on the purple one I still stand by my original comments :P

Nice seeing you again!

[Kitterfly]

Matsman, thanks! :D
Hopefully i'll be able to work on it a bit more when this deadline's done with this weekend...

I agree with you on the right eye comment... i'm working from a photo and in it the eye is covered, so i sort of made it up.... but it will be covered with hair when i'm done :)

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[Kitterfly]

Hello!

concept sketch for a new painting... what do you think so far? Just a rough idea of colour and composition... Want to go for the look of lost glamour maybe, with the lady sitting in sort of ruins, or hints at lost grandeur.

http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f162/xstylishkidintheriotx/wip12thjuly09BrookeDibbleboxesone.jpg

Alternate composition-
http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f162/xstylishkidintheriotx/wip12thjuly09BrookeDibblediffcomp.jpg

Would love to know what you think so far!

B x

[matsman]

Hej! seems like a long time no see :) been on holiday?

Ehm I like the first composition better... though she is rather in the middle...(on both, play around a little!) I would suggest to look at parfume campaign posters (don't know if that is easily found on the web) for inspiration to this glamour and ruins thing.
My feeling is that the cat has to go to the right and the lady with chair close to the left.

Also mind the size of her head. I'd might be the hairdo but I think her head is a little large compared to her torso (neck to thin?). Legs could also be a little large but I'll give you that as beautification.

I really like the colours and look forward to them being more worked on. Also give some thought to the light that created these colours.

Looks like another nice project!
Greetings!

[Kitterfly]

Hello!
Heheh yes, I have been away for some time, I fear! But i'm back :)
I liked the first comp too, gives more of the impression of her being alone. So went with that one :)
Comp - (this isn't the most recent sketch but I haven't uploaded the latest one yet... it's pretty similar but with the chair detail drawn in I suppose)
http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f162/xstylishkidintheriotx/wip12thjuly09BrookeDibblecompsketch.jpg

And a rough, quick thing of me messing around with colour
http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f162/xstylishkidintheriotx/colourtest.jpg
I want her look a bit ethereal/somewhat haggard or drained, but perhaps she looks a bit like marilyn manson at the moment!?

I will make the neck thicker, I agree, and not sure about how the head will look in the final thing... can try and scale it down a tad i guess, although it may be the large hair hehe!
The boxes in the background will be out of focus, but what do you think if I try and put some objects in the boxes?

Thanks for your comments, very much appreciated!

Any suggestions on how to improve the lighting?

B x

[matsman]

Hej!

here's some inspiration searched for parfume commercials:

http://adland.tv/files/echodavidoffl.jpg
http://images.hollywoodgrind.com:9000/images/2007/12/charlize-theron-strips.jpg
http://www.kissandmakeup.tv/can%20can%20paris%20hilton.jpg
http://www.nitrolicious.com/blog/wp-gallery/0807/misc/beyonce_diamonds.jpg
http://www.adrants.com/images/paris_perfume.jpg
http://stylefrizz.com/img/quizas-quizas-quizas-loewe-perfume-ad.jpg

note how most light is very soft (shading should be very soft too) and the backgrounds are usually out of focus, very simple. And please you have more colour than the above so keep that. :)

And for lighting this is nice:

Butterfly or Glamour Lighting:

The term, "Butterfly Lighting," comes from a characteristic butterfly shaped shadow beneath the subject's nose. If you want to use butterfly lighting you should line your Main Light up along your subject's nose axis and then raise the light until you see the characteristic shadow. This style of lighting is also known as glamour lighting because it was used extensively by the great Hollywood portrait photographers of the '20s, '30s and '40s. Although light placement is identical for butterfly and glamour lighting, photographers such as George Hurrell gave it a special look by using a spotlight as the Main Light rather than a softer light source. If you move your Main Light a little to the left or right, you will change your lighting style into a modified butterfly pattern.


source: http://www.studiolighting.net/portrait-lighting-styles/

This explains the basics of glamour photography:
http://www.photography.com/articles/taking-photos/glamour-photography-taking-glamour-shots/
And you can google additional information (not that some people think glamour photography is explicitly nude, this is not the true meaning but know that you can expect it)

BTW I think it is the shape of the head that is throwing me off... from that last closeup... the right side seems 3/4 view and the left front... which is weird and makes the head feel very unnatural. And watch out for that splash of green... you don't want to make that more saturated.

Hope it helps. Good to see you active again.

[Kitterfly]

Real one - blocking in colours
http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f162/xstylishkidintheriotx/wip14thjuly09BrookeDibbleblockingco.jpg
I think i'm going to start by painting the figure...

Thanks for the beautiful reference pics Matsman! Very useful. I will keep posting pics to show you how the head's coming on... worried about it now hehe!

B x

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This is how it's looking so far. Decided to go for the figure first and work my way out. Skin needs blending and a bit more shadowing I think, although I don't want it too contrasty...

http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f162/xstylishkidintheriotx/wip14thJuly09BrookeDibblewip3.jpg

[matsman]

About that latest value study... the head really seems like a barbie (tm) head which sits loose on the neck. It is quite creepy.
Try make a picture of yourself in that position to see how the pose can be more natural. (believe me if you have acces to a digital camera or webcam that is far easier and quicker than finding a picture of someone in the right pose)

I think the head needs to move over to the right a bit and those black shadows can be lots lighter... the dark shadow underneath the chin especially.

It'll be good in the end!

[Kitterfly]

Thanks!
I agree, the head's really bugging me now!

http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f162/xstylishkidintheriotx/wip15thJuly09BrookeDibblewip4.jpg

Is the neck/head any better? I've moved it and changed the shadowing...

and here's a closeup so far of the head area... it's not blended or anything yet...
http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f162/xstylishkidintheriotx/wip15thJuly09BrookeDibblewip4closeu.jpg

?

B x

[matsman]

:) its better but not quite there yet...

If you turn your head almost 90 degrees to the side like your model is doing, you can feel with your hands that your neck is almost in line with the side of your head. Look in the mirror, always handy for this kind of issues.

Anyways... I attached a quick paintover.(which still doesn't teach you to look into the mirror or take a picture yourself ;) ) fixing the head... it was a very slight turn, move down, right and thickening of the neck a little.
Also the unshaded hair strand just below the jaw wasn't helping either. Should be good now.

Although I still think the head is too large (or the eyes are too large and the head is accomodating, making the top too big and the chin too small???) could you post without the hair, just to be sure? Or is the hair on the same layer? I don't have time to paint it out myself today so I can't make sure that way.

Anyway loved the tones when overpainting so that is something good :)

[Kitterfly]

I took a photo of me in that position and i think the chest area looks better now :)
I've moved the head again and begun playing about with the proportions... stillllll doesn't look right haha now she just looks like a man! Will keep working on it!
http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f162/xstylishkidintheriotx/wip15thJuly09BrookeDibblewip5.jpg
http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f162/xstylishkidintheriotx/wip15thJuly09BrookeDibblewip5closeu.jpg http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f162/xstylishkidintheriotx/wip15thJuly09BrookeDibblewip6closeu.jpg

Seem to have made the face better in the last one, but younger!
ANy tips on how to improve the face?

x

[matsman]

Sry been away for a few days...

improving the face... right. To me the shading is quite nice already but the main shape and orientation of the different parts seem off a little bit.

But I'll let the master speak. (Burne-Hogarth-Drawing-the-Human-head) (http://www.scribd.com/doc/2883397/Burne-Hogarth-Drawing-the-Human-head-eng)
(I'm a real big fan of the Burne Hogarth drawing books. Pick one up if get the chance... it looks amazing and offers quite clear instructions on proportions and anatomy. BTW unbelieveable that this is the whole book! online :) )

for quick and dirty tips I found this (really not very special tutorial on portrait drawing (http://www.portrait-artist.org/face/structure.html)) but it shows you nicely how eyes, and mouth are connected and how everything fits on the head.

So enjoy... see if it helps.

My own tip would be to copy one half, mirror horizontally and lay it over the other half. because beauty is often symmetry, but not quite. She look straight ahead so use the symmetry to your advantage and bring back flaws from your underlying half to break it just enought to be interesting and natural.

Finally if you went ahead (which I can imagine) please do read the Burne Hogarth. ;)

Greetings!

[Kitterfly]

Thanks Matsman! Had a look, going to try to apply it to this annoying face haha...
Here it is so far... Still working on it... i think it's the mouth that's irritating me...
Going to start working on the rest of it at the same time now, refresh it a bit...
B x
http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f162/xstylishkidintheriotx/wip21stjuly09BrookeDibblerefiningfa.jpg

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And here's the full thing so far...

http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f162/xstylishkidintheriotx/wip21stjuly09BrookeDibblefullpicsof.jpg

[Kitterfly]

Yay! I'm getting to be much happier with it now... very far to go, but nevertheless...

http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f162/xstylishkidintheriotx/wip21stjuly09BrookeDibblesofar2.jpg

1. Is the cat at the bottom too big?
2. How on earth do I go about painting flat surfaces for those boxes?
3. What do you think so far?
4. I think I should add some more narrative elements, such as an old picture frame or something...?
5. The mirror frame is supposed to have a mirror at some stage, but wondering whether to do something more interesting with it...

[Mboehman]

I really like this picture so far. One thing I would really like to see is that frame in the background as a mirror. Maybe you were planning that already but if you centered the mirror more, you could have a reflection of something going on that the girl is looking at. I think it could give it a more "narrative" feel as you said.
That could be cool. Good luck!

[Kitterfly]

Hey Mboehman! Thank you very much! :) Glad ya like it...
Yeah it's supposed to be a mirror at some stage, but still deciding what to do, kind of want to do something more interesting like make it into an old portrait which is ripped or peeling off... will have to have a play with it definitely!
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[matsman]

Hej! nice update... lets take the list

1. Is the cat at the bottom too big?
- in comparison to what? in comparison to the other kitten? Yes it is bigger. For the composition? No not to big at all. For itself? Possibly a little more definition as to the body could be done, but you have cats that are just very hairy bags with bones in.

2. How on earth do I go about painting flat surfaces for those boxes?
Aha... well you pick your light source and go about shading as if drawing a box... ah wait. start by selecting a whole side and colouring it flat with box colour, keeping in mind where the light comes from (a gradient from light, medium, shadow to slightly darker is usually in place). When the sides are done blend the edges slightly to get a natural soft edge and go over it by hand for stuff like dents and tearing, rips and those small highlights on sharp angles. Finally go over again with the colours that reflect from the surrounding area ( green and brownish red) to put them in the scene.

3. What do you think so far?
I think you are doing an amazing job. I love the hair... it is so original and fits well none the less. (yes I am terrible with hair) And I am always amazed at the differences between sketch and "final" product (in this case latest update) I feel I always have the need to get to that stage as quickly as possible... but since it takes time and is hard work... I usually don't get there... (yeah short attention span... stuff needs to finish before I get my new amazing idea) - And looking at the sketch again... you are going to get those pink flowers and make up (more subtle) in right? I loved the semi louis XIV feel of those ribbons, big hair and gold flakes on that far to old and lost its colour chair.
-addendum... I think some more saturated colour would be nice here and there... the picture feels a bit dark and greyish (okay natural is good but the purple blue from the sketch is a little more daring and therefor more interesting)

4. I think I should add some more narrative elements, such as an old picture frame or something...?
Well sure. What do you want to tell? first write a back story (or write in your head by thinking about why the picture was taken or what you want to say with it) Without that I can't help you putting story in it, unless you want my story and not yours.

5. The mirror frame is supposed to have a mirror at some stage, but wondering whether to do something more interesting with it...
It certainly looks like a mirror. If you want to do interesting things with a mirror, check some pictures of old mirrors, cracks, smokey glass, mold that got through the cracks and lives underneath, parts where the silvery surface flaked from the backpane... And then we haven't even started on reflection or stuff that has been put in the frame, taped against it and can tell a story all of its own.

:) suffice to say you are doing a bang up job. And everything gets better and better. Final suggestions: a little more variation in the skincolour would be nice... but possibly that fixes itself naturally. The feet can use a little more definition. Her legs seem to be more shiny than the rest of her skin... I know that sometimes is because of the very tiny hairs everywhere except on the freshly waxed legs... but know it is there.
Play with the sigarette smoke, it doesn't behave like you have now (no biggie)

Well that's it. Long post... again. Sorry about that. I talk more than actually drawing these days. looking forward to the next updates and will keep a little more quiet. You can handle from here I know.

Greetings!

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