View Full Version : How do you do it? High Poly modeling
==NoMercy== 11-03-2007, 11:50 PM Hey guys, I'm a high school student looking to get into 3D animation and VFX. I'll be applying to a few colleges in Ontario for next year, but it'd still like to be ahead :P.
Now, this isn't really asking how you model high poly meshes. It's more of, how do you plan a high poly model. I'm talking mainly mechanical things, like weapons etc. I'm looking to learn a lot in my next project, a really detailed weapon, it'd be my own design but with a modern look. Problem is, I have never touched, or seen a gun in real life. So my question is, how do you most of you model all these details with low quality references? A lot of these images I find it really hard to see things, and I haven't a clue what they do, besides the trigger (XD I'm a noob). Another thing would be tips on thinking of designs for Futuristic things, I'm guessing just watch a lot of movies? Any additional tips on getting started on high poly modeling would be nice.
Thanks!
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deli-rium
11-04-2007, 01:12 AM
I did some high poly weapon models myself and my only advice would be to find reference as much as you can. There are a lots of sites, forums dedicated to specific weapons as well as forums dedicated to military or contract formations where you can find regular and customised weaponry.
I, myself, have 14 GB of reference pictures of any weapon, rig, BDU's that I could find. That include manuals, cleaning instructions, etc. It's a part of a job. It will also help you to understand how weapons work, which will come beneficial later on when designing some imaginary but believable ones.
GrogMcGee
11-04-2007, 04:31 AM
Also to some extent one doesn't model the highest level of detail. In general you should be aiming to model just enough to be able to get the detail you want. Subdivision is your friend.
prophecy313
11-16-2007, 07:10 PM
Hi, im in my 3rd year of college for this. I dont consider myself professional but the best piece of advice i can give you is to start of very basic. Have good reference as well. If you have a good set of orthographic images, you can model anything. What you do is depending on what your building, usually start off with a box. From there connect edges and move verts around to the edges of what your building. Note: dont forget to do it in other views as well or it wont work very well. Try to keep it as symmetrical as possible unless object is not. If it is, try deleting half of the polys on one side and build only half. Then use symmetry, much easier! Once you get your model down pretty good, you can then (depending on if object is organic or not) either continue to unwrapping or add a smooth to it. From there you should be able to figure what you want to do. You might be confused about some of the terms here are but thats easy enough to find out. Plenty of good tutorials around the interwebz. Hope that helps and good luck!
Stinger88
11-16-2007, 10:51 PM
Its very important that you research your study (guns/weapons) alot. Look at the steps in design over the years then look at future weapons. High quality reference is very important in getting your models correct. If you cant find any , draw it like i do. just make sure it all lines up. When designing a concept piece think about how technology advances might shape it (look at the sonic weapons in minority reports). Then think about how the user might hold or fire it. Changing things like putting the gun barrel under the trigger instead of over it. Although it might not be better in terms of usability it might make it look cool. anyway. I'll share my reference list with you. Theres some weapons in there somewhere...enjoy
Blueprints:
http://www.suurland.com/ (http://www.suurland.com/)
http://www.onnovanbraam.com/ (http://www.onnovanbraam.com/)
http://smcars.nd4spdworld.com/ (http://smcars.nd4spdworld.com/)
http://www.battlefield.ru/ (http://www.battlefield.ru/)
http://www.animationmeat.com/ (http://www.animationmeat.com/)
http://www.onwar.com/ (http://www.onwar.com/)
http://www.airwar.ru/ (http://www.airwar.ru/)
http://www.homeplanfinder.com/ (http://www.homeplanfinder.com/)
http://www.eplans.com/ (http://www.eplans.com/)
http://www.blueprint69.com/ (http://www.blueprint69.com/)
http://www.b3d.by.ru/draughts.htm (http://www.b3d.by.ru/draughts.htm)
http://smcars.nd4spdworld.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=437 (http://smcars.nd4spdworld.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=437)
Reference Images:
http://www.fineart.sk/ (http://www.fineart.sk/)
http://www.3d.sk/ (http://www.3d.sk/)
http://www.metagons.com/ (http://www.metagons.com/)
http://www.carfolio.com/ (http://www.carfolio.com/)
http://www.greatbuildings.com/ (http://www.greatbuildings.com/)
http://www.securityarms.com/ (http://www.securityarms.com/)
http://www.animalpicturesarchive.com/ (http://www.animalpicturesarchive.com/)
http://gallery.hairboutique.com/ (http://gallery.hairboutique.com/)
http://www.wetcanvas.com/ArtSchool/...tomy/index.html (http://www.wetcanvas.com/ArtSchool/...tomy/index.html)
http://www.medievalweaponart.com/default.asp (http://www.medievalweaponart.com/default.asp)
http://warhawkppc.tripod.com/1.html (http://warhawkppc.tripod.com/1.html)
http://www.swaqvalley.com/ (http://www.swaqvalley.com/)
http://www.correct-proportion.com (http://www.correct-proportion.com/)
http://armor.kiev.ua/Tanks/ (http://armor.kiev.ua/Tanks/)
http://www.flightjournal.com (http://www.flightjournal.com/)
http://tanxheaven.com/referencepictures.htm (http://tanxheaven.com/referencepictures.htm)
Other video tutorial sites:
http://www.3d-palace.com (http://www.3d-palace.com/)
http://www.digital-tutors.com (http://www.digital-tutors.com/)
http://www.pixelacademy.co.uk (http://www.pixelacademy.co.uk/)
http://www.vtc.com (http://www.vtc.com/)
http://www.gnomononline.com (http://www.gnomononline.com/)
http://www.simplymaya.com (http://www.simplymaya.com/)
http://www.edharriss.com (http://www.edharriss.com/)
http://www.simplylightwave.com (http://www.simplylightwave.com/)
http://www.masterasap.com (http://www.masterasap.com/)
http://www.3dluvr.com (http://www.3dluvr.com/)
http://www.max3d.pl/art-other/video-tutorial.php (http://www.max3d.pl/art-other/video-tutorial.php)
http://www.discreet.com/3dsmax/tutorials.html (http://www.discreet.com/3dsmax/tutorials.html)
http://www.redpixel.com.br/ (http://www.redpixel.com.br/)
http://www.particlefx.com/education/PFlow/ (http://www.particlefx.com/education/PFlow/)
http://www.allanmckay.com/ (http://www.allanmckay.com/)
http://www.vislab.usyd.edu.au/sidefx/houdini_video/ (http://www.vislab.usyd.edu.au/sidefx/houdini_video/)
http://www.evermotion.org/gifts.htm (http://www.evermotion.org/gifts.htm)
[Vehicles Blueprints]
-Cars
http://cgworld.ru/modules.php?name=Blueprints (http://cgworld.ru/modules.php?name=Blueprints) - Large Collection of Cars.
http://www.3dmodelart.com.ar/docseng/eng_servicios5.htm (http://www.3dmodelart.com.ar/docseng/eng_servicios5.htm) - Some of Everything
http://www.highresautoimages.com/ (http://www.highresautoimages.com/) - Hi Res Photos
http://3dviewport.com/blueprints/index.php?lang=eng (http://3dviewport.com/blueprints/index.php?lang=eng) - Some of Everything
http://3dcenter.ru/blueprints/cars/cars.shtml (http://3dcenter.ru/blueprints/cars/cars.shtml)
http://www.diecastmuscle.com/index.jsp (http://www.diecastmuscle.com/index.jsp)
http://community.webshots.com/user/nfszizo (http://community.webshots.com/user/nfszizo)
http://www.onnovanbraam.com/index.php?main=blueprints (http://www.onnovanbraam.com/index.php?main=blueprints)
http://www.ho-modelle.de/zeichn/index.html (http://www.ho-modelle.de/zeichn/index.html)
http://www.sssbrno.cz/monako/auta-planky.htm (http://www.sssbrno.cz/monako/auta-planky.htm)
http://vsrnonline.com/Mags/MC/MC_Plans.html (http://vsrnonline.com/Mags/MC/MC_Plans.html)
http://smcars.nd4spdworld.com/forum/ (http://smcars.nd4spdworld.com/forum/)
http://www.yojoe.com/vehicles/ (http://www.yojoe.com/vehicles/)
http://www.mgussin.freeuk.com/00Plans.htm (http://www.mgussin.freeuk.com/00Plans.htm)
http://www.mgussin.freeuk.com/00Plans.htm (http://www.mgussin.freeuk.com/00Plans.htm) - Car plans published in Model Cars magazine
http://www.darc.ru/Resource/drawings.php?IdG=3 (http://www.darc.ru/Resource/drawings.php?IdG=3) cars, planes, boats...
http://www.design-classic-cars.de/eingang.html (http://www.design-classic-cars.de/eingang.html) old cars
http://www.lifelineambulance.com/vehicles.htm (http://www.lifelineambulance.com/vehicles.htm) ambulance vehicles
-Aircraft
http://users.hol.gr/~nowi/ (http://users.hol.gr/~nowi/) - Nazi Camo & Colors + more
http://www.vought.com/heritage/html/down.html (http://www.vought.com/heritage/html/down.html) - Vought Aircraft
http://worldweapon.ru/ (http://worldweapon.ru/) - Weapons of all kinds
http://www.soko.hr/source/Addon/Man..._spec_index.htm (http://www.soko.hr/source/Addon/Man..._spec_index.htm) - Mig-21
http://music.jnu.edu.cn/air-net/Images/TK/FMpic2-1.htm (http://music.jnu.edu.cn/air-net/Images/TK/FMpic2-1.htm) - Mostly Photos, Some B/P
http://www.suchoj.com/galerie/index.htm (http://www.suchoj.com/galerie/index.htm) - Nice List. Not English
http://www.fortunecity.com/marina/manatee/272/ (http://www.fortunecity.com/marina/manatee/272/) - Huge List. Mostly low res
http://www.f-15estrikeeagle.com/nav...index_intro.htm (http://www.f-15estrikeeagle.com/nav...index_intro.htm) - F-15 Shots & Info
http://skystone.biz/pictures/scale/ (http://skystone.biz/pictures/scale/) - Low Res Plans
AH-64 Apache
F/A-22
Spitfire
A-10
F-15 Eagle
Mig-29
http://www.3dmodelart.com.ar/docseng/eng_servicios5.htm (http://www.3dmodelart.com.ar/docseng/eng_servicios5.htm) - Some of Everything
http://www.dfrc.nasa.gov/Gallery/Graphics/index.html (http://www.dfrc.nasa.gov/Gallery/Graphics/index.html) - Dryden Research Some eps to.
http://3dviewport.com/blueprints/index.php?lang=eng (http://3dviewport.com/blueprints/index.php?lang=eng) - Some of Everything
http://avia.russian.ee/vertigo/full_list.html (http://avia.russian.ee/vertigo/full_list.html)
http://www.onnovanbraam.com/index.php?main=blueprints (http://www.onnovanbraam.com/index.php?main=blueprints)
http://www.flightsimnetwork.com/aircraft3-view/ (http://www.flightsimnetwork.com/aircraft3-view/)
http://www.aircraftdesign.com/acpix.html (http://www.aircraftdesign.com/acpix.html)
http://trc.dfrc.nasa.gov/Gallery/Graphics/index.html (http://trc.dfrc.nasa.gov/Gallery/Graphics/index.html)
http://www.airwar.ru/other/drawe.html (http://www.airwar.ru/other/drawe.html)
http://www.daveswarbirds.com/usplanes/american.htm (http://www.daveswarbirds.com/usplanes/american.htm)
http://gra.midco.net/mlgould/ (http://gra.midco.net/mlgould/)
http://www.hyperscale.com/ (http://www.hyperscale.com/)
http://www.aviacherteg.narod.ru/ (http://www.aviacherteg.narod.ru/)
http://www.aircraftresourcecenter.com/walk.htm (http://www.aircraftresourcecenter.com/walk.htm)
http://www.aircraftwalkaround.com/ (http://www.aircraftwalkaround.com/)
http://www.ipclub.ru/arsenal/hardware/draws/ (http://www.ipclub.ru/arsenal/hardware/draws/) russian planes
http://mars.ark.com/~mdf/nieuport.html (http://mars.ark.com/~mdf/nieuport.html) ww1 nieuport site
http://www.seawings.co.uk/reference.htm (http://www.seawings.co.uk/reference.htm) seaplanes
http://www.cockpits.pp.ru/index.html (http://www.cockpits.pp.ru/index.html) russian cockpits
http://www.luftwaffe-experten.com/aircraft.html (http://www.luftwaffe-experten.com/aircraft.html) luftwaffe camouflage
http://www.b-domke.de/AviationImages.html (http://www.b-domke.de/AviationImages.html) Aviation close up pics
-Space
http://www.onnovanbraam.com/index.php?main=blueprints (http://www.onnovanbraam.com/index.php?main=blueprints)
http://www.trek-reference.com/page.php (http://www.trek-reference.com/page.php)
-Ships
http://www.3dmodelart.com.ar/docseng/eng_servicios5.htm (http://www.3dmodelart.com.ar/docseng/eng_servicios5.htm) - Some of Everything
http://3dviewport.com/blueprints/index.php?lang=eng (http://3dviewport.com/blueprints/index.php?lang=eng) - Some of Everything
http://www.boat-links.com/Ideal/Designers.html (http://www.boat-links.com/Ideal/Designers.html)
http://www.heiszwolf.com/subs/plans/plans.html (http://www.heiszwolf.com/subs/plans/plans.html)
http://www.onnovanbraam.com/index.php?main=blueprints (http://www.onnovanbraam.com/index.php?main=blueprints)
http://www.steelnavy.com/Morskaya%20Kollecktshia.htm (http://www.steelnavy.com/Morskaya%20Kollecktshia.htm)
http://wunderwaffe.narod.ru/WeaponBook (http://wunderwaffe.narod.ru/WeaponBook)
http://www.iespana.es/PlasticLlero2/_sgg/m2m3s2_1.htm (http://www.iespana.es/PlasticLlero2/_sgg/m2m3s2_1.htm)
Ships
http://www.shipmodels.ru/plans/eng/ (http://www.shipmodels.ru/plans/eng/)
http://www.rnkeo.com/fleet/index.htm (http://www.rnkeo.com/fleet/index.htm)
http://kolouch.webpark.cz/rcmodely/planky/download.htm (http://kolouch.webpark.cz/rcmodely/planky/download.htm)
http://www.sssbrno.cz/monako/lode-planky.htm (http://www.sssbrno.cz/monako/lode-planky.htm)
http://www.sssbrno.cz/monako/lode-planky2.htm (http://www.sssbrno.cz/monako/lode-planky2.htm)
http://www.history.navy.mil/branches/org11-2.htm (http://www.history.navy.mil/branches/org11-2.htm) ships...
-Tanks
http://www.tanxheaven.com/ (http://www.tanxheaven.com/) - Tanks Heaven
http://worldweapon.ru/ (http://worldweapon.ru/) - Weapons of all kinds
http://www.3dmodelart.com.ar/docseng/eng_servicios5.htm (http://www.3dmodelart.com.ar/docseng/eng_servicios5.htm) - Some of Everything
http://3dviewport.com/blueprints/index.php?lang=eng (http://3dviewport.com/blueprints/index.php?lang=eng) - Some of Everything
http://www.battlefield.ru (http://www.battlefield.ru/)
http://www.sssbrno.cz/monako/auta-planky.htm (http://www.sssbrno.cz/monako/auta-planky.htm)
http://www.onnovanbraam.com/index.php?main=blueprints (http://www.onnovanbraam.com/index.php?main=blueprints)
http://www.iespana.es/PlasticLlero2/_sgg/m2m3s1_1.htm (http://www.iespana.es/PlasticLlero2/_sgg/m2m3s1_1.htm)
-Trains
http://www.nycsubway.org/cars/workcars.html (http://www.nycsubway.org/cars/workcars.html) New York subway (just few models have plans: R37, R41...)
http://home.att.net/~NLMS/articles/2/hondNL.html (http://home.att.net/~NLMS/articles/2/hondNL.html) scroll to Tekeningen & there are 6 plans
[Character Photo Reference and Model Sheets]
http://www.bbcmotiongallery.com/cus...playing/feature (http://www.bbcmotiongallery.com/cus...playing/feature) - Motion Footage
http://www.catsuka.com/interf/gengal/gal.htm (http://www.catsuka.com/interf/gengal/gal.htm) - Character Sheets. Anime mostly.
http://www.ma.psu.edu/~pt/384anat.htm (http://www.ma.psu.edu/~pt/384anat.htm)
http://www.alltheweb.com/search?cat...ery=model+sheet (http://www.alltheweb.com/search?cat...ery=model+sheet)
http://www.3d.sk/ (http://www.3d.sk/)
http://www.sirkain.net/~dogz/modelsheets_arc/ (http://www.sirkain.net/~dogz/modelsheets_arc/)
http://www.correct-proportion.com/ (http://www.correct-proportion.com/)
http://www.garycmartin.com/phoneme_examples.html (http://www.garycmartin.com/phoneme_examples.html)
http://education.yahoo.com/reference/gray/ (http://education.yahoo.com/reference/gray/)
http://www.fineart.sk/ (http://www.fineart.sk/)
[Various Reference Pictures]
http://worldweapon.ru/ (http://worldweapon.ru/) - Weapons of all kinds
http://www.choeuncadcam.co.kr/chine...y/assembly.asp# (http://www.choeuncadcam.co.kr/chine...y/assembly.asp#) - Miscellaneous interesting stuff
http://artmorgue.com/ (http://artmorgue.com/)
http://www.hfinster.de/StahlArt2/archive-en.html (http://www.hfinster.de/StahlArt2/archive-en.html)
http://ftp.sunet.se/ftp/pub/pictures/tv.film/ (http://ftp.sunet.se/ftp/pub/pictures/tv.film/)
http://www.cloudster.com (http://www.cloudster.com/) - The Model Builders Reference Vault
http://www.stargatetechworld.com/photo/index.html (http://www.stargatetechworld.com/photo/index.html) Stargate sg-1 references pictures.
http://www.planetquake.com/polycoun...ref_links.shtml (http://www.planetquake.com/polycoun...ref_links.shtml) Reference links archive
Buildings and Architecture
http://3dviewport.com/blueprints/index.php?lang=eng (http://3dviewport.com/blueprints/index.php?lang=eng) - Some of Everything
http://www.pitt.edu/~medart/index.html (http://www.pitt.edu/~medart/index.html) medivial architecture - cathedrals
[Graphic Related Material]
http://stock.b-man.dk/ (http://stock.b-man.dk/) - Stock Photos
http://www.logo.nino.ru/ (http://www.logo.nino.ru/)
http://www.eaglestrikeproductions.com/cgi-bin/amd2.pl (http://www.eaglestrikeproductions.com/cgi-bin/amd2.pl)
http://www.ipmsstockholm.org/colorc...colorcharts.asp (http://www.ipmsstockholm.org/colorc...colorcharts.asp)
http://www.concentric.net/~Rojo1/camocolors.html (http://www.concentric.net/~Rojo1/camocolors.html)
Weapons
http://worldweapon.ru/ (http://worldweapon.ru/) - Weapons of all kinds
http://www.swordsdirect.com/ (http://www.swordsdirect.com/) Swords, daggers, armor, medieval, renaissance weapons
hoogberg
11-17-2007, 12:51 AM
wow, thanks a lot
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