My BA progress

[flingster]

nice coming along....
like the words...are you ok....
"no goddamn it a car hit me...i can see a purple man!! just messin' excellent stuff...keep us all up to date...does that deadline still seem as tight as a few week ago?
:applause:

[Wilson-3d]

Very well done! Are you familiar with attik design? You probably are but I just wanted to mention it. Check them out if not. The pictures do a great job of what you are shooting for.

[phobos]

Hello to all!!!

Flingster the deadline feels still quite tight!!!
I have only 2 of 20 images ready. This means that I need to make 4 images a week to be o.k with the deadline....
I'm gonna try to do the best job I can do with this limited time but I just don't know how the hell am I gonna make it!!!!

It's the first time I'm panicing about the deadline of a project and I have to say that panicking isn't nice... at all :cry:

[flingster]

compromise on areas that may take longer than usual.
what areas are re-useable?
text tricks and blurs etc as you've been doing will help...colour changes, lighting changes to similar scenes may help by allowing you to reuse backgrounds etc.
dunno just a thought.
good luck and keep pushing....
why is it you need 20 images exactly...why not 5 say...dunno.

:shrug:

[CosmicBear]

nice work! i really like the feel of those images!

will the final product 'only' (not ment in a negative way!!!!!!) this series of images in the book or are there any other products planed as well?

[phobos]

Flingster it was my damn tutors demand to have quantity. I explained to him that 3d isn't a walk in the park but I just couldn't change his mind... I was aiming for 5 (you really nailed the number!!!) illustrations but it was very low for him....

Cosmic bear yep my final paper will be this book. A series of illustrations that tell this mans story. Do you think that I need to do some more stuff?
The book will have some more pages with some more typography that will blend everything together even more. So we are talking for 46 pages printed on a 200gr paper. It will look and feel ok (I think) on the quantity side :thumbsup: Do you have something in mind?
Oh I forgot also to tell you that the book will be huge in dimensions. 70cmX20cm when opened.
( 35X20 closed. Woohooo I'm a mathematic genius....)

[phobos]

Another image. It's a bar scene. Everybody looks like ghost because the character sees them as faceless feauturless people with no meaning for him

http://users.otenet.gr/~jim08088/Bar1.jpg

http://users.otenet.gr/~jim08088/Bar2.jpg

http://users.otenet.gr/~jim08088/Bar3.jpg

[flingster]

thats cool..bud...like it.
:thumbsup:


(don't forget...quantity isn't quality....those who can, do...those who can't, teach....tutors don't know everything...but they essentially get you the grade...so you gotta toe the line i'm afraid..at least until you get the ba...) the system sux in someways but...in others it works...its just whilst the system is busy spitting you out you don't realise it....:bounce: )...not that i did arts...but the principle is the same imho.)

[CosmicBear]

Originally posted by phobos
Cosmic bear yep my final paper will be this book. A series of illustrations that tell this mans story. Do you think that I need to do some more stuff?
The book will have some more pages with some more typography that will blend everything together even more. So we are talking for 46 pages printed on a 200gr paper. It will look and feel ok (I think) on the quantity side :thumbsup: Do you have something in mind?
Oh I forgot also to tell you that the book will be huge in dimensions. 70cmX20cm when opened.
( 35X20 closed. Woohooo I'm a mathematic genius....)

as far as i can tell, you're not only fine on the quantity but also on the quality-side! and a book with 46 pages and those fabulos images are fantastic! how much time do you have for the entire project? (I'm working day and night on my masters-degree these days. deadline is june 20th, so i can image what you're going through. i keep every available finger crossed for you and your project!)

[phobos]

Flingster it's not only the sytem that sucks it's my school in particualr that sucks even more....
Many times I found my self knowing much more than a teacher and also making stuff of much higher quality than my teacher.....
Not to mention that on the first year we had a teacher that was teaching graphic design and he wasn't even practicing his job!!!! On the real life he was a decorator. 30 or so years before he had a degree of grpahic design but never used it.... So you understand the quality of the lesson we had. A man who is teaching graphic design with what tools? All that he learned 30 years before. And this for a field that everything changes very very fast!!!!

And this is only an example...

Cosmic bear thanks for your encouraging comments.
The project must be finished the second week of may. The third week of the same month it will be printed and binded and on 26 we bring our papers to our school. June 1st- June 15 we make our presentations and get graded. As you can things are quite tight here.
As you can see the 6 month semester isn't quite 6 months. It's 3 1/2 months..... I lost all march by figuring out how to build the character and other stuff so things got even tighter :shrug: Oh well gotta go now. Must continue my work.... Hope by the end of the day I'll have another image ready.

Oh amd cosmic bear don't forget to cross your toe fingers. I reallly need so many fingers crossed to complete this project!

[JIII]

man your stuff is turning out to be really nice.
good luck and all that I remember when yor project was just a little baby one. sniff sniff i am getting all sentimental.

nice work man real nice.

[phobos]

Hello JII. I'm glad you like them. Knowing that more people than my self find these illustrations good really motivates me.

Here is another image. His girlfriend has left him. So he is trying visually to remember her. The letters on the right are temporary. I'm not quite satisfied with the way they blend with the image and also don't have the correct text. (It's from a draft I made for my masters subject. Oh by the way I've been accepted by kent for a master. Next year i'll be in UK. Woohoo!! )

Anyway,.....

Here is the image

http://users.otenet.gr/~jim08088/Wood1.jpg

http://users.otenet.gr/~jim08088/Wood2.jpg

http://users.otenet.gr/~jim08088/Wood3.jpg

[flingster]

well done on the offer....:thumbsup:

again nice work...i really like this one...simple..but slick.:applause:

[phobos]

Here's another image

It's near the end of the whole story when the mind of our hero gets really messed. The door symbolizes heaven. He can't access this door. It doesn't have any stairs and also its locked with all sort of locks. The only thing he has is endless stairs that lead downstairs....

The door was supposed to have a base that would be destroyed in small pieces to make more visible the inaccessibility of the door. But I need to move on to the other images. So if I have the time I'll go back and add it.

Anyway here is the image

http://users.otenet.gr/~jim08088/Stairs1.jpg

http://users.otenet.gr/~jim08088/Stairs2.jpg

http://users.otenet.gr/~jim08088/Stairs3.jpg


Waiting for your comments.

PS: To all of you who will read the message and won't post: Don't be shy! Your comments whether they will be bad or good would be really helpful. So common press the reply button!!

[dandavis]

Yea, I'm really diggin this. Just something about it. Nice and sort of dream like.

[flingster]

its cool.
the only thing i don't like...and i say that lightly...cos its something i think i can live with! heh heh.
the stairs that run off after the doorway...you shouldn't be able to see beyond the doorway (get rid of stairs behind)...if you understand what i'm getting at...i love the whole width of the scene...and the whole feeling of depth and distance you got....i would be tempted to move the door slightly further away to the right and maybe smaller...just follow path further up and central placement on stairs. also i would get some of the streams of light to extend a little further out...i also like the smooth stairs look of those on the right side. Again as usual this is imho...will give you something to think about...quite quick to tryout anyway...if not and it doesn't work..just put it back...
nice work coming along good.
:thumbsup:

[phobos]

Flingster your recommendations are very good and I have thought about them also. If I have some time I'll make some corrections on the stairs illustration and the others.

2 more pictures.

This one symbolizes the heros childhood. We all remember our childhood as innocent years with purity on our hearts. That's exactly what I want to say with this picture. The hard shadows are the remindings of the heros age and the loss of innocence. Notice also the cubes that make the word death. It's sort of an reminding from the hero that he is dying. Also the clock on the right is an intervention of the heros mind that the time is flying.

http://users.otenet.gr/~jim08088/Toys1.jpg

http://users.otenet.gr/~jim08088/Toyshalf1.jpg

http://users.otenet.gr/~jim08088/Toyshalf2.jpg


The second image. I want to talk about the lack of communication on the heros life with other people. That why the other person is half solid half transparent

http://users.otenet.gr/~jim08088/Contact1.jpg

http://users.otenet.gr/~jim08088/Contact2.jpg

http://users.otenet.gr/~jim08088/Contact3.jpg


Hope you like them and waiting for your comments.

[flingster]

don't even touch the box of toys image...perfect imho.

the second one...the heroes body need to be represented as more solid like his face...and get rid of ghosting around face area...but ONLY on the bit that overlaps the doorway...i like the flare effect on his face...but not the ghosting part.

youre nearly there by now aren't you?

btw...if you get chance later...couldn't give us a bit more info on how you lit these scenes...and what sort of texturing you used to get that dreamy quality to it? thanks...i know youre pushed for time...but a quickie synopsis would be cool...:thumbsup:

[AdamT]

I like the style very much, but to me the cardboard box doesn't look anything like cardboard. Maybe it's some kind of stiff canvas box?

[phobos]

Hey flingster I'm glad you like the images.Unfortunately I'm not even close finishing this project... With the image below I have 8 images. I need 12 more to finish this.... I'm working really hard here and I have to produce 1 image a day to make it happen!!! It's really hard I'm not a machine producing images every second. Anyway I'll make it happen.
I assure you that after finishing this project I'll write some tips on how to produce the dreamy look you say. It's mainly photoshop work. You know after many hours at my computer when the day ends I just want to shut it down and forget about it until the next day. But I promise I'll post as soon as I finish.


Adam I'm happy you like the style very much. You are very careful at your selection of words.;) So I guess that you don't like the pictures but you like the style? I don't have any problem at all I just want to know what people think about them.
I guess you are right about the cardboard box. It doesn't have the quality of an ordinary box. I wanted it to be old and sort of wet(the wrinkles) ready to dissolve and fall out.

And here is a new image

http://users.otenet.gr/~jim08088/OnTheGround1.jpg

http://users.otenet.gr/~jim08088/OnTheGround2.jpg

http://users.otenet.gr/~jim08088/OnTheGround3.jpg


Waiting for your comments

Oh forgot to talk about this image. It's the heroes eyes when he gets hit by the car. Notice at the right his figure flying on the air.

[flingster]

find it hard. to see the guy...is it just me? eye also looks kinda concave...dunno why though.

i agree with adamt on box...but now you say its wet and falling apart then its fine.

next....:bounce:
keep going man...can't believe how much you've done already...all quality...IMHO...so i think your lecturer...(errh decorator)...will be impressed...heh heh.
:thumbsup:

[phobos]

Maybe this will help to see the guy

http://users.otenet.gr/~jim08088/fly.jpg

About the concavness (oh my I'm killing the english language here!!!!) sorry I can't see nothing wrong. The eye is supposed to be concave. Anyway

Oh and about my tutor. Thank God my tutor isn't the decorator guy. The decorator guy was a teacher of mine last year. My tutor practices graphic design but doesn't know much about 3d....

[JIII]

Nice man havent commented lately as my 56k modem hates your large images.

but its looking really good.

I think that by concave he ment the the colored part of the eye, the iris is a bit to deep looking.

But I don't really have a probmel with this, that and I dont know all that much about eyes.

So I couldnt really comment.


Ohh and nice psoingfor the guy flying through the air but whats that on his ass? or does he just have one giant ghetto booty.

[phobos]

Yes JII he has some huge ass. The fact is that he didn't but after modelling him in position it seems that I have done something wrong with it and got this huge ass!!!

Anyway here is a new picture.

Some people say that every memory in our mind is stored neatly in its little box on our mind. With this accident our heros memories are ready to burst out of his head. (The expanding white light)

http://users.otenet.gr/~jim08088/Memories1.jpg

http://users.otenet.gr/~jim08088/Memories2.jpg

http://users.otenet.gr/~jim08088/Memories3.jpg

And here is an alternative version of the picture with fewer light

http://users.otenet.gr/~jim08088/MemoriesAlten.jpg

Because of the way I build the images I can change pretty much everything with a slider change of a certain layer. So I can change the whole lighting the lightin of a row the colour of a row etc. So if you have anything in mind say it!!!

As always waiting for comments

[flingster]

prefer the more light concept rather than less.
(i presumed you modelled the shelf and box stuff?)
how about instead of the rows of shelves...all looking like a factory....why not a different shape....dunno what...the other problem with a different shape is people might not be able to recognise the inference of box=memory=stacked factory etc.

dig this project...even though the pics are dreamy...its definitely a CLEAR vision...so good on ya.

[phobos]

New images...

I have to create 5 more to finish. The 4 of them are the same pictures but at different timeframe. It's a lightbulb exploding. So I'm hoping that it won't take long. Anyaway here are the images

He's working on a fast food and he's hating his work.

http://idisk.mac.com/dkatsafouros/Public/Fast.jpg


http://idisk.mac.com/dkatsafouros/Public/Fast2.jpg

http://idisk.mac.com/dkatsafouros/Public/Fast3.jpg


I think the next image is one of the poorest most awful image of the whole collection. It's a bout religion and his faith for it

http://idisk.mac.com/dkatsafouros/Public/Relig1.jpg

http://idisk.mac.com/dkatsafouros/Public/Relig2.jpg


http://idisk.mac.com/dkatsafouros/Public/Relig3.jpg

[phobos]

The next image talks about his sex life. The images you will understand them better with the text that will follow. Before each picture there will be some text talking revealing his thoughts so things would be much clearer

http://idisk.mac.com/dkatsafouros/Public/SexScene1.jpg

http://idisk.mac.com/dkatsafouros/Public/SexScene2.jpg

http://idisk.mac.com/dkatsafouros/Public/SexScene3.jpg

[phobos]

These 2 pictures are the last ones when he dies. He sorta dissolves. I think that's the best way to vissually kill him...

http://users.otenet.gr/~jim08088/Diss1.jpg

http://users.otenet.gr/~jim08088/Diss2.jpg

http://users.otenet.gr/~jim08088/Diss3.jpg

http://users.otenet.gr/~jim08088/Diss4.jpg


http://users.otenet.gr/~jim08088/Diss5.jpg

http://users.otenet.gr/~jim08088/Diss6.jpg

[flingster]

very cool.
on the fast food one...he's really thinking " do you want fries with that!!!!!" heh heh.

the religion one reminds me more of a nightclub scene...i think you could pull it off better..if you extended the image height wise (x3)...symbolizing high vaulted cathedral ceiling feel...then the people at the bottom of the image...say final 3rd of image. but wouldn't increase size of cross...as it would be to in your face.

nice work though...really come along since first post...:thumbsup:

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