Painterly digital painting, help...

[Kravenous]

Very cool concept!!! I love the girls ear nice . I can't crit the painting style its working for me. The girl hand that is not raised , I think it would be cool to have 1 cat kind of sleeping in that krook her arm is making against her body, the hand turning it to the cats head doen't seem to work as strong. Of course this is my humble opinion . Again very cool concept and painting.

cheers

[Jeffparadox]

Kravenous -

Thanks a lot mate! I wasn't sure about that transition either, I think I'll do something about it. I appreciate the feedback. Also, you've got extreme character design skills! Loved your sketchbook...

[matsman]

Hi.. just wanted to say...

FANTASTIC!

I really love the picture.. very cool idea and very nice colours. However I have a few things I don't like or would change if I made the picture (nothing that could be called a mistake)

I would lose the frog... it doesn't look at home there... the colour and shape are not inline with the rest of the piece.

I would like to see the cats a little bit more realistic... since the girl is so realistic. There are some cats that have better head shape then others but the jawning cat looks somewhat strange... like it has a twirl in his head... and the white cat near her leg looks disjointed (the head and the body seem two pieces which look a litte weird. and also it looks like the paw changes in a tail... strange...

But very cool lighting... love to see more!

[Jeffparadox]

matsman -

thanks a lot for the feedback! All points are well appreciated. I have the frog there, cause it has a meaning in the picture, I don't wanna loose it, but you are not the first one to mention the weirdness of it, i think i'll look into it. Other than that, I'm working on making the cats more realistic, thanks for pointing out all those things. Can you be more specific when u say the cat has a twirl in his head?

Thanks for the feedback! Here is the latest version of the picture...


http://www.jefftreves.com/Uykucular/uykucu-005cc.jpg

[matsman]

Hi! yes I can!

Let me first state the disclaimer that it seems to look that way... and it might not actually be.

But what I mean with "twirl" is that bottom and top seem so have a different direction. It has me baffled a little because if I look at it one way it seems alright but when I unfocus and focus again it feels very unnatural.

It could be that the line through the eyes is not perpendicular with the line suggested by the nose, or the mouth or by connecting the teeth ( I mean perspective might be a bit off,)

Or it could just be a visual thing because there are so many diffrent angles in that particular head. The top jaw is facing one way on an angle with the bottom jaw.. both are on a slight angle because they stick out of the head... then both ears are following a different direction.. and then there is that very long neck wihich translates smokelike into the vest...
So following all those axis could throw me, as the viewer, off...

I hope this makes it a bit clearer what I mean? if not ask again! :thumbsup:

[Jeffparadox]

Thanks man, and you are absolutely right!

I realized what was wierd with that head before actually, but ignored it ;)

i think the main problem is the inside of a cat's ear usually is turned towards the cat's eye, in this case the inside of the ear is turned down, the outside of it is turned towards the eye. but when i realized that i ignored it, cause the ear just looked nice as is over there, and I thought of an excuse like: well, the cat is just coming out of her body so the pieces of it's head didn't reach their final placement yet... hehehhehehehehehehe. a classic artist's excuse to not fix things. but there it is, I'm busted, so gotta go and fix that i guess.

thanks for the help! It's most appreciated... please let me know if u see anything else!

[Jeffparadox]

Here is the latest progress, all comments are welcome. I turned of the branch, frog, and the lightfog this time, acoording to some comments I received...


http://www.jefftreves.com/Uykucular/uykucu-005d.jpg

[matsman]

Oeh.. I like it :) it is a little softer this way... and more dreamlike

But I think you still need something in that top right corner... it feels kinda empty now that the branch is gone. I guess you had the branch planned in your composition since we can really feel the absence.

I would also make another suggestion... I just noticed the black cat left side.. hadn't seen that one before :thumbsup: but it looks kinda plasticy, or rubberry even, especially the top of the head. My suggestion is to highlight a few hairs so it gets a little furrier and mabe even turn its head a bit up so we can see a little more face... however that last one is a lot of work so you may dismiss it without me minding one bit :)

What are you going with the frog... since you said earlier it needed to be included?

you can make it sit in the grass, a little bit higher than before... there seems just a spot.

Anyway... Still a nice piece. I would actually like this as a poster on my wall :) :wavey:

[Jeffparadox]

matsman -

Thanks for the feedback! Well, everyone complained about the frog, so I decided to keep it out, and make two version when printing - one with one witout the frog. I changed the black cat, and fixed abuch of things. I think it's almost there. I'll look at it for a couple of days more, and finish after a few last fixes probably.

Please let me know what you think before I finish, and any fixes you may see. Hope you like it!


http://www.jefftreves.com/Uykucular/uykucu-005f.jpg

[matsman]

Hi.. nice work on the black cat... ver hard to see now but very natural and mysterious... love it.

I just looked if I could see something that needed some work... and I could find a detail :)

the red cat on the right that stretches its paw... I think he/she needs some nails on that paw...

I think that is the very last suggestion on my part... very nice...

BTW... you said print.. can we buy it as a poster? or is it for a magazine or book?

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