James Cameron possible return to the "Alien" franchise

[Signal2Noise]

:bounce:

Yes! Finally! I knew this was in the "discussion" stages for quite some time. Especially when the movie Predator 2 had a slight reference to Alien in one of the scenes. Even Sigourney has been talking about it for the last couple of years.

Contrary to the article I thought both Alien 3 and 4 were quite good. Although Aliens has been the most popular movie out of the series I still maintain that Scott's original Alien is the best. Scott should do Alien 6:bounce:

[NanoGator]

Did anybody else feel like the last Alien movie's budget ran out?

[aurora]

In my book theres only Alien and Aliens. I had to go to a shrink and get some hypnosis done to remove the painful sorrow for the $#@! they created after Aliens. I had never liked the concept of Aliens - vs- Predator. So I'm there with Cameron all the way. Now if he went back and did a new one and actually had a 'real' script I would be very interested.

Oh btw - YEAH no True Lies 2!

[RobertoOrtiz]

I think David Fincher is a great director, but I TRULLY HATED
Alien 3. It made the previous movie, Aliens worth less.


I hope Jim pays him back by bringing back the survivors of Aliens and making Alien3 and 4 a bad dream.

[eliseu gouveia]

I liked Alien 3 and 4, but yes, the end result was very poor, in contrast with the previous films.

So, discarding everything as just some bad dream Ripley had in hipersleep doesn´t sound all that bad.

[augustus]

I think David Fincher is a great director, but I TRULLY HATED
Alien 3.

Fincher hates too. :)

I love Alien 3 and Resurrection, in visual way. But story, script.. No.
Another Alien movie? They're really pushing the possibilities of the story.

[ambient-whisper]

i liked part 3 the most actually:)

one alien... no weapons...gotta take him out somehow.
the only part i didnt like is how much of the actual alien they showed :/ too much at times

and part 4 completely killed that..

[Peter Reynolds]

Alien 3 was visually stunning at times.

But as soon as you find out Ripley can't be touched by the Alien, the tension drops right off. I think it would have worked more as a film if they had of kept the little girl alive. Then Ripley would have had to protect the girl from the alien, the prisoners and herself.

So if they do make another Alien, I hope Cameron does it, and I hope they pay a lot of attention to the script.

I also like the first Alien best. You can really tell RS has paid a lot of attention to detail in terms of the atmosphere, art direction and performance. Same feeling you get with Blade Runner.

[plug3]

Let's do some cross-referencing:

"The director plans to take his own advice next year, when he shoots his next feature film using the same digital 3-D camera system. He’s keeping mum about the subject, although it’s rumored to be either a science-fiction tale or a historical drama."

Here's the article:
http://www.msnbc.com/news/897579.asp?0cv=TA01

[Aristagon]

I liked Alien 3 a lot, right untill the part where they showed the Alien in full glory. That just wasn't right, plus of course the inmates/convicts being able to outrun the alien, I mean "what the...". Alien 4 was OK right up to the point the aliens actually escaped, I thought that was where the movie would really kick into gear, but unfortunately there simply wasn't the atmosphere like there was in the previous 3 installments, with of course 1 and 2 taking the cake.

Not sure if another movie is a great idea, sometimes it's better to leave things alone and remember them for what they were: pretty enjoyable movies!

Then again another Alien movie which goes back to the atmosphere, art etc of the first 2 "episodes" isn't really a bad thing in my book.

[gnarlycranium]

I was pissed about 3... until I saw 4. I actually liked them all. It was pretty sad when they showed too much of the Aliens themselves, and of course the second 2 couldn't hold together the same awesomeness as the first 2.... but STILL... they were damn good! Mostly due to Sigourney Weaver herself... I loved the premise of the 4th movie, and the character that she was. She was.... so... scary.

The idea of another movie kinda weirds me out... but they DID leave it open-ended, didn't they?

And I love the notion of Aliens vs Predator, too.... if somebody does it right!

[Supervlieg]

I'd like to see a alien vs. predator thing happening. If they could come up with some believable story that is. Those are some awesome characters indeed. That would be one hell of a clash.

By the way, I like the first Alien movie the best. The atmosphere was awesome in this movie. Also had to do with the awesome backdrops designed by H.R. Giger. I think aliens Lacked that brilliance in design. The Queen alien was also a bit over the top, I loved the subtlety of the first movie. Those last two were actually bad movies. They lacked the paranoid tension of the first (and to a lesser extent the second)

Love to see a new alien movie though

[sumatra]

Agree., 3 & 4 wasnt good movies, Actually the 4 was horrible, the team lost completely focus, mood etc. It could be another's allien movie, nothing to relate with the first ones.

The vs Predator thing will actually deteriorate the whole saga. Too bad....:annoyed:


Have any of you guys read Gibson's rejected script about the alien3? Not bad at all...

[Signal2Noise]

Say, I was thinking on the drive to work this a.m. (thinking- scary, eh!) about how many movies James Cameron has done with Bill Paxton. 3 is the count now I believe, not including the director's biography film. Do you think this is Mr. Cameron's way of saying, "Sorry for killing off your character (Hudson) so early in Aliens, Bill".

Anyone wanna take a bet we may even see Paxton in Alien 5? Maybe everything was just a bad dream since the first movie and a bit of the second. The aliens turn out to be breeding Teletubbies:scream:

[beaker]

Alien 4 was this movie that had so much potential, but just didn't quite do it. It was missing a bunch of little pieces. I read a version of the script for alien 4 about 6-9 months before it came out and it had some really cool stuff that they cut out of the final script. Alot of the parts they cut looked like they just ripped them out and never fixed the glaring holes in the story that it left. It had alot more action and character development in it. The part where the guards ran for the escape pods like a bunch of wimps didn't happen till they had already been fighting the aliens for a while and the ship was crawling with aliens. Originally there were a bunch of alien battles with the station guards. The end part where the alien gets sucked out the little hole was originally in the middle of the movie with this battle with the aliens and the guards near the edge of the hull of the ship. One of the guards shoots and alien and the acid from it caused a hull breach. Then one of the guards got sucked out through a little hole in the same manner as the end of the movie. When I was reading it and I totally got pictures of marine like battles that were so cool in the Cameron version. I remember reading that the studio wanted the violence tuned down from the script. So they are probably to blame(bastards).

I still like 4, Jeun Piere Junet is such an awsome director. I really hope he takes on another american movie one day. His environments and characters are photographed so well. Though he is still doing great movies(Amelie).

[beaker]

Originally posted by Signal to Noise
Anyone wanna take a bet we may even see Paxton in Alien 5? Maybe everything was just a bad dream since the first movie and a bit of the second. The aliens turn out to be breeding Teletubbies:scream:
Actually I really liked what Ripley's character evolved into in the 4th movie. I would much rather see that character developed more. She was such a bad ass and just had this erie feeling to her. I love the "moma bear protecting her cubs" version of the character from Aliens, but now I really want to see more of the "touch me and and I will kill you sucka" version from #4.

[RobertoOrtiz]

He gave another interview to Associated Press:

http://www.chron.com/cs/CDA/story.hts/headline/entertainment/1859736

And here is a very interesting quote from the article about his feelings about T3, Alien 3 and possibly working with Ridley Scott on another Alien movie:

"Minus Cameron as writer and director, Schwarzenegger stars in the upcoming Terminator 3: Rise of the Machines. The movie was directed by Jonathan Mostow, assuming the role of upstart director taking over someone else's franchise, which Cameron did when he directed 1986's Aliens.

Alien director Ridley Scott initially was not amused, Cameron said. The two subsequently have talked about doing an Alien film together, with Cameron writing and producing and Scott directing, Cameron said.

David Fincher's Alien 3 -- which killed off characters Cameron created, essentially negating the outcome of Aliens -- has braced Cameron for anything that Terminator 3 might deliver.

"I'm like so over that by now. You can't hold on to that stuff," Cameron said. "There's nothing they can do to me on Terminator 3 that's going to be as outrageous as that."
"


OUCH

-Roberto

[DaJuice]

I recently watched the original Alien again, and it's not as good a movie as I originally remembered. I actually like Alien3 better, great atmosphere and the best ending in the series.
Alien Resurrection was one of the worst movies I've EVER seen. The only movie I can think of that I liked less is U-Turn. Oh yeah, Sigourney Weaver shouldn't be in any more Alien movies, she shouldn't even have been in 4 IMO.

[allseeingi]

This is just my own opinion and I'm sure many won't agree with me. It seems to me that the Alien franchise can't successfully continue on the route it is currently following. The first two movies were fine pieces of work in their own right. Alien was the epitome of good horror and suspense. Aliens was a great execution of an action movie. 3 and 4 had some really great elements but on the whole I think most would agree they were not up to the quality of the first two. I also think most would agree that this is not down to the expertise of the directors, who no doubt could have turned out a film every bit as good as Scott's or Cameron's, but the low(er) quality scripts they had to shoot. This is ultimately down to the Studio's. They increasingly don't want to take a risk with the franchise because they know it makes money. Put the same things in with a few new set pieces and just stick the next number on the end. If Alien 5 goes down this route I'm confident it will be the last we hear of it (Did someone say Jaws?)

What the franchise needs is a kick up the ass. It needs someone to take a risk and do things differently. I don't want to see a rehash of the first, second, third or fourth movie. I want it to be new and interesting. Take it a notch further, not back. I'm sure someone could put a great script together and probably already has. As to whether anyone at the Studio is going to take a risk on it, especially in the current climate, I'm not so sure. Therein lies the irony as this is probably the only thing that will save it and make the Studio bundles of money. There are many directors who would make a fantastic Alien film, not just Cameron and Scott (the latter was also talking about interest in an Alien project just a few months ago). However, if either of those two were permanently attached I think it could be a giant persuading force to the Studio given the clout they must have following the success of both directors' more recent films. Also I cannot see Scott or Cameron doing anything else but pushing the envelope. I'm as much an Alien fan as anyone here so I really hope for good things.

[ambient-whisper]

dunno man. the latest Camerons endeavours have been rather weak.. and that latest titanic thing hes doing looks and sounds bad..
makes me think hes lost it.

[E.Z. Schwartz]

The next Alien movie has to take place on Earth. An alien gets to earth somehow and quickly spreads like a virus. It should be like a war movie. They can't just keep making the same movie with the hallways with the grates on the floor and a bunch of people running away from the aliens. Gets lame after 3 movies like that!

[Shade01]

I always thought there should have been an Aliens movie where we went to their home planet or they came to our planet. What if...

[blindsleeper]

hmmm all these years never liked a single aliens flick... now that they can actually make something look somewhat realistic... i might change my mind...

[malducin]

You do realize that the latest Cameron is an Imax 3D documentary right? I can't say it looks weak, I'll wait and see.

As far as the Alien films, I liked them all. Sure 4 was a bit weak but it wasn't as bad as some stuff that it's out there. If Cameron and/or Scott are involved it would be encouraging, as they have proven track records.

[Airflow]

I can see it now.. "alien5... Homeworld"
we follow a military vessle to the ailen planet of origin, to find out that they were not a spciecies but a weapon, and we meet their creators before destroying the planet, and ripley definatly dies in this one.... infact .. no one survives. :bounce:

the first cannot be touched... hell people were leaving the theatre halfway through the film, with their eyes shut and fingers in their ears, what the last film you saw do that to an audience????:applause:

[beaker]

Originally posted by ambient-whisper
dunno man. the latest Camerons endeavours have been rather weak.. and that latest titanic thing hes doing looks and sounds bad..
makes me think hes lost it.
You should go check it out. It is getting rave reviews. Alot of people are probably angry that he is doing documentaries but hey, he is rich, and this is what he wants to do right now(exploiting his hobbies, playing with new toys engineered just for him). The bismark show he did on Discovery channel was pretty cool too.
http://www.aintitcool.com/display.cgi?id=14944

[E.Z. Schwartz]

I've read a couple of the Aliens books and there is one where people go to the alien planet, and one where they get to ours. They both weren't that good, but the idea is pretty cool. I want to see that other race of alien, the elephant looking one in the first Alien who's ship they discover the eggs on. They could do so much cool stuff with the aliens franchise but for some reason they keep remaking the same movie.

[samartin]

not that I normally watch BLUE PETER, but MR Cameron was on that tonight and was asked what his next upcoming movie was going to be, he did not reveal any information apart from it's going to be 3D...

Also he did mention he was going to be using the camera's what he used in this documentary for the next film... Abyss 2 maybe cos' of the water theme ???

PS. I haven't read the whole thread so I could just be talking out my @ss

[RobertoOrtiz]

Samartin according to what I read Mr. Cameron's team invented what could be called a "Rosetta" camera. This mean that this camera can record to any format.

This means that it can record to the specs of Imax 2d/3d, 35MM Film and video.

I read that the first commercial film, after "Ghosts of the Titanic" that will use this revolutionary technology will be the movie
"Spy Kids 3d".

From what I gather Cameron is pushing HARD the 3d format.

-Roberto

[Supervlieg]

Originally posted by E.Z. Schwartz
I've read a couple of the Aliens books and there is one where people go to the alien planet, and one where they get to ours. They both weren't that good, but the idea is pretty cool. I want to see that other race of alien, the elephant looking one in the first Alien who's ship they discover the eggs on. They could do so much cool stuff with the aliens franchise but for some reason they keep remaking the same movie.

I thought the elephant looking alien was another race that were infected with the alien virus. His chest was burst open, so it would seem like he had a chestburster inside of him. The ship they found was actually not a ship by the alien alien but of a different alien race. Thats what I got out of it

[cycron]

I believe you're referring to the so called "space jockey" race. Check the following sites out; they've got some really cool theories about the race -and how the "alien" species was created :D

http://www.serenadawn.com/Alien-Plug-In-JockeyRace.htm

http://www.angelfire.com/oh2/Thrahn/Theories.html

[TimP]

Fincher hates Alien 3 to!

But its not all his fault, the studio tied his hands and serverly altered his final cut, they thought that the 1st time director didnt know what he was doing!!

The production was also had a budget cut and the studio rebuilt some of the set because they felt that they were to similar to the ones on Terminator 2.

But can anyone still see the genius of Fincher gleaming slightly in the background?

Look hard.

TimP:)

[PokeChop]

Just let Peter Jackson direct the next Alien movie...

[E.Z. Schwartz]

supervlieg that's exactly what it was. I didn't mean to suggest otherwise. They were another alien race who fell victim to the 'nasty aliens'.

[RobertoOrtiz]

Man, James Cameron still talking!

Here is an article from the British Mag "Empire"

http://www.empireonline.co.uk/news/news.asp?4678

and here is a quote from the article:

"Rumours that Cameron may be re-visiting the the Alien franchise have proved to be well-founded; the project is definitely in the pipeline but anyone expecting to see another Aliens will be disappointed to hear that, while Cameron will be involved, he won't appear behind the camera. "We're definitely looking at another Alien film but that wouldn't be something I'd be directing," he told us. "I'm just going to be writing and producing that one.""

-Roberto

[Maximus Groff]

:beer:

Cheers to 'aliens' friends... i love the franchise...

I live in brazil, so YESTERDAY i was able to see "DreamCatcher"...

man those bad, cruel and slick aliens make me think A LOT of what can be pushed for films like these.. that bathroom scene is to remember..

Any one knows about more fan fiction sites with scripts ?



:airguitar

[CENOBITE]

Ahhh... the space Jockey...



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[Boone]

Alien was the second scariest film I've ever seen( the first being "John Carpenter's: The Thing").

Aliens was just gung-ho crap that destroyed the mysterious aura from the first film. SFX was cool. Although it did also have some awesome action scenes!

Alien3 had a beautiful scene where they cremate the bodies of Newt & hicks. A shame it never had the chance to expand further...

Alien Resurection...not sure about this one. Quite good but pretty much on par with Aliens.

The most shocking scene for me is when the monster from "Alien" kills Lambert...I had terrible nightmares for weeks after watching that. Very disturbing scene...

[gmq Spidey]

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:bounce:

[noisewar]

Originally posted by gmq Spidey
wow

http://www.geocities.com/thedus.geo/index.html

:bounce:

Wow thanks for the link! That's exactly the kind of stuff I lvoe about the aliens. I remember reading the original book, and it loaded with how cool the xenomorphs were in biology/physiology... and the after Aliens each movie had the xenos getting progressively weaker.

I want the ORIGINAL xenomorphes back! Back when they were smart, smarter than smart, faster than fast, hungry ugly fast and smart, and when their blood melt through four floors of the Nostromo instead of stinging a bit like it does now.

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