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markey2d 08-13-2007, 07:53 AM Hi
my name is mark, i used to post quite reguarly on conceptart.org sktechbook thread, however i decide to move here and start a new sktechbook that is more centered on figurative drawing.
As far as I am concerned I need help and improvement in every area of art.
I am about to begin a Btec National diploma course in september, so i feel this is the right time to be really pushing my art and practising ALOT more.
I have to scan my new drawings but i have a couple still on here that are quite recent.
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markey2d
08-13-2007, 08:06 AM
sorry tryin something. finding it difficult to upload.
markey2d
08-13-2007, 08:20 AM
can i get some help with posting images plz.
TheCrazyDudeSRD
08-14-2007, 10:03 AM
A very nice couple of sketches, Bridgman right?...
You might wanna try photobucket or imageshack(sp?) and use their [img]tag links. I hope it helps...
Rebeccak
08-14-2007, 02:50 PM
Hi markey,
To upload images to CGTalk, you need an image host (which is a bit different from how CA works). :) Here is a tutorial on that process, hope it helps!
http://forums.cgsociety.org/showthread.php?f=177&t=267088
Cheers,
-Rebeccak
markey2d
08-14-2007, 06:49 PM
crazydude- thnx and yes their bridgman studies.
rebecca- thnx for your help and congrats on your feature in imagine FX's 100 new ways to paint.
i will try wat u said thnx.
Rebeccak
08-14-2007, 08:03 PM
markey, thanks for the heads up, I hadn't realized the article was out. :) I'll have to pick it up next time I'm at Border's. With respect to your Bridgeman drawings, I would definitely say to keep that up! Doing master studies like these is really instrumental in learning to draw.
markey2d
08-15-2007, 06:39 AM
just testing out the image hosting
http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd16/markey2d/p77.jpg
http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd16/markey2d/p78.jpg
markey2d
06-06-2008, 10:38 PM
i started this sketch book along time ago but didn't keep to it however after looking at the razz's sketchbook he inspired me to make one too, so her i am.
here are a few pieces of work to kinda reactivate this thread. ( all ref)
here goes...
as you can see i got alot of work to do, and i just turned 17 today.
http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd16/markey2d/selfportraitdigi_bak.jpghttp://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd16/markey2d/musclemanCA.jpg
markey2d
06-06-2008, 10:43 PM
hi,
can u only post 2 images at a time?
and here is a WIP im working on, propably my most abitious piece of work to datehttp://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd16/markey2d/gladiatorCA_bak.jpg.
Rebeccak
06-07-2008, 12:45 AM
Hello there, good to see you inspired by razz, he's a good egg is he not? :) I think you have too much focus on detail, and not enough on underlying structure. I liked your earlier Bridgman studies and would encourage you to focus on those before going into too much surface detail. Check out the work of Glenn Vilppu to see what I mean. I would recommend his beginning Gesture DVD.
anandpg
06-07-2008, 08:35 AM
Hey Mark!! Welcome and Happy Birthday!!:scream:... you've come to the right place!:wise:
I totally agree with Rebecca! Vilppu is the way to go!!:buttrock: (especially that gesture DVD!)
brainwave
06-07-2008, 02:02 PM
hi
i like the guy on the first image (the one with the stretched arms)
keep it on!
markey2d
06-07-2008, 11:50 PM
Rebeccak- yeah Razz is definetly a good egg. and thnx for your advice, im gonna do a load of different studies till im more comfortable with drawing.
anandpg- thnx man :D
brainwave- thnx
well heres the begining of the studies expect alot more i was kinda busy today.
http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd16/markey2d/IMG.jpg http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd16/markey2d/IMG_0002.jpg http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd16/markey2d/IMG_0001.jpg
Rebeccak
06-08-2008, 12:16 AM
Those are nice, esp. that top one - don't lose your focus, keep going in this direction. :)
anandpg
06-08-2008, 06:30 AM
.. don't lose your focus, keep going in this direction. :)
-Exactly what I wanted to say!!:buttrock: You have the makings of a good draftman in you, you have time and youth on your side... practise diligently and you will never regret!!
..like Vivekananda's call to the youth..
Utthishtatha! Jaagratha! Prapya varaan nibodhatha!!(which in Sanskrit means "Wake up! be alert!.. and acquire wisdom from the masters!)http://forums.cgsociety.org/images/icons/icon10.gif
..ok, I will shut up now.. going over-board..!!:D ...but you get the gist of it, I guess..?
markey2d
06-09-2008, 01:38 AM
thnx anandpg and Rebeccak i really appreciate you crits and comments.:love:
im gonna try my best to keep this as daily as possible.
anywho here is some more bridgeman studies and a frank frazetta study.
http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd16/markey2d/IMG-1.jpghttp://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd16/markey2d/IMG_0006.jpg
Rebeccak
06-10-2008, 12:12 AM
Hey there, the first study is stronger. Have I recommended this book (http://www.amazon.com/Vilppu-Drawing-Manual-Glenn/dp/1892053039) to you? I think I've mentioned the DVDs. :) I think underlying structure is what you should go for, as in the Bridgeman studies. Are you able to take any life drawing classes? I think that would be great for you!
markey2d
06-10-2008, 01:38 AM
Rebeccak- unfortunately in london if your school doesn't offer you life drawing (which mine don't) then its really hard to find a place, especially when most artist over here are doin modern, contemporary, throw paint on a wall and call it art. but hopefully when i get to university or college for u guys i can finally get to do some.
i have to use referneces from either imagine FX or the internet and i can do life drawings of people around me.
i definetly want to get that book, by Vilppu, till then gonna have to stick with what i got.
Could you suggest any other ways i could do something kind of equivilant to life drawing?
thnx again.:thumbsup:
studies,studies,studies
http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd16/markey2d/IMG-2.jpghttp://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd16/markey2d/IMG_0002-1.jpghttp://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd16/markey2d/IMG_0001-1.jpg
Could you suggest any other ways i could do something kind of equivalent to life drawing?
Try to convince family and friends to take short posed for you.
If no success with that, there is always a lot of people out on the street, in the park, at school, at work, in the mall... these kind of sketching sessions are very challenging in the beginning and may seem a bit overwhelming because you will be drawing people who are not posing then so speed is the main requirement there... I would emphasize on trying to get the essence of the pose on paper as fast as you can, without too much thinking (there is no time for that). If people walk away or change the pose, and you're not finished yet, either try to add a bit more from memory or pick another subject. Be decisive!
I would also advise, when you've sketched some people and you are left with the feeling that you totally suck (there's a chance this will happen), switch to drawing some architecture (practicing perspective) and nature (trees, plants, etc.) or try to find some sculptures in town. Then you can go back to capturing poses of the people around you.
Main thing is that you should see all these as exercises. I hope your work will be giving you satisfaction, but even if you think the quality of your sketches is far below what you expected or hoped, they serve their purpose and you will be a better draftsman with each session.
markey2d
06-10-2008, 05:27 PM
NR43-thnx man thats good advice, gonna try and do that.
more studies.
i tried to do gestures, but don't think it came out too well.http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd16/markey2d/IMG_0003.jpghttp://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd16/markey2d/IMG_0005.jpghttp://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd16/markey2d/IMG_0006-1.jpghttp://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd16/markey2d/Untitled-1.jpg
markey2d
06-10-2008, 10:31 PM
don't worry guys this is not the first of many, this is something i started that i just wondered back into. im gonna leave it here and not go any further cause i need to focus on studies. but it has helped me get rid of my fear of doing environments.http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd16/markey2d/firstenvironmentCA.jpg
markey2d
06-11-2008, 09:51 AM
does anyone think it ios worth me doing studies from doctor bone and his book of bones? i really like that stuff but im not sure if it will benefit me.
updates are on their way!:p
markey2d
06-14-2008, 12:43 PM
my scanner is not connected at the moment so i havent been able to update but i have a digital scrible. master study, im sure you've seen a thousand times. not finish yet.
http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd16/markey2d/DavidCA.jpg
markey2d
06-14-2008, 11:05 PM
vilppu studies for the FTW!!!
http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd16/markey2d/IMG-3.jpghttp://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd16/markey2d/IMG_0002-2.jpghttp://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd16/markey2d/IMG_0003-1.jpghttp://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd16/markey2d/IMG_0004.jpghttp://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd16/markey2d/IMG_0005-1.jpghttp://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd16/markey2d/IMG_0006-2.jpghttp://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd16/markey2d/IMG_0007.jpghttp://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd16/markey2d/IMG_0008.jpghttp://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd16/markey2d/IMG_0009.jpghttp://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd16/markey2d/IMG_0010.jpg
Rebeccak
06-14-2008, 11:22 PM
Very nice. :)
anandpg
06-15-2008, 06:26 AM
Hey Markey!! I can see that Vilppu is making a difference for you..! I would actually like to see more stuff along the lines of that first image on the last post. There is a lot more energy and confidence in those loose lines!
Keep up the good work!!:thumbsup:
markey2d
06-16-2008, 04:11 PM
thnx guys!
digital portrait of my brother, about 2hours maybe alittle less.http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd16/markey2d/edwardportraitlifeCA.jpg
Hey there
I'm gonna give you the comment people have given me an aweful lot of times already (and I still forget about it sometimes):
Push those values if you can... go darker in your dark tones and brighter in the highlights.
It will give more volume.
A good trick to see if you got your values right when drawing from reference (life or photo) is to squint your eyes and search for area's with the same value...
markey2d
06-19-2008, 11:52 PM
NR43- man ur right about the values thing, i get that all the time, and even thought it was in the back of my mind the whole time it jus didn't come through, for some reason.
thnx.
more studies, and a drawing from a virtual pose model i got from imagine FX.
btw what do you guys think about me using these, atleast until i can get some life drawing anyway.
http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd16/markey2d/IMG-4.jpghttp://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd16/markey2d/IMG1.jpghttp://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd16/markey2d/IMG_0001-2.jpg
Rebeccak
06-20-2008, 02:54 AM
Instead of the virtual pose thing, I'd recommend taking photos from www.characterdesigns.com / photosets and doing Vilppu style analyses of the figures in a sketchbook. Try tracing out the basic forms as well as drawing them freehand - essentially, analyze the poses vs. trying to directly copy them. This is a great exercise.
markey2d
06-24-2008, 01:43 AM
Rebeccak- thnx rebecca, i m gonna give that a try.
man i really need to get to everyone elses sketchbooks. get ready for some ass pats everyone.
here is a still life drawing which really shows how bad my drawing skills are at the moment, some random storyboards and a speed painting bout an 1hr, still struggling with values.
http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd16/markey2d/IMG-5.jpghttp://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd16/markey2d/exampleofworkjpg.jpghttp://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd16/markey2d/LionessCA.jpg
markey2d
06-26-2008, 12:09 AM
a little sketch i did from my imagination, had some trouble in the begining but managed to solve them. in terms of anatomy i think its pretty good considering used no refs. i started to remember all the anatomy studies i had done. the lower half of the body is where my anatomy sucks bad, hence the samurai trousers.
crits welcomed as always.http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd16/markey2d/warriorCA.jpg
markey2d
06-26-2008, 12:31 AM
quick update!:)http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd16/markey2d/warriorCA-1.jpg
markey2d
06-26-2008, 10:10 PM
another update need help taking this to the next level.http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd16/markey2d/warriorCA-2.jpg
markey2d
07-01-2008, 08:33 AM
well hers is hopefully the first of many observational drawings. im starting to see that doing alot of these studies will help me draw more confiently and consistently.
i am really bad at observational drawing as you can see so bear with me as i try and get better.http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd16/markey2d/IMG-6.jpg
markey2d
07-01-2008, 01:35 PM
herehttp://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd16/markey2d/IMG_0001-3.jpgs another observational drawing, this one is done quickly. i think i did ok but i still need to up the contrast here and there.
Hi
I wrote a comment after seeing the drawing of that can this afternoon at work but then my browser started acting up so it didn't come through...
I would like you to focus a bit on perspective for a while.
There are some things you should consider when drawing.
Perspective is one of them.
There is many info available in books and probably also on the internet so do some research on it.
Imho what is most important when drawing with perspective is the horizon.
Where is the horizon located within your view?
How does the object you want to draw appear in relation to the horizon?
Where are the vanishing points?
Ask yourself things like that the next time you do these exercises.
And you are right not to focus too much on shading with these kind of sketches.
Keep it up! Doing great!
Intervain
07-02-2008, 01:05 PM
I agree with Rebeccak about Vilppu's techniques - I just started going over all of his dvs and man, they are a revelation! A great one is #10 - indirect lighting, where he talks about analyzing the form and sculpting it on paper with lines and tones! A fantastic lesson [I was totally blown away yesterday by how much I've learned just from those simple technical instructions :arteest::eek:]
also with digital painting I could not recommend flipping the image horizontally strongly enough! Especially with portraits - you'll see how much this second point of view will iprove your work...
Heozart
07-02-2008, 06:43 PM
Hey Mark,
Here's a quick demo to show you how cross sections of a cylindar might appear in relation to eye level. As you can see, the elipse becomes rounder the farther it gets from the eye level. So when you are looking down at a can, the bottom should be drawn slightly rounder even if it may not look that way because we only see half the elipse for the bottom and the whole elipse for the top. When I look at the top half of your can, I can definitly tell we are looking down. But when I see the bottom, it feels as if the eye is not much higher, almost as if looking at it straight ahead. Just something to consider next time you draw cans. ;)
http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m119/Heozart/Misc/can.jpg
markey2d
07-02-2008, 10:58 PM
NR43- thnx, its true i need to learn some basic perspective.
Intervain-thnx, thats advice i can't get enough of but some how keep forgetting.
Heozart-thnx alot.
well another obervational drawing, of a shoe this time so no tricky reflections :)
i dont think the line work is very good however if you squint ( or just close your eyes and imagined something else more beautiful) i think i got most of the values right.http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd16/markey2d/IMG-7.jpg
markey2d
07-03-2008, 05:07 PM
jus took a doodle and painted over it, should have a study for u l8r on.
http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd16/markey2d/IMG-8.jpghttp://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd16/markey2d/theblindbutcherCA.jpg
markey2d
07-05-2008, 01:07 AM
daily studies.
a laptop bag and an electric fan.http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd16/markey2d/IMG-9.jpghttp://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd16/markey2d/IMG_0001-4.jpg
markey2d
07-06-2008, 09:43 PM
master study update.http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd16/markey2d/DavidCA-1.jpg
markey2d
07-09-2008, 10:11 PM
i was feeling really demotivated a couple of days ago, but now i feel really inspired, and decide to try something extremly ambitious for me and that was to paint the female form straight digitally no setting up, im 3 hours in. this painting was some what inspired by James Kei. the reference is from characterdesigns.com.
the face sucks so try to ignore until i get round to fixing it. http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd16/markey2d/femaleformCA.jpg
anandpg
07-10-2008, 05:26 AM
Hey Markey!! Great to see the studies..!:thumbsup: Hope you are using a pen and tablet for the digital work. :) Drawing/Painting with the mouse can be hazardous to the wrist.
markey2d
07-10-2008, 10:34 PM
anandpg- i am using a tablet for the digi stuff, thnx :)
reposting with updates cause of image violation.
markey2d
07-10-2008, 10:35 PM
How do you post images from imageshack? please help guys.
Rebeccak
07-10-2008, 10:42 PM
Same as for Photobucket - if you want to continue to use Photobucket, just place a bar over the nude bits and it should be fine. :)
Sky_Eagle
07-11-2008, 12:51 PM
To post images from imageshack is very easy. you just upload the foto and then when it's uploaded scroll down and from the box named direct link to image you just copy the url and paste it here as you did before with photobucket.
your work isn't bad but you need to use more reference.
markey2d
07-13-2008, 08:59 PM
heres is a scribble guys, i like the idea but i have got a long way to go.
and i just realised something, which is the simple fact that i dont spend enough time on my work, especially digital work, i don't think i have spent more than 3 hours on any of my digital paintings, which is shocking. hopefully as i begin to paint more this will increase.http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd16/markey2d/thefencerca.jpg
markey2d
07-16-2008, 03:09 PM
heres the finished version of my character. hope you like, i think its a big improvement.http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd16/markey2d/thefencerca-1.jpg
markey2d
07-16-2008, 11:19 PM
just some doodling with some imagination face studies.http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd16/markey2d/turtledoodle.jpg
markey2d
07-19-2008, 12:05 AM
i refined it a bit more and fixed the arm. i also did some stuff with the lighting.
I added that Z in the background for no reason, i know it's corny but hey, i even gave it a little 3dness to it.
As always crits and comments are very welcome.:)http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd16/markey2d/thefencerca-2.jpg
I liked it a lot better without the big Z. It's too distracting from the character.
Instead, you could lead the viewer's eye by adding contrast (wider range of values!) and detail in the areas of interest, which to me are the eyes, face, chest and shoulder area and sword grip. Squint your eyes and look at your character, it has a rather limited value range, which is why it looks a bit dull.
The background could use a lil love as well. If you could make the ground/sky transition more natural, it would add a lot to the piece.
Check out the tutorials forum and read up on values and color. Do it! The theory often seems boring, but it really isn't if you keep in the back of your mind that the more you learn, the better you become.
Don't give up on this one now!
Add a new layer and try something, if it doesn't work, you can always delete the layer. If it works, consider being brave and merging it. Paintings tend to look less artificial when painted on one layer (imho)
Keep at it!
markey2d
07-25-2008, 10:07 PM
thnx!
all i got for you is crap! to be honest kinda pathetic really, been too lazy this week. need to get back on the train.
anyway hope u like craphttp://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd16/markey2d/IMG_0001-5.jpghttp://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd16/markey2d/IMG_0002-3.jpg
Not seen any perspective studies from you yet :twisted:
Your designs would become much much better if you would tackle that perspective ;)
To get rid of your laziness I suggest you watch, and learn from Bobby Chiu:
http://nl.youtube.com/watch?v=yejdZEujMNw
Most importantly, listnen to what the man has to say... his advice is worth so much more than gold! I suggest you watch ALL of his video's, starting with the oldest on page 3.
I have his page bookmarked and whenever I have a motivation problem, I dig up one of his vids and they really help to bring back the focus (for me anywayz) I hope they help you as well...
markey2d
08-02-2008, 10:46 PM
NR43-thnx alot. i am still struggling with perspective, any tips on learning? I have listened to all the bobby chiu stuff, but perhaps you right in that i should revist them.
here is a sketch i started today, been tweaking the anatomy and wat not.
about an hour and a half in.http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd16/markey2d/warriorCA-3.jpg
markey2d
08-04-2008, 06:26 PM
about 2 more hours in, still fixing proportions as i go, i know the neck part is terrible.http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd16/markey2d/warriorCA-4.jpg
markey2d
08-06-2008, 01:08 AM
http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd16/markey2d/warriorCA-5.jpghttp://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd16/markey2d/IMG-10.jpg
an update and some life studies.
About the outlines in your African Warrior:
-they are too thick
-don't use black, but a color that fits the lighting, be it shadow or highlight
Do you have an anatomy book?
If not, try to find a good one at the library and make some studies of bones and muscles.
Love the life drawings!
You're doing really great markey2d, keep up the good work!
markey2d
08-07-2008, 09:00 PM
NR43-thnx man, i got some anatomy stuff to work from, gonna go back to them.
some studies and a 10 minute pose.http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd16/markey2d/IMG_0001-6.jpghttp://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd16/markey2d/IMG-11.jpghttp://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd16/markey2d/IMG_0001-7.jpg
wickedsamara
08-08-2008, 01:34 PM
Hey nice works! :thumbsup:
Do you do a basic blocking before starting to draw??? I think that really helps. Just a small tip....
markey2d
08-20-2008, 10:41 AM
thnx for comments.
studies.http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd16/markey2d/IMG_0002-4.jpghttp://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd16/markey2d/IMG_0001-8.jpghttp://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd16/markey2d/IMG-12.jpghttp://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd16/markey2d/IMG-13.jpghttp://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd16/markey2d/IMG_0001-9.jpghttp://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd16/markey2d/IMG_0002-5.jpghttp://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd16/markey2d/warriorCA-6.jpg
moidphotos
08-25-2008, 10:49 PM
Hi Mark
I've read through your thread, you've had some excellent advice from some people here who are far more talented than me - I would go with their advice. My own additional thoughts would be that although you are picking up a knowledge of all the individual parts of the body, you do not yet understand how they fit together or the relationship of each part to the other in terms of scale - the proportions of your people are usually too tall.
Definitely avoid heavy black line work, it's a curse. People use it to hide poor work or lack of skills and it always feels clumsy. Also once you start drwng in black you can't go darker. I advise students to work in sepia (a mid to dark brown) so that you can always darken an area further if you need to and you can go lighter with white as well. I also think warm tones suit life drawings.
You definitely need to go to a life drawing class. If you live in London there will be loads, mostly run by Local Authorities as Adult Education Evening classes or Saturday classes. Because you aren't yet 18 you may find that you would get very heavy subsidies or even free entry (depends on the borough you live in). Another place to try would be the City Lit, they might run courses. You need this more than anything, it would really improve your figure work.
Also start drawing streets, get used to perspective - you live in London, so perspective is everywhere!
Your work shows clear improvement over the period of time spent on it, so keep at it!
Your last drawing/Photoshop pic shows where life drawing would help you. You've drawn the legs from facing forwards but the torso from a three quarter view without any connection between the two, or suggestion that the position of one will influence the shape and balance of the other. You've drawn the cliche sixpack, but if those muscles are so developed, you need to draw the two muscles that descend from them to the groin as well. The pectoral muscles have a completely horizontal line under them, but the pectorals are always in a slight arc (there are no straight lines in the human body) because they sit on top of the rib cage and the rib cage is curved - hmmm maybe get a skeleton to draw from (not in a book, a real one), that might help you realise how the muscles sit on top of the bones. The head doesn't look the right scale to me, a bit too small I think... his feet seem enormous - they are longer than his head is tall - unless you've got gigantic feet try putting one of your shoes up to your face, you should find that the distance from heel to big toe is less than the distance from chin to top of skull.
I'm going to stop there because it is very easy to criticise and it can be hard to take it. I think you demonstrate talent, but more importantly determination and I think if you stick with practice practice practice until it comes out your ears you will improve a lot. Keep posting your work, and good luck with your future plans :)
markey2d
09-29-2008, 08:48 PM
im quite happy with where this is going, i started it a while back but got really stuck.
Crits to help me push forward please.http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd16/markey2d/DavidCA-2.jpg
moidphotos
09-30-2008, 11:59 PM
Your proportions are still wrong in many places I'm afraid. Look at the outstretched right arm - it's too long. There is confusion around the left shoulder profile, it seems lumpy compared to my memory of the original painting. Face obviously has lots of issues, especially the eye which is drawn from a different angle to the rest of the body. The right leg is squeezed together closer than is possible, although having just looked at Michelangelo's picture I can see where you've got the idea from - you've got the silhouette almost right of that leg, it's the internal detail that is wrong - the line the delineates the calf muscle is at a different angle to Michelangelo's and that's what makes the leg feel like it's squeezed. I would say that the tone is all wrong in the shadow areas - you started this image using pure black and painted lighter greys on top - this means most of the muscles are still outlined in black making them appear unnaturally defined and hard. Paint with a mid tone and then use white and black to add dark / light areas and you'll get softer muscle tones like Michelangelo. Or fill the canvas with a mid tone grey and paint black and white over the top with a low opacity brush. Keep practising and get to a life drawing class as soon as you can :)
Well done for not just tracing the painting, it's harder the way you are doing it but you'll learn much more.
markey2d
10-03-2008, 08:50 PM
moidphotos- thnx, lord willing i should be starting life drawing next week saturday,
i was meant to start on tuesday but the studio said they were too busy and stopped doing life drawing.
Adam piece again, plz ignore the head for now i just wanna work or the proportional issues on the body first, so plz critique harshly. paint over would be nice :D http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd16/markey2d/DavidCA-3.jpg
anandpg
10-04-2008, 03:24 AM
Hey Markey! Getting better, man! keep going! As for critiques, I think you should go a bit easy on the darker values.. for example, you have drawn really deep shadows between the pectorals and the abs. Try blurring your eyes while looking at the original and yours side-by-side so that you can judge the values more accurately. Proportions are mostly alright, I guess.. but check the thickness and orientation of the neck, and also the tilt of the pelvis. I am not much of a painter myself, but thought this might help!:D
Keep up the good work!:thumbsup:
markey2d
10-12-2008, 09:33 PM
anandpg-thnx alot man, appreciate it. :)
here is a doodle and life drawings!!! started on Saturday, i learnt a lot. http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd16/markey2d/IMG-14.jpghttp://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd16/markey2d/100_0764.jpghttp://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd16/markey2d/100_0763.jpg
Rebeccak
10-12-2008, 10:32 PM
Great start to your life drawings! :) Love that last one, keep going.
markey2d
10-27-2008, 11:42 AM
http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd16/markey2d/IMG_0014.jpghttp://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd16/markey2d/IMG_0013.jpghttp://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd16/markey2d/IMG_0010-1.jpgsome 30 secconds poses and some studies http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd16/markey2d/IMG_0009-1.jpghttp://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd16/markey2d/IMG_0008-1.jpghttp://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd16/markey2d/IMG_0007-1.jpghttp://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd16/markey2d/IMG_0006-3.jpghttp://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd16/markey2d/IMG_0005-2.jpghttp://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd16/markey2d/IMG_0004-1.jpg
markey2d
10-27-2008, 11:45 AM
thnx Rebbecca
heres some more life drawing
http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd16/markey2d/100_0765.jpghttp://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd16/markey2d/100_0766.jpghttp://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd16/markey2d/100_0768.jpghttp://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd16/markey2d/100_0769.jpghttp://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd16/markey2d/100_0772.jpg
Awesome stuff!
Really nice job on the foreshortening of those legs in the first sketch of the last post!
Keep pushing yourself, you're doing fabulous!
Hey Markey!
The straight-lined drawing looks kind of neat. One thing though, the lines look a bit random. I would expect those to be simplified parts of the figures, the planes of the forms but now it's hard to read. But damn, life drawing is sure the right way to go.
Try getting your hands on Hogarth's "Dynamic Figure Drawing", amazing book.
anandpg
11-02-2008, 04:16 AM
Hey Markey! good to see the life drawings!! Great progress, man!:thumbsup: I see a lot of character in your lines. Keep it going!
markey2d
11-29-2008, 08:35 AM
thnx alot guys here is some stuff.
http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd16/markey2d/IMG_0003-3.jpghttp://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd16/markey2d/blackberryingcopy.jpghttp://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd16/markey2d/winedrinkerCA.jpghttp://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd16/markey2d/winedrinkerCA-1.jpg
markey2d
12-02-2008, 09:41 PM
heres an update of the character
http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd16/markey2d/winedrinkerCA-2.jpg
markey2d
12-10-2008, 02:13 PM
more stuff.
http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd16/markey2d/IMG-17.jpg
http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd16/markey2d/IMG_0001-12.jpg
http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd16/markey2d/IMG_0002-8.jpg
http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd16/markey2d/IMG_0003-4.jpg
http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd16/markey2d/IMG_0004-2.jpg
http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd16/markey2d/IMG_0005-3.jpg
http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd16/markey2d/IMG_0006-4.jpg
http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd16/markey2d/IMG_0007-2.jpg
http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd16/markey2d/IMG_0008-2.jpg
markey2d
12-10-2008, 02:14 PM
http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd16/markey2d/IMG_0009-2.jpg
http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd16/markey2d/IMG_0010-2.jpg
http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd16/markey2d/IMG_0011-1.jpg
http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd16/markey2d/IMG_0012-1.jpg
Great to see you posting man. Practise makes perfect :)
I'd suggest doing more anatomical studies. After doing some imaginational work you should easily be able to tell areas that you need to work on. It's good to get rid of the guesswork while drawing out of your head.
Oh, and about the environment speedpaint a few posts back, I think you're relying too much on custom brushes. Birds, leaves, bushes,...
Hope this helps a bit. Keep pushing forward!
Cheers
markey2d
01-20-2009, 11:38 PM
razz-thnx man, love your stuff.
update for this guy, still need help.
http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd16/markey2d/winedrinkerCA-3.jpg
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