Battle of the 250gb hard drives

[samartin]

jeese, it's just getting mad now... Windows 2005 - HD Space 30Gb, I thought my 80Gb was large...

[eliseu gouveia]

What on earth am I gonna do with 250Gb?
Even with the higher speed, defragmenting these beasts must eat off whole days!

[Array]

Originally posted by eliseu gouveia
What on earth am I gonna do with 250Gb?
Even with the higher speed, defragmenting these beasts must eat off whole days!

You can become the pr0n lord of the internet, or you can stripe them together and do some hd editing :beer:

[coupon]

wake me at 250pb:surprised

[erilaz]

I will only be happy when I have a terabyte hard drive.:)

[kiaran]

It's estimated to take 15 petabyte to hold the type and location (x,y,z) of every cell in the human body. Theoretically one could store this information on a hard drive, then tranfer said information through fiber optics cables to another planet (at the speed of light) and effectivly travel faster then ever thought imaginable!

Wow I sound like a nerd:rolleyes:


Cheers

[samartin]

Originally posted by kiaran
It's estimated to take 15 petabyte to hold the type and location (x,y,z) of every cell in the human body. Theoretically one could store this information on a hard drive, then tranfer said information through fiber optics cables to another planet (at the speed of light) and effectivly travel faster then ever thought imaginable!

Wow I sound like a nerd:rolleyes:


Cheers

aaah but is that for a guy who is 5ft 7" ???

[wedge]

Originally posted by kiaran
then tranfer said information through fiber optics cables to another planet (at the speed of light)

perhaps even faster! i posted a message about this a few months back... some graduate students sent electrons a few hundred yards at speeds MUCH faster than the speed of light. can't remember where i read the article though. probably www.slashdot.org

[danylyon]

Originally posted by kiaran
It's estimated to take 15 petabyte to hold the type and location (x,y,z) of every cell in the human body. Theoretically one could store this information on a hard drive, then tranfer said information through fiber optics cables to another planet (at the speed of light) and effectivly travel faster then ever thought imaginable!

Wow I sound like a nerd:rolleyes:


Cheers

Omg.. that must hurt. :D

[flipnap]

some graduate students sent electrons a few hundred yards at speeds MUCH faster than the speed of light

nothing travels faster than light.. E=MC2.. its not just a good idea, it's the law.

[eudemonie]

in einsteins postulate the light is a constant value and nothing
else is faster, but ... do we know :))

-
eu

[eliseu gouveia]

He´s talking about the experiments a bunch of researchers and students did a few months back where they successfully teleported electrons carrying information, it was all over the news.

[danteort]

nothing travels faster than light.. E=MC2.. its not just a good idea, it's the law.
Except that whole Spooky Action at a Distance thing.

[t-toe]

Originally posted by flipnap
nothing travels faster than light.. E=MC2.. its not just a good idea, it's the law.

well, some scientists are starting to believe that is actually not true, and the way I had it explained to me was as such:

say you're traveling in a car at, say, 80 mph, and obviously, as you're driving you're receiving and bouncing light off your skin. well, that light doesn't seem to drift off behind you, does it? in other words, you don't seem to be a particly mass trailing behind you, right? well, if light couldn't go any faster than the speed of itself, that's what would happen. your image wouldn't be bounced off of your skin accurately enough and you would see visual distortion. some scientists now believe it is actually possible to travel faster than light, and with the example above, that is possibly proven because the light is going the speed of itself PLUS 80 mph to keep the light bouncing off you in an accurate location.

again, though, that's just how I had it explained to me. I don't pretend to know how accurate that example is.

--t.toe

[flipnap]

nah points for effort.. but i can see where your coming from (or where youre goin- ha ha ha:)

First off, the light bouncing off your forehead is still traveling light speed, not any faster. If youre walking on a bus traveling 80 mph, and you are walking 2 mph... your not walking 82 mph.. you are walking 2 mph.. With the light bouncing in the car example, actually, a lag is happening and if you look in the mirror you do see a lag- but light travels at 186,000 miles a second so the lag is pretty unnoticable by human standards (kinda like the hour hand on your watch is moving but you cant see it) If you could stand on the sun right now with a telescope strong enough to see earth, you be watching in real time what happened eight minutes ago.

i think the main problem is that we as humans live in time. we are intrinsically (sp?) entwined with time and cannot live outside of it (in spirit maybe but thats another topic). The problem is that time has actual physical properties; like water does. The second problem is that time, space and movement are all tied together and you dont get more out of one with out taking some from the others, hence E=MC2. And the faster something travels, the slower time moves for that thing (particle human etc) and this has been proven in particle accelerators. the closer you get to the speed of light the slower time goes, so in essence, something moving at the speed of light will be frozen in time and hence cannot travel any faster. And warping space does not constitute speed increase either.

but then theres string theory and a whole slew of things to try and tie the problems of quantum mechanics and general relativity together.

YAY boring physics posts!!!! Its animation break time for me.....

[Joviex]

Actually here is some evidence that the constant in the E=mc^2 equate may not be some constant.

http://edition.cnn.com/2002/WORLD/asiapcf/auspac/08/07/australia.lightspeed/

As a side note, I love when people try to bring up theories to prove something which they themselves have no proof. Very good. If you have some evidence the rest of the world has missed, which states it is IMPOSSIBLE to go beyond the speed of said constant c, please share, I am sure some phyisicists would be most interested.

[Array]

Originally posted by kiaran
It's estimated to take 15 petabyte to hold the type and location (x,y,z) of every cell in the human body. Theoretically one could store this information on a hard drive, then tranfer said information through fiber optics cables to another planet (at the speed of light) and effectivly travel faster then ever thought imaginable!

Wow I sound like a nerd:rolleyes:


Cheers

no...you would not travel, you would just send a copy of yourself.

[Agent D]

Originally posted by Array
no...you would not travel, you would just send a copy of yourself.

Which brings up the question: Would you commit suicide in order to create a double of yourself somewhere else? It wouldn't be YOU on the other end.

Anyway, that won't work, what about your brain? Trying to get your brain in the right order would add an almost infinite level of complexity.

[flipnap]

The fact that the speed of light is slowing down is inconsequential to the fact that movement and time are connected and you will eventually reach a speed where time will stop and you cannot go forward. Okay, so maybe its 185 not 186 thousand miles per second. Point is, there is a universal limit to speed. And as far as proof, wheres the proof for half of the theories we are currently entertaining. We have shot particles through accelerators at 98 % the speed of lite and seen their lifespand dramatically increase because of it. And amorano, your comment about loving it when people try to prove theories they have no proof of- were you talking about me or the article you linked to? Either way, this is a light hearted conversation about some way off topic. None of here are physicists, including yourself, so before you go getting pissy on people just remember that were all just taking a render break - no ones going after a nobel prize - sheesh, lighten up...

[Psyhke]

Hey, I think time is speeding up in this thread! We went from an announcment of a hard drive to a fight about the ultimate limits of physical reality in just a page and a half. Cool! :scream:

[Howzat]

You wouldn't want any packet loss if you were transferring yourself to the moon... or else you might get there and realise you've lost your err... packet.

[coupon]

large harddrives --- discussion on special theory of relativity, next on cgtalk, the latest radeon graphic cards and their relation to darwinian evolution, and a special indepth look at longhorn and quantum physics

[Unwanted_Pain]

I read somewhere, that if you change the spin of particle
you instantly change the spin of its twin particle no matter where it is in space.

thats faster than the speed of light!

I think the book is called paradigms regained?

[parallax]

an atomic bomb works, hence, E=MC^2 works.

[aurora]

I think you guys need to get back to CG talk and skip the physics till you have more classes/ studying under your tonque. First, the electrons NEVER traveled faster then light, a propagation wave did, not the same thing and no it does not violate Einstiens laws. Second, changing spin on one electron and seeing the same effect say 50 meters away has nothing to do with speed but with quantum pairing/entanglement.
On the lighter side and back to CG. Creightons Timeline dealing with these topics has released a trailer, I saw it on ET Tonight and need to find the web version. Nice SciFi story with great CG.

Now if I only knew how this relates to hard drives. Oh yeah, my dad helped design and transition and then gold test the new Maxtor drives. Hot Hot Hot, then they laid the almost the entire department off. They all now work for either Seagate or Quantum (who is owned by Maxtor now.) Look forward to hot new stuff from Seagate and Quantum in the near future. By the way for you investors, don't invest heavily in Maxtor they only have one new product line and nobody to transition to production and very few R&D's left for future dev.

[Marcel]

say you're traveling in a car at, say, 80 mph, and obviously, as you're driving you're receiving and bouncing light off your skin. well, that light doesn't seem to drift off behind you, does it?

I don't think you would notice that effect: your car is going 40 metres a second and the light 300.000.000 metres a second. :)

[flipnap]

The Answer To ALL Your Questions (http://www.monobrow.com/monomovies/movie-03.html)

[aurora]

Man, I always thought the answer to Life the universe and just everything was 42.

[erik2003]

.... :surprised :surprised
How in the world would they measure a deviation of the speed of light over just a few 100 yards? With what clock/timing device?


I think the rule was that information can't travel faster than the speed of light either... The propagation wave when for instance building a traffic jam goes much faster than the speed of a car. The propagation wave disturbing a chain of photons may go faster than the photons.

Why can't we send signals with that? I seem to remember it has to do with basic information theory : a signal is a deviation from random noise that occurs in a certain pattern. Is it that we can't send meaningful patterns through propagation waves? Why not?

If you would instantaneously change the spin of a particle 10 lightyears away by changing it's entangled particle over here, then you

a. would have to get the entangled particle over there in the first place (yes, shipping it)
b. would have no way of knowing if it worked without going back and checking

but it would be a cool idea if there would be such particles/comms devices set up!

There should be a catch here somewhere... what is it?

My brain leaks physics i guess... I stopped pouring new stuff in and now it has emptied...

By the way: i thought that the speed of light was constant by definition, because of the relativity of the viewpoint

[aurora]

erik2003 you rock, man:beer:
I still need to get back with you on the AI stuff. I've been getting ready to start a new storryboard app and have a few other personal things to deal with. I would still love to chat with you about it sometime though.

[danteort]

Originally posted by erik2003

If you would instantaneously change the spin of a particle 10 lightyears away by changing it's entangled particle over here, then you

a. would have to get the entangled particle over there in the first place (yes, shipping it)
b. would have no way of knowing if it worked without going back and checking

but it would be a cool idea if there would be such particles/comms devices set up!


Well, I would guess that if you're in a position to be sending particles 10 light years away, then you've probably verified that it works over shorter distances.

[aurora]

Oh yeah its been done many many times, over a few kilometers. True not all that far but you are talking labs and both ends perfectly in synch with each other. Which is no small trick since our not so good friend Heisenberg still rules.

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