3rd Party Renderer

[Srek]

Please be more specific on what you want the renderer for. If you are looking for general opinions on those engines please use the forums search, this has been discussed in depth several times.
Cheers
Björn

[dann_stubbs]

As a somewhat new C4D user, less than a year, I have been given the ok to purchase a third party renderer such as vray, FR, Maxwell, ect. I do moniter this forum everyday so I know you people are very up speed on everything C4D so I am asking for advice. Thanks in advance.

i would recommend VRAY

so far seems is the most stable, works on PC and Mac with C4D and also is well a known render engine in the 3d world.

maxwell is cool and can produce some really nice images, but it is slow and the plugin for c4d is not very mature. maxwell on maya and max seem to have better plugins. it also is very focused on realism and may be more difficult to get stylized renders.

FR2 is good and is most close to VRAY in overall feature set, but has left a lot of unfulfilled promises... with constant teasers that never get met. overall i am most disappointed with cebas over this. they seem scatter brained on focus with max and maya and cinema falling behind. the big OSX announcement they made the same day that VRAY was announced for c4d was just more marketing puffery as nothing has materialized since that "announcement" (again)

also don't forget AR - you didn't say if you owned Advanced Render or not - but it is a very good tool and has a lot of abilities with just a few areas that are showing some age, but maxon has always proven to be resourceful and i think advanced render will mature and grow and not be left for dead as most other 3d apps have done with their standard render engines.

being i own all three this is my opinion, but i've seen a lot of similar views on the forum. the developers of the VRAY for C4D plugin have done an incredible job.

dann

[sunmade]

yeah, what he said ;-)

Amen!

[-/\-Scott-M-C4D-/\-]

Out of curiosity, how much does Vray cost for Cinema 4D? Ah just re-read your post again, never mind but i did find this


http://www.vrayforc4d.com/start.html

790 Euro excluding tax.. humm my estimation including tax in UK pounds is like £650

[Michael McCarthy]

As a somewhat new C4D user, less than a year, I have been given the ok to purchase a third party renderer such as vray, FR, Maxwell, ect. I do moniter this forum everyday so I know you people are very up speed on everything C4D so I am asking for advice. Thanks in advance.
Hello Woodhull,

Thought I would pop on and give you some info on finalRender to help you pick the best renderer for you.

We have been shipping finalRender Stage-2 for C4D for over 2 years now with 3 free Service Packs (SP4 should ship this month). Our SP's include both fixes and large new features :) (Just to give you an idea of our commitment to development, our users, and continual updates). Our focus is on integration, stability, and speed.

Our product page has a lot of info and you can click through the features on the left to see what we support here:
(http://www.finalrender.com/products/products.php?UD=10-7888-35-788&PID=53)finalRender C4D Product Page (http://forums.cgsociety.org/)
Please check out this quick feature video tour here that shows many of the features in action! (flash demo video)
finalRender C4D Feature Videos (http://www.cebasusa.com/c4dDemo/c4dOutput.html)

For some pics of what type of quality users are getting out of finalRender for C4D take a look at our C4D gallery here: (PS check out Gilles 2008 pic... cool :)
finalRender C4D Gallery (http://www.finalrender.com/gallery/v/cebas+Software/finalRender/cinema4d/)

We just released a cool Siggraph 2007 demo video you can look at here:
finalRender C4D Siggraph Video (http://cebasusa.com/m_o_v_e_e/C4dSigg2007/C4dSigg2007.html)

If you would like to cruise over to our forum, we have 3+ hours of high quality video training on finalRender for C4D for fRee here:
finalRender forum with 3+ hours of C4D training Videos (http://www.cebas.de/forums/smf/index.php?board=21.0)

Almost forgot.. if you are into product design don't miss Janne's Interview here too (amazing work Janne!):
Janne Hellmann finalRender C4D Making of Interview (http://www.cebas.com/news/read.php?UD=10-7888-33-788&NID=238)

We focus on getting new users up to speed ASAP. With fRee high quality training and very tightly integrated workflow.

Lots of info I know! Hope it helps

Thanks
Michael McCarthy
cebas

[lllab]

as micheal gives some FR images,
here you can look at the vray user gallery too so you can compare:-)

http://www.vrayforc4d.com/forum/viewforum.php?f=6

and of course on webpage:
http://www.vrayforc4d.com/demovid/vrayforc4d_demovid_001b.html

and many many free stuff to explore and learn vray deep:
http://www.vrayforc4d.com/forum/viewforum.php?f=31

good you have many good choice on c4d for best 3rd party render solutions:-)
cheers
stefan

[castroman]

Depending on what you use it for I would, but my best bet would be vray or final render.
maxwell and fryrender can produce awesome work, but for my workflow they are completely useless. I need fast turnaround,I often import huge scenes with 100s of materials, converting all that in maxwell(granted I have only tried the demo) is very timeconsuming not to mention it takes forever to get something to render that is grainfree.

in vray the material conversion is done by pushing a button I am told, and final render renders native cinema materials.

as dann said AR is not that bad, and can produce great results in the right hands, and probably they will update it soon.

[Delinos]

Hi
I am in the same situation, trying to choose between FR and Vray. To me Vray seems to be more specialized on architecture than FR. I mostly work with organic stuff like proteins and such and there is not many pictures of that in either gallery.
At the moment I tend to go for the FR since they seem to be more general. But then again the developers of Vray for C4D seems more enthusiastic and focused on C4D and that means a lot too.

Anders

[lllab]

it is true that vray is very popular among architects,
but of course it is in no way specialiced in this field, you can do all with it:-)

both, fr and vray are very adjustable and open to all kinds of renderings...

cheers
stefan

[AdamT]

Hi
I am in the same situation, trying to choose between FR and Vray. To me Vray seems to be more specialized on architecture than FR. I mostly work with organic stuff like proteins and such and there is not many pictures of that in either gallery.
At the moment I tend to go for the FR since they seem to be more general. But then again the developers of Vray for C4D seems more enthusiastic and focused on C4D and that means a lot too.

Anders
Personally, for that kind of work I would stick with AR. The significant advantage of VRay and fR is in GI rendering, which probably isn't that big of an issue for medical animations and the like.

[Delinos]

Personally, for that kind of work I would stick with AR. The significant advantage of VRay and fR is in GI rendering, which probably isn't that big of an issue for medical animations and the like.

That's true, it's the geek in me that want's more tools to play with :). I am perfectly fine with AR today but some of the stuff on Vray and fR websites are so cool my creditcard hurts.

Cheers
Anders

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