Odoro charecter manga..

[CybrGfx]

How old?

Hard to say. The anatomy is disproportional enough that the age is hard to determine.
The upper arm is too short, as is the forearm, signifying a child or midget, leaning more towards midget, due to the large size of the fist.
The same can be said of the legs, with the foot width signifying more age than the length of the femur and tibia/fibula.

The right leg (LH side) is noticeably wider than the left, and the left shoulder is too short.

Dunno if this helps, its, just what I see (or more precisely, don't see...).

[splintercannon]

I agree with CybrGfx. The age is impossible to tell beacuse of all the reasons he stated. My question is what on earth is he wearing? It kind of looks like a bunch of he's got a bunch of pillows or something on his head. I would try some different wardrobe designs, or at least make what he's wearing a little easier to read.

[CybrGfx]

Also, if the two small flesh-colored blobs on the sides of the head are supposed to be ears, this individual is definitely a dwarf, as the head is so oversized, it cannot possibly belong to a normal human of any age group...

[SofianeAV]

How old?

Hard to say. The anatomy is disproportional enough that the age is hard to determine.
The upper arm is too short, as is the forearm, signifying a child or midget, leaning more towards midget, due to the large size of the fist.
The same can be said of the legs, with the foot width signifying more age than the length of the femur and tibia/fibula.

The right leg (LH side) is noticeably wider than the left, and the left shoulder is too short.

Dunno if this helps, its, just what I see (or more precisely, don't see...).

well reading the first artistique comment i was realy astonished by the sharp eyes that i ve faced to my work. i m so thankfull
about the anatomy they (notes) were realy so proffessional and so human but what i imfases on is that of classic manga.
now, in this topic i m waiting for the answers about the age.

[Ferril]

Judging from his arm I think he’s about in the late teens, err correct? :) (age is difficult to determine in manga)

[Advarsky]

It's not so difficult to answer thy question, couse of his arm, that looks like older then teenager's and younger than an adult man. So i think he is about.. 22-27... Approximately. :wise:
I can't critique manga a lot, 'couse i don't really know about it much. But i can say that this rags on his head looks strange and i don't like it at all... Maybe you must place a real head with hair, or some sort of cap there..?

[CybrGfx]

well reading the first artistique comment i was realy astonished by the sharp eyes that i ve faced to my work. i m so thankfull
about the anatomy they (notes) were realy so proffessional and so human but what i imfases on is that of classic manga.
now, in this topic i m waiting for the answers about the age.You have gotten more than one answer about the age, although they are at best, guesses, but the answers echo the comments about the poor anatomy you have drawn, with the misshappen arm providing the only clues to even venture a guess.

I am familiar with Manga proportions. I based my comments on that, as well as your request about age. I pointed out how you have NOT consistently rendered MANGA anatomy to give this individual an age, as much as you have drawn a dismorphic body shape, signifyiing advanced dwarfism.

To spell it out more clearly for you:
1. The age is hard to determine, because you have rendered bad anatomy (Manga or realistic).
A. The hands are too large for the length of the arms.

B. The arms are too short in proportion to the overall body.

C. While larger than normal head sizes are standard in Manga, your head is so disproportionately over-large, that this does not accurately represent a "normal" humanoid, even as a Manga character.
2. Poor body proprotions do not define a figure as Manga. The stylizations are VERY determined and standardized. If you are unfamiliar with standard Manga proportions, I would suggest you put some time into reading and studying them.
There are several very good online sites to help you. A few of the better ones are: http://www.animax-asia.com/blog/index.php?i=25 (Some EXCELLENT general proportion guidelines)

http://www.howtodrawmanga.com/tutorial.html (Some good tutorials for heads, faces, and costuming)
http://search.deviantart.com/?section=browse&qh=boost%3Apopular+age_sigma%3A24h+age_scale%3A5&q=manga+proportions+tutorial (Various Manga Proportions tutorials)
http://www.polykarbon.com/tutorials/index.htm (The granddaddy of Manga tutorials. I first learned Manga drawing from this site 7-8 years ago).

If your emphasis is on "classic manga," you need to put a lot more work into your rendering, because what you have uploaded here is NOT classic manga, nor "modern" manga. It's not even a good Chibi. It is more of a midget. with unbalanced, and disproportionate legs, an arm that has poor anatomical proportions, and a far too oversized head, even by manga standards (those ears are almost as far apart as the shoulders...NOT manga!)

The large hands and feet signify adulthood. The dark hair signifies less than "old." The lack of veining on the arms signifies "young adult." So, yes, Advarsky could be considered "accurate" with a ballpark guess of "22-27," but anything from "17-35" could be considered just as "accurate," due to the rendering quality.

"Waiting for the answers about the age won't get you any closer than "over 12, and under 40, but highly deformed."

Perhaps you can post some links to some "classic manga" that you consider similar to what you have rendered, because I have never seen such disproportionate rendering in "classic" manga before...

[SofianeAV]

You have gotten more than one answer about the age, although they are at best, guesses, but the answers echo the comments about the poor anatomy you have drawn, with the misshappen arm providing the only clues to even venture a guess.

I am familiar with Manga proportions. I based my comments on that, as well as your request about age. I pointed out how you have NOT consistently rendered MANGA anatomy to give this individual an age, as much as you have drawn a dismorphic body shape, signifyiing advanced dwarfism.



To spell it out more clearly for you: 1. The age is hard to determine, because you have rendered bad anatomy (Manga or realistic).


A. The hands are too large for the length of the arms.







B. The arms are too short in proportion to the overall body.


C. While larger than normal head sizes are standard in Manga, your head is so disproportionately over-large, that this does not accurately represent a "normal" humanoid, even as a Manga character.

2. Poor body proprotions do not define a figure as Manga. The stylizations are VERY determined and standardized. If you are unfamiliar with standard Manga proportions, I would suggest you put some time into reading and studying them.


There are several very good online sites to help you. A few of the better ones are: http://www.animax-asia.com/blog/index.php?i=25 (Some EXCELLENT general proportion guidelines)


http://www.howtodrawmanga.com/tutorial.html (Some good tutorials for heads, faces, and costuming)
http://search.deviantart.com/?section=browse&qh=boost%3Apopular+age_sigma%3A24h+age_scale%3A5&q=manga+proportions+tutorial (Various Manga Proportions tutorials)
http://www.polykarbon.com/tutorials/index.htm (The granddaddy of Manga tutorials. I first learned Manga drawing from this site 7-8 years ago).


If your emphasis is on "classic manga," you need to put a lot more work into your rendering, because what you have uploaded here is NOT classic manga, nor "modern" manga. It's not even a good Chibi. It is more of a midget. with unbalanced, and disproportionate legs, an arm that has poor anatomical proportions, and a far too oversized head, even by manga standards (those ears are almost as far apart as the shoulders...NOT manga!)


The large hands and feet signify adulthood. The dark hair signifies less than "old." The lack of veining on the arms signifies "young adult." So, yes, Advarsky could be considered "accurate" with a ballpark guess of "22-27," but anything from "17-35" could be considered just as "accurate," due to the rendering quality.

"Waiting for the answers about the age won't get you any closer than "over 12, and under 40, but highly deformed."

Perhaps you can post some links to some "classic manga" that you consider similar to what you have rendered, because I have never seen such disproportionate rendering in "classic" manga before...


from the looks of things i can say that i made noise by my disproportionate rendering and your comments made me ashaimed.
i m verry thankfull for all the links i am going to click on them.
i think from my part that the critics should not be on the anantomy like this and if so why don't we blame "GOSHO AYOMA" about the body of "CONAN"?
after all i want to thank you very much ,you and the others for your comments and in order not keep you wondering , the age i ve thought to my "ODORO" is the 10 year ( boy of disert) weak but sharp, young but old in the mentality, ( it is not dwarf)...... this is my "odoro"
my appologeas if disturb.
thank you for all .

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