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blurgh
11-04-2007, 09:39 PM
Hi guys,
been mucking aroudn doing a 4 legged run cycle this weekend, now I havnt touched the tail as of yet and im getting a lot of twinning on both sets of legs still and havnt offset anything yet!, but is there something wrong with the general body movement? I think there is but I cant put my finger on it?

anyway hope someone can shed light on it for me :D

lookielookie (http://www.tobywinder.com/side.mov)

cheers
-D

voriax
11-05-2007, 12:11 AM
Look around for some reference of a real dog or wolf running..
From what I can see without checking refs is that he's not stretching far enough front and back when taking each leap, and when the front legs come back, they should go much farther back and the back legs overlap the front. Both front and back legs should give a strong pushing action.
At the moment he almost looks like he's doing a little sneak-jump. There's no kapow in the movement, no strength..
Try to look for greyhounds running, as they're a good example of the extremes of dogs running.
Hope this helps.

Wilson-3d
11-06-2007, 04:32 PM
I would check out the Preston Blair book for sure but I am thinking offsetting the legs would add alot. You have it a little in spots but then they sync up and hit at the same time. It is off to a great start.

LiannaS
11-08-2007, 12:51 AM
I agree with voriax, it's clear you're not using enough real reference here. Another good resource on 4-legged runs is the survival guide by Richard Williams. It's good that you tried to get the whole thing working together, but the legs need some individual attention on how you pose them.

LiannaS
11-08-2007, 12:53 AM
watch the head arc, it's a little jittery

blurgh
11-11-2007, 09:51 PM
hello me again,
well Ive made a few changes still havnt really addressed any problems liek the twinning in the legs, and the body movement still feels wierd to me :/ am I missing a key pose or something?
having real trouble finding some good reference of dogs runnign thats good enough quality that I can see whats going on. From what I have managed to see it looks like in reality most running is not as extreme as mine and there not so much up and down motion?

The main change Ive made is that the back legs now cross with the front ones on the outside rahter than the inside which I think is more correct and looks a lil less uncomfortable?

let me know what you think. This is proving a lot more difficult than I thought :). bloody animal motion!

any way have a look (http://www.tobywinder.com/run.mov)

-D

SpiritPeddler
11-12-2007, 01:47 AM
iam loving that model darken.

so yeah..the feet at the front and back shouldnt both be landing at the same time..there should be a small..wee tiny split second gap..imagine two people walking one behind another...and then shove a horses costume on them if ye know wot i mean.

youve done a good job so far by keeping the head positioned at what hes running at but needs more oomph and you will accomplish it. :)

i did a quick search for ye.. for your dog frisbee needs (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FiTC-2vs5i4)..if your wolf plans on jumpin that is.:scream:

and this will probably be more help lots of running in good quality (http://stage6.divx.com/user/sonofryer/video/1144446/Dog-mushing-in-Alaska)

p.s... try drawing out the frames aswell...itl help fix those poses in your mind :thumbsup:

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