Strange Behavior (Illustration) Entry: Mathias Varaste

[gpepper]

animation turns into an illustration Mathias ?

[varma]

Hi everyone!
A little too late to join in? hope not! I wrongfully entered the forum "animation", but after a while, I realised that I had to submit both, instead of either, still image and animation there! Then after contacting the FAQ thread, (Thanks Mibus!), I was allowed to reenter the right forum, here!
There are so many fantastic and very inspirational threads in this forum, I always watch!
Really a joy to be here amongst you, talented CGtalkers!
So I will make a few rapid posts and bring all my images over here, sorry about the flooding
for a couple of days!

:)

mat

[varma]

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The concopt is about a whale, which gets stranded upon an Island, waiting for the next tide, which might put it back to the sea, but then it gets spotted by the people leaving on that Island!
Instead of helping him back to water, they throw a party and ...

[varma]

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Fire and sand!
I used nurbs primitives for the fire with a ramp shader applied, sparks are tiny single polygons with the same material as the fire!

[varma]

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Female base mesh!

[varma]

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First dancer, Linda!

[varma]

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Cassey

[varma]

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cassey, textured and lit

[varma]

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joaquim

[varma]

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Joaquim and vigdis

[varma]

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Whale

[varma]

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Whale

[varma]

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detailed

[varma]

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textured and lit

[mdavid]

Wow! You work fast! ;)

No seriously, welcome to the illustration side of the fence. I have no doubt that your wonderful stuff will be right at home here too. I guess this will free you up to focus on doing one brilliant still image. I'm looking forward to that

[varma]

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Whale In the scene!

[varma]

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sea, closeup!

[varma]

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Some vegetation!

[varma]

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Arnulf!

[varma]

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Thomas and Andreas, the twin brothers!

[varma]

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Vilje

[varma]

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Vilje and Peter

[varma]

Hei Mark and thanks for a warm welcome! The grass is really greener on this side of the "fence", but I moved over here to be closer to your thread, so I can study your style with better eyes, at close range!
Cheers! :thumbsup:

[Dmacb]

Hi brother!

Just to tell you that I'm now in here also, just to watch... be cool and good luck!

[varma]

Maaac!
I knew you would find me, obviously there is no place I could hide! :rolleyes:
Thanks brother, knowing that you are with me on this, gives me more motivation!
Hope The result is pleasing enough, when that time comes!
Keep shining!
:thumbsup:

[Nemesix]

Simply awesome! I will have an eye on this. Best Luck!

[mdavid]

I'm still amazed by that beautiful hair you've managed to create in your characters. All your characters are looking superb. The only suggestion I could make would be to perhaps make Vilje's waist a little bit thicker when viewed from the side.

[varma]

Nemesix;
Thanks Zara! I'm glad you liked the work so far!
:)

Mark;
thanks a lot mate, I'm glad you like those characters, wish I could do a cartoony version of
each, "mdavid way"!
Very sharp observation about Vilje's waist, I wasn't aware of this glitch, will fix it right away,
Thanks for the tip!
:thumbsup:

[Nennad]

Hi Varma and WOW now for the first time i saw the whale in environment and it looks really wonderfull, very dark/north stylish! And almost Biblical! I wonder what will be the angle for your final shot, and compostion: i guess there must be much greater resolution fur ammunt of things you modeled for the scene! Best luck in illustration contest! :thumbsup:

[varma]

Thanks Nenad for the comment! I'm still working on the environment and overall atmosphere
of the scene, will have the results ready soon!
Thanks for stopping by!
:)

[varma]

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Some props

[varma]

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- so, so, poor little thing! She said, and started humming the only lullaby song she knew, as a couple of tears rolled down her pink cheeks!

[varma]

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Aleks, the kid

[varma]

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Selma

[varma]

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Textured and lit

[varma]

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Musicians

[Gunilla]

Wow, those are some really beautiful models. And I agree, they deserve a highres so continuing here is a good idea.

Renate is really sweet - so heartbreaking. You seem trully inspired with this one :)

[Dmacb]

:bounce:POST POST POST :bounce:

Be cool man!!!

[mdavid]

The posing of the characters continues to impress me - some of it is so real it's spooky

[varma]

Gunilla; Thanks G, I'm really glad you liked the work so far! Renate was my favorite
character too, because she is so sensitive and unselfish!
The biggest render I can run without crash is 2700 by 1800, even at that size
characters are hardly bigger than already posted, but of course they were supposed
to be a small part of a bigger happening, not the main attraction, although I could
render separate scenes with them later on, like render region, and a few turntables!
:deal:

mac; Ola amigo! I'm rendering the scene in full resolution now, which takes very long
time for every render, about 6 minutes, and then making changes and render again,
trying to make it all hang together, with some changes in colors and lighting! My
primary goal is to get a descent lighting, will post very soon, promise!
Be well, man
:)

Mark; Thansk a lot, mate! All women and child characters so far has been modelled
based on true persons, with some small modifications! I think this has helped me a bit
in getting the personalities reasonably right, or at least I hope!
cheers!
:)

[varma]

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Eirik, the stonecutter!

[Ferx]

Hey Mathias, woooooow, really great concept, i like a lot, you choose the most strange behavior, the human behavior, really really great!! and i love all the characters and models, nice mate, and a cool mood for your scene!! in one word: awesome!! Cheers!! :beer:

[johnstrieder]

This is sooooooooooooooo extreme ...!!!
Nice modelling! Good Luck to you!

[varma]

Thanks a lot Ferx and js3d! I'm really glad you guys liked it so far, and thanks for the
nice comments!
:thumbsup:

[musi]

Hi Mathias,

Looks like a nice concept! It's really the biggest strangeness of human beings: kill and eat instead of help... They do it pretty often against each other too, you know, well, not literally...

Very good modeling you show here! :thumbsup: Some good poses too. I wonder to see how the whole composition will look!

[ICHOMA]

hey" I think this is not funny, represent this kind of violencce against animals is not a theme for a Chalenge.

Sorry if I am rude.

regards

[varma]

Hei musi and thanks a lot! Yeah, instead of help! You pinned it right!
:thumbsup:

[varma]

Hei ICHOMA;
Often times, a visual presentation, or audio for that matter, will include hints or hidden messages, not quite obvious at first glanse, sometimes even unreadable without an attached description or a title! I was under the impression, and hoping, that mine was easy to read, judging from the "strange" behavior of characters involved! Apparently I was wrong!
But you should know that this image was not intended to ba a fun image at all, quite the opposite! Without going political with this, I would dare to say that this was a piece of imagery to actually condemn certain behavior! I leave the rest to you, reading between the lines and getting my point!
The comments you may read here, and the replies to them, are only based on the technical aspect of the workflow involved, like meshes, texturing, lighting and so on! I'm sure no one likes to see any animal or a living organism being hurt or injured!
If you still feel uncomfortable about this, please let me know, then I can post you a mail or PM to discuss this matter some more, or there are specific forums here at CGSosiety, like "CG general disscussion", where it's more appropriate to debate on such stuff!
Thanks!
:)

[musi]

MAURICIO, permit me to defend Mathias here.
I don't think that any strange behavior is funny, some behaviours are very ugly and rude and yet very strange in their ugliness... Nowhere in the description of the challenge stays that it should be funny, so Mathias is not breaking any rules by selecting one of those ugly strange behaviours for his illustration.
I actually guess he does it to pull attention to those kind of things, not to laugh at them...

And I agree with you on one point: this is not funny at all.

[varma]

Thanks Sasha for the extra input and willingness to back me up on this! I truely appreciate!

:thumbsup:

And you are right, my intention was solely to raise awareness about this line of action!
Keep cool!
:)

[Nemesix]

I'm really enjoying this one a lot!:) Go on, well done!

[mdavid]

I can understand how this might not at first appear to be 'strange behavior' but after following this one from the beginning I'm another one who's fully satisfied that it meets the definition beautifully. As I understand it, there is the killing of the whale, but there is also the dancing and other social/ritual things going on around the whale, which I've interpreted as being a major part of this scene. If I was watching all this happening in real life I am sure I would find a lot of what is going on very strange indeed. The characters in the scene are themselves a bit strange and seemingly very much affected by the harsh world they occupy. I'm enjoying watching this work progress :thumbsup:

[Dmacb]

Hi Mat!

Great stonecutter!!! Excelent pose! And lovely axe... :thumbsup:

Of course this isn't a cool thing (the killing of whales) but let's summ this up:

- first and foremost, as Varma said, I'm here to discuss meshes, lights, textures and so on...
- second, if I read the story correctly, the whale come ashore. They ight even tried to help her out but being so poor and needy maybe they were unable to do it. If so... would you starve or eat it? Maybe thank the gods that they sent you a huge meal that would help your entire village. And saying thanks to the whale for allowing them to live.
It's not a crime to kill to survive. We are all brothers and sisters even to the animals and all make part of a chain. Think of this... And say thanks the next time you kill or eat something... the animal died for you to live, has you will do one day...

- Third... sorry if this is to heavy but... sometimes we like to think that we are really civilized and all... but it very easy to break that tarnish... we should be in contact and in peace with the earth...

AND LET'S TALK POLYS AND CG MAN!!! Keep up Mat you're doing great!!!

[varma]

Zara, Mark and mac; Thanks a lot guys for such splendid support and pushup!
I'm really glad you are with me on this, there has been a real struggle lately to
put things together, so your support really warms me up and motivates me!
You are great!
:thumbsup:

[Dmacb]

Goliath online...

:twisted:

Keep up man!!!

[varma]

yeeeeah!
:bounce:
"Give me some shoes!"
:wip:

[varma]

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background tree

[varma]

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background tree

[Dmacb]

Hi man!!!

Nice trees! But... :banghead::banghead::banghead: you're teasing us!!!

When can we see the final image??? More Posts (eheheh... now it feels nice to be out... I can be pushy...)

Keep up man!!!

[mdavid]

Whoah! You do trees well too! Excellent stuff :thumbsup:

[varma]

mac;
Thanks a lot man! Sorry about the delay, but the final render is just around the corner,
any day now! I'm adding some small details and color corrections right now!
Keep shinig, bro!
:wip:

Mark;
Thank you very much! I'm really glad you liked it! Your comment warms me up!
:thumbsup:

[Jassar]

Amazing updates ^_^ .... keep um coming!

[varma]

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"Not again," thought the Whale, "but it's ok, people helped me back into ocean last time I was stranded, so I just lay here and save my breath, they will find me soon enough!"

A few hours later ...


Higher resolution (http://features-temp.cgsociety.org/gallerycrits/94617/94617_1195631040_large.jpg)

[varma]

Greetings!
I would like to take a minute and thank everyone who has been patient enough to
follow through this journey with me! Your constant support and very helpful comments
has provided me the right motivation and joy!
I hope you approve the last render!
It was intended to be viewed at 1700 x 800, so please feel free and click the link for
bigger image!
Thanks!
:)

mat

[Dmacb]

:buttrock:Your Image rocks!!!

Nice painterlly effect and a very well designed and achieved scene!!! A true (in our modern days...) "Strange Behaviour"...

You know what my desktop now has on it? This amazing image!!!:applause:

Be cool and rock on!!!

[varma]

Hey mac!
Thanks a lot my friend! Your being there all the way from the start has meant a lot to me
and made this journey much easier! I really appreciate all your support and constructive
comments and critique throughout this and other projects!
You're the man!!!
:applause:

[Gunilla]

Well, well, well ... what a faboulous final you've come up with. Big congrats!
I like the mood in the scene a lot, and it's been so fun watching your progress here.
:)

[mdavid]

Hey congratulations. It's great to see it all come together. I agree with Gunilla - it's been a lot of fun watching this develop

[Ferx]

Hey Mathias, wooooww !! I love your image!! beautiful !! You have a great concept (and like i say before: the most strange behavior of all, the human behavior :) ) and the excution of it tell in a wonderful way your idea, really really amazing mate!! The atmosphere and enviroment of your scene its simply awesome ! I love all the details on it!! A great art work my friend!!

Congratulations Mathias!! and good luck!! ( And it is an honor to have participated in a challenge with someone from your great talent :) ) Cheers !! (time for a well deserved cold beers and some big shots of tequila :D ) :beer:

[varma]

Gunilla;
Big thanks to you too, for your great comments and support throughout this mission!
I'm really flattered that you liked the final! See you on the next one, I hope, and good
luck with your freelance job!
:thumbsup:

mdavid;
Hey Mark and thank you very much! Coming from a pro like you a an invaluable stimulance!
Cheers a lot, mate!
:)

Ferx;
Mucho gracias Fernando! I'm really speechless, your generous comment almost made me
cry! But I'm not that good, you know, just got lucky with a few render options!
And I accept your tequila offer, and shrimps on me!
:deal:

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