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jillwall
12-24-2007, 01:01 PM
Hi, We have been working on Robbie the Reindeer in Close Encounters of the Herd Kind for the BBC for the past year. The subject matter of Aliens kidnapping a bride might not seem the most christmassy of themes but its got snow and Reindeers. :) Its on BBC1 at 2:30PM on Xmas day.

We re unsure of plans for broadcast in US, sorry no info for non British.

Hope some of you might get a look when its on.

Merry xmas

Jill Wallace

Production Manager
Absolute Digital Pictures



http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a16/ladedaa/Robbie/5sd_image17.jpg
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a16/ladedaa/Robbie/vnn_image15.jpg
http://www.absolutedigitalpictures.com/robpics_low/5fq_image45.jpg
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a16/ladedaa/Robbie/thsj_image33.jpg
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a16/ladedaa/Robbie/pqg_image24.jpg

jillwall
12-24-2007, 02:47 PM
Here is a few more - click for the larger versions.

http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a16/ladedaa/Robbie/th_y8z_image13.jpg (http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a16/ladedaa/Robbie/y8z_image13.jpg)
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a16/ladedaa/Robbie/th_ujr_image04.jpg (http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a16/ladedaa/Robbie/ujr_image04.jpg)
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a16/ladedaa/Robbie/th_ufs_image20.jpg (http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a16/ladedaa/Robbie/ufs_image20.jpg)
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a16/ladedaa/Robbie/th_tfg_image10.jpg (http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a16/ladedaa/Robbie/tfg_image10.jpg)
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a16/ladedaa/Robbie/th_rth_image35.jpg (http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a16/ladedaa/Robbie/rth_image35.jpg)
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a16/ladedaa/Robbie/th_rmn6_image38.jpg (http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a16/ladedaa/Robbie/rmn6_image38.jpg)
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a16/ladedaa/Robbie/th_hs8_image46.jpg (http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a16/ladedaa/Robbie/hs8_image46.jpg)
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jillwall
12-24-2007, 02:49 PM
and a couple more clicky ones







http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a16/ladedaa/Robbie/th_gus_image16.jpg (http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a16/ladedaa/Robbie/gus_image16.jpg)
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a16/ladedaa/Robbie/th_fgv_image22.jpg (http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a16/ladedaa/Robbie/fgv_image22.jpg)
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a16/ladedaa/Robbie/th_ddrg_image34.jpg (http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a16/ladedaa/Robbie/ddrg_image34.jpg)
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a16/ladedaa/Robbie/th_9xs_image40.jpg (http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a16/ladedaa/Robbie/9xs_image40.jpg)
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a16/ladedaa/Robbie/th_74v_image44.jpg (http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a16/ladedaa/Robbie/74v_image44.jpg)

FloydBishop
12-24-2007, 10:28 PM
I relly liked the first Robbie film. I hope to see this one sometime in the future. I'm in the USA, so it might be a while before t gets over here.

This new one looks great.

eirenicon
12-25-2007, 01:17 AM
The subject matter of Aliens kidnapping a bride might not seem the most christmassy of themes
And yet Doctor Who saw fit to do a Christmas special about aliens kidnapping a bride just last year in The Runaway Bride :)

Looks great, although it's probably not something I'd get to see over here even if I did pay my cable bill.

xen_ninja
12-25-2007, 02:18 AM
If I recall correctly , CBC(Canadian public tv channel) did show robbie the reindeer last winter. Who knows maybe we will get to see this one next year.

pooby
12-25-2007, 10:39 AM
I was having a christmas drink with the director of Photography on the last stopframe Robbie.
We were both discussing this one- he told me it was CG, but we had one still to look at and I was convinced it must have been stopframe and even he wasn't sure after looking at it. I'm meant to be the CG expert - how embarrassing! You've done a sterling job on recreating the textures and lighting of the other films. It looks remarkably tactile.
I look forward to seeing the final film.
What software did you use?

cresshead
12-25-2007, 11:32 AM
could it be a mix of real sets and cg characters comp'd in?

anibalin
12-25-2007, 08:52 PM
this is totally awesome, congrats guys, hope to see it someday here.

Magnus3D
12-25-2007, 09:08 PM
This looks great from all the pics :D it's definately something i will keep my eyes open for when it comes to Sweden. The story like it's a good one. :)

/ Magnus

jillwall
12-26-2007, 12:06 PM
Hello

Thanks for the nice words.

Pooby the renders are all Lightwave. The animation all Messiah. I think we tried Lw for animation at one point as we had not used it in a while but gave up pretty quickly.

Cresshead its all cg. The lighting was key to getting the renders to look remotely passable. The animation is mostly animated on second frames as well to get away from the cg look. Displacements were used in as many areas as possible and because of how LW handled this we had to buy shed loads of memory to handle the renders.

FloydBishop; The first Robbie is remarkable in many ways. The script was amazing. The lighting was brilliant. The original Robbie is definately our favourite.

Heres a couple other images I have

http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a16/ladedaa/Robbie/14g_image41.jpg

http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a16/ladedaa/Robbie/56x_image18.jpg
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a16/ladedaa/Robbie/yub_image23.jpg

cresshead
12-26-2007, 12:22 PM
any chance of a opengl/wireframe lightwave screenshot to help pick up my jaw from the floor!

if this is lightwave then...WOW rendering has really moved up in cg

visionmaster2
12-26-2007, 12:47 PM
congratulation, amazing renders !!

pooby
12-26-2007, 07:07 PM
Pooby the renders are all Lightwave. The animation all Messiah. I think we tried Lw for animation at one point as we had not used it in a while but gave up pretty quickly.

When you say Lightwave, do you mean Fprime or Lightwaves' own renderer?
It looks like you have GI going on, and my experience is that LW GI fizzes too much. I'd love to know how you got it to work so well.
I am really quite amazed at the look you have achieved. I work with Aardman a lot and I have a lot of stopframe experience. I have never seen anything in CG that looks as convincingly stopframe.
Well done indeed.

cresshead
12-26-2007, 07:15 PM
wireframes and open gl animatics please!
and put it over on the newtek forum...i'm sure they'll be pleased to learn it was a lightwave/messiah gig.

ChrisBasken
12-26-2007, 08:55 PM
There's a clip here:

http://video.aol.com/video-detail/exclusive-robbie-the-reindeer-clip/3292323131

But since it was designed to look like stop-motion, it's hard to see it's "CGI-ness".

cresshead
12-26-2007, 08:59 PM
yup , just seen it on the bbc i player [whole story] and it looks REALLY stop motion to me!
either well done chaps on the cg or it really is stop motion 'real models'!

thematt
12-26-2007, 09:22 PM
are you kuddding me..not stop motion? that's the best exemple of Cg stop motion I've seen so far no doubt about it.
Absolutly stelling job, congrats to all of the team, model, render are top notch (haven't seen animation yet).

5 star minimum !!

cheers

ThomasMahler
12-27-2007, 03:15 PM
Whoa, frontpage stuff. I doubted for no second that these are real models, not CGI. Really great stuff!

wonderpup
12-27-2007, 08:46 PM
Ok, I'll get roasted for saying it but I found the look charmless and unappealing and the characters wooden and dull. As a CG person i am really impressed how 'real' the models and sets looked but i suspect the intended audience could care less what technique was used.

It's probably an unfair comparison, given the resources involved, but Aardmans 'Flushed away' managed to evoke a similar tactile feel without sacrificing characterisation and appeal.

I'm not sure what the point was in duplicating a more limited medium- why not take the same characters and use the advanteges of CG to produce a more engaging result?

Sorry to be so negative, I do have some idea of how much work goes into these things, but the fact is that I was a very motivated audience for this piece, with a special interest in animation, and I could not be bothered to watch it all the way through- it simply did not hold me in any way.

Then again I suppose middle aged animators wasn't the target audience you were aiming for.

ThomasMahler
12-27-2007, 08:58 PM
Ok, I'll get roasted for saying it but I found the look charmless and unappealing and the characters wooden and dull. As a CG person i am really impressed how 'real' the models and sets looked but i suspect the intended audience could care less what technique was used.

True, the audience couldn't care less, but they do care if something looks good or not. And this definitely looks good. They won't know whether this is CG or not (I wouldn't have guessed it either), but that doesn't matter. I find the look endearing.


It's probably an unfair comparison, given the resources involved, but Aardmans 'Flushed away' managed to evoke a similar tactile feel without sacrificing characterisation and appeal.

I'm not sure what the point was in duplicating a more limited medium-

See, I don't think so at all. I thought that Flushed Away looked like pretty mediocre CG stuff, whereas this is an interesting style that hasn't been done before in CG. Most stop motion flicks just have this tactile feel to it... every material, it's like you're in a miniature world and you could touch every asset... that you don't really get with CG stuff - yet. I just watched Nightmare before Christmas in digital 3d and man does it hold up!

why not take the same characters and use the advanteges of CG to produce a more engaging result?

A more engaging result for whome? Personally, I can't stand this standardized look across CG flicks that we've seen for years now. Super clean, round forms, same eyes on every model, high res textures on lowDetail geometry, etc. - I find this look much more interesting. Makes me feel right at home.

wonderpup
12-28-2007, 01:38 PM
What's interesting is that I watched the piece with a group of 'civilians' who know nothing about CG or stop motion, but the overall 'hardness' of the characters was something that did get commented on- they did not like the look at all.

Perhaps the plethora of CG movies is altering audience perceptions to the point that the crudities of stop motion are less acceptable now than they once were?

ringzero
12-29-2007, 12:19 PM
Agree this should be plugged.

manuel
12-29-2007, 02:01 PM
Are there any other transmission dates? I managed to miss this one completely.

cresshead
12-29-2007, 02:04 PM
yeah watch it whenever you want...it's on the bbc i player

www.bbc.co.uk

DaveW
12-29-2007, 03:09 PM
yeah watch it whenever you want...it's on the bbc i player
www.bbc.co.uk (http://www.bbc.co.uk)


"Sorry. This programme is only available to play in the UK."

blah.

cresshead
12-29-2007, 03:24 PM
ahh drat, you'll have to use one of those online proxy servers to get the bbc to think your in the uk...

jillwall
01-03-2008, 10:41 AM
Pooby, it was 99% Fprime. A few of the effects were stadard render otherwise its fprime.

I have access to some wire frames\ogl grabs from LW and its coresponding render in a few days. I`ll post some as soon as.

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