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davidcarvalho
08-30-2007, 01:52 AM
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Title: A room with a touch
Name: david carvalho
Country: Portugal
Software: 3ds max, Photoshop

When asked to do a room with a classical decoration this is what came out.
This was modeled and textured in 3dsmax and pos production done in photoshop.

Comments are most welcome.

Destrega
08-30-2007, 09:02 AM
That looks really great and has a nice warm atmosphere, it reminds me of a noble hotel room.
-- 4 stars from me;)

Very good work, which render did you use? Looks like Vray

cam10solo
08-30-2007, 09:14 AM
v good modelling, v realistic lighting, i v likey :)
if you could post a wire with lighting setup would very much appreciated.

imonfox
08-30-2007, 12:49 PM
Wow David , very nice render. I like the atmosphere that you created. Lighting is very clean and realistic. Good models. Compliments.
Ciao

squarepixelstudio
08-30-2007, 01:58 PM
really an exellent work !congrats :) 4 stars !

rockmetalray
08-30-2007, 02:12 PM
nice render, but isn't a lot of those models library models? u shouldnt take credit for that...correct me if Im wrong, but...

Caine607
08-30-2007, 04:47 PM
wow great job! this is one of the best interiors i've seen for quite awhile.

luzak1
08-30-2007, 11:13 PM
Hey man,I don't know what to say-this is outrageous!
You're a god-this is like real-no mistakes.
I WISH I COULD GIVE YOU 6 STARS

Vexona
08-31-2007, 01:32 AM
amazing. I clicked on the image to see Highres and didnt expect it to be that good up close, was super. 5 stars

killer-instinct93
08-31-2007, 03:12 AM
Very realistic, terrific work. What is it going to be used for?

KrakenCMT
08-31-2007, 07:13 PM
Superb!

For me, the only thing that gives this away as CG is the white bedcover being a bit too stiff/perfect looking. Everything else is flawless!

_david
09-01-2007, 12:16 AM
s-weeeeet! great atmosphere. room flooded with light. wanna lay in this bed!!

is it a photo? ;)

great piece!

OZAKI00
09-01-2007, 01:15 AM
oh man!

DO NOT POST THE PICTURE :applause:

its really realistic !

4 * for me

Anamorphic
09-06-2007, 09:00 PM
Awesome work david! Naturally lit spaces are so hard to achieve but you've nailed it!:thumbsup:

Murphz
09-07-2007, 02:05 AM
Superb!

For me, the only thing that gives this away as CG is the white bedcover being a bit too stiff/perfect looking. Everything else is flawless!

I Agree a nice messed up bed or something would add a bit of character and pull the viewer in a bit more .. add a little story you know however small..but credit to such a great light set up .. really fantastic..!!

If I could fault the picture I would say give the lamp shades eithier side of the bed a non-conspicuous texture. a light design... just to make them stand out from the illuminace of the window background, because the lighting suggests they are not on but they still omit a glow..
...Vray is it.. it did'nt say? but It does have the tendancy to have this effect near the windows of over brilliance.. would be great to see a night scene of the same scene, mabe with the messed up bed.. only a thought.. would addto an already strong portfolio piece..

But hey this is just nit picking.. really great render made me stop and stare ..

Molier
09-07-2007, 07:27 AM
Very good model and nice lighting :thumbsup:

thejudge07
09-08-2007, 12:54 AM
Very good job with the render. Looks very real and impressive. Keep up the good work!

Jorge

jofximus
09-08-2007, 03:35 PM
I like the lighting and the mood of this piece if anything though the room looks too pristine. Personally I would like to see some ruffled sheets or the furniture slightly disorganized.

ktxed
09-09-2007, 12:43 AM
I love the lightning and the overall feel you meant to accomplish! 5 Stars dude :)
(the bed cloth needed more tweaking, also I think the fov is slight too big)

davidcarvalho
09-10-2007, 01:58 AM
Thanks for the critics,

And answering some of the questions, this peace was done with Vray, and with a occlusion pass to better define some of the details. My principal concern was in the lighting, i wanted to give the sensation of a room frozen in time. I would liked to had more time to explore more on the lighting and in the details, but with the time frame of a few days to do this, it was a little impossible. I'll try to use some of our ideas in future works.

jojo1975
09-11-2007, 10:23 AM
Very Good image, but may I ask if you modelled everything. I can see a lot of similarities with evermotion archmodels (lamps, chairs...) so just curious what did you model..
jojo

Bor1s
09-13-2007, 11:34 AM
This looks perfect!I don't think I can tell the difference between it and a photo...can anyone?
Can you give me more technical details like texture size,render time and polycount?
5 stars from me!I hope you improve someday if that is possible.

Lugh000
09-13-2007, 10:30 PM
A quick note to everyone that said that the bed sheet was too stiff and that the lamps were not quait perfect. If I read between the lines correctly, this was a project with a deadline, which leads me to believe that it might be a paid project. In these situations, there is a fixed amount of time allotted and a fixed budget. As much as the artist wants to keep tweaking (unless s/he wants to do it on their own time) when the time is up and the Client says "Approved" - the work is over. Onward to the next project. At least that is how it works in the real world.

And also - there is no crime to use stock models. Again, why re-invent the wheel and charge the Client quadruple for the time it takes to model something when it can be purchased from a third party place and have the project delivered on time.

Woogy
09-14-2007, 12:09 PM
I like your Picture.

Thumps up.

LG
Woogy

n1nosantos
09-15-2007, 01:35 AM
I'm new to the forum and to the 3d world... But, anyway, this huge amount of quality on this scene is really quite inspiring... David, keep up the excellent work and... Viva Portugal!

mysteriousthief
09-15-2007, 04:46 PM
This is what I call luxury

jojo1975
09-15-2007, 07:48 PM
there is nothing wrong using stock models ..but... I think that for getting a CGaward people should clearly say what'it has done and what's not ...because as you can read there from a lot of comments there a lot of peoiple that probably believe that the model are not stock models but have been modelled by the author.. (wow perfect modelling and great lighintgs..) for the lighiing I can say ok.. but if for modelling you use stock photos for me there is a huge penalty in voting.. are we voting for photographies here or for complete work of art ? I just dont' get the point.. let's take this to the extreme... if I take the obj from standfords reposiotry of Michelangelo's David, i apply a perfect shared or marble (why not a fancy SSS super veiny shader), i pose three lights, and then click render.. will I win a cgaward ? if the anser is yes i will start downloading michelangelo model today :D
that is my two cents.
Again I express my positive judgement to this wonderful image but also say that if there is no modelling that should be taken in consideration

artiss2k
09-16-2007, 06:10 PM
man i almost couldn't tell it wasn't real. this is excellent work.

CaptainCard
09-16-2007, 10:47 PM
there is nothing wrong using stock models ..but... I think that for getting a CGaward people should clearly say what'it has done and what's not ...because as you can read there from a lot of comments there a lot of peoiple that probably believe that the model are not stock models but have been modelled by the author.. (wow perfect modelling and great lighintgs..) for the lighiing I can say ok.. but if for modelling you use stock photos for me there is a huge penalty in voting.. are we voting for photographies here or for complete work of art ? I just dont' get the point.. let's take this to the extreme... if I take the obj from standfords reposiotry of Michelangelo's David, i apply a perfect shared or marble (why not a fancy SSS super veiny shader), i pose three lights, and then click render.. will I win a cgaward ? if the anser is yes i will start downloading michelangelo model today :D
that is my two cents.
Again I express my positive judgement to this wonderful image but also say that if there is no modelling that should be taken in considerationNo no, its not photos its premade models bought from an online store, its mostly CGI, (hdri and stuff maybe not)

bzouchir
09-17-2007, 06:53 AM
if I take the obj from standfords reposiotry of Michelangelo's David, i apply a perfect shared or marble (why not a fancy SSS super veiny shader), i pose three lights, and then click render.. will I win a cgaward ? if the anser is yes i will start downloading michelangelo model today :D


mate you make lighting and rendering sound almost as easy as "posing 3 lights and clicking render" :D
start downloading and get it that good and take all our votes ;)

Most the visualization industry if not all, relies on using stock models, reference and textures. Being able to model a lamp is not much of a task really! time vs budget that's all that is.

Brilliant rendering dav

jojo1975
09-17-2007, 08:28 AM
Of course I know that lighting is not a simple task (since I've partecipated to 4 lighting competition and wrote 7 tutorials about lighting and materials ;)
Just in my opinion for a CGaward, modelling, lighting, rendering, and why not composing should be all "original" just an opinion. and again I say wonderful rendering. I really like this image

claudiasutton
09-20-2007, 12:14 AM
Wow,
The lighting is amazing.
5 Stars

heluva
09-23-2007, 06:08 AM
just amazing modelling the light above the bed must have taken some time

Tuor
09-25-2007, 06:49 PM
I'm so impressed by the realism you can have with 3D software ! This room is magic, such a quiet place, and such beautiful and soft light !
As I use Photoshop for 2D pictures, I was wondering what did you exactly do with this software ?

mkirylo
09-25-2007, 11:45 PM
Of course I know that lighting is not a simple task (since I've partecipated to 4 lighting competition and wrote 7 tutorials about lighting and materials ;)
Just in my opinion for a CGaward, modelling, lighting, rendering, and why not composing should be all "original" just an opinion. and again I say wonderful rendering. I really like this image

I have never seen any rules for winning a CGaward posted anywere. this idea of artwork having to be all original is kinda silly alot of the matte paintings on here have elements of stock photos in them.

setting up the materials and lighting for this scene in my opinion takes alot more work then modeling any of these models all of the models in the room are faily simple to create. and i am sure the evermotion stuff does not come with preaplied vray materials i may be wrong.

jojo1975 you are making yourself look bad with these post.

"whaaa why does he get an award its not fair"

jojo1975
09-26-2007, 12:32 PM
Well I feel sad because NO ONE seemed to read my post. I've posted 5 times that I like this image. I only posted that IN MY OPINION it's now enough for getting an award that's all. Is there already democracy there or all comments should be
"Oh great how cool !!" ?
Evermotion comes WITH materials applied ! and also TEXTURES and also if you use archinteriors comes with EVERYTHING !! (lights etc etc). I've posted and image too, of course is not beautiful as this one, but it was clearly stated what I've done and what not ands fort the sixth time I I WROTE I LIKE THIS IMAGE!!

I love EVERY THING in 3d and so I know how much it takes to model, how much to put lights and how much to render. There are lots of interior of good quality around but that's what they are for me they are ART to be put in a CGAward gallery have a look at evermotion site for example with a special gallery for interiors)

I'm very sad that an honest critique has not been appreciated and also please count how many people commeting this post wrote "PERFECT MODELLING" !
Honor to the winner but I hope that ALL opinion are still valuable there

Skywatcher
09-26-2007, 12:49 PM
I'm with jojo1975 on this. Nice render but you can't take credit for modeling if it's just
stock models. If you post an image you should be clear on what you did on it.

miennau
09-27-2007, 12:15 PM
Very good, thanks

ivankio
09-27-2007, 06:03 PM
Jojo, I agree that it would be very good to see the references to everything. In particular I would give my right arm to understand the filtering that rendered the rug and the antialiasing. Others would love to understand the lighting technique, and others would like to see references on post production methods. It's a tough world.

But you shouldn't say that one doesn't deserve an award for using stock models. Soon we would have to award only images that where fully scripted, and haven't used a single tool or a photo reference for texture.

On another parallel: producer is one of the main holes on a film, even if he didn't act, shoot, crafted or served coffe for the staff. On movies there is plenty of space for credits, but even on this condition they doesn't say a word about Autodesk for it's effects software (which does not mention Alias which...), or ikea for it's furniture.

I would like to use the space to thank René Descartes for the cartesian coordinate system. :love:


Yup, it's not an HTM world. I share the same desire as you, Jojo, but ignorance is needed - and is not an ugly word.

Pejrak
09-28-2007, 09:56 PM
i like the overall luxury of the image.

I would like to point out some crits:
1. The shadow does not seems too soft behind the pic above the bed
2. The pictures and its frames seem a bit flat without much dimension to them
3. The engravings on the furniture seem to me a bit too distinct, maybe that the bump map could have a bit of bias at the edges

However, I have been off the 3d for some time, so take it easy... good work ;)

Peace!

DigitalConfushun
09-29-2007, 02:33 PM
This is a good rendering. I give it three stars. The lighting is good, but could use some softening of the shadows. You may also want to tweak the intensity throughout the image, for the volumetric lighting is getting lost in the brightness. You could probably use a little variation in the textures as well. All of the picture frames have the same texture and mapping on it. I also believe the carving in wood stands out a bit too much, and drives the eye directly to the night stands. Perhaps separate passes for reflection, specularity, and diffuse would help. You really need to be able to tweak these element separately. I have worked in the Arch Viz business for three years now, and I think that any client would be happy to receive a finished rendering of this quality.
I agree you need to use stock models sometimes to save time/money, and it sounds like the artist had a very short deadline. I prefer to only use models out of my personal library that I've created over the years to avoid such critques. It's simple to create a furniture library. Open up a furniture magazine, pick a piece, model for an hour a night, and in no time you will have a model library that will rival any online store.

As for the award, then I have to agree with JoJo. Personally, I would have redesigned the interior with my own furniture creations, then I would have posted the image for an award consideration. When you work on any type of project you must give credit to whom ever may have worked on the project (Not the 3D program though. That is a necessity to create the image). If I only did the lighting on a project, then I can't (In good moral standing) take credit for everything. If you say any different, then you are a immoral thief of someone else art/hard work. If I ever took total credit for a team collaboration I would expect to receive a letter from a lawyer at any minute. On the same note, if you apply for job you must give credit where credit is do. In fact employers (myself included) demand it. We have fired two people this year alone for submitting art work they said was theirs in entirety. Only to find out it was a lie. I do believe you should have to create everything in a scene yourself to win an award, unless it is a specialized competition. (ie: lighting competition, texture competition, ect.)

Good work though, and keep it up.

Aran-Pirayandeh
10-04-2007, 01:17 PM
I love interior design works.

Syamasundar
10-04-2007, 02:57 PM
Very nice pic. But I think in real it will be better even

coulour
10-06-2007, 03:12 PM
very good! I like this photo!

davidcarvalho
10-10-2007, 08:13 PM
First of all thanks to all the coments again,

And i see the use of library models is a sensitive point in this forum.
I agree with your point of view, in particular with the point of view of Joshua Ratliff, i did this image with a particular short deadline, but the right thing to do before subscripting this image would be to remodel all the library model, and for that i am sorry. I promise for my future take this in account.

Inxa
10-11-2007, 04:17 AM
Amazing render.

Great colors there, the floor looks pretty to break the cream and dark tones. Lovely.
4 stars.

Vray work :) Is it.

Idealspace888
10-11-2007, 07:54 AM
I like it ! It's wonderful!

fahadkhan
10-13-2007, 12:06 PM
You Done A Amazing Job ...

KoraggTheKnightWolf
10-14-2007, 05:41 PM
thats a very nice bedroom there

imnum
10-18-2007, 11:13 AM
very nice!

ws466
10-21-2007, 03:33 AM
Gooooood Wooooork

C4DARAB
10-27-2007, 12:17 AM
Very good work

PedroMalheiro
10-28-2007, 12:33 PM
look great....amazing job its just great!!

im portuguese to :D

BerTiN03
11-03-2007, 09:54 PM
Very great render, very realistic and very warm atmosphere.

But i don't agree, for the lightning. It's a clear, realistic, and beautiful lightning, but not unbelievable ! 3 Areas, good Vray using, and that's all. WIth a bit of post-prod in photoshop, not so extraordinary...

I'd better think that what make your render so wonderful is the architectury, the objects placement, and the shaders, which are very clean and fine !


A big Bravo !

paatoo
11-21-2007, 08:47 AM
I'am stunned! It looks so real.
Great work!

IvanMitkowski
12-12-2007, 11:26 PM
this is extremely realistic, looks like a photo, lemme guess... vray? awesome work. this makes you look like a master of lighting , texturing and modeling

riannay
01-05-2008, 03:37 AM
Great work~!So amazing~!

jdog
02-02-2008, 11:55 PM
I think this is a photo:rolleyes:

ha ha, no this is awesome. Truly great work:thumbsup:

TCPortfolio
02-07-2008, 09:50 PM
I WON'T BELIEVE IT UNTIL I SEE THE WIRES! Hahaha, just kidding. This is extremely realistic! I want to get to a point where I can do this kind of work. Thanks for the inspiration. Wonderful modeling, lightning, textureing, and photography...kidding again.

Thanks,
-Trey-

Mnemotonomonic
03-02-2008, 05:50 PM
Great work, stuff like this is a great inspiration for novices like us.... hope we might get the help required :)
I aint qualified enuff to rate you though what others have voted is what i would also like to... Great work

Eihkpah
03-12-2008, 10:24 PM
WOOOOOO that's badass! keep up the good work. :thumbsup:

hongxia
03-31-2008, 05:59 AM
:) The so warm room, clean The so warm room, clean and comfortable, the light is very gentle too, like true, I like, very good works! and comfortable, the light is very gentle too, like true, I like, very good works! http://features.cgsociety.org/gallerycrits/270849/270849_1188435175_medium.jpg (http://features.cgsociety.org/gallerycrits/270849/270849_1188435175_large.jpg)

Title: A room with a touch
Name: david carvalho
Country: Portugal
Software: 3ds max, Photoshop

When asked to do a room with a classical decoration this is what came out.
This was modeled and textured in 3dsmax and pos production done in photoshop.

Comments are most welcome.

swapnilrk
04-03-2008, 06:54 PM
Hi, am very impressed with the clear rendering. Especially that all the different materials have come out to the Best rendering i can ever expect in 3d Max.

anupkumardas
04-27-2008, 03:13 PM
http://features.cgsociety.org/gallerycrits/270849/270849_1188435175_medium.jpg (http://features.cgsociety.org/gallerycrits/270849/270849_1188435175_large.jpg)

Title: A room with a touch
Name: david carvalho
Country: Portugal
Software: 3ds max, Photoshop

When asked to do a room with a classical decoration this is what came out.
This was modeled and textured in 3dsmax and pos production done in photoshop.

Comments are most welcome.

GooD

Most are look alike from evermotion models..
May be you have just textured. and lightS.

What say?

PiPS
02-11-2009, 03:05 PM
Very realistic. Good Work ! (and... viva Portugal)

hat71
04-22-2009, 03:23 AM
good work.........

Fatarion
05-02-2009, 10:29 PM
Very nice.

zbaby
05-03-2009, 10:46 PM
Amazing job! Looks very real! :D

jiyoush
07-24-2009, 04:36 AM
Great render!

must 5...

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