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Galal
10-08-2007, 10:47 PM
hello guys, this is what i can buy. is it good for modeling, sculpting....and all 3d things ?


processor : Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 2.4GHz Quad Pro 1066MHz 8M CPU

Motherboard : nvidia xfx 680i

RAM : (1GB DDR2 5300 667 Mhz Ram) x4

graphics card : (GeForce 8600gt, ram 512) x2

davijin
10-09-2007, 03:32 AM
everything is good but I would scrap both of those 8600gt cards and get one 8800gts. one 8800gts will run faster at 3d stuff than 2 8600gt because 2 cards in SLI do nothing for cg apps. most likely itll still run faster at most games also and youll probably save some money.

Galal
10-09-2007, 03:35 AM
thanks davijin, can i put 8800gts and 8600gt together ?

davijin
10-09-2007, 04:45 AM
no, for sli to work you have the use the same card. most likely you arent going to need two cards though if you get a 8800gts vs the 8600gt. you may be able to run two different cards in the pci express x16 slots but they would basically be a waist of money. one of the cards would rarely, if at any be doing anything.

2 videocards definatly wont speed up your viewports or anything else over 1 videocard in 3d applications, and even if you setup SLI (or crossfire on ati cards) for gaming usually you dont get much of a boost over having one card to justify the price of another card.

Galal
10-09-2007, 06:47 AM
thanks davijin for directing me .. :thumbsup:

mr Bob
10-09-2007, 07:52 AM
Hey,
I just built a new machine and it kicks 3d ass .... your processor sounds fine Im running the same one except I went for the GOSLACR stepping (http://www.umart.com.au/pro/products_listnew.phtml?id=10&id2=13&&bid=4&sid=25769)

The G0 SLACR versions of the Q6600 are well known for their lower power consumption and high overclocking potential. These steppings (G0) require less voltage to operate at normal frequency, and thus, run cooler at much higher frequencies. If you can spare the cash, definitely get a Q6600 and have a play with overclocking. 3200Mhz should be within anyones reach at 1.30 volts

with 2 gigs of kingston Ram and a Asus Mobo and Linux ...works like a dream

B

Clondike7
10-09-2007, 09:57 PM
-good processor
-good motherboard
-get a 8800gts instead of the 8600 SLI (btw, u need identical cards to run SLI, so u can't run 2 different cards)

Most ppl in the 3D business don't do overclocking but with these Core2Duos its really worth it. Its simple and the results are great. Good luck on ur build.

lots
10-10-2007, 09:03 PM
SLI isn't really worth it. Here are my reasons:

1) You have to use up twice the space in your computer.
2) Its a technology really geared toward games.
3) If you run a multi display setup, its pointless, as SLI is designed to run multiple cards on ONE display, not multiple displays on multiple cards (which is possible without SLI)
4) The performance return is not very high. Basically what I mean is two Geforce 8800GTS 640MB cards in SLI is not twice as fast as a single card. Instead you will most likely (in games) get around 1.5 times the speed.
5) The cost for performance gained is pretty poor. You pay twice as much for less than double the performance.
6) The power requirements are high
7) SLI is only worth it on the top end card (where no single card is faster than it). If you buy anything less, getting the card that is higher up will net you more performance/$. An 8800GTS is going to be roughly twice as fast as SLI 8600s...
8) There is potential for more problems from SLI, it is a more complex system after all. A single card tends to be more reliable...

I'm sure I can come up with more :) But those are just some reasons why I don't think SLI is worth it :P

Galal
10-11-2007, 12:36 AM
i thank you guys for realy helping me.

is there a very big difference between gts and gtx ?
i have a budget problem.

lots
10-11-2007, 12:54 PM
Its not huge, but it is noticable. The GTX will of course be faster. But Nvidia's top end cards come with a premium, so in actuality you get more bang for your buck going with the GTS.

Carina
10-11-2007, 04:58 PM
*pets her 8800 GTX*

Doubt I would spend the cash on it for my home machine though.. Given the price difference, I'd definitely say the GTS is the better choice unless you have money you're just dying to spend.

BoostAbuse
10-11-2007, 06:32 PM
Knock off the SLI configuration and put the money in faster RAM, 667mhz isn't all that great these days seeing as how cheap DDR2 6400 800mhz is. You'll also feel a bit more comfortable for another year with the 6400 ram seeing as DDR3 is in its first implementation and is still priced high.

If you have the money, it's about an extra $100 here for a GTX over a GTS ($435 for a BFG 8800 GTS 640mb OC2 vs $539 for a BFG 8800 GTX OC) and you'll be set for a while again as well. I don't need to go over all the SLI stuff but as everyone else has said, it's a waste for 3D work and given the fact that the next generation (RV670 ATI and G92 Nvidia) are beginning to lean towards putting two GPU's on a single card (late january for nvidia they say, early february for ati).

Also, invest in a good case and cooling... I run a Q6600 and they can get quite hot under load.

A suggestion of sorts for a budget conscious system:

Asus P5K board
Intel Q6600 Quad Core
Patriot DDR2 6400 800mhz 5-5-5-12 (4x1gb) {DO NOT USE OCZ RAM WITH NEW ASUS BOARDS}
8800GTS 640mb / 8800 GTX

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