WiP - Char - n00b eating wolf!

[dandavis]

That's a cool sketch, I should post some of my concept sketches for my latest WIP-O-RAMA. Can't wait to see where this goes. -- dano

[Halogen]

Cool :O

That would look so sweet in 3d, cant wait for it. EAT THOSE NOOBS :D BHAHAHAHH, oh no, IM A NOOB...

*runs*

[kiwi]

Thats cool bud :thumbsup:


Bummer your HD had a hissy Adrian :thumbsdow



Na I think nOObs is ok,then you can do Revenge of the nOObs next and they can batter the wolf with polys :D



Stu.

[medula]

Originally posted by kiwi
Na I think nOObs is ok,then you can do Revenge of the nOObs next and they can batter the wolf with polys :D

LOL! :scream:

Agreed! :thumbsup:

[squidinc]

Originally posted by kiwi
Thats cool bud :thumbsup:


Bummer your HD had a hissy Adrian :thumbsdow



Na I think nOObs is ok,then you can do Revenge of the nOObs next and they can batter the wolf with polys :D



Stu.

feck, you lost the cowboy and donkey?!?! poor donkey :cry:

cool new WIP though :thumbsup: I agree with stu, revenge of the noobs would be cool, death by HDRI balls or, killer checkerboard.... the robonoobs :D

[flingster]

damn the donkey and cowboy died...RIP.

Noob eating....munchies.....

being a complete noob...it does sometimes feel like a wolf just ate me up and spat me out the other end...while trying to learn all this stuff!!

looking good so far..:thumbsup:

[dandavis]

Hey fling, I still feel like a noob and I've been doing this for a while. :scream:

So much to know, such a tiny, little brain has dano.

[noen]

sorry about losing everything adrian, i had the same happen to me about a month ago, i lost lost everything! ugh!!

this character might be a good candidate for a toon shader ya think? and maybe put a Wall-Mart sign in there :-)

brenda

[Kotayus]

mwuah hahaha im a frequenter...im safe from teh wolf

[That Adrian Guy]

I love the feedback I get in this forum! It's great!

-Here's how it's looking so far-

http://www.geocities.com/adranmor/Wolfie2.txt

Slowly but surely!! = )

Thanks again for the feedback, you guyz roxxorz!

(on a side note, has anyone here ever used a program called "reason"? It's an amazing music proggie, but it's really hard to learn!)

[JIII]

yeah I like it when you do the revenge you can make them throwing deformers at him so he is like all weird looking.

nice I cant wait to see more of it.

[That Adrian Guy]

ha ha ha, deformers roxxorz!!!

I'm making the inside of the mouth with a deformed plane!

http://wattupyo.tripod.com/wattupyo/coolness/Woflie3.txt

**image updated per JIII

[JIII]

are you gonna make him like relief so its only modeled from one side. or are you doing a whole model. I am only asking this cause it looks a little flat right now.

[marcom]

(on a side note, has anyone here ever used a program called "reason"? It's an amazing music proggie, but it's really hard to learn!)

reason roxxors!!! i put ph33r in t3h whole neighbourhood while making the ground sh4k3 with the sound.

ahhhm yeah... ahhm i really like the program... ;) i don't think its especially hard to learn, just look at the demo songs they ship with it (as annoying as they may be). or see their forum at propellerheads.se

and btw: a nice wolf.

cheers marcom

[medula]

Originally posted by That Adrian Guy
Slowly but surely!! = )

(on a side note, has anyone here ever used a program called "reason"? It's an amazing music proggie, but it's really hard to learn!)


Ya reason is friggin great! I still have to sit down and get some more time on it. It's only hard if you don't have a keyboard and you want your own original sounds.

The wolf is looking cool! Love the eye! I'm looking forward to the progress! :D

[medula]

Oh ya... Make sure you add some drool and foam to his mouth! Squid would back me up on that! Right Squid? :D

[That Adrian Guy]

I got nothing done this morning, all thanks to strong bad. Some of the stuff was surprisingly relevant!

Inspiration to use Reason:
http://www.homestarrunner.com/sbemail45.html

Inspiration to burninate n00bs!
http://www.homestarrunner.com/sbemail58.html

Strongbad rocks so hard.

Anyway... I'll try to post some updates tonight!

Oh yeah, Medula, Marcom:
You guys learned Reason just by fiddling with it?

hmmm... it's a bit more intrinsic than that, isn't it?

JIII: I'll be posting 3/4th views once it's more developed. They look terrible right now!

[flingster]

BWAHAHAAHAHAHAHAH
LOL

to funny...not seen that before...:applause: :applause:

[dandavis]

Lookin good so far. I think the snout is a bit wide though at this point. -- dano

[squidinc]

Originally posted by medula
Oh ya... Make sure you add some drool and foam to his mouth! Squid would back me up on that! Right Squid? :D

quite so.. and also, WHERES THE BLOOOODD :D

[marcom]

Oh yeah, Medula, Marcom:
You guys learned Reason just by fiddling with it?

hmmm... it's a bit more intrinsic than that, isn't it?


lol... it's the truth in my case anyway... and that's because i really hate to read manuals. REFUSE TO RTFM!!! but then it took like one month of wasted weekends to really understand the way reason works. and the knowledge of other musicsoftware i used helped a lot.

[kiwi]

That looks very cool :thumbsup: ....agree about the snout though :)



How about a new char added to the mix called Capt Plugin and he fires a particle emitter at the Wolf as the others try to reverse his normals..hahahaa :D



As for being a nOOb everytime I learn something new I feel like a nOOB :) It kinda goes like this for me "Getting there" "Starting to really get the hang of this soft",then just when you are least expecting its back to "nOOB status" again...ahahhaa :D


Stu.

[That Adrian Guy]

Originally posted by dandavis
Lookin good so far. I think the snout is a bit wide though at this point. -- dano

Excellent crit!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! It was bugging me and I didn't know why!


Medula, Squid: Well... coming from you two, I'll make sure that gets done!

Kiwi: I hear you about the n00b issue! I still don't know why C4D does stuff, like the spinning bones problem... and the tank plugin... everytime you move the view around the tank moves whether you like it or not.

It's one of those issues that people will explain the answer, and I'll have no clue what the solution is... c'est la vie!

I should have an update tonight

[miketche]

As for being a nOOb everytime I learn something new I feel like a nOOB It kinda goes like this for me "Getting there" "Starting to really get the hang of this soft",then just when you are least expecting its back to "nOOB status" again...a


Boy, that's the truth.:scream:

[That Adrian Guy]

LoL... we're all n00bs.. some just hide it better than others. I'm sure even stahlberg, thirdeye and squid have their akward moments every now and then!

http://www.geocities.com/adranmor/Woflie4.txt

Don't worry, he only eats people that ask how to make a car in 3D!

[kiwi]

Looking good :thumbsup:


Taper the snout just a bit more,not from the back forward though just from the front one third {the back is a good size already} :)



The material looks a bit wooden bud :)



Ps How do I make a car in 3.........aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaargh :argh:



Stu.

[That Adrian Guy]

Got any ideas for a better procedural fur?

http://www.geocities.com/adranmor/Doggy.zip

Have at it!!! he he

Remember, you have to drag the link to the address bar, so geocities doesn't flip.

(if you want to modify the mesh it to point out any other crits, that's also MORE than welcome!)

[medula]

Originally posted by That Adrian Guy
Oh yeah, Medula, Marcom:
You guys learned Reason just by fiddling with it?

hmmm... it's a bit more intrinsic than that, isn't it?[/B]

A little bit of both. I do a lot of reading, so the manuals are very helpful for getting strarted. I just wish I had more time to work with Reason. Cinema eats away at my life more and more now! Die Photshop die! :)

[dandavis]

I probably won't be able to offer much advice but I can't wait to see the mesh for this. I'll be DL'ing it tonight. -- dano

[medula]

Originally posted by That Adrian Guy
LoL... we're all n00bs.. some just hide it better than others. I'm sure even stahlberg, thirdeye and squid have their akward moments every now and then!

Looking Great so far! :thumbsup: I agree with Stu about the snout. More of a a snarl type area would add to the presence of the character. Just make sure it doesn't mess up those perfect eyes! :)

Also, a gum-line would be good to add in as well! Make some of the teeth a little crooked maybe? :D

[flingster]

as a noob its making me quake in my booties!!!
FEAR THE WOLF....:cool:

[kiwi]

Thanks got the file Adrian :thumbsup:



I have some ideas for the material so I will mail it back to you after tweaking,dont cross fingers though everyone uses hair plugins because fur etc is really tricky,but I have a cunning plan :D



Stu.

[kiwi]

Adrian did you get my message??


OT but sometimes when I come back to CG Talk and you see the "Good to see you again Kiwi" bit,well 2x now its called me a different user name,anyone else have this happen?



Stu.

[JIII]

not me cause I link directly to this forum and don't bother with the front page.

it could be a browser problem because I am almost certin that they know it is "you" though cookies, and those are stored locally on your hard disk

[That Adrian Guy]

Originally posted by kiwi
Adrian did you get my message??



Just got it right now! I can't wait to see what you have in stock for the fur!

Anyway... I patiently await your e-mail!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Originally posted by medula
Just make sure it doesn't mess up those perfect eyes! :)



Wow! Thanks! I'll also see what I can do as far as a gumline is concerned

[That Adrian Guy]

Threads are starting to sink really fast in this forum!!!

Here's the latest update
http://wattupyo.tripod.com/wattupyo/coolness/Wolfie7.txt


and the C4D file, if any of you guys want to tweak it (or just plain steal it!)

DRAG THIS LINK TO THE ADDRESS BAR (http://wattupyo.tripod.com/wattupyo/coolness/Wolfie4.zip)

:bounce: You're feedback is ALWAYS welcomed!

Kiwi, I'm still trying to incorporate your texture, but it kind of looks like a "rock" material :)

[slouchcorp]

Exclent man he's lookin cool! keep it going.

mike.

[squidinc]

how are you modelling those muscles? this is looking ace!!! :eek:
are you gonna use shave for the fur? that would be cool :thumbsup: :applause:

[medula]

Excellent progress! Sweet Sweet Sweet! :D

More more more! :)

[That Adrian Guy]

I love the support I get on this forum!!!!!!!!

Squid: I can't tell you how much I wish I had S&H... almost as much as I want R8!!!!!!!!!!

My modelling method is kind of strange, I build the edge loops by using the "add point" feature. Over and over and over.... I can't tell you how much I wish C4D would copy selected points instead of the whole mesh! That'd save so much time!

I delete twice as many poly's as I make, cause I keep finding "better" directions to run the edge loops... It pays off during rigging time though!

(I'm just a hobbyist anyway... time really doesn't matter. I dread it when people brag about how fast they are. Ugh!)

HUGE FAVOR!! Because I don't have S&H... could someone do a quick test on it to see how it would look with actual "hair?" That would be the coolest thing ever. (The C4D file is posted with the last update)

[slouchcorp]

You can copy selected points using the structure manager,

Select your points go tp S/M change mode to points And use your standed copy and past hotkeys.

Is that what you ment?

Mike.

[flingster]

TUFTIE THE NOOBIE MUNCHER!!!!!!!

http://www.flingster.com/cgtalk/tuftie.jpg

That Adrian Guy:
is this what you mean't hairy...didn't know if you wanted thicker etc...i got shave...but i don't know how to use it...oooh and only on one side because symmetry object not supported...but should do ya as a quick test.
:thumbsup:

[That Adrian Guy]

Slouchcorp: I'll try that when I get home... if it works... I'm going to build a shrine in your honor!!

Flingster: Too coool!!!!!!!!!!!

Lookin kinda like sasquatch though! Anyway you can make the hair shorter, and thicker? Like coyotes or somethin?

I couldn't be more jealous right now:drool:

[pit]

Nice character! Use the clone tool to copy points - it´s by far the fastest way to do it. Select points - right click - select clone - that´s it.

[JIII]

structure copy points isnt gonna be working too well because with add points you can just build the points directly in with out have to bridge.

sweet, and that hair is really nice.

[kiwi]

Looking good :thumbsup:


Ears bud,Wolf ears he looks un balanced,kind of Seal like.... :)



Ya I have messed around again trying to get a more hair fibre type shader,and if you use subdivide to hell and use the bump as a displ map it works kinda ok,but its just not feasible for render times,thats why I said people do fur and hair with S & H or other plugin.


Stu.

[flingster]

kiwi: thats what i was thinking last night trying to put hair on him and makings some tuffs...out of the ear...then realised he didn't have any...when i did the fur really dense...it started to look really rat like as opposed to wolfie...:bounce: , hence i tried a bit of a blend job.

can ditools be used to give a hair quality..and if so how?

[slouchcorp]

LOL well it should work iv been using it for the last umteen hours building my car.

Agree with stu ears!

Mike.

[That Adrian Guy]

XL7 doesn't have a structure manager. kinda mad now that I don't have R8 :scream: :D

Here's a lil update!
http://www.geocities.com/adranmor/Wolfie8.txt

cursed be thy textures

this link makes it ok
http://www.spawn.com/toys/product.aspx?division=toys&category=horror&series=monsters2&product=dorothy

[dandavis]

That would look wicked with some nice Shave hair. It seems like a cool plug but I havn't messed around with it much yet. Made some hairy balls. (did I just say that?) Anyway, it's lookin good. Damn the textures.

[kiwi]

Thats looking cool :thumbsup: ....pink inserts in his ears...



Try that lighting rig I sent over now Adrian :)



XL7 is what I am using as well Adrian......it "does" have a structure manager....if it is not tabbed in go > Window >structure manager and it will pop up for ya :)



Flingster I think creating hair or fur without a plugin for the job is a migraine waiting to happen IMO :D



Stu.

[kiwi]

Originally posted by dandavis
That would look wicked with some nice Shave hair. It seems like a cool plug but I havn't messed around with it much yet. Made some hairy balls. (did I just say that?) Anyway, it's lookin good. Damn the textures.



Dan now model a rear vision mirror to hang them from :D {couldnt resist}


Stu.

[flingster]

That Adrian Guy: diggin the hair..maybe a lighter shade of brown and some irregularities to it..other than that v cool result.


(dandavis: man taking this cg thing to seriously...next you'll be modelling hairy balls....Oooh sorry you did!!!) heh heh.

[That Adrian Guy]

Originally posted by kiwi
XL7 is what I am using as well Adrian......it "does" have a structure manager....if it is not tabbed in go > Window >structure manager and it will pop up for ya :)

Kiwi... Slouch... thank you guys so much :bounce:

--man... the learning process never stops with 3D, does it
- haven't checked my mail yet, Kiwi. I'll do that right now

Still working on proportions before detailing the jeans and knee area more:

http://wattupyo.tripod.com/wattupyo/Wolfie9.txt

The jeans will be shredded later ---the bump map fur is thrown out indefinitely

[AdamT]

Lookin' cool, Adrian. I think the abs are a little too flat--doesn't look natural. And the knee caps are a bit too square. Otherwise...be afraid...be very afraid!! :thumbsup:

[Emberghost]

Yes I agree knee caps are a bit to square as well as in the center of each individual muscle of his abs needs to stick out a tiny bit more with a circularness to it.....Great muscle definition on the Wolfy though hehe :thumbsup:

[That Adrian Guy]

any hacks / mods are very welcomed.

Post the render as my email box is kind of hurting right now.

DRAG THIS LINK TO THE ADDRESS BAR (http://www.geocities.com/adranmor/Wolfie4.zip)

any crits on the rigging are also welcomed. ....not like you guys aren't busy as hell anyway... but you guys have lots of insite I dont.

kThxBye

[medula]

Also, the finger nails look a little too straight. They should curl a tab.

The shoulders could transition smoother into the biceps as well.

Looking very nice! :thumbsup:

[Raul-Reznek]

Lookin good Adrian :D

i think that the forms of the body don't mnix too well try to make the musclular structure more 'fluent' right now it looks like you haven't added the finishing touches to the char.

The pants look but but i believe that u should make them tighter to the legs.

Cheers! :D

[JIII]

keep the abs if you want them I have seen abs that look almost exaclty like that.

I mean its not like they are ideal, but in terms of physical possiblity they could happen.

nice pic its looking really sweet.

[That Adrian Guy]

Originally posted by Raul-Reznek
i think that the forms of the body don't mnix too well try to make the musclular structure more 'fluent' right now it looks like you haven't added the finishing touches to the char.

The pants look but but i believe that u should make them tighter to the legs.
[/B]

Excellent call! I'll definitely make some of those changes tonight. just right now I don't want the jeans to look like spandex till I can rip them up... which is gonna be hard as heck without a hair plug!

[DrakeX]

the head looks a little too rounded from the front, from some angles he actually looks nice :) maybe make the ears a little more visible (ooh i see they're black on a black BG, nm that then) and sharpen up the lines.. like make his face a little more angular.

other than that the body is great, i'm gonna have to agree that the abs look a bit odd but the hair text makes them look better. and yeah the pants look a bit like rounded cylinders right now :)

this looks like it'll be a good model when it's finished!

[rherlitz]

(on a side note, has anyone here ever used a program called "reason"? It's an amazing music proggie, but it's really hard to learn!)

you bet it's amazing! my best friend works as a programmer at propellerhead, so I'm kind of biased though ;)

[The FreakyOne]

LITTLE PIG LITTLE PIG LET ME IN!!


hehe i love that song :p this is a great wolf he reminds me of the big bad woolf from the music video "green jelly - three litle pics"

hey i made a piggy wanamake an animation? lol

http://www.idesigns.dx-games.com/purplealien/3ds max/pig2.jpg

[That Adrian Guy]

Originally posted by DrakeX
the head looks a little too rounded from the front, from some angles he actually looks nice :) maybe make the ears a little more visible (ooh i see they're black on a black BG, nm that then) and sharpen up the lines.. like make his face a little more angular.

other than that the body is great, i'm gonna have to agree that the abs look a bit odd but the hair text makes them look better. and yeah the pants look a bit like rounded cylinders right now :)

this looks like it'll be a good model when it's finished!

Excellent crit! This actually will be kind of friendly... but it will still hate n00bs!

http://wattupyo.tripod.com/wattupyo/Wolfie10.txt

Any feedback is immensely appreciated

[flingster]

i think the ankles need some work...but dunno how...cos its kinda a cross between a dog...really thin bone and angle...and a human joint....dunno maybe a bit thinner..and elevated off ground slightly...but a toughie really...as you might affect its centre of gravity.

other than that..its coming along nicely.

[That Adrian Guy]

Thanks Flingster! Wadaya think now? I rigged him!
http://wattupyo.tripod.com/wattupyo/Wolfie11.txt

[flingster]

diggin those poses...
:buttrock:

[DrakeX]

:bounce: dis-co dis-co dis-co :bounce:

lol he looks like john travolta in that last pose :D just has to have his thumb down his pants..

i'd like to see a sort of head-on shot, you can barely see his eyes in these last two shots. eyes! that's right, he needs an eye texture. he looks great otherwise :)

[That Adrian Guy]

Thanks chief!

I really need to extend the length of the pants though... they look kind of ... well... not "hetero" if you will :)

Gotta do something about that before I start animatin!

[xerozz]

god amazin modeling!!!!!!!!11:applause: :drool:

[That Adrian Guy]

If it interests anyone... the w0lfie can walxxorz which r0xx0rz cause it doesn't suxx0rz


http://wattupyo.tripod.com/wattupyo/run.avi
(Drag the link to your address bar)

http://www.geocities.com/adranmor/walk2.avi
(Once again, drag to the address bar)

Any comments? (please? he he he he)

[DrakeX]

damn i need to get the divx codec..

[The FreakyOne]

the run is prtty cool but the way his neck snaps at teh end of teh walk cycle looks off, non organic

[DrakeX]

i like the run anim :) but i can't get the walk. i keep getting "508 unused." damn geoshitties probably maxed out after 3 people downloaded the movie..

[That Adrian Guy]

Here you go, Drake!

http://wattupyo.tripod.com/wattupyo/walk2.avi

...geocities suxxorz anyway = )

The FreakyOne : Good call on the neck snap! Can't believe I didn't see that

[marcom]

Temporarily Unavailable

The Tripod page you are trying to reach has exceeded its hourly bandwidth limit. The site will be available again in 1 hour!
Thank you!

arghhh....i keep gettin this message after comin back (1hour 5min) but i wanna see this wolfie now!!!!
and by the way...

ph33r th4 w00lF !!!

[DrakeX]

looking at the 2 movies, i can see some stuff i couldn't before.. geometrywise, it's great, except that the creases between muscles seems a bit too sharp in places, particularly between the pecs and neck, and around the biceps. the reast is great tho :)

also, in the walk anim, there's something wrong with how his feet move when he picks them up.. it's like he's keeping his feet level as he walks, when they should tip down a little when he picks up his feet. and in the run anim, his head seems like it turns with the torso too much. i like the animations tho :) they portray weight well. nto bad for no mocap! ..unless you're hiding that you have a mocap machine in your bedroom :D

[That Adrian Guy]

Marcom, it should be up and running by now!

Drake... nice crit d00d... Just noticed that the feet are my downfall right now!

Thx

[Seo2]

hey i love ur work!! congratulations...
how long have u been working on 3d??? any tips for a begginer???
well anyways...cool shit man...keep up the good work...
peace

[Seo2]

Hey ur walkcycle is not bad at all....better than some of the Disney movies...:p still u should probably stick ur hand in it a bit more....like um...someone else said...its a sort of non organic...but still it could work because ur character is not really human.... the run cycle was good i liked that.....

MORE MORE!! show some more.

well like i said before: great work man!!!:applause:

[That Adrian Guy]

Wow... thanks for the compliment!

If you have cinema 4D you can download the actual files for wolfie through the sticky in the c4d forum.

All else fails, you can download a c4d demo through www.maxon.net

Check it out!

[That Adrian Guy]

Sorry to raise the dead! But here's a progress pic:

http://wattupyo.tripod.com/wattupyo/render1.txt

I'm currently working on it's opponent now as well!
http://www.geocities.com/adranmor/baldie.txt

C&C welcomed

[Demetrius]

Looks awesome. what was it all made in?

[PAnick]

you are kidding right?

[stylezeca]

amazing

[GARA]

wasn't here from the start...
but I've read through...
looking sweet, keep it up.

When do the noobs come in?

:) ?

[Galo]

Whats up ... last thread ?

come on ..... make some noise for the guy, i wanna see baldie fight my friend :D

make him rip him appart with his teath :D

keep up the good work

[flingster]

save to noob!

and wheres my chainsaw...blood splatter...boyeeeeeeeeee

[digitalputty]

I sure hope it doesnt eat me! EEP! :)

[Capel]

the run looks pretty nice.... but he walks like he's got something shoved somewhere.... if you know what i mean. since he's a wolf, i pictured him with more of a stalking walk, bending at the knees quite a bit more with each step... almost overly exaggerated.... keep it up though, it's fun to see your progress...

[ls4187]

Radical... I love it! I can picture him chasin Scooby Doo...lol

Fantastic progress you have made... I am really enjoying this thread!

Keep it coming !

[wedge]

why do people always resurrect these months-old threads?? the artist has more than likely moved on already, this is a year old!!

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