FXWars:16 - Cannonfire

[RobertoOrtiz]

well here is the thing..


If you do accurate recoil, side motions, a good enviroment reaction (Building going KBOOOM!) I dont see why you cant have this.

:)

-R

[Diabolos]

Yes, I will do.

My storyboard, is to have the turret(cannon) rise out of a silo and fire. Recoil, robotic arm motion, cables will be converted to nCloth for movement, environment, and textures are still to come. This is only my progess from Sunday afternoon...

...and thanks for being a sport, and letting me continue.

D,

[Diabolos]

Just testing my rig concept - to see if I got it right. My nCloth is doing crazy stuff - back to the research table - but quick tests with the cables flying around will be a nice touch imo. Have to get it textured before I get too for on the animation - and i need a noce pulse/lightning effect (the whole reason for the project :P)

D,

http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m34/diabolosgermany/th_LTcannonANI.jpg (http://s100.photobucket.com/albums/m34/diabolosgermany/?action=view&current=LTcannonANI.flv)

[kogden]

LOL.......and kids this why we dont drink redbull and do 3d!!.....we get carried away.



but seriuosly i really like the idea! and the cannon is awesome.....though i do hope you wont be using maya lightening :eek: can spot it a mile away.

lol but that what redbull does to you :P

looks great cant wait to see it finished!

[RobertoOrtiz]

OK the voting Thread goes live on Thursday:


FXWARS CANNON FIRE: Post the Final entry (http://forums.cgsociety.org/showthread.php?f=139&t=538109)
-R

[Diabolos]

LOL.......and kids this why we dont drink redbull and do 3d!!.....we get carried away.

lol but that what redbull does to you :P

I wish I could feed it to my LapTop - well I could, but only once....

......and thank you for the encouragement.

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Still rendering :/ it'll be up soon

D,

whew, still no green dot by roberto's profile

[RobertoOrtiz]

Great!
Looking forward to your entry.
-R

[Diabolos]

Well, it was a nightmare. I am not going to muddle up the voting thread with my crappy attempt - but I at least wanted to post the link to show that I tried.

My problems:

I couldn' get the fluid simulations to fire off in sequence no matter what I tried.

The explosions look all the same eventhough they have different settings (using a tut in the learning Maya book). I change volume, gravity, instancing - I don't get it.

The fluids box would not parent to the ship, and took on the scale of the ship - the ship model is scaled wayyy down.

nCloth brought the render to a grinding halt - so I had to delete the node. Maybe I should have used MayaHair on the cables.


...anyway, my hat off to you FX folks - it's not easy - but I will be back.

D,

http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m34/diabolosgermany/th_FX_wars_16.jpg (http://s100.photobucket.com/albums/m34/diabolosgermany/?action=view&current=FX_wars_16.flv)

[kogden]

LOL....one word.......MAYA (said the max fanboy :bounce:)

it wasn't that bad dude !

maybe should have cut it sooner at the end.

I also sympathis with you as at work we are switching to maya...ohh what a learning cliff that is :P the fluids are cool but seem to need far greater tweaking then what fumefx does, but hey for a tool thats years old its alright.

maybe also on the flak puffs, set a key on the transparency so they fade quicker.

Also if you have after effects maybe do a ambient occlusion (AO) pass just on the mesh of the scene, with the AO pass set the sample to lets say 128 or 256, and do either screen or overlay blend layer over the diffuse. hope that made sence :eek:. this might tie the lighting together a little more...well worth it though.

great work dude

[kogden]

ohh also for the AO thing maybe have a quick look see at this.

http://www-viz.tamu.edu/students/bmoyer/617/ambocc/

[Diabolos]

Once again - thank you for the encouragement. I do have After Effects (6.5) and spent most of the weekend trying to change the lightning :P but as you see had no luck. I did not understand the waypoints to connect the lightning with and how you guys match the lightning effect to the perspective. My lightning was always floating around the cannon - quite amusing, but also quite annoying.

Render layers - you are correct, I need to start using these - even on my stills to get better depth and lighting into my renders, but that is exactly why I gave it a shot to hear what I am doing wrong or could do better (my glass of RedBull is half-full). And needed to hear this as it must be quite obvious that no AO was used.

The flak puffs were actually supposed to be explosions on the ship and fade away (stop simulating) on a certain keyframe. For example puff/explosion #2 wasn't supposed to go off until frame 60, and even though it was keyframed and set to start on frame 60, it went off on frame 1 anyway.

Thank you,

D,

I just found this one and turned it into a pdf to view at my liesure:

http://www.tahlniran.com/tutorials/afterEffects/ambOcc_forAE/ambOccforAE_tute.htm

[kogden]

thats a very good example!

i would do test with simple geometry first so you get the hang of it all and you can see what it does.

lol and its good to see your red-bull glass half full!

keep going dude your not far from the mark!

[RobertoOrtiz]

It is time to talk about the current challenge:
LESSONS LEARNED (Cannon fire): Lets TalK! (http://forums.cgsociety.org/showthread.php?f=139&t=544033)

Would love to hear your input

-R

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