HMC #11: Halloween Monsters: Demon

[TheRazorsEdge]

Servus, oglu!

Nice concept, knowing your sculpting skill, I cant wait to see your first wips!:thumbsup:

[Auctor]

hi oglu,

nice concept so far. I would maybe make the thigh a bit more muscular. Looking forward to your sculpting. Will you stick with the color for the final model? I like it a lot.

greetings

martin

[Cral]

Hi oglu :scream:

I like the style and the coloration of your concept. The design of your creature looks also interesting. There are some little issues of the shapes/proportions but I’m sure you will fix that in your 3D model. Looking forward for updates :bounce:

[Kzin]

nice concept so far, it will be interesting to see your progress while you model a whole character. ;) do you want to texture it too or will you "only" model it?

[oglu]

thanks razor...
auctor yes i will stick with these color...
cral thanks ill try to fix the proportions...
kzin yes textures for this one...


so im started with the head...
pbp in xsi... time 90min...
its only the base for sculpting...

http://www.mc-rolling-skulls.at/oglu/demon_head.gif

[DoctorMonkeyFist]

Nice edge loops! The concept looks nice. You should definitely use some human anatomy references for the top half though....and maybe some goat reference for the bottom half. Can't wait to see the progress,...good luck!

[OneToe]

nice loopwork. like your way of pbp modelling :thumbsup:
i would have stopped adding loops somewhere between get the rest to this stage, but maybe you work the parts successivly out. interesting...

PS: wir könnten auch gleich auf deutsch weitermachen bei der quote hier im thread :scream:

[TheRazorsEdge]

Neat progress, oglu!

OneToe, hat recht! Soviel deutschsprachige auf einem Haufen! lol :surprised

[majid-smiley]

i like the your concept !

[samarcbz]

liked the concept man.. best of luck

[oglu]

thanks guys...
modling nice loops on heads isnt so difficult...
but at bodys... i suck...

here the progress for tonight...
only polymodelling... without subD...
simple rig for the neck and the jaw...


http://www.mc-rolling-skulls.at/oglu/hmc_demon_01.jpg

[DDS]

Topology looks really clean man! Also it´s kinda dense so still a lot of frame for details. Impressive :)

[nielot]

wow topology looks perfect :thumbsup:
great work
looking forward to see detail :bounce:

[RobertoOrtiz]

Heads up

HCR Modeling Halloween ONE MOTH TO GO! (Dateline is November 16th) (http://forums.cgsociety.org/showthread.php?f=208&t=551787)

-R

[oglu]

here we go...

http://www.mc-rolling-skulls.at/oglu/hmc_demon_02.jpg

[TheRazorsEdge]

Sweet progress, oglu!:thumbsup:

The head looks really sweet, as usual. :)

With the topo of the legs, I dont really know what to tell you, as I am still trying to make sense of the anatomy. You seem to have a double heel setup there and I cant really get my head to figure out how exactely that would work with muscle attachments etc!? Other than that I suggest "Ellenberger" for excellent animal anatomy refs.

Cheers!

[oglu]

yes you are right at the moment nothing make sence... ;)
i will try to fix that when the body is done...
maybe i model some new...

[ania]

I would make the knees sharper, sticking out, now it looks like there's no bone under the skin.
apart from that really good.

[oglu]

thanks ania... i will rework the forms/proportions in the sculpting pass...
this is only a rough basemesh...

[TheRazorsEdge]

yes you are right at the moment nothing make sence... ;)
i will try to fix that when the body is done...
maybe i model some new...

A reversed knee setup might work for what you have as the upper heel right now!?

[SeanJM]

Nice work, I really like the topo, looks clean.

[oglu]

some tests on the leg...
http://www.mc-rolling-skulls.at/oglu/hmc_demon_leg_01.jpg


and the progress on the body...
testing and blocking around... (i hate these legs)...
http://www.mc-rolling-skulls.at/oglu/hmc_demon_03.jpg

[TheRazorsEdge]

Oh, that's what you are going for!

It still doesnt make a lot of anatomical sense tough. Now you have a forearm (if I am not completely mistaken that image is of a dogs foreleg), which is attached at what should be the elbow, to what should be the ankle of a lower leg. How about trying a double thigh setup, kinda like a hydraulic "Hebebühne". That might work!

Cheers!

[oglu]

yes its an forarm dogleg... but its not working...
it looks crappy at the moment... i will test some other variations....

[Kzin]

i agree, it does not make sense because it looks "unstable". it could work if you would make the legs longer and thinner and the feets a bit bigger, the area where the creature stands on should be bigger. for your the dog (?) example picture, you cant compare it to your thing, because a dog has 4 legs and its so much more "stable". ;)

[oglu]

thanks for reply... i will try to fix that...
here the last one for tonight...

http://www.mc-rolling-skulls.at/oglu/hmc_demon_04.jpg

[samarcbz]

yeah man,, its commin out cool.. cant wait so see this guy sculpted:thumbsup:

[scrimski]

Make the tighs(Oberschenkel) shorter and the foot longer, more like a horse.

Subscribed.

[Walli]

now the legs look much better, but I also would propose to give more weight to the upper leg.

[oglu]

thanks samarcbz...
scrimski and walli i will give him more upper leg... :)

so the multi tile uvs are final...
normally i do the uvs after sculpting but in this case the mesh wont change so much...

http://www.mc-rolling-skulls.at/oglu/hmc_demon_05.jpg

[Ohlda]

hi Oglu,

"nice" creature - in my view you have to work on the feet much more before touching anything else; I have added photos of tobias moretti as the devil in "Jedermann" - I like his costume very much, and I think a good point about it is the thickness and the length of the legs;
even if i.e. horses have quite thin legs compared to their weight, I still believe, in the case of your model you have to decide whether makeing it really skinny, like only skin, bones and tendons - in this case the actual thickness of the legs would fit but not the length (again: in my view);
I would like better the "moretti"-approach, a quite tall and strong, heavy devil with thick legs, again very long, like suggested in the pictures below

as already pointed out the headmesh is very clean!

nice work! m°


http://www.festspielfreunde.at/gfx/informationen/200305/seite32bb.jpghttp://www.festspielfreunde.at/gfx/informationen/200305/seite32aa.jpghttp://www.moretti.at/gfx/theater/jedermann_teufel_gr.jpg

[samarcbz]

cool man ,, nice work,,
lookin forward for updates

[oglu]

thanks ohlda and samarcbz...
here an update... now i like the feets...

http://www.mc-rolling-skulls.at/oglu/hmc_demon_06.jpg

http://www.mc-rolling-skulls.at/oglu/hmc_demon_07.jpg

[oglu]

so now im posing this guy in xsi...

create piped guide...
adjust the guide...
create rig from guide...
weighting envelop...
posing the char...

http://www.mc-rolling-skulls.at/oglu/demon_rig.gif

[oglu]

mudbox update...


http://www.mc-rolling-skulls.at/oglu/hmc_demon_08.jpg

[ChristianFischer]

really nice demon so far oglu ^^
maybe i would scale up the hands a bit .. other than that your doin a good job on this one. :p
keep it coming :)

[Kzin]

great progress oglu! i really like the feeds and legs now, looks much better. the pose give the character more weight and mass, it looks much "stronger" now. i also like the "flow", i mean how the arm goes over to the hand, looks naturel.

[DDS]

good stuff! I love head and feet man. I think hands are too small tho! Also his back is not wide enough on the posed version, hope you are aware of it.

Keep 'em coming man, I'm really looking forward!

[DoctorMonkeyFist]

that looks great! i have to agree that the hands should be larger. Also it feels like the gesture of the bottom half isn't following through to the top half. good work! Keep it up!

[simonjaap]

aka: he's stiff around the neck area

I really like your model though so far.. great work !

[rasmusW]

hey oglu!

great progress here. think the overall of the character is really good.
just got a few crits/suggestions. i think the joint below the normal knee (not sure of what it's called) could be a tad "stronger". it looks a bit fragile atm.
i think the head looks really good in the last mudbox side view but the front view lacks abit. just not sure what it is, sorry.

ps. sorry for the badly formulated suggestions.

-r

[oglu]

thanks guys for your crits and suggestions... helped me a lot....



here an update...
all sculpting done in mudbox...
only the realtime render is a zbrush screenshot... :D

http://www.mc-rolling-skulls.at/oglu/hmc_demon_09.jpg

[Theht]

he oglu,
nice to see a new char from you...

in my opinion is the torso to long and you pushes some details too far... like the breast...
arms looking also abit weak imo... and the face also abit too long...

also give the ears an asymetrical pose.. they look abit static at the moment

[oglu]

thanks theht...

head still in progress...
http://www.mc-rolling-skulls.at/oglu/hmc_demon_10.jpg

[JensDenker]

hey buddy.
i like your anatomical structure you developed on your model but the pose... ahh... please! looks like there is no weight in the pose.. try to stand in this pose like for 2 seconds and you'll see it hurts... so please change it, i wanna see more weight and maybe a more heroic pose.. otherwise i like it! peace bro

[oglu]

thanks jens... yes i know the pose sucks...
i give transpose a try... :scream:

here an overpaint...
http://www.mc-rolling-skulls.at/oglu/hmc_demon_13.jpg

[Neox]

looking on your concepts i awaited a less human looking guy, which would be a bit more scary, right now he kinda reminds me of CLint Eastwood with fat lips :P
But you've got some very promising forms in there and i overall like it, the only thing i dislike, are the ears, they are not fleshy, not lifelike, the look like extrusions with some random forms on them.

oh and press P when working on this one ;)

[Gephoria]

the ears reminded me of the pigears i fed my dog,

good job overall but the ears look unfinished imo or like something's missing

[ligi]

nice work oglu.
as always your chars are so inspiring.
keep it up

[FistOfGod]

looking nice Oglu. I see you are using xsi :) Pretty cool so far! I think I agree with some of the other comments about the ears but it is looking nice. Keep us posted.

Waylon

[oglu]

details in mudbox...

http://www.mc-rolling-skulls.at/oglu/hmc_demon_11.jpg

details on the head...
http://www.mc-rolling-skulls.at/oglu/hmc_demon_12.jpg

textur and shading test in zbrush... more fine skin details... :D
http://www.mc-rolling-skulls.at/oglu/hmc_demon_14.jpg

[oliveira]

wow! great!!
Alex Oliver

[rasmusW]

hey oglu!

that shaded head looks really good. nice details.

-r

[fx81]

great model over all. some crits, the lower legs look too skinny and weak. the muscle definition look too strong around the bicep and chest area. need more naturat fat, loose skin etc. looking at teh face he looks like an old character but the body does not show that.
over all he might need to look more stronger/menacing. you could widen the neck, give him a slight hunch back etc.

[oglu]

today a xsi viewport turntable... its only the 130k poly version...
my rendering skills are really bad and i hate mental ray... damn...

http://www.mc-rolling-skulls.at/oglu/demon_turn.gif

[Ewald]

Man,thats great modeling!
The front/side shot of the face hull looks phantastic.

[oglu]

thanks ewald...

here we go...
first testrender...
my rendering skills are sucking... :D


http://www.mc-rolling-skulls.at/oglu/hmc_demon_17.jpg

[oglu]

so here my final...
http://www.mc-rolling-skulls.at/oglu/demon_final_a.jpg

http://www.mc-rolling-skulls.at/oglu/demon_final_b.jpg

[XII]

very nice job !
Dont know why but the face reminds me of Marv in Sin city :)

[valentine]

moin oglu,

auch wenn du imho bisher mehr als schwaetzer aufgefallen bist, muss ich sagen, dass deine arbeiten mittlerweile ein erstaunlich hohes niveau erreicht haben!

grats :)

[oglu]

thanks jannis...

als schwätzer... ja ich rede viel wenn der tag lang ist...
kommt daher das hier im umkreis von 200km keine leute sind die irgendwas mit cg machen...
von daher muss ich das inet zutexten...
freut mich aber das ich auch durch meine arbeit auffalle...

[valentine]

good, you didnt took my statement the wrong way. good insofar as i dont have to face death threats by some (german) wonks ;)

regards

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