AztcFireflowers Figure Work

[Mu]

Oh, I am so glad you're back here!

*does a happiness welcome dance*

*subscribes*

:D

[anandpg]

Hey Esmeralda!! Great to see you back!!:bounce:

[Womball]

I miss the older work, but this is good. Didn't know you had a back up version of the thread.

[SpiritDreamer]

HEY ...Aztec Fire Flower..:)

Same goes for me,...GREAT TO SEE YOU BACK ...:thumbsup: Your work is always an inspiration...and is just a real pleasure to see, FOR THESE EYES ANYWAY :)
TAKE CARE
Glenn

[NR43]

Ok, it's been quite a while since I said it but... woohoo!

Welcome back!

[AztcFireFlower]

My dear CG pals, I do miss your input.
Thank you for the warm welcome back. :)
Mu Basking in your kind dance.:scream:
anandpj Thanks! Your sig statement rings so true at this time in my life.
Womball Aaaaww, I do want to show how my skills have changed, hopefully improved, better skill level. With that aim, I'll re-post some of the older work only to show the progress I've made since my first appearance here.
Hi SpiritDreamer Wouldn't be the same without your support in this here sketchbook. Thanks always for visiting.
Johan So great to feel I belong to this 'lil community of talented artists. Thank you for the welcome.

Okay, I am going to post a few of the older life drawings long poses and quick-sketches, an activity which I am particularly partial to.

I myself am curious to scroll through the old to newer stuff and see how I've incorporated the latest advice from the many talented teachers I've the privilege to study under. Will expand more when I get to post the newer figure studies.

More than 10 years ago, Times i've felt I drew better then than I do now:
http://www.image-upload.net/files/4068/Life%20Studies/Warner%20bros%20Wrkshp.jpg
http://www.image-upload.net/files/4068/Life%20Studies/A%20Male%20Study.jpg

About 5-6 years ago
http://www.image-upload.net/files/4068/Life%20Studies/Forrest%20copy.jpg
http://www.image-upload.net/files/4068/Life%20Studies/Aishlee1.jpg
http://www.image-upload.net/files/4068/Life%20Studies/Sofia2%20copy%20copy.jpg
http://www.image-upload.net/files/4068/Life%20Studies/OlderLady.jpg
http://www.image-upload.net/files/4068/Life%20Studies/Big%20Lady.jpg

[AztcFireFlower]

Portraits around this period also:
This first one is an example of having just gained more control in my drawings, but now I look at it and it's looking flat in terms of calligraphy. Pencil stroke are there, but don't add that flair of personality to the drawing, THAT"S what I'm working towards! Flair and fresh ease of pencil stroke. Never give up...........
http://www.image-upload.net/files/4068/Portraits/older%20man%20portrait.jpgCharcoal
These are better in terms of execution:
http://www.image-upload.net/files/4068/Portraits/Max.jpg
http://www.image-upload.net/files/4068/Portraits/John.jpg
This is one of my favorites, now lost forever, when the school it hung in closed down.:sad:
http://www.image-upload.net/files/4068/Portraits/Sam%20copy.jpg
http://www.image-upload.net/files/4068/Portraits/YoungManDSC02449.jpg
http://www.image-upload.net/files/4068/Portraits/Adi.jpg

This is my all time favorite Portrait. I think this is the pinnacle of all the experience I had in that period. First time I was able to trudge along on my own with minute input from my teacher Mark Westermoe at that time:
http://www.image-upload.net/files/4068/Portraits/elizabeth%20copy.jpg

More recent, about 3 years ago:
This one was completed in Charles Hu's class a student of Steve Huston.
2 day study, with photo help for homework.
http://www.image-upload.net/files/4068/Portraits/Charles%20with%20Skull%20copy.jpg

[lildragon]

Wow, incredible works here, welcome! I love your portraits. Very inspiring stuff

take care,

~t

[-voraz-]

Hi, fantastic work, great rendering.
cheers

[Womball]

I think you had a fantastic style to begin with. Although if you really want to challenge yourself, I think you could try painting figures with a sumi brush and ink. Or with a caligraphy fountain pen. I think you could improve in line weight, but your still leagues ahead of me. Yoshitaka Amano is someone you might want to check out, and Don Hertzfeld. I think a lot can be done with just a well controlled line. Also the drawings are a bit too tight, if you wanted to have a crit on them. I think you should experiment with a less rendered look, like your 10 year old woman image, that's fantastic. A lot is done with little and much thought.

http://www.amazon.com/Drawing-Human-Anatomy-Giovanni-Civardi/dp/0289800897/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1/103-2136530-4950267?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1190835815&sr=1-1

I have been copying studies from this book the last month, you can google his work under Giovanni Civardi. HIs style reminds me of yours, just its more based on crosshatching. The asian man seems to be more crosshatched so, I thought you might be interested.

[AztcFireFlower]

This day, October 16th, my father passed into eternal sleep.

I miss my pop very much, but I'm glad he is now at peace.

[ForzaInter]

Oh, i was just posting for Glen Gangus and browsed in your thread... I'm sorry to hear that...

No more words, please accept my condolences...

[anandpg]

My deepest condolences, Esmeralda.

[NR43]

Esmeralda,
So sorry for your loss.
The good memories will always live

Courage,
Johan

[SpiritDreamer]

Esmeralda ...VERY SORRY to hear about your FATHER and your loss

HOPE his SPIRIT finds PEACE in it's new journy, and yours finds comfort in knowing that it will.
TAKE CARE
Glenn

[Mu]

Esmeralda,

my heartfelt condolences. The longer the death of my mother lies behind me the more I come to realize that the imprints on our lives the ones who we loved left will always be with us.
This is something you won't lose.

love,
Murat

[Rebeccak]

We're all deeply sorry for the news - I know that things have been so rough for you and I hope for a brighter path ahead.

Best,

-R

[Intervain]

My condolences Esmeralda! So sad!

[AztcFireFlower]

Thanks to all who offered kind words and thoughts. I do miss my father very much, but, I know there will be a time to remember his love without pain. For now, I will continue forward with my art journey as this loss is dealt with.

So here are some 2 to 3 minute sketches. Am working on simple shapes and am trying to create more flow and fluidity of rythyms AAAACK! Not easy! My tendency is to construct, hence the angles.
http://www.fileden.com/files/2006/7/12/125726/2min.jpghttp://www.fileden.com/files/2006/7/12/125726/3min-1.jpg

http://www.fileden.com/files/2006/7/12/125726/2min%20back.jpghttp://www.fileden.com/files/2006/7/12/125726/3min-2.jpg
http://www.fileden.com/files/2006/7/12/125726/DSC03167%20copy.jpg (http://www.fileden.com)


(http://www.fileden.com)

[AztcFireFlower]

Some 5 minute sketches. Some were done emphasizing values, which I find most intriguing.http://www.fileden.com/files/2006/7/12/125726/DSC03185%20copy.jpg
http://www.fileden.com/files/2006/7/12/125726/DSC03186%20copy.jpg
http://www.fileden.com/files/2006/7/12/125726/DSC03159%20copy.jpg
http://www.fileden.com/files/2006/7/12/125726/DSC03172%20copy.jpg
http://www.fileden.com/files/2006/7/12/125726/DSC03176%20copy.jpghttp://www.fileden.com/files/2006/7/12/125726/5min1%20copy.jpg
http://www.fileden.com/files/2006/7/12/125726/DSC03158%20copy.jpg
http://www.fileden.com/files/2006/7/12/125726/DSC03160%20copy.jpg

[AztcFireFlower]

More 5 minutes.

http://www.fileden.com/files/2006/7/12/125726/DSC03165%20copy.jpg
http://www.fileden.com/files/2006/7/12/125726/DSC03166%20copy.jpg
http://www.fileden.com/files/2006/7/12/125726/5min%20Torso.jpg
http://www.fileden.com/files/2006/7/12/125726/DSC03171%20copy.jpg
http://www.fileden.com/files/2006/7/12/125726/DSC03175%20copy.jpg
http://www.fileden.com/files/2006/7/12/125726/5min%202%20copy.jpg

[anandpg]

OMG!!! :drool::drool::drool::drool::drool:...!!

[Eiki]

this is incredible! :eek:
i always wonder how you make those line quality...which medium you use

[kary]

Inspirationally good sketches there, you nail down a ton of communication with your 5 minute sketches.

[ForzaInter]

:eek: I wish i could draw so fast and nice at the same time! :bounce: Are these from imagination or did you use reference?

Keep up the good work! :thumbsup:

Dionysis

[AztcFireFlower]

anandpg Thank you for always visiting and your kind words of sympathy. :)
BapKe Thanks. I use charcoal pencils exclusively. Medium to medium hard are easier to handle for me. And I haven'y weaned myself off of newsprint just yet.
kary Thank you. There is so much to filter out when doing QS. I think that is the challenge that I enjoy so much.
Forzalnter It's all just mileage. These are all drawn from a live model.

Here are some more 5 min. sketches with emphasis on value.

http://www.fileden.com/files/2006/7/12/125726/vDSC03189%20copy.jpg
http://www.fileden.com/files/2006/7/12/125726/vDSC03181%20copy.jpg
http://www.fileden.com/files/2006/7/12/125726/vDSC03182%20copy.jpg
http://www.fileden.com/files/2006/7/12/125726/vDSC03184%20copy.jpg
http://www.fileden.com/files/2006/7/12/125726/vDSC03188%20copy.jpg

[AztcFireFlower]

Some longer studies
http://www.fileden.com/files/2006/7/12/125726/vDSC03191%20copy.jpg
http://www.fileden.com/files/2006/7/12/125726/vDSC03155%20copy.jpg
http://www.fileden.com/files/2006/7/12/125726/Male%20side%20view-chair.jpg
http://www.fileden.com/files/2006/7/12/125726/Male%20Side.jpg

[NR43]

Tremendous updates Esmeralda!
Truly impressive and very expiring.

I really like your "grisaille" approach those last quick ones...

Thanks for sharing!

[AztcFireFlower]

Hey Johan,
Thank you. It's become an exploration of describing depth with values and edges. I've put construction emphasis on hold until my figures loosen up a bit. Always the challenge is enjoyable.

A mix of 5 minutes and longer. I do love consructing ,tho....

http://www.fileden.com/files/2006/7/12/125726/QS-1.jpg
http://www.fileden.com/files/2006/7/12/125726/QS-3crossLeg.jpg
http://www.fileden.com/files/2006/7/12/125726/QS-4Value1.jpg
http://www.fileden.com/files/2006/7/12/125726/QS-5holdLeg.jpg
http://www.fileden.com/files/2006/7/12/125726/QS-6Value.jpg
http://www.fileden.com/files/2006/7/12/125726/QS-PartialGroup.jpg
http://www.fileden.com/files/2006/7/12/125726/LongPose-On%20ArtHorse.jpg
http://www.fileden.com/files/2006/7/12/125726/Melissa.jpg

[rdsarna]

wow!
such elegant drawings! great values....love your style of drawing......

[Womball]

I'm sorry for your loss. :-(

[System404]

I'm really impressed and inspired by your thread. Awesome life drawings!

[knaidu1977]

Hi Esmeralda!
Since i am not frequent visitor I never knew you existed until anandPG introduced me to your thread. Awesome work. Sorry about your father. Will stay glued for your further updates. Once again great work:thumbsup:

[CyborgJA]

Living with the memories of a great dad and missing him all the days and nights is really hard and soul-breaking however when I really feel blue I always think to the love he gave me and what he did for me and this thing gives me all the energy I need.

You are is inspiring, you really are a charcoal-maestra, please, keep updated this thread !

[AztcFireFlower]

rdsarna Thank you for your visit.
Womball Thank you.
System404 Thank you.
knaudu1977 Thank you. Hope to stay consistent with the updates as that will mean I am staying consistent with studying.:)
Serena Your kind words I've taken to heart. Thank you.

Here are a few more 5 minutes. Construction is foremost, but now my efforts are to add fluidity and grace while maintaining solidity.


http://www.fileden.com/files/2006/7/12/125726/3BigGirls.jpg
http://www.fileden.com/files/2006/7/12/125726/BgGrlTwistback.jpg
http://www.fileden.com/files/2006/7/12/125726/BigGirlstanding.jpg
http://www.fileden.com/files/2006/7/12/125726/BigGirlStng.JPG
http://www.fileden.com/files/2006/7/12/125726/ReclineBigGirl.jpg
http://www.fileden.com/files/2006/7/12/125726/DSC03219.JPG
http://www.fileden.com/files/2006/7/12/125726/DSC03223.JPG

[AztcFireFlower]

More 5 minutes plus, quiks
http://www.fileden.com/files/2006/7/12/125726/QS-3fem.jpg
http://www.fileden.com/files/2006/7/12/125726/QS-2.jpg
http://www.fileden.com/files/2006/7/12/125726/DSC03224.JPG


This set, I was struggling with a soft pencil that was not conducive to precise control.
My strokes were much rougher, by necessity and frustration.
Why not chuck the offending twig?......'cause I'm cheap.
Plus, it changes the approach and keeps you on your toes.:D

http://www.fileden.com/files/2006/7/12/125726/Males.JPG
http://www.fileden.com/files/2006/7/12/125726/Male%20Back%20Cross.JPG
http://www.fileden.com/files/2006/7/12/125726/MaleRough.JPG

[-voraz-]

great quick studies.
What I love more about your work is how you combine so well really smooth surfaces with strong lines and shadows.
I would love to see other work from you besides pencil figure studies, I think it should be very good too.
bye

[Rebeccak]

I like the last set the best. :) Have you seen the Zuccarro show at the Getty? There are some beautiful drawings on display there. Definitely check it out when you get the chance! Hope you are well.

-R

[SpiritDreamer]

Hi...AZTEC FIRE FLOWER..:)

Always a real pleasure viewing your thread..Great eye and skill at work..:)
I was just thinking, that if you are going for a more fluid approach,..you might try sitting in a park, mall, or wherever there is a mainstream of people passing by,..and draw them..:) ...This approch was taught to me by a great illustrator named Bill Oakes..he illustrated the Nixon Watergate courtroom hearings, and a bunch of other stuff..He just passed away last year.
But anyway, his approach to drawing was a very fluid one,...his pencil, or whatever medium he chose to work with, would never leave the surface that he was working on, until what he was working on was captured and done...:)
He used to take us down into the busy subway stations, bus stations ect. and have us draw the people going about in their rushed ways...No time for hesatation..after awhile your brain and vision adapts to the motion, and your drawings become, spontanious, fluid, and full of motion,..and accuracy, depending on how much you know your anatomy, which is by far, not a problem in your case..:)
ANYWAY, just thought it worth mentioning this approach to you...Sometimes, it is just a good idea to get out of your comfort zone, when going for something different and new to you.
Challenge is a good thing, and usually leads to good things..:)
Keep posting, and I hope all is well with you and yours, out your way..:thumbsup:
TAKE CARE
Glenn

[thek]

Love these to bits - they're just so good - I've just spent the last 10 minutes staring at them.

Would love to see you attempt what Glenn said, seeing your beautiful style applied to scenes of everyday life would be really interesting!

[AztcFireFlower]

voraz Thank you. Lately, I'm putting myself through basic training in drawing skills. The charcoal studies help reinforce the process, BUT, I will definitely continue exploring other media, right now its a bit of oils.
Hey Rebecca No, haven't cruised by the Getty, but checked it out online. Expressive line work to be studied.
Glenn Thank you for your viewpoint and ideas. You are right. I am ina sort of comfort zone. Partly as a cocoon against confidence killers in my art and in my life. But, you can't advance or progress without risk. It's good to try different things. Experiments often bring about key skills.
Thank you for your words and thoughts. I'm hanging in there.
thek Hi, and thank you for your visit. Am settling into a routine where I do certain exercises and master copies of apporaches I like. Never really tried to draw people on he fly. Will be good for me, I'm sure.

Some new QS's. Around the range of
5 mins.
http://www.fileden.com/files/2006/7/12/125726/QSGirl1.jpg
http://www.fileden.com/files/2006/7/12/125726/QSGirl2.jpg
http://www.fileden.com/files/2006/7/12/125726/QSGirl3.jpg
http://www.fileden.com/files/2006/7/12/125726/QS%20Back.jpg

[Mu]

I am ina sort of comfort zone.

However, I would like to point out that I would be unbearably full of myself and probably kissing my mirror self each day if I happened to be in a comfort zone that produces such awesomeness...:scream:

:bowdown:

[AztcFireFlower]

Hey Mu, always so kind in your thoughts. What kills me is seeing kids that weren't even born yet, currently with mad skills beyond my exprience! Well, what can ya do. Hope that this time I may complete my goals without anymore lifes hard punches for awhile.
Not wanting to sound wishy washy, just a little down with my situation. It will pass.:)

Hhhmmmm, I realize I have to advance again. Gotten too comfortable within my skill level.....considering where my next instruction is coming from. I'll always train the traditional skills, while trying to enter the field of character design. Something that's always fascinated me. I'll also keep myself open to the gallery and perhaps portrait commission path as I progress in experience. Am rather frustrated and depressed with my circumstances, but I know that this is the norm, gotta stick it out.........just not getting any younger.
:sad::eek::scream:
Anyway, these are some 5min. studies.
http://www.fileden.com/files/2006/7/12/125726/QSSleepingForrest.jpg
http://www.fileden.com/files/2006/7/12/125726/QS%203Forrest.jpg
http://www.fileden.com/files/2006/7/12/125726/QSForrestTorso.jpg
http://www.fileden.com/files/2006/7/12/125726/BrantBack.jpg

[AztcFireFlower]

Some more.........about 10-20min.

http://www.fileden.com/files/2006/7/12/125726/Brant%20onSide.jpg
http://www.fileden.com/files/2006/7/12/125726/Brant3quarter.jpg
http://www.fileden.com/files/2006/7/12/125726/BrantFront.jpg
http://www.fileden.com/files/2006/7/12/125726/Head%20Studies.jpg

[NR43]

Thanks Esmeralda

It's ironically perhaps that you are still able to boost other people's confidence while time/life is playing hard ball with you. I admire your spirit and determination.

and thanks for sharing these last drawings... they are amazing

Take good care and have a merry merry Christmas
*hugs*

[anandpg]

Hey Esmeralda!!...
:eek: Oh, what shall I say???.. well, thanks for inspiring, as always!!:bounce:... Hope you are well.. and wish you happy holidays!! :)

[Rebeccak]

Nice to have seen you at the Gnomon Workshop, these latest studies are beautiful as usual. :)

[AztcFireFlower]

Johan I appreciate your kind thoughts. I know this will pass. Alot of changes in my life happened so quickly, I need to be on top of it all. Sometimes I am just tired and want a few things to work oout for myself. I know that all the things we want we get by sweat. I think, I just need a breather and then I can jump right back in. Your support is taken to heart.
anandpg Hey Mr. amazing ZSculpter.
Likewise.
Hey Miss Becca Yeah, I thought I might see you there. Was alot of good information. Always love having you check in here. :)

A couple of value studies in oil. Decided to go a semester of black and white monchromes to really practice and understand value and edges. May repeat this again before going to a 4 color pallette.
http://www.fileden.com/files/2006/7/12/125726/b-wForrestWeb.jpg
http://www.fileden.com/files/2006/7/12/125726/b-wFemaleweb.jpg
http://www.fileden.com/files/2006/7/12/125726/b-wMaleWeb.jpg
http://www.fileden.com/files/2006/7/12/125726/b-w%20MaleWeb.jpg
http://www.fileden.com/files/2006/7/12/125726/MichaelWood07.JPG

[AztcFireFlower]

Some more Qsketches. Focusing on gesture while keeping the construction in there. http://www.fileden.com/files/2006/7/12/125726/Trace07web.jpg
http://www.fileden.com/files/2006/7/12/125726/DSC03253.JPG
http://www.fileden.com/files/2006/7/12/125726/Trace3.jpg
http://www.fileden.com/files/2006/7/12/125726/Trace2.jpg

[Gord-MacDonald]

Beautiful work. :)

Gord

[anandpg]

Oh, nothing.... just... WOW!!:eek::eek::eek:

[SpiritDreamer]

Hi ...Esmeralda..:)

Just stopping by to get a good dose of INSIRATION..:)
and of course to say ..MERRY CHRISTMAS,...AND I HOPE YOU HAVE A GREAT, GREAT, GREAT ..NEW YEAR..:thumbsup: :)
TAKE CARE
Glenn

[AztcFireFlower]

Gord-MacDonald Thank you.
anandpg You are too kind.
SpiritDreamer Thank you. I hope this year is a good one for me....

I am currently in an analytical anatomy type quick sketch class that I really love. May be awhile before I post new stuff. There will definitely be a bit of a reworking of my thinking process, incorporating many new concepts and a different approach. I plan to maintain my gestural sweeps as I learn new skills and mental drawing tools.:thumbsup:

This is the last of the 2007 quiks. As soon as I have decent work to show, they'll appear.
http://www.fileden.com/files/2006/7/12/125726/QuikGrl1.jpg
http://www.fileden.com/files/2006/7/12/125726/3TonalTonies.jpg
http://www.fileden.com/files/2006/7/12/125726/Tony%20in%20Shadow.jpg
http://www.fileden.com/files/2006/7/12/125726/2Graces.jpg
http://www.fileden.com/files/2006/7/12/125726/3QuikGrls.jpg

[AztcFireFlower]

Final upload of 2007 quiks.

http://www.fileden.com/files/2006/7/12/125726/BackGrl.jpghttp://www.fileden.com/files/2006/7/12/125726/FrontBack.JPG
http://www.fileden.com/files/2006/7/12/125726/Grace2.jpg
http://www.fileden.com/files/2006/7/12/125726/PowerflGrace.jpg
http://www.fileden.com/files/2006/7/12/125726/StatueArch.jpg

[anandpg]

WOW!!... Inspiration, just when I needed it!!:scream:
Waiting eagerly for your new stuff!!:bounce:

[CyborgJA]

I can only drool.... :eek:

[ceruleanvii]

I love your drawings! I'm a big fan of charcoal, and you are clearly very skilled with it. I admire the way you incorporate gestural strokes with clearly rendered masses - beautiful work.

If you don't mind, could I ask you a little bit about your approach? My problem is my gestures and quicker drawings are a lot more fluid and full of life than my longer poses. With the long ones I get stuck plotting things out... measuring... and they end up dull and stiff. How do you keep that wonderful loose quality you have with your longer poses? Sorry to be so long winded and pepper you with all these questions, but I really love your work!

[AztcFireFlower]

anandpg, CyborgJA Thank you. Always very glad when you come by to support.
ceruleanvii Thank you for your nice comments.
I also have the same problem with stiffness as a longer drawing gets rendered.
What I have been afviced and found to be true is to exaggerate the initial gesture, more than what you see. Also, egg shapes as gestures over the form to place some of the muscle shapes helps alot towards counteracting the natural solidity that comes with construction and building form over a gesture. This is what I have been excited about as I have experimented and found that this indeed helps to keep the figure a little more fluid.


The 4 drawings were done in Steve Hustons wonderful class. His advice and instruction broke me our of the stiff phase my drawings had existed in for so long.

I've reached a new level with my work that I'm very happy with. Now the next BIG challenge is to invent figures and hands to the same degree of effeciency that is possible with life drawings. The bad thing is you never stop learning.......but, the good thing is you never stop learning. :)

http://www.fileden.com/files/2006/7/12/125726/torsos1.jpg
http://www.fileden.com/files/2006/7/12/125726/torso%20closeup.jpg
http://www.fileden.com/files/2006/7/12/125726/male.jpg
http://www.fileden.com/files/2006/7/12/125726/reclining%20male1.jpg

[AztcFireFlower]

Here are the first in a series of home studies from pics (poor artist, here) where I focus on keeping the gesture as I build up the forms. Roughness is okay with me at this point.
2 things I pursue in my studies, keeping the figure fluid throughout the process and really 3Ding the forms.
http://www.fileden.com/files/2006/7/12/125726/HomeStudies002.jpg
http://www.fileden.com/files/2006/7/12/125726/HomeStudies001.jpg
This sketch I'm just playing with shapes and gesture.
http://www.fileden.com/files/2006/7/12/125726/HomeStudies003.jpg

[anandpg]

Hey Esmeralda! Welcome back!!:applause: Beautiful drawings, as usual! It is a great inspiration to see you pushing towards newer possibilities even when you are at such an accomplished level of skill! respects!:bowdown:

[NR43]

I would soooo love to see you drawing!
Anyway, it is extremely motivating to see your work.
Thanks for sharing your work and thoughts Esmeralda!

[Mu]

overwhelmingly sweet!

So glad to see new work by you!

[Heozart]

Wow! Your drawings are a joy to look at. Would you care to explain what you mean when you say you are "constructing"? Sounds like it is a process you use to build a figure, but I am not sure exacly how. Looking forward to see more.

[ceruleanvii]

Thanks for the advice, Esmeralda. I will be resuming a figure drawing class soon and I'll have to try those techniques. Love your new works!

[AztcFireFlower]

anandpg So kind. trying to get motivated to continue my studies. Always a great help to see your support. Thank you.
Johan Thanks for being here and visiting as much as you do. Watching me draw is like watchind paint dry. 90% of the time there would be a giant eraser covering the paper.
Hey Mu Thank you.
Heozart Thanks for comments. constructing is, indeed, the lay-out of the figure.
Usually start with gesture, correct weight balance of the pose you are seeing, proportions. Constructing is then applied to flesh out the figure from the 2D lay-in to the 3D forms. A process, I am still refining as it isn't 2nd nature (I'm lazy).
ceruleanvii You are most welcome. Keep on advancing.

I've been AWOl for a long time. slooooooowwlyyyyyy getting back on track. Sigh, being an adult is hard :D
Responsibility for parent's well-being, AND figuring out my own path...............sometimes not fun.

I miss interacting with the creative community.
Couple of drawings inspired by Body Worlds, here in Los Angeles. I thought I was going to be repulsed, but, I found it actually very fascinating. Displays did not subtract any dignity, in my opinion, of the individual. We were given a glimpse of firsthand visuals and some mechanics for the human body and to me that's just an incredible opportunity.

Here are some studies of the most intriguing to me. Wish I had had more time. I found that immersion into a drawing was very relaxing as well as magnetic because of the subject.
Thanks all for visiting. :)

http://www.fileden.com/files/2006/7/12/125726/BdyWorldSpecimen001%20copy.jpg
http://www.fileden.com/files/2006/7/12/125726/BdyWorldSpecimen002%20copy.jpg
http://www.fileden.com/files/2006/7/12/125726/BdyWorldSpecimen005%20copy.jpg

[AztcFireFlower]

One more drawing. I really enjoyed working on this.
This drawing and the previous posted ones are done in graphite on white Utrecht Sketch stock. More detailed work is possible with pencil, so the drawings are no bigger than 11x14 inches.
http://www.fileden.com/files/2006/7/12/125726/bodyWorldMerge%20copy.jpg

[anandpg]

Hey Esmeralda! you're back!:bounce: Beautiful ecorches, needless to say!

[ceruleanvii]

Oh, I love these! Very cool, you did a wonderful job with them. This exhibit (or one very similar?) is coming to our area next month and I have to be sure to go there and try and do some sketching. When it came around a few years ago I was pregnant, and thought at the time it would be way too disturbing...

Beautiful work!

[NR43]

Hi Esmeralda
Beautiful work as always!

[sanpaiya]

http://fc05.deviantart.com/fs18/f/2007/186/8/c/_jawdrop__by_Kermodog.gifhttp://fc05.deviantart.com/fs18/f/2007/186/8/c/_jawdrop__by_Kermodog.gifhttp://fc05.deviantart.com/fs18/f/2007/186/8/c/_jawdrop__by_Kermodog.gifhttp://fc05.deviantart.com/fs18/f/2007/186/8/c/_jawdrop__by_Kermodog.gif . . i have no words

[CyborgJA]

Woman, it's always a pleasure to look at your works.

[konrad11]

WOW!! :bowdown:
I`m impresed.
There is all in your thread.
Great works, respect - really good stuff.
Sketches that made impressin on me. From witch people can just learn.
Inspiration - I`m getting to work on figurative drawing:) Now I have even more motivation to practicing and skeetching.
Thanks a lot!
For sure I`ll be looking by time to time to your thread.

And yeah, it was pleasure to look at it.

[Intervain]

:drool: - that about sums it up!

[batte812]

I agree with all of the above! Keep posting!

[SpiritDreamer]

Hey..Esmiralda..:wavey:

LONG TIME.
I see you haven't lost your structural touch, or sense of movement..:thumbsup:
That woman in the dance pose ..post# 66 second one down OUTSTANDING:bounce:

HOPE TO SEE LOTS MORE OF YOUR WORK...ALWAYS AN INSPIRATION.
TAKE CARE
Glenn

[collings]

waow awesome i dig your studies man !

[AztcFireFlower]

Thanks everyone for the stars! Very kind.

Hi Anand, Trying to get back into the swing of things. Sitting in front of one of these specimens was fascinating, wasn't grossed out at all.........Well, thank goodness there was no smell.
Thanks for your kind comments!
ceruleanvii Thank you. I think you'll find how unique the opportunity to see the human machine is.
I would see it again. Not really disturbing, but more like watching a National Geographic special in 3d. Kinda awe inspiring in there is SOOOO much intricate design in the body that all syncs together beautifully to produce movement, and well, LIFE! Do IT! Sketch! :)
Hi Johan, Always kind and supportive. Always look forward to your visits here in this thread. Your concern is forever noted. In fact, s'why I decided to put up older work to see a clearer view of my experience. I needed to see how my path has progressed. Time to begin setting up the structure to find ways to use my skills in something productive. Your thoughts were taken to heart. :)
sanpayiya Thank you :)
Serena! Wouldn't be the same without your visits. My thread is so much brighter because of it. :D I know about life changes, but, I"m glad you're still active and posting work in the anatomy thread.
Hey konrad, Much appreciate your visit and words. Flattered that you find my works a source of learning. I am still learning a heck of alot! The anatomy class I hav now, is filling in alot if not all the gaps. As I absorb the new concepts, I'll be posting new stuff.
Magdalena, The queen of 3D. you know, one day I'll open up a 3D package and..........throw away the wrapper. :)
batte812 Thank you!
Glenn! Yes! Long time. Good to see old friends again. he dancer, I loved how the people were posed. Graceful and dignified. Wonderful opportunity to see the human structure un thus way. Hopefully, soon, Many more works to come.
collings Thanks for stopping by. Great 3D modeling. May hit you up for some tips. :)

Posting older oil studies, to sort of round out the experience. These are 3-4 hour studies.
I haven't painted in over a year, miss it very much. Hopefully when I post the new ones, there will be a difference.

http://www.fileden.com/files/2006/7/12/125726/bearded%20guy%20.jpg
http://www.fileden.com/files/2006/7/12/125726/Charles%20copy.jpg
http://www.fileden.com/files/2006/7/12/125726/Forrest%20Zorn%20P.jpg
http://www.fileden.com/files/2006/7/12/125726/Forrest2005.jpg
(http://img379.imageshack.us/my.php?image=songindaylightzornpallzo7.jpg)

[AztcFireFlower]

Oil studies continued:
http://www.fileden.com/files/2006/7/12/125726/Song%20in%20Daylight%20Zorn%20pall.jpg
http://www.fileden.com/files/2006/7/12/125726/Mark%20Estrada%20daylight%20Zorn%20P.jpg
http://www.fileden.com/files/2006/7/12/125726/Melissa%20Zorn%20P.jpg
http://www.fileden.com/files/2006/7/12/125726/Painitngs006%20copy.jpg

[AztcFireFlower]

More images
http://www.fileden.com/files/2006/7/12/125726/Painitngs014%20copy.jpg
http://www.fileden.com/files/2006/7/12/125726/Painitngs029%20copy.jpg
http://www.fileden.com/files/2006/7/12/125726/Painitngs023%20copy.jpg
http://www.fileden.com/files/2006/7/12/125726/Painitngs008.jpg

[AztcFireFlower]

These are more recent, if you can call 2 years ago, recent. About 4 hours.
Color mixing is quite a challenge for me. That and keeping the values correct so that it reads as real. Awesome challenge, tho.

The last one is a Master copy of a Sargeant; The Arab. I was haunted by tat handsome face and loved painting the copy. Have done a digital Master copy since, that's posted in my CG Portfolio. I miss painting. Hope when I recover some space that this part of my art education will continue.

http://www.fileden.com/files/2006/7/12/125726/chantalle%20.jpg
http://www.fileden.com/files/2006/7/12/125726/Pirate%20Girl.jpg
http://www.fileden.com/files/2006/7/12/125726/Sarah%20Clown.jpg
http://www.fileden.com/files/2006/7/12/125726/Painitngs020%20copy.jpg
http://www.fileden.com/files/2006/7/12/125726/The%20Arab-Sargeant%20MasterCopy.jpg

[anandpg]

Thanks again for the inspiration, Esmeralda!! :bounce: I started painting with acrylic on canvas last week.. (not practising regularly because I don't feel like painting indoors).. I hope to learn a bit from seeing your bold strokes and great color sense.

[NR43]

Hi Esmeralda
That's a great idea to put these lovely studies in here!
I hope you don't mind but I've downloaded them on my hard drive so I can study your techniques a bit more profound if I want to, or to just easily browse through them when I'm looking for inspiration. (I now have a "Esmeralda Acosta" folder on my HD heh)
Great to see you thinking ahead! Can't wait to see more now :bounce:

Take care!
Johan

[collings]

.....
collings Thanks for stopping by. Great 3D modeling. May hit you up for some tips. :)
....
(http://img379.imageshack.us/my.php?image=songindaylightzornpallzo7.jpg)

Sure whenever you want ;) your portrait paintings look amazing It must be so enjoyable to be able to do that ! :applause:

[sanpaiya]

yup . . . can see that you enjoy the traditional medium . . i cant help but wonder where your skills stand now ! i dont want to see. . might be injurious to my health !

[monicaitt]

Wow!!!:buttrock: Your work is crazy amazingly greatly awsomely good!

(sorry i was so excited to see your work it was the only way i could put it into words)

Very inspiring... makes me wanna pick up the brush again. The only thing about oils is that it takes so long to dry. I've considered Acrylic but I'm not as comfortable with them.

Great work.

[Quadart]

Impressive sketches and drawings. Great oil studies as well.
–Looking forward to seeing more.

[AztcFireFlower]

anandpg Your comments are deeply appreciated. I miss painting, but, until, I can create space here at home, I won't be starting any new studies in oil. will be sure to check out your latest amazing sculpts. :)
Johan Don't mind at all. Am flattered you would do so. Will try my best to stay with it.
collings Awesome. Thanks! When it works it's paradise......but, when, ya can't get it.......you run crying to the teacher. :scream:
sanpaiya Thank you. I am trying to put a nice big gap from then and now, but, sigh, the process, is going to take as long as it's going to take. Can push it but you can't force it when your really focused on learning. So, I am making way, in increments.
monicaitt But see, that's why oils are great. You can keep refining without fear of wrecking the paint. ANd, there are stuff to accelerate the drying time.
For me, there is no richness in any other medium using a brush.
Thank you for visitng and your kind words.
Quadart Thank you. Definitely check back! :)

And now! For something completely different. HandS!. They are amazingly gestural and full of personality. A complete form unto themselves. I'm fnding I really enjoy this aspect of anatomy.
http://www.fileden.com/files/2006/7/12/125726/Hand%20studies002%20copy.jpg

I was also inspired to do a quick portrait. About 1/2 hour from a photo. I was intrigued by the structure of this young man's face. Very clear and fine masculine features.
http://www.fileden.com/files/2006/7/12/125726/AndreaBianco%20copy.jpg

[selphoo]

very strong oil-update :)

love your drawings (studies)- absolutely awesome job!

i wish u a creative new year!

cheers!

[anandpg]

Hey Esmeralda! HAPPY NEW YEAR!:scream: Thanks for the inspiration as always! Hope you give us lots more amazing stuff to get inspired by this year!:scream:

[Intervain]

wow I love those last studies - wow the hands are rocking! Happy New Year Esmeralda :)

[NR43]

He Esmeralda

I agree with you about hands...
Love the portrait too.. reminds me I need more contrast in my work!

[krispee]

oh yeah, lovely work, Esmeralda, the quicks and the oil studies are beautiful :applause:

kris

[bhaskar]

Great Work! Nice sketches of hand gestures!

[yarabe]

Really nice! Love it. Also checked your blogs, the work there is amazing to:applause:
I'll keep coming back, your work reminds me of my first set of goals and keeps me inspired to just keep going.

[SpiritDreamer]

HEY Esmeralda...AZTEC FIRE FLOWER..I really like that name myself..:)

Anyway, just stopping by to get a good dose of INSPIRATION..:)
I really enjoy seeing the mood you are creating in your drawing..especally that guy that kind of looks like elvis on the previous page...Really a great drawing there..:applause: :thumbsup:

Hope all is well with you and yours, and that you have a GREAT and very creative and productive NEW YEAR..:) :arteest:
KEEP INSPIRED, AND INSPIRING..:)
TAKE CARE
Glenn

[aethalin]

Hiya,

Well done, Esmeralda! I really enjoy the gesture studies of hands. You also captured that mans portrait nicely. It reminds me of initial sketch for a sculpture. It has a faint Greek nuance to me for some reason. very nice paintings as well, it makes me wish that I had all my traditional art supplies with me. Keep up the great work. :)

As always take care, be safe, and farewell

aethalin

[alenah]

.. so much inspiration in your work!
I wish I could see your process :)
beautifull studies!
a.

[AztcFireFlower]

selphoo Thanks. And a great creative new year for you, as well.
anandpjg Always love when you visit. Thank you for your nice comments. Means alot to me. I will say the same for you. I really wish I had time for ZBrush. To create the fantastic stuff you do........so jealous. :) In a good way.
Magdalena Thank you. I am trying for a personal best this year, starting these next few months. So, hope to be able to fill this SB with work. :) Thanks for always stopping by for a visit.
Johan Thank you. I realize....with happiness.....that art is a lifelong pursuit. There is always a new goal. I am still working out values to a definite understanding. Observation amd practice. + good teachers. :)
krispee Thank you. :)
bhaskar Thank you. :)
yarabe Thanks for checking my stuff out. It makes me glad to hear I can inspire someone. It's all mileage.
SpiritDreamer Wow. I can't catch up to your amazing work schedule. Talk about inspiring. Thank you for coming to hang out here for a little while.
aethalin Hey, Thanks for your kind comments. The model for the portrait had a definite Roman/classical character to him. So, I had to draw him. I don't know what I would do without art. Drawing is a passion for me. May your art path be straight and pebbleless. :)
alenah Thank you. Appreciate your words. Maybe at some point I'll post a process.

Here are a few sketches from this week. 3's, 5 minutes. Still working out a process between using as much gesture as well as, as much construction as possible. Keeping the life in your final drawing is the goal. Takes adding more gesture than you actually see and then building on that. As you construct you wind up with a small fight to resist stiffening the figure. It's part of the normal process.


http://www.image-upload.net/images/djeyfx98f6fgmycx6n5.jpg (http://www.image-upload.net/)
http://www.image-upload.net/images/uym7gmfjjcds36rzfh2u.jpg (http://www.image-upload.net/)
http://www.image-upload.net/images/we7g155q0ru7xmq932hh.jpg (http://www.image-upload.net/)




(http://www.image-upload.net/)

[AztcFireFlower]

They won't let me post a bunch of images, SO....here is another batch. 5's and the last ones are 20's. Again figuring out how to merge 2 different approaches, because they both have beautiful ways to define the form. That's my path and with lotsa practice, hope to acheive this goal.
http://www.image-upload.net/images/70bx7x0owhajtz9j9mj.jpg (http://www.image-upload.net/)
http://www.image-upload.net/images/e4f4fi5vo0eypg1s40sj.jpg (http://www.image-upload.net/)
http://www.image-upload.net/images/rb5c6exooupddsh7ba25.jpg (http://www.image-upload.net/)
http://www.image-upload.net/images/re4p6vqpwxer9v4130qp.jpg (http://www.image-upload.net/)

[Quadart]

These are fantastic. I really like the first 3 sets of gestures.

[Intervain]

fantastic sketches Esmeralda, I especially love the last 2 studies!

[NR43]

Damn woman... I'm glad you posted these
:drool:

[Heozart]

Wow, awesome update! I really like the gestures as well as.........well, everything else! :D

[sanpaiya]

thank you for posting these . . beautiful !

[KarthikAL]

fantastic work :bowdown:

[CyborgJA]

What I really appreciate also in your sketches is the precision and the accuracy you use to describe each body. Each figure is anatomically near to perfection and it's a pleasure to look at a sketch too.

Brava :)

[krispee]

it was, Loomis, wasn`t it, who talked about line having rhythm?
your line has rhythm :drool:

kris

[AztcFireFlower]

Quadart Thank you. When all else fails in 3 minutes - abstract.
Magdalena Thank you.
Johan Thank you, May all the other images I post result in this exclamation. :)
Heozart Thank you. Appreciate the visit.
sanpaiya Thank you for looking!
Karthikal Thank you. :)
Hey Serena What an awesome comment! Thank you for thinking so. If the drawing dosn't represent the original model or photo, just hide the original. :)
krispee Loomis has lotsa wisdom, I still dig up. Thank you for your much appreciated comment.
Here are some volume studies I do at home from photos. In order to think 3Dimensionlly, place forms such as tubes and boxes over the body.

http://www.image-upload.net/images/44cw5fj6wqjmz42em7pj.jpg (http://www.image-upload.net/)
http://www.image-upload.net/images/er58vk4mgqjtijrri3xy.jpg (http://www.image-upload.net/)http://www.image-upload.net/images/5suomfxkax49hqqo79fq.jpg (http://www.image-upload.net/)http://www.image-upload.net/images/wuv3yhvfnnyodkqflknt.jpg (http://www.image-upload.net/)

[AztcFireFlower]

A few more volume studies. I tend to really exaggerate the forms and shadows to define the area in a study. In a complete final drawing, I would probably be much more understated in the muscle separation.
http://www.image-upload.net/images/q95s3rar9rm52b4kp7b6.jpg (http://www.image-upload.net/)
http://www.image-upload.net/images/czv6gnoz818nv47qaf91.jpg (http://www.image-upload.net/)

This last one is a workshop QS. clothed models in short time, means thinking in terms of abstract shapes and pattern. Good exercise. Need much more practice and study.
http://www.image-upload.net/images/8ic115wd33l510c6429.jpg (http://www.image-upload.net/)

[JM-art]

Hi! Incredible stuff here:beer: . I´m actualy learning anatomy with this thread, your drawings are accurate, and show a great sintesys of important shapes, lines, volumes, musles, bones, etc.
So thanks for sharing, and keep posting this awsome works please...they´re gold.

Cheers.

[collings]

really cool stuff, it's interesting to see all your construction lines :) i have to use it much more in my life drawings.

[batte812]

Hi Esmeralda, great work! It's very interesting to see drawings in different stages of progress. I like the gesture studies in post 99; such elegant lines! Keep posting!

[anandpg]

WOW!!... :bounce:

[vikramvr]

Fantastic thread...Wow, as JMART has said, this is going to be quite a source of reference and inspiration to me. Hope you wouldn't me copying a couple of your anatomy drawings, in an effort to learn anatomy

[AztcFireFlower]

Hi JMART, Why thank you for such high praise. Glad, you can sense all the thinking behind the effort. Thanks for comng by.
collings, Thank you. Construction is very important. I can't build a figure withour a base. I actually like seeing these frameworks in drawings. Gives a unique view into a persons process.
battes812, Thank you for your comments on the lines. It is a discipline to think and act where you want those lines to go.
anandpj What would my thread be without your visits. :)
Hi vikramvr, Thank you. Quite a compliment to see that anatomy is fairly clear in the drawings. If you feel you can learn from them.......

Here are the better ones from this weekend's local workshop.
. Many people, as well as myself, use plumb lines to find the most accurate arch, angle, etc.
I'm remembering THE big shape and negative space to place and space the proportions of whatever pose the figure is in. Much more visual training, but good for the eye/brain and creating efficiency of live model drawing.


http://www.fileden.com/files/2006/7/12/125726/back%20view%20feb08.jpg
http://www.fileden.com/files/2006/7/12/125726/3malesfeb08.jpg
Forgot to mention, thanks Nick: These are 20 minute drawings.

[collings]

excellent :) how long were the poses for those drawings ?

[AztcFireFlower]

Thanks collings The previous were 20 Min.

These are some short poses. Most are 3's, some 5's.

http://www.image-upload.net/images/4hd5i3qourf050fg3lav.jpg (http://www.image-upload.net/)http://www.image-upload.net/images/91t1wq9hha4cc3e55se7.jpg (http://www.image-upload.net/)
http://www.image-upload.net/images/woh66xsk0l2xx40wysmd.jpg (http://www.image-upload.net/)
http://www.image-upload.net/images/dfikbtcvt3ri7t50770.jpg (http://www.image-upload.net/)
http://www.image-upload.net/images/21g33s6pywtu5l7rrjeu.jpg (http://www.image-upload.net/)
http://www.image-upload.net/images/0s70hvrqtstp6w6cvcgc.jpg (http://www.image-upload.net/)
http://www.image-upload.net/images/x8zas3ddqzjp47r3jjj.jpg (http://www.image-upload.net/)

[AztcFireFlower]

Some longer quick sketches. 5's & 20's.

http://www.image-upload.net/images/g1f6kv3sg3sjb6cprjda.jpg (http://www.image-upload.net/)
http://www.image-upload.net/images/oe610tsfkbubgez2oaf4.jpg (http://www.image-upload.net/)
http://www.image-upload.net/images/dt6l9xqinr23ebow0mh5.jpg (http://www.image-upload.net/)
http://www.image-upload.net/images/tkkdsgs2j13nz5l77bue.jpg (http://www.image-upload.net/)http://www.image-upload.net/images/41mvd6l3au0j9kvhn0y.jpg (http://www.image-upload.net/)

[AztcFireFlower]

http://www.image-upload.net/images/y221qt3wdfybknz9vbv1.jpg (http://www.image-upload.net/)
http://www.image-upload.net/images/ipvntak3aug2b399rj87.jpg (http://www.image-upload.net/)

A chance to re-think the approach for a clothed model. Think: big shapes.

http://www.image-upload.net/images/dho4sbdgt8g3g7y2es2z.jpg (http://www.image-upload.net/)http://www.image-upload.net/images/kulgxfewu2dr1xjkf7r3.jpg (http://www.image-upload.net/)
http://www.image-upload.net/images/xs1xcmaxz3rvxydjxe6p.jpg (http://www.image-upload.net/)

[SpiritDreamer]

OUTSTANDING LIFE DRAWINGS.. Esmeralda..:thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

ALWAYS an INSPIRATION and GREAT PLEASURE seeing your work..:)
Also ALWAYS looking forward to seeing LOTS MORE..:)
TAKE CARE, and keep up the GREAT WORK..AZTEC FIRE FLOWER :thumbsup:
Glenn

[NR43]

These are beautiful!

I should really have a good look at them right before I go to life drawing class tomorrow... it would bring me in the right frame of mind to start sketching I think...

Very inspiring Esmeralda.
Thanks for sharing!

[AztcFireFlower]

Thank you SpiritDreamer/Glenn,

Always look forward to your kind words and encouragement. I have been hitting several drawing workshops a week, so I really hope to add many good drawings in the weeks to come. My focus is always on improvement. So, there are things I am working out, and hope in time, the improvement will stay consistent.

Hey Johan,
I'm happy to see you can take something out of my work. The core elements I am developing are dynamics, balance & solid description of the muscles in an aesthetic way.
Means learning the muscles and how they sit on th frame, but, more importantly, how to design the pencil marks to explain it ina fluid, strong, clear way what it is I see.
Thanks always for stopping in. :)


A few more of the quick sketches in the 20 minute mode.
http://www.fileden.com/files/2006/7/12/125726/20GirlSit.jpg
http://www.fileden.com/files/2006/7/12/125726/3malesfeb08.jpg
http://www.fileden.com/files/2006/7/12/125726/Contemplating.jpg
http://www.fileden.com/files/2006/7/12/125726/Woman20s.jpg
http://www.fileden.com/files/2006/7/12/125726/SarahLong.jpg
http://www.fileden.com/files/2006/7/12/125726/StandingMale20s.jpg
http://www.fileden.com/files/2006/7/12/125726/20sLying_Sit.jpg

[sycen]

awesome drawings :bowdown:

[anandpg]

Hi Esmeralda! Beautiful stuff as always! :drool:

[staticpen]

Ah, didn't know you posted here! Chris Sears over at CA has a link to your place in his signature, but I never clicked it for some reason. But just now I saw that you had posted the most recent comment on anandpg's place and clicked my way over here through that link.

Lovely stuff! Your handling really reminds me of Burne Hogarth. I'm sure you get that a lot though. ;D

Cheers!

[Heozart]

:drool: So beautiful and inspiring! It always amazes me how your lines look as if they were drawn with ease, yet the details are very accurate.

[kasana]

AH ! I'm dead.
Just can't resist. My room-mate told me to see your work. Checked on Conceptart as well. You are Awesome.

I think I made a mistake by visiting your page.........:bowdown::bowdown::bowdown:

[Intervain]

ah damn, so awesome!! Truly inspiring things here Esmeralda!:bounce::buttrock:

[anandpg]

Hey Esmeralda! It was such a delight meeting you in person and seeing your wonderful drawings in real life! :) ..meeting such awesome people as you has made my trip to L.A. worthwhile.. Thanks a ton for the pencils too!! :scream: I will hopefully get to try them out this week for the life-drawing class at the studio! ...and once again, thanks for being such an inspiration!

[bkkm]

Hi Esmeralda,

I am new here and I've just discovered your sketchbook. These are very beautiful drawings! I really like your constructive approach to the figure-- reminds me of Kevin Chen's and Vilppu's. It's also the approaching I'm trying to teach myself, though I have a long way to go! I'm definitely coming back to your thread again :)

Brenno

[kasana]

You met Anand .... Super Awesome. Same Question I asked Anand ...Did Earth Shake when you guys met. :)
You guys are true Insipiration.

[krispee]

super work again, Esmeralda, especially love the way you do your foreshortening work, the larger lady lying down and away from the viewer is brilliant, and some of your quick sketches are really superb.......

Kris

[AztcFireFlower]

Sycen Thank you. :)
Hey Anand, Thanks! These boards are cool this way. Am glad to have met the people I have. Hope Dreamworks is still treating you well. Never let the pencils get cold. :)
staticpen Thanks for checking my SB out. Chris has some great great stuff. I admire his pursuit of excellence.
Heozart Thank you. I appreciate your comment alot.
kasana Thank you. You are too kind. As long as you have a pulse, you can get there. :) It was great meeting Anand. Amazing to know folks here and actually meet them in person.
Hey Magda, Always glad to see you here. :)
Thank you.
bkkm Thanks! As a matter of fact I am in Kevin's long pose class this summer. Learning tons. He really is one of the best teachers around. Generous with his time & knowledge. Will post the decent stuff when they happen. Thanks for visiting.
krispee Thank you. Most kind.

I haven't got much to show these days. My approach is constantly changing. Currently in 2 very very awesome classes & these are keeping the gears turning. Trying to tie down a permanent process to drawing.

So this is the only decent work of late. When better stuff is created, I'll post it.
Thanks for looking.
http://www.fileden.com/files/2006/7/12/125726/Leaning%20Back.jpg
http://www.fileden.com/files/2006/7/12/125726/June09ws.jpg
http://www.fileden.com/files/2006/7/12/125726/Yuko.jpg

This one I did in Glen Orbik's class. He added all the nice flourishes in the more confident and expert marks. I am looking to be heavily influenced by his style, where the flourishes will be my own, someday.
http://www.fileden.com/files/2006/7/12/125726/Head%20Study1.jpg

[NR43]

That's great news Esmeralda!
You say that you are looking for a permanent process for drawing.
How do you go about that? What are your thoughts so far?
Eg, what should the initial phase exist of?

[Tonik]

As usual great work. I've been a fan of your stuff for a long while and there's so much to learn just by looking at your pieces. Thanks for posting ! It makes me realise how far I have to go but it's inspiring to see.

[AztcFireFlower]

Hi Johan, Thanks for coming by, and for the thought-provoking questions and your interest in my direction. :)
Helps me to really define my path clearer.

Among the many goals, one of the important ones, is realism in my work. And in order to do that, I've spent time honing in on construction and learning surface anatomy. Acquiring a basic lay-in understanding of spacing and placing a figure. How to deal with foreshortening, etc. Well, I've spent alot of time on the skill of capturing the model's likeness using these schematics. I've gotten pretty good at it. But, after many years of that, then what, I'm a human Xerox.

I found that what draws me to an artist is that persons view and sensibilities with the instrument of description, oils, watercolor, pencils. So, staying with the media of charcoal pencils in my case, I see there has to be something unique I bring to the depiction.
I've realized it's starts with design.
First, acquiring (and understanding how to use) a set of design elements; tools, and filling my mental library with interesting use of these design elements taken from artists I admire (and boy do I got alot!). Designs that appeal to me or have impressed me in an emotional or graphic way, I must take and stuff in my mental art box for later use. Have a long way to go B4 I have an intuitive grab bag. But, what else do I have but time as I grow older?

My struggle is seeing the design possibilites in my own initial work. And without experience, I can't figure out what to do. Frustrating. Fortunately, both my teachers have pointed us students to the source - Master Copies! :)
Acquire someone else's skllls in design. And create a mental library.

I'm ready for it. Actually painless, but, the important thing is to ask yourself questions and analyze the answers in a particular Master Work.
As my physical trainer has said to me, more than once, do every movement with a purpose. Don't just fly through the motions with momentum, control the movement with awareness.
Because of these exercises, I am, slowy but surely, acquiriing much needed discipline, as well. The more discipline, the faster I'll get better at this. I hope.

This path applies to whatever approach you learn. All the "rules" of constructing and composing a piece remain pretty much the same. Only recently have I become ready to absorb and understand these themes in a deeper way. A small progress I am happy to note.

There are 2 qualities I want my figures to show: Solid construction and beautiful design. What I'm trying to reslve is this. Construction although well done can make for stiff figures. Design without construction leaves figures with no weight, wimpy. There is also graphic 2D design vs volume and my need to retain both in my work. That is a huge resolution of approaches for me, knowing when or how to use those elements together.

Kevin Chen teaches strong strong construction that will leave no doubt in your mind or the viewer's mind, what's going on.
Glen Orbik teaches a method that leans heavier on designing the figure, or anything for that matter, right from the start. Not that it throws construction out the window, but, allows you to use that knowledge, if you have it, to create more design options for yourself. Much is based on rhythms and gesture in your lay-ins to give life to your figures.
Both teachers methods do cross many times in approach, still, it's for me at the end of all this to grab what helps me the best to reach my aesthetic goal from each of my mentors: Beautiful design with solid figure knowledge.
After I finish Kevin's class, I will stay with Glen O's classes, for guidance, as I learn design & pencil mark calligraphy, be that a year or 2. But Kevin's construction won't leave me. That's part of my kit, now.
I must add that Kevin also lectures on composition and design. Extremely knowledgeable and his concept work is awesome.
Glen, he has this amazing sense of design in his portrait sketches that sometimes takes my breath away. There is life in every stroke.
As I am teaching, I really want this degree of skill in design, that I may explain and pass it on to my students, someday.

Hope this dialectic (learned a new word!) hasn't made anyone's eye's bleed. I appreciate the questions and wanted to also try and resolve the conflict of approaches to myself.

Tonik Thank you for checking it out. I have the same feeling about my own path. I have much studying ahead of me. But, that's what gives life some meaning. Life should be filled with discovery and applying some of the neat things we learn to our lives.

[SpiritDreamer]

Hi Esmeralda..:)

BEAUTIFULLY EXPRESSED THOUGHTS AND FIGURES..:thumbsup:

As ALWAYS...An INSPIRING INSPIRED INSPIRATION in both..:)

TAKE CARE and..KEEP ON TRUCKIN..AZTEC FIRE FLOWER :thumbsup: :arteest:
Glen

[AztcFireFlower]

Hey Spirit Dreamer. Thanks. Likewise-Inspired.
Am truckin as much as I can!

Not much new stuff. Am trickling out some new drawings from this summer.
A little bit of Kevin Chen & Glen Orbik influenced studies.http://img521.imageshack.us/img521/6448/dsc03621.jpg (http://img521.imageshack.us/i/dsc03621.jpg/)

http://img521.imageshack.us/img521/5509/yukosm2009.jpg (http://img521.imageshack.us/i/yukosm2009.jpg/)http://img521.imageshack.us/img521/858/yuko2009.jpg (http://img521.imageshack.us/i/yuko2009.jpg/)http://img521.imageshack.us/img521/8603/dsc03604z.jpg (http://img521.imageshack.us/i/dsc03604z.jpg/)

1st long pose study in Kevin's class. He's terrific and generous with his knowledge.
http://img521.imageshack.us/img521/82/jenniferkchenclasssu200.jpg (http://img521.imageshack.us/i/jenniferkchenclasssu200.jpg/)

This drawing does have some of Glen's expert hand in the finish.
http://img521.imageshack.us/img521/5668/forrestinglensclasssp20.jpg (http://img521.imageshack.us/i/forrestinglensclasssp20.jpg/)

Thanks Krispee Appreciate the visits.
Sanpaiya In a range of 20 minutes to no more than 3 hours.

[krispee]

still enjoying your work AF, lovely charcoal studies as usual......

Kris

[sanpaiya]

beautiful work . . inspirational as always . hpw long do you usually spend on a work . esp ones like these . .

[kasana]

Ignorance is Bliss. :banghead:

Thts what I feel everytime when see your work. I wish if I get a chance to see you working.

[Intervain]

'sigh' you're just so good at this! I love your drawings :love:

[NR43]

Hey Esmeralda, how are things?
I can only add to the superlatives mentioned above by fellow admirers :)

The woman on the barstool for example... breathtaking!
These drawings make me wish school would start again tonight!

[AztcFireFlower]

kasana Thank you. Too kind.
Magdalena, Thanks. I feel the same when I look at your work. Eons ahead in the sculpting department.
Hey Johan, we posted at the same time!
I'm doing alright. Hope you are, too. Alot of stuff going on and also taking Kevin Chen's advanced class and learning many finer points of figure drawing from a master. Things s..l..o..w..l..y... falling into place, at least I think they are. It's all good.
Always appreciate your visit. :)

Some more work.
Am still applying all that I've been learning in Kevin Chen's class and Glen Orbik's design sense.

http://www.fileden.com/files/2006/7/12/125726/DSC03625.JPGhttp://www.fileden.com/files/2006/7/12/125726/Blok%20in%20G.jpg


I think I finally have a handle on the construction and now am moving into looking for rhythms and designing the figure with the largest of these rhythms that I see.


These drawings are still focusing on the construction, but am adding a little more unity of forms with big rhythms.

[AztcFireFlower]

Few more studies of quick construction and rhythms at the lay-in stage.http://www.fileden.com/files/2006/7/12/125726/3%20Gs.jpg

Finding the forms and looking to describe them with, you guessed it....rhythms.
http://www.fileden.com/files/2006/7/12/125726/G%20Back.JPG

[Quadart]

Quite nice work. It's always a pleasure to see your updates.

[AztcFireFlower]

Quadart Thanks always for stopping by. :)

Some workshop studies:

http://img197.imageshack.us/img197/5346/1020min.jpg
http://img197.imageshack.us/img197/7316/scottyq.jpg

[sanpaiya]

hey esmeralda . . your work is always inspirational . .

[JM-art]

:D ....this is realy good, one of my favourite threads. It's a pleasure to see your drawings.

[AztcFireFlower]

sanpaiya, Thank you. Appreciate your words.
JMART, Thank you. I"m glad you enjoy checking out this thread.

Well, I'm trying to post only those sketches that show a bit of improvement. The quick sketches are 2 minutes with the purpose of finding the simplest explanation of form and relationship between forms. I'm just getting confident with these short poses.

2 minutes.

http://www.fileden.com/files/2006/7/12/125726/1girl_2Min1.JPG
http://www.fileden.com/files/2006/7/12/125726/2girl2min3.JPG
http://www.fileden.com/files/2006/7/12/125726/5girl2min8sml.JPG
http://www.fileden.com/files/2006/7/12/125726/7girl2min2part2.jpg
http://www.fileden.com/files/2006/7/12/125726/8girl2min4sml.jpg

My goal has now expanded to study value composition and add to my understanding of picture-making.

http://www.fileden.com/files/2006/7/12/125726/LeahSittingsml.JPG

[AztcFireFlower]

I think the head studies are pushing forward from my previous knowledge, so, for this reason I'm posting them here as well. Since this is a log of my progress, I will try not to put thousands of repetitive work. :) My home study involves analyzing C.D. Gibson, Loomis & Bernini for hair design and hair depiction.


Thanks everyone for checking it out.

http://www.fileden.com/files/2006/7/12/125726/girlHedPortraitsml.JPG
http://www.fileden.com/files/2006/7/12/125726/BrandtHedPortraitsml.JPG
http://www.fileden.com/files/2006/7/12/125726/Forrest%20in%20Glens%20class%20SP2009.jpg
http://www.fileden.com/files/2006/7/12/125726/Head%20Study1.jpg

[CyborgJA]

Dear, you know I love your sketches, both for anatomical ownership and dynamics!
How about some studies on feet and hands? :P

[batte812]

Hi Esmeralda, great updates! I love those lines in the 2 minute figure drawings. Keep posting!

[krispee]

well i think you`ve achieved your improvement, Esmeralda, they are beautifully flowing as usual.....

Kris

[AztcFireFlower]

Hey Serena, Yes, I must post some extreme appendages.......soooooon......
batte812 Thank you.
Hi Kris, thank you, I appreciate it.

I'm in a transition of tonal type drawings versus line and blocked constructive drawings. Transition consists of designing flow. Clear, clean structure explained with value & edge treatment not line. A lot to experience while not losing what I've adopted from construction class. Construction explains form and mass and planes. Not always an elegant presentation. But, A piece is about design and creating a focus. How to explain structure with value and no hard lines, retaining gesture and rhythms. Not an easy task, but, an engrossing one.

Latest with some tweeks from my instructor.

http://img197.imageshack.us/img197/7610/malow09forweb.jpg

[SpiritDreamer]

Hi Esmeralda...:)
Really like this new direction that your heading into.:thumbsup:
You might study the works of... Titian..., especally his later works.
When he painted, he never used line, ..he would paint the way you are drawing in this latest direction that your exploring..using color values and rhythms in his strokes, gestures, and most importantly focus...He was one of the greatest masters of the technique of never using line.
Just thought that I would mention him to you, just in case you weren't aware of his lineless technique..:)
ALWAYS a pleasure and inspiration visiting your thread..AZTEC FIREFLOWER..Keep up the GREAT studies and works..:thumbsup:
TAKE CARE
Glenn

[NR43]

Hello Esmeralda,
As usual, your work continues to amaze me.
I was wondering, what size are these longer studies drawn at? Are those charcoal pencil drawings?

When drawing full figures, do you always concider the head/face the main focal point? Does the facial expression have importance to you?

Anyway, you seem to enjoy the creative process, which is what it is all about.
Keep us posted please.

[AmrutRaju]

Your portraits and life drawings are amazing - Madam! :bowdown:

[AztcFireFlower]

Hi Glenn! Thank you.
I'm now moving out of line depiction to a more tonal description of the figure. In learning about construction, I used line to feel the muscle over the bigger forms as well as to describe a 3d volume.
I love the old Masters. Rembrandt. Caravaggio, Titian, Tiepolo......
Seeing in terms of value only and learning to use washes of tone are going to be a fascinating study for me.
Thanks always for your comments.
Johan Thank you. The drawings are on 18 x 24 sheets of extremely un-archival newsprint paper, but sometimes the whole page isn't used. Charcoal pencil is my medium of choice. I'll learn to use good paper soon.....
Generally I consider the figure as a portrait of the model, so the face is an eventual focal point. As I acquire skill in my marks, the expression will definitely become a powerful element of the image. I think of the Russian Masters Ivan Kromsky & Ilya Repin as a magnificent standard for portraits and the sitters mood. Incredible.
The creative process is wonderful, but every now and then a small acknowledgment from my mentor is a charge to the spirit. This last drawing I've posted has crossed a point of understanding, not just of technique, but of the psychology of fear of messing up. A huge block against producing good work for me. This drawing is a breakthrough for me and my teacher recognized it. It's done wonders for my confidence. You can see it is quite different from the drawings of a couple posts back. Value is now the vehicle of expression. I will probably lose alot of the line and some 3d form (because line's what I used to depict it, and I'm still learning to handle tone), but those elements of 3d and solid forms over forms will re-surface once again in a very clear but subtle way. Anyway, that's my goal.
:)
AmrutRaju Thank you. Appreciated.

http://www.fileden.com/files/2006/7/12/125726/Jonathen_forWeb.jpg

[killermachine]

this drawing definatly seems more confident then the one posted excatly before this.hope you touch more milestones like these with increased pace :)

[AztcFireFlower]

killermachine Thank you. I am, indeed, getting just a little more confident with tone and edges. nothing like experience and the tutelage of a master to nudge one along.

Here are a few more.

http://www.fileden.com/files/2006/7/12/125726/DSC_0671%20copy.jpg
http://www.fileden.com/files/2006/7/12/125726/Jonathan.jpg
http://www.fileden.com/files/2006/7/12/125726/TOny_2hour.jpg
http://www.fileden.com/files/2006/7/12/125726/Jennifer.jpg
http://www.fileden.com/files/2006/7/12/125726/Tony.jpg

[JM-art]

Beatifull art as always. When i see your drawings, the way you use the pencil...i think (i´m certain) you could achieve amazing paintings using watercolors. In your drawings the lines are precise and the shading style is natural and loose, wich are great skills to aply in watercolors. Well, let me have hopes about you doing some of that in some future.

Cheers.

[Cisc0]

What an impressing work O.o. It seems that human figure doesn't have any secret for you..

Regards to the master :bounce:

[NR43]

Lovely update Esmeralda.
How's the teaching going?

[SpiritDreamer]

HEY Esmeralda..:)

Just popping in for a good dose of Inspiration..Can always count on finding it in your thread and the works within it..THANK YOU FOR THAT....AZTEC FIREFLOWER.:) :thumbsup:

Hope all is well with you and yours..:)
TAKE CARE
Glenn

[Tasp]

Hello, I've just spent some time looking at your amazing drawings in large part due to Spiritdreamer's (Glenn's) suggestion.

Your style is amazing and from the beginning of your posts until the most recent ones you are improving!

I'm learning how to draw. As someone who hasn't had much formal training gesture drawing is something I find very difficult right now. It's so important to get the base form correct in order to get a good finished product. Your writing about exaggerating the pose more than it seems is very helpful. I've been going through your unfinished drawings in particular to see how you do it. The way the lines for the limbs go off further than the terminal points at the hands and feet seems like a wonderful way to keep the gesture loose and flowing. These are all things I am going to try and start doing.

Thank you so much for sharing your time and your work!

[AztcFireFlower]

Hi Glenn, Thank you for those kind and very appreciated words.
Thanks for stopping by and reminding me that I should update this old thread. :]
Hey Tasp,
I totally agree. The first step in a representational figure drawing is to get the lay-in to work. Even with a quick sketch (which necessarily emphasizes the gesture of the moment) structure should be evident. And you hit the nail right on it's specific head. Often to keep the flow moving not just on paper, but through your arm, the end point isn't primarily important. I was taught to seek the simplest shape to explain the pose while the longest line of flow is sought than placed on your page. Generally this is found in the silhouette. As time allows, you add the points of change, like wrist points or indents in the torso for rib and pelvis seperation. Thanks for your comments. I appreciate the visit.
I am moving into new territory - Tone and value as I begin to find and create complete pictures, finished pictures and not just studies. Think I've acquired a good sense of many of the components of figures and now am movingt hrough a thorough exploration of composition of light and dark pattern.

Am slowly bringing around all I've learned and absorbed from all my wonderful teachers.

First 2 incomplete studies of a figure in a fuller value range. Not enough time for a finish.
Am loving this approach! Charcoal as paint!
The last post are head studies pushing design and rhythms.

http://www.fileden.com/files/2006/7/12/125726/DSC_0746%20copy.jpg
http://www.fileden.com/files/2006/7/12/125726/JJ.jpg
http://www.fileden.com/files/2006/7/12/125726/Clay%20copy.jpg

[Kanga]

Not just structure, but lovely structure.
Sweet work!

[gregoo23]

Awesome gallery !
Keep the good work coming. Love the last figure studies!

[AztcFireFlower]

Kanga Thank you! It's always a challenge, but, as you explore make mistakes you learn. It keeps the brain alive.
gregoo23 Thank you for visiting.

Here's somore quicks. Lately can only just keep these going. Focus is not so easy lately so I just do what I know best........
Quick sketches from last coupla weeks.....

http://www.fileden.com/files/2006/7/12/125726/5min%20Paul%20copy.jpg
http://www.fileden.com/files/2006/7/12/125726/2minP%20copy.jpg
http://www.fileden.com/files/2006/7/12/125726/Quante%203%20copy.jpg
http://www.fileden.com/files/2006/7/12/125726/Quante%205%20copy.jpg
http://www.fileden.com/files/2006/7/12/125726/Quante%2010%20copy.jpg
http://www.fileden.com/files/2006/7/12/125726/10min%20Paul%20copy.jpg
http://www.fileden.com/files/2006/7/12/125726/Paul%2010min%20copy.jpg
http://www.fileden.com/files/2006/7/12/125726/Quante%20copy%20.jpg

[McWolfe]

Love these studies!!

/McWolfe

[jabuhrer]

Wow! Very inspiring thread! :bowdown:

Your sketches have a very classic illustration feel. Your values are especially dynamic - I think we could all learn from that. Thanks for the kick in the butt!

[Manaia]

Really really beautiful work ! I hope you post more

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