View Full Version : Visual effects: 'Death by car' and 'transformation'
ramis 04-07-2003, 10:24 PM First time I do vfx, just 2 days in the making
"Last words" and "Transformer"
See them at http://personales.ya.com/lopezdau/video_en.html
comments welcome
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aazimkhan
04-07-2003, 10:37 PM
Haha...awesome. Nice work.
The transformation is fine....
but the car crash is cool . Nice work.
Where do u do the blue screen stuff?...at home?
If its a personal project, let us know how u did it.
The car does look a bit CG...i think the motion blur is a bit off.
Nice work. :thumbsup:
E.Z. Schwartz
04-07-2003, 10:40 PM
I like em! I watched the car one a bunch of times and it looked like the cars that were driving were just a flat graphic panned past the screen, like the perspective didn't change. I didn't watch it in slow motion, but I thought that was noticable at full speed. It took me a bunch of viewings before I realized the two cars were the same, but that might be more noticable to people who don't catogorize cars by color. Good job :thumbsup:
ramis
04-07-2003, 10:59 PM
thanx for the replies guys! lets see:
First, the car isn't a flat image nor CG, it's real footage filmed in the same location as all the clip so it should appear to be real :)
And there is no blue screen stuff, everything masked with combustion over real images to make the trick
:bounce:
regards!
coupon
04-07-2003, 11:01 PM
ouch, that yellow on your page hurts, but nice work:thumbsup: the 2 cars being the same with adjusted colour stands out though.
aenema
04-07-2003, 11:25 PM
hah, these are great. I especially liked the car crash one, the transformation looked awesome too :thumbsup: :bounce:
iBlue
04-08-2003, 12:11 AM
wow thats cool :beer:
Jeebus
04-08-2003, 12:29 AM
I think that the acting is what surprised me the most... It was actually pretty good. I didn't expect it I guess.
Great job on everything!
DFGFX
04-08-2003, 12:42 AM
the transformer one looks like something outta a movie.
the second one is just cool!
Gj Man!
caffeineman
04-08-2003, 12:57 AM
If you made tutorials on this stuff that would be amazing!
LordShaitan
04-08-2003, 01:09 AM
Looks good, the only thing that i notced was when the girl screamed, the sound was to "in studio" vs how the guy sounded. Other then that, some nice stuff.
Tom N.
04-08-2003, 01:13 AM
hmm i downloaded it and i can only view the very first frame, but i can still hear the sound playing... no one had this problem? do i need a codec or somethin...? i really wanna see!
-Tom N.
facial
04-08-2003, 02:17 AM
Looks cool. Well done/ :bounce:
Tellerve
04-08-2003, 03:21 AM
You say those cars are real? And here I thought they were fake. Either way they didn't look all that great in my opinion, although the transition from actor to cg actor was pretty good. I also agree with LordShaitan that the scream was off.
The transformation was neat though, so props to you :)
Tellerve
Tuqui-tuqui
04-08-2003, 03:25 AM
How weird... I'm also getting the same problem as Tom N.
Ramis, besides DiVx, do I need any other plug-ins? I downloaded at home and at school, but both simply played the Intro and the First frame of the shot... :annoyed:
Savage_Henry
04-08-2003, 03:44 AM
Wow!
The transformation clip was great:thumbsup:
High class work.
The car crash one has slight problems (previously mentioned) but its still fun to watch.
tutorial would be much appreciated!!
Cynical_Saint
04-08-2003, 03:47 AM
A tutorial would be awesome, I see either 3 or 4 plates in "Last words" am I right? Transformation obviously only needs 2 plates.
Iysun
04-08-2003, 05:56 AM
gj man well done:bounce:
luima
04-08-2003, 06:14 AM
great work!! tutorial??? (for those who can not see the clip, download the latest divx codec ;) )
xynaria
04-08-2003, 06:31 AM
I really like the touch that the girl runs off with the case....really made it for me. :)
Couple of points...
First off, to those of you only seeing the first frame - if you've got DivX 5.02 installed, the video will only play for a couple of seconds before pausing, but audio will continue - would probably fix things if you download DivX 5.03 from http://www.divx.com
With transformer, the background doesn't quite work for me... As his head gets to full size, there is suddenly some kind of wipe where we see the shadows on the back wall appear. Also, as he is moving, there is a noticable line above his left shoulder (where, I assume, it changes from foreground plate to background)
Did you mask him out manually? If so, I'd suggest trying it with a difference key - might give better results on the shoulder....
That said, very nice work!
FabioMSilva
04-08-2003, 07:38 AM
i got the same problem from both movie files on yer website
RiotManZ
04-08-2003, 08:44 AM
Same problem: first frame nothing more.
Using DivX 5.02
any suggestions?:annoyed:
I updated DivX and I have to say: cooooooool
These two clips rock!! :applause:
DangerousLlama
04-08-2003, 08:52 AM
:) hahaha love ur animations...
*take the money and run*
gaggle
04-08-2003, 09:16 AM
Originally posted by RiotManZ
Same problem: first frame nothing more.
Using DivX 5.02
any suggestions?:annoyed:
As mentioned, update to DivX 5.03 to cure that right up.
Very nice clips btw, I too thought the cars looked fake, but it's the crash one I like the best just the same. Made me laugh with that ending :)
GrafOrlok
04-08-2003, 09:48 AM
Great work!
I think the first car looks like a color-corrected version of the blue car... It's all yellow, and it looks like the same car. I don't mind though, you did this in a very short time so, hats off.
One thing though, when the car hits you see every step in his "flight". I would add a little (more) motion blur. That would really make it stick.
For you who have DivX problems. You will probably have to uninstall earlier versions of the codec. Then install the latest DivX 5.03 found at http://www.divx.com
:beer:
Eyemagic
04-08-2003, 10:00 AM
Muy bueno Ramiro!!! Good,good!!!
La única pega que te pongo es que los coches que te atropellan no se reflejan en los que están aparcados, por lo demás genial, sobre todo para ser la primera vez.
:applause: :applause:
nalhcal
04-08-2003, 10:18 AM
Wow, last words looks very good. :bounce:
Laughed my ass off on Last Words! :bounce:
Tutorial? Pretty, pretty pleeeeeeze!!
ramis
04-08-2003, 01:44 PM
Thanx for all the comments guys!
There are some 'known issues' I saw before posting the videos, but because of problems with the footage or no time I wasn't able to polish them: The yellow car is just shit, motion blur on the model killed by the car should be higher, reflections of the cars in the parked cars, the background in 'transformer'.....
I wanted to make an effect that works well the first time you watch it, even the second or third time can still work good then if you watch it lots of times the problems appears of course :)
About a tutorial, is hard because it should be a tutorial covering lots of things like modeling, texturing, animation or combustion and how it works...
regards and thanx again!!
ramiro
ramis
04-08-2003, 01:47 PM
Oh I forgot, I used two shots for last words and one shot for transformer:
In 'last words' one with all the acting and other with the car passing by. And in 'transformer' only the shot with me doing the strange movements :)
regards
Prototype3X
04-08-2003, 01:52 PM
WOW thats some good work!
No tutorial? :cry:
But I am still greedy to find out how it worked...
How about a short, "I used used this software to achieve this and then combined it with that, masked, blurred.." and so on.. just to give the beginners (like me) an idea of the workflow so we can think about it and maybe do it ourselves.
Just a few lines, pleeeeeze!
TANGOMAN
04-09-2003, 12:26 PM
Owh! That´s so good man,great effects:thumbsup: ,did you modell yourself in 3d or something? and the other effect is kinda the effect of the 5th Element of the monsters,well keep doing this stunning stuff!!:bounce:
1saludin
Sherif.Nagib
04-09-2003, 09:51 PM
I got transformer only, Downloading "Last words" right now.
There are too many ways to the "transformer"... did you do the wrapping & folding frame by frame using photoshop (also to get a good mask) , or did you do it in combustion ??.. a full tutorial would be too much to ask for but at least you could gave us some hints on the concept itself.. it doesn't take explaning animation, modeling, or even transformation geometry :)
stephen2002
04-09-2003, 10:12 PM
hahaha, those two are good. Coulda done without the profanity in the car scene. The movements (especially with the car crash) look very fake...but it is funny anyway :D
ramis
04-10-2003, 02:01 PM
Hi guys, I will do an overall explaination of the process I did for both videos :)
For 'transformer' I filmed myself doing the movements (but with my original head, of course). Then I modeled and textured a 3D version of my head, and animated it with the same movements I did in the footage. Then, with the head animated but without deformation, I scaled the bone for the head from zero size to the 100% to make the growing effect. Then I applied a noise modifier to make the 'rubber' effect, and some displace modifiers to do some details. All the 3D in max, of course. Then I illuminated it like the real face and rendered it. With it I went to combustion and animated a mask around the head of the video to erase it, and put the 3D head behind this layer. And behind all, an image of the bricks of the background :) Everything with more detail, obviously :D
For 'last words' the filmed part is all the acting of the scene in one shot and the car passing by in other. Then, a 3D version of the body was modeled and textured to use as crash test dummy. Back to combustion, I composed the first car (same as second but with a shitty color correction) over the footage (without showing the reflection in the other cars because of problems with the camera tripod, I will try to fix it). Once I had the first car, the second one was composed, with the original colors. From the frame the car should impact with the body to the end of the video I had to remove the real body from the footage so I created a fixed image of the background (with the second actor) and applied an animated mask to it to put over the guy, and respecting the real box after the impact. With this, back again to max to animate the 3D body, I did the animation of the body to make an spectacular accident (as any film specialist :) ) and the box was animated to match the real one in the last rendered frame. After the render back to combustion to compose the rendered guy over the video, and that's it :buttrock:
Despite reading it the effect sounds easy to achieve, the process have lots of minor details to get rid off, and that's the entertaining part of the work :drool:
Best regards
Thanks Ramis!
My drooo:drool: ling for information has stopped now :beer:
Cheers, Peter
Screwball
04-10-2003, 05:47 PM
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Sherif.Nagib
04-13-2003, 08:55 AM
Woo,, man i guess that was pretty hard..harder than i thought actually.. did you have to model precisly ??. anyway thank you for your answers & it will be extreme generosity of you to show us some pics of these models.
Sherif.Nagib
04-14-2003, 01:56 PM
:up:
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