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Caelicorn
11-27-2007, 03:24 AM
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Title: The Poison Tree
Name: Rochelle Green
Country: New Zealand
Software: Painter, Photoshop

A little nudity-ish!!

William Blake is one of my favourite poets of all time, and this is a project I've been working on on and off since last year, as my interpretation of the poem "A Poison Tree."


" I was angry with my friend:
I told my wrath, my wrath did end.
I was angry with my foe;
I told it not, my wrath did grow...."


The devil here is not a victim, but rather the one who planted the seed, and now is enjoying the vengeance of many a foe who has fallen beneath her tree.

Painted in photoshop/painter. I referenced myself (loosely haha) for the girl/corset etc, the original tree painting I'll upload in an attachment soon, I started this image last year and you can see a lot more of the leaves/details in the old version :-) There is also another painting I have taken the skulls from (two useless backgrounds I have mish-mashed together here) I will add some closeups also.

Your C&C much appreciated, I had some useful things to keep in mind from my last post here! Thanks everyone!

Dianae
11-27-2007, 06:44 AM
This is very beautiful! Great atmosphere and nice composition, I also love the colors you've used. Her expression is great!

I think that the background could be slightly more defined, otherwise it's lovely!

4 stars

Hennaha
11-27-2007, 06:58 AM
Beautiful work, Rochelle!

I love the blurry foreground. The figure itself's has some anatomical issues, but let's not discuss those now. You have done a great job :)

The style you have tried here is little different from your previous post. That style here we have seen before while your dragon lady was way more original with all that sharpening going on with the details - and just because of that I must quite say I enjoyed your previous one little more.

Keep posting and keep improving! Again beatiful work.

Much love,

Henna

Caelicorn
11-27-2007, 07:03 AM
Just the original background paintings as mentioned - these were really done as studies over the course of last year. I never did anything with them until I decided to work on this concept. A close-up of the face also.

Caelicorn
11-27-2007, 07:07 AM
Beautiful work, Rochelle!

I love the blurry foreground. The figure itself's has some anatomical issues, but let's not discuss those now. You have done a great job :)

The style you have tried here is little different from your previous post. That style here we have seen before while your dragon lady was way more original with all that sharpening going on with the details - and just because of that I must quite say I enjoyed your previous one little more.

Keep posting and keep improving! Again beatiful work.

Much love,

Henna

Thank you Henna and Dianae!

Actually, I know exactly what you're talking about (well, I think I do). One of the critiques I got last painting was that some of the details made it pixellated looking when I shrunk the image down, so I did aim to make this one a lot softer, and deviate from what I like to do a lot (sharpen things and make them sparkle)

Perhaps with the next picture I will aim for somewhere in between

Gmax
11-27-2007, 09:39 AM
Wow! Wonderful piece :) I especially like the lighting on her back and how the soft frontal light fleshes out her shape and makes her pop out from the background. It all look very mythic and ethereal, but with that sinister edge that makes it stand out in the crowd.

Some minor crits that's more just my personal opinion: it looks like you've used some overlay or multiply layer over the image. If used properly it may give a cool effect of light through foliage and can add a lot of depth and dimension to a piece, but I don't think you've been to careful with it here. It kinda flattens the image to me, and doesn't add enough to warrant its use. Also, some spots look blurred, while others look sharp, regardless of the distance from the viewer. This adds to the depth confusion. I know playing down details can be a rewarding effect, but there doesn't seem to be any masterplan behind how you've done it here, and so I don't think it works. Especially the difference in sharpness between her face and thighs is quite confusing - a lack of detail doesn't mean you don't have to give the undetailed parts less attention. Defintion should not be confused with detail, and is always imperative (says the guy who hides all details and gives a donkey's a** about the rest ;) ).

That being said, it's an intriguing image with lots of beauty and appeal. If you've used yourself as a model, then you can't go wrong with doing it again if you want your characters to be killer beauties. I say all of these things not only because you're a great artist who deserve all the feedback you can get, but also because I was stunned by your great feedback to my last piece and I never came round to give you your well-deserved answer. Hope I'm forgiven now ;) I truly look forward to see more of your work, as it's really in a league of its own.

cgfly
11-27-2007, 12:50 PM
Wow!good job!

an
11-27-2007, 02:15 PM
Butefoul like the style in red ... hot :)

ceruleanvii
11-27-2007, 06:24 PM
Love the mood, the coloring, that burning orange glow! The figure and the background tree work very well together but the foreground skulls seem a bit off. Still, a very strong piece, great work!

RicoD
11-27-2007, 07:28 PM
Very nice painting! It has a bit of a Royo feel to it really. The monocromatic color scheme is very nice and supports the theme very well. The narrative elements are also very nice and everything makes for a nice combination. The flowing lines add to the sensuality of the entire piece. I'm actually not a big fan of that blurry spot on the ground, which is the only thing that's a bit of a shame if you ask me, but still, a very nice, moody painting!

Caelicorn
11-28-2007, 12:27 AM
Ha yeah, the blurriness is something I noticed on this current computer (my laptop) after I posted it here. I was working on an older computer which couldnt cope with the file size I wanted to use, so I segmented this piece into about 8 pieces that were all very large and worked on them separately. So I blurred that side, forgetting what I had done to the other side, because I worked in a clock-wise direction!!! I should have checked it before submitting it!

AND THEN I transferred it to my boyfriends computer (different monitor settings again) to piece it together in his photoshop cs (I have old ps, and painter on my old computer) and blah!! The moral of the story is, don't move pieces around between too many different computers :P

kayness
01-05-2008, 02:45 PM
I actually quite like the blurriness, plus the overlay of crackled ground texture on the canvas - it gives a very painterly feel
i think i have commented on the rest of the pic on dA, but I want to tell you again how much I am stunned by this piece.

Well done, Roch. You keep on impressing people with each pic!

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