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Solesurvivor
04-08-2003, 01:10 PM
okay, here's the problem

when I try to skin my model , i get something like the picture below, real ugly.
But when I try it on a simple box with a couple of bones in it, i don't have the slightest problems..

What could be the cause of this error?

http://users.pandora.be/dig_ren/problem.jpg
EricChadwick
04-08-2003, 02:18 PM
Your model is probably very small. Try rescaling it (use the Utility "Rescale World Units")
Solesurvivor
04-08-2003, 02:33 PM
I wish it were that easy, it was the first thing that jumped to my mind, but it didn't help :cry:

any other suggestions? normals, holes in the model?
EricChadwick
04-08-2003, 02:34 PM
Reset Xform, Collapse, re-apply Skin modifier.
Solesurvivor
04-08-2003, 02:46 PM
no avail :cry:

done your suggestions, now I get this

http://users.pandora.be/dig_ren/voila.jpg


max is really starting to annoy me:hmm: :annoyed:
Smay
04-08-2003, 02:49 PM
Had this problem once, too :/
Luckily you can still adjust the envelopes via Keyboard etc. but itīs very annoying.
LFShade
04-08-2003, 02:50 PM
It looks like the scaling problem is in the bones, not the mesh. Try resetting the scale on the bones and see what happens.
EricChadwick
04-08-2003, 02:52 PM
Yeah, bone scale.

If that doesn't do it, or even if it does, go and get Grant Adams skin scripts. He lets you scale multiple envelopes at the same time. Very helpful. Three skin scripts there.

http://members.optushome.com.au/ghra/scripts.htm
Solesurvivor
04-08-2003, 02:57 PM
problem is, when I scale the envelopes in one direction, that direction is correct, but another direction is way too small then

gonna check those scripts asap

thnx for the help guys
Solesurvivor
04-08-2003, 03:08 PM
a more comprehensable screenshot



http://users.pandora.be/dig_ren/pain.jpg
EricChadwick
04-08-2003, 03:13 PM
LFShade has the right idea I think. Check your bones for non-uniform scale.

A quick way I check bones for non-u scale is by using the FBX exporter. It pops up an error telling me which bones are bad.
Solesurvivor
04-08-2003, 05:11 PM
thank god for backups. I tried it on one of my older files, the ones which didn't have IK in it, and it worked flawlessly. Man, that was such a relief...


Anyhow, thnx for the help you guys
Solesurvivor
04-09-2003, 05:54 PM
okay, can't find the solution to this problem, max corrupted all of my backups, I put my file online , if someone could take a look at it, it would be really appreciated.

zip file here (http://users.pandora.be/dig_ren/stitch.zip)
EricChadwick
04-09-2003, 06:00 PM
Reset Xform, Collapse, add Skin modifier.

Hmmm, thought I heard this somewhere before. :)

[edit] Oops, I realise I didn't install your Attribute script. That may be what's causing the problem. Without it, the Reset Xform works fine.
Solesurvivor
04-09-2003, 06:05 PM
and after you have done that, the envelops work flawlessly?

[edit] thank you thank you thank you thank you thank you thank you

you saved my day, thank you very much
:bowdown::bowdown::bowdown:
EricChadwick
04-09-2003, 06:06 PM
Yep.

Using 3ds max 5.1


[edit] Ummm, I mean I never installed your .ms but I was able to Reset Xform and the new Skin's envelopes intialized fine.
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