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Animalator 12-14-2007, 01:49 PM http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=40208
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j00st81
12-14-2007, 03:01 PM
not much new footage but still awsome, I hope they can keep it interesting with a single camera view without it making you nautious =P
bobzilla
12-14-2007, 06:38 PM
I've always been a sucker for "monster on the loose" movies, but do we really need to wreck NYC again? Are there anymore landmarks left to topple?
I can't imagine the whole movie being filmed like. You may never get a good shot of the creature(s) that way.
With the cast looking so young, it has the look of another slasher movie, which we really don't need.
BUT...I am looking forward to checking it out. I think I'm the only person on the planet whole liked (most of) Godzilla '98. Story was idiotic, but the effects were great.
And if you ARE a fan of these types of movies I suggest The Host. Very good modern version of the theme with a few twists in it.
adamredwoods
12-14-2007, 07:07 PM
This style is strikingly similar to actual 9/11 video.
Capitalizing on tragedy or just culture influenced by historic events?
JCAddy
12-14-2007, 07:53 PM
This style is strikingly similar to actual 9/11 video.
Capitalizing on tragedy or just culture influenced by historic events?
Give me a break.
MrHooper
12-14-2007, 09:13 PM
Give me a break.
wha? It's using imagery directly from 9/11 that you didn't often see in media before. Dazed people walking with ash covering them. A tower collapsing downward, pyroclastic-like smoke filling city streets, purposeful handheld footage. Sure destruction of urban areas is nothing new to cinema, it's the specific details that they've included that makes this a direct reference to 9/11.
I can see not minding the reference. People that weren't there may never have the trauma to make them take offense. That's fine. But to deny the reference is just silly. Of course it's a reference to 9/11.
That said, it hurts to see this, personally. But I also don't feel it's any of my business to deride it either. I have the option not to watch, so no real harm done. One thing the film will do very effectively, is capitalize on the deeply seeded fear that 9/11 has brought to New Yorkers. I think NY audiences will react more to the tension in this film, than most. If you don't think that fear is there, or very powerful, you'd be mistaken. If you ever see explosive accidents in NY (like the recent steam pipe explosion), you also see instant intensified panic, far out of whack with the actual event.
Animalator
12-14-2007, 11:00 PM
wha? It's using imagery directly from 9/11 that you didn't often see in media before. Dazed people walking with ash covering them. A tower collapsing downward, pyroclastic-like smoke filling city streets, purposeful handheld footage. Sure destruction of urban areas is nothing new to cinema, it's the specific details that they've included that makes this a direct reference to 9/11.
I can see not minding the reference. People that weren't there may never have the trauma to make them take offense. That's fine. But to deny the reference is just silly. Of course it's a reference to 9/11.
That said, it hurts to see this, personally. But I also don't feel it's any of my business to deride it either. I have the option not to watch, so no real harm done. One thing the film will do very effectively, is capitalize on the deeply seeded fear that 9/11 has brought to New Yorkers. I think NY audiences will react more to the tension in this film, than most. If you don't think that fear is there, or very powerful, you'd be mistaken. If you ever see explosive accidents in NY (like the recent steam pipe explosion), you also see instant intensified panic, far out of whack with the actual event.
I see where you are coming from and how it can be hard to watch. Usually monsters in the horror genre are created because they represent a part of mans psyche, an idea or or a big event happening within the society. Frankensteins monster for instance represents the tension in the industrial revolution and how man is becoming more mechanized and artificial. Dracula and vampires were created to show the racial overtones of what was happening in Europe at the time, for which I won't go, but you get the point. So that's what I kind of see this movie as doing, just commenting on on where we stand today as a society. I don't think it's meant to offend.
Anyway, lets try and not make this into anything more then what it is and keep the discussion about CG.
parallax
12-15-2007, 02:13 PM
wha? It's using imagery directly from 9/11 that you didn't often see in media before. Dazed people walking with ash covering them. A tower collapsing downward, pyroclastic-like smoke filling city streets, purposeful handheld footage. Sure destruction of urban areas is nothing new to cinema, it's the specific details that they've included that makes this a direct reference to 9/11.
I can see not minding the reference. People that weren't there may never have the trauma to make them take offense. That's fine. But to deny the reference is just silly. Of course it's a reference to 9/11.
That said, it hurts to see this, personally. But I also don't feel it's any of my business to deride it either. I have the option not to watch, so no real harm done. One thing the film will do very effectively, is capitalize on the deeply seeded fear that 9/11 has brought to New Yorkers. I think NY audiences will react more to the tension in this film, than most. If you don't think that fear is there, or very powerful, you'd be mistaken. If you ever see explosive accidents in NY (like the recent steam pipe explosion), you also see instant intensified panic, far out of whack with the actual event.
Are you kidding me?
You might want to write a letter to Tolkien for his blatant references in The Two Towers.
ParamountCell
12-15-2007, 02:31 PM
I think that through the ages, art has always reflected the social and political climate of the time. When you look at allot of big budget action movies, or comics after 2001 they often have the sombre 9/11 tone. I remember reading how the hiroshima bomb had such an effect on the jaanese culture that you can always see a trace of it in anime. I think , the style of this movie was bound to reflect 9/11 in some way. Although my heart does go out to anybody who is effected by the tragedy.
I have to mention War Of the Worlds movie, which has raised the bar in reallity, like Saving private Ryan did, and showed distruction without abuse, making it very human movie.
It has clearly experience of 9/11 inside of it, since it raised the "what if..." questions, but this is really too much for my personal taste too close to what really happened. It does show amazing techical ability, but ethicaly... who knows, we will see when they release the film...
I just remember after the tragedy happened how everyone was promissing that they wouldn't abuse it, but then many did.
Question is as well, how far they can go ?
There is waaaaaaaaaaaay too much violence and destruction in the movies, as well as glorification of the gun, and CG being seriously abused for horror and destruction behind it all.
I would really like to see more movies which use CG as creative tool to create new worlds, not to destroy them...
TheWraith
12-16-2007, 04:21 AM
I have to mention War Of the Worlds movie, which has raised the bar in reallity, like Saving private Ryan did, and showed distruction without abuse, making it very human movie.
i have to admit that the way people behaved in war of the worlds seemed off to me. i kept thinking theres no way people would act like that, shooting people over the car like they did. and then i saw all the crazyness that happened after katrina and yeah, they acted EXACTLY like the people in wotw.
i'm glad to see movies taking on a more serious/realistc approach to tragedy. it draws me in a lot more. children of men did a great job of this as well. can't wait for cloverfield.
Kanga
12-17-2007, 06:54 PM
Blair witch? Couldnt sit through all of the curse of the zodiac. Is the whole thing that mock ammature hand held thing?
Lordiego01
12-21-2007, 08:39 PM
Sometimes you have to be the nice guy...
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