damit need critque

[Kirt]

Don't curse in your thread title and spend some more time on your images if you want valuable critiques. The cheap swirl filter doesn't help either.

[CybrGfx]

It's kinda messy looking, with oddly shaped eyes.
What is it supposed to be? Without a background, or a body, it's hard to give you any critique, because the viewer has no clue as to what you were thinking when you made it, since it does not tell any type of story...

The facial features are not very balanced or correctly proportioned, and as kirk wrote, the blur filter doesn't help this at all. You need to put more thought into what you are creating, and not just slap something down, and then upload it demanding a crit.

Also, don't try to threaten people to give you crits with statements like "I'm not gonna post again until..." You may just end up never posting again, y'know?

Post something showing enough thought and effort on your part to give you a crit about.

[lonleyness]

well ive been trying to out line egdes of faces and no I don't think the blur was a down side because the lines aren't fine in photoshop and I like to use blur. I want to become better at facial structers and getting some detail out of my characters. My previous characters have great bodies but when I try and draw faces, I think Ive destroyed what I was trying to draw. Any tips on how I can get my faces looking better.

[CybrGfx]

Facial features are actually pretty easy, once you learn the basic layout.

Heads are 5 (5!) eye widths across, eyes are the 2nd and 4th eyewidths.
Ears are from the top of the upper eyelid to the bottom of the nose
Mouths are from outer iris edge to outer iris edge
Noses are from inner eye edge to inner eye edge for nostril width, with the bridge 1/2 of the center eye width.
The distance from the bottom of the chin to the middle of the mouth is equal to the distance from the middle of the mouth to the tip of the nose.

There are plenty of very good tutorials on the Web to help you. Do a simple Web search (Don't use Google, unless you want to spend hours at it ~ try www.metasearch.com (http://www.metasearch.com)) with the keywords "Facial proportions tutorial," and practice drawing a head a day for a week.

Blurring is a lame way to try to hide bad drawing. Practice and improve your skills, and you won't have to try to hide them with blur. While you may like it, and think it is helping you, it is obvious to most others that you are trying to hide behind it.

[CGriffin]

Practice practice practice. And don't throw filters across your drawings untill you learn how to draw. Seriously, dude. Hey, CGTalk has an anatomy section! Hop over there and tackle some of the exercises!

[lonleyness]

Might as well stop drawing, nothing ive made now is real art or even a image of sorts. I don't have time to waste at home or pay for a teacher. Also im not patient enough to do such things unless im doing with someone else. Nore do I have real life friends close to home to draw with me. Unless art was a job, which is the only thing im atquete at will I be able to have any progress in this field.

[Realmdrifter]

You shouldn't worry to much, just drawing for 30 minutes a day and vastly improve your work, trust me I should know, and you don't really need a tutor, though it does come in handy at times.

If you have any magazines of people lying around I suggest you try drawing faces and poses you see within, don't try and cheat by tracing as you will only be cheating yourself.

Some exercises, to help you get proportion right and overall shape, limit yourself to one minute or 30 seconds and try to sketch the entire pose, don't give yourself more time and don't restrain yourself, just draw freely without restriction.

Then when you do more complex drawings follow the same rule, e.g. a face, limit yourself to about 10 minutes or 20 minutes, and draw, draw loosely, don't try hard on one specifice area, work in a flow, the objective of the exercise is to get the drawing recognizable...
And to get yourself comfortable working loosely and quickly, don't try to make tons of detail.

Don't stress to much if you struggle at first, because you will quickly find that your skills are improveing, don't through away your first drawings from starting this exercies, do it for one week, and you will find your skill has vastly improved from your first drawing to the one you did at the end of 1 week.

[CybrGfx]

If you want someone to draw with, there is a whole world of drawing partners available to you online. Speedpainting threads abound, there are also drawing activites, where you and others interpret specific topics in your own way. There are "tennis matches," where you exchange an image with someone, each one making changes to it. There are LOTS of ways to draw with other people.

Same thing with learning to improve your skills. WANTING to draw is half the battle. Learning to do it well is the other half. But, if you want to, you're already halfway there, so everything you learn and improve upon just gets you closer and closer.

You would never get a job with that attitude. They hire the people who view every situation as a challenge, not a destined failure. "Change your attitude, Change your Life" is a very true axiom.

Enjoy your art. Make it because of the enjoyment, and you will then be in a better frame of mind to learn how to get better at it. Then you will enjoy it even more, and the cycle just keeps on repeating...

[Advarsky]

I aggree with CybrGfx. As for me i've never studyed drawing with any tutor, never had any classes.. I've starded to paint with a tablet about 3 years ago and studyed it all by myself with web. All i had in the beginning was a desire to draw as a true masters that i saw in the net, on the MtG cards.. =) I can't say i draw real good for now, but i'm studying and learning new stuff everyday. I've began to work as an 2d artist some time ago and my skill improving fast now. That's what i can't say it was in the beginning of my career.
There's always slow proggress in the beginning, when u just started to draw, desided u'll be an artist... But don't worry, in time u'll find that you became much better in this, and learning faster now. So cheer up, don't cry around as a little boy, be a MAN and DRAW! :banghead:

[lonleyness]

some practice ive been doing, I can't transfer any art from paper to digital so I tried my best to practice some simple human drawing. Since a mouse dosen't work like a pen/pencil I had really hard time drawing. Any tips?
http://img206.imageshack.us/my.php?image=practice1sb5.jpg

[Advarsky]

The only tip i can tell ya is "BUY A TABLET!". You really gonna need it if you wanna be an artist. There's no fun to draw with mouse, but if you'll do it - try not to paint by brush, but build outlines with "pen" tool. It's handy when you must draw a bit complicated shape. Better then just mouse and the brush...

[lonleyness]

what size tablet you suggesting and are you recomending wacom brand?

[VISEone]

Well, i would suggest you should get a BAMBOO FUN by WACOM first. It's a good board for a affortable price. Whenever you get used to use this board and feel to go one step ahead you can go for a bigger one such as an INTUOS.
I started with a BAMBOO which is the smallest - but when you think about zooming in and out - you really don't need a big board for the beginning because your sketches and drawing come from your hand...

But don't expect that the board comes with skillz - you still have to sit down and practise, practise, practise and spend a lot of time with your drawings...:)

[VISEone]

this was deleted because of a double post

[lonleyness]

I find my drawings on paper are better cuz im not bothering with straight lines and correcting every mistake like using a mouse. I think ill get this http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16883100017&Tpk=wacom or if that dosent work http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16883100016 .

[lonleyness]

I wish for art skills :X

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