My car ... in Wings ;)

[somlor]

Great start. I think it's ready for detail and higher res textures for a 3Delight render. :)

Care to share how you approached the UV mapping in Wings?

Sean.

[JPGargoyle]

Originally posted by somlor
Great start. I think it's ready for detail and higher res textures for a 3Delight render. :)

Thanks a lot Sean. :)
I think you are right. My next step is to refine the mesh, and add in the detail needed to create all the geometry of the car so it can be all defined just by its geometry without the need of textures (like rear view mirrors and stuff).
My final goal is to export it to PovRay.


Originally posted by somlor
Care to share how you approached the UV mapping in Wings?

Sean.
Sure. I'm making some screen captures to show the way I did it.

Will be ready in no time and then I will post them here.


Best regards. :thumbsup:

[wasamonkey]

if you want to just do a smooth on it to bring the res up bebore you start cutting in the details you can try this
tighten -50% then smooth
this basicly makes the mesh behave a little more like nurbs as the points will stay roughly where they are so the mesh wont shrink :)

cheers

[JPGargoyle]

Ok somlor:

Here is how I did it (more or less ;) )

Edited:
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Forgot to mention that I used version 0.98.08d
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First I selected the object (1) I wanted to UV Map (in this case the car body) and right clicked to get to the menu and chose the UV Mapping option (2), entering the UV Mapping mode disappearing all other objects from view (the wheels) (3)
http://jpgargoyle.f2o.org/3dstuff/wings3d/lancia/UVSteps01.jpg

Then I started selecting groups of faces and assigning them "groups" (4) - (7) until I had all my car with its faces assigned (8).

To me the tricky part is this one, because the way we select the groups will affect the way how the projection of the faces will be, and how easy or hard it will be to create the textures.

I chose this grouping based on the fact that I was going to "cut and paste" parts of a photograph into the texture, so all my groups are almost planar from the beginning.

Once all the faces are assigned its time to unfold the mesh.
Right click to get menu, choose continue (8) and then projection (9).
The result from the projection can be seen in (10).
http://jpgargoyle.f2o.org/3dstuff/wings3d/lancia/UVSteps02.jpg

Then I selected each of the groups (11) to arrange them in a way that would be more friendly to me, so I rotated (12) - (13) them, move and scale to achieve the result seen in (14).
Once everything was as I liked it I exported it to a file (15). In this case its a .tga, the only format available for wings to export it.
http://jpgargoyle.f2o.org/3dstuff/wings3d/lancia/UVSteps03.jpg

Then I opened the .tga file in PhotoShop along with a pic I was going to use to make the texture (16) and composed them togueder (17) resulting in my texture to UV Map (18).

To finish, in wings UV Mapping mode I Imported the file (19), and that was it! My car was UV-Mapped :)
http://jpgargoyle.f2o.org/3dstuff/wings3d/lancia/UVSteps04.jpg

I did the same for the wheeels but I used the texture I already had created for the body (I putted there the map for the wheels as you can see).

I hope this is of some help to you.
If there is something that I explained wrongly or that has mistakes please feel free fo ask and give suggestions.


Best regards.
:buttrock:

[somlor]

Wow, thanks a lot for taking the time to explain that so thoroughly. Really cool!

:beer:

Looking forward to updates.

Sean.

[S3D]

I agree, great job depicting this procedure... thanx a bunch for your work here... :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

[JPGargoyle]

Thank you very much!

It was a pleasure. :)

I had a great time doing it and learned a lot too.

Its good to be me "teaching" something for a change ;)


Best regards.
:wavey:

[Apollux]

Great Post/Tutorial JPGargoyle!!

I'm a Blenderhead and even the fact that we have UV mapping in Blender since only God knows when (loooong time ago) I can tell you that it is perhaps the most unused feature because many people just don't know how to start or even what it is for. :eek:

Your tutorial is an enlightening work man. This thread is been referenced even from elysiun (unofficial Blender's HQ) itself !!! :thumbsup:

[JPGargoyle]

Originally posted by Apollux
Your tutorial is an enlightening work man.

...

This thread is been referenced even from elysiun (unofficial Blender's HQ) itself !!! :thumbsup:

WOW! That is great! :D and thank you for your kind words :thumbsup:
I'm honored and happy that my little tut is usefull. :bounce:

Originally posted by Apollux
I'm a Blenderhead and even the fact that we have UV mapping in Blender since only God knows when (loooong time ago) I can tell you that it is perhaps the most unused feature because many people just don't know how to start or even what it is for. :eek:

Too bad I'm not a Blender user. This tut is Wings specific, but I think the theory behind is "app independant" ;)
Anyway, I will make a detailed tut soon, when I get my website running.

Thanks! :buttrock:

Best regards.

[Apollux]

Originally posted by JPGargoyle
This tut is Wings specific, but I think the theory behind is "app independant" ;)


Yeap, UV mapping in Blender isn't as straight forward as in Wings (speaking from the tutorial, I'm not a Wings user). But WHAT you do is exactly the same, the only different is the HOW. If you take out the screen-shots (that are great, by the way) and change some names here and there you would have a Blender tutorial.

Anyways, your tut puts very clear the workflow in a easy to follow sequence. Again, Great Work!:applause:

[MukMan]

Ok, so after reading this post, I tried this for myself. I UV mapped a simple sphere for an eyeball texture I drew. I got everything to work except for one thing: After importing he image into wings, The poly's of the uv map were on top of the image and for some reason the applied texture looks just like the poly's with no colors from the image I imported. What did I do wrong?

[JPGargoyle]

Hi MukMan!

Smething similar happens to me sometimes.

I don't know if it is a bug or if there is something we do that we shouldn't (or something we don't that we should :) )

Try this:

Before importing the file, go to the import menu and click on white.
It will clean the texture to white, and the you can import the file you created.

I think this is because, in order to create the file that is exported with the poligons draw on it, the texture we see in Wings is what is going to be applied to the object, so if it has a mesh drawn on it, that will be mapped to the object.

Bu sometimes things behave differently.
:shrug:

I am trying different approaches to it to see if i can figure out what really happens and if it is me that am doing something wrong or if there is somethings that mus be tweaked (remember UV Mapping in wings is still experimental)


I hope this could help.


Best regards.

[wasamonkey]

wings saves the image files in the wings directory and possibly in the wings file itself

[Apollux]

sorry to go off topic, but JPGargoyle, are you aware of your avatar's meaning? :eek:

[S3D]

Oh Oh...hehe... anyhoo... ya know, I reread this thread every day now... and then experiment away... thanx again for this... I mean this is just superb... :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :beer:

[JPGargoyle]

Originally posted by Apollux
sorry to go off topic, but JPGargoyle, are you aware of your avatar's meaning? :eek:

I sure do!
And I love my little Baphomet!!! :D

But don't be afraid. I'm not a Satanic freak or something like that. http://forum.metalopenmind.com/images/smiles/icon_twisted.gif

I just like things related to the occult and stuff like that he he he


Best regards :buttrock:

[JPGargoyle]

Originally posted by S3D
Oh Oh...hehe... anyhoo... ya know, I reread this thread every day now... and then experiment away... thanx again for this... I mean this is just superb... :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :beer:

Thank YOU! :beer:

I never thought I would get such a positive feedback and kind words as I've got with this thread.

This just makes me want to learn more and try to share more the (little) I know. :applause:

Thank you all for your kind comments and replys.

It has been a grat encouragment to me! Thank you all. :bowdown:


Best regards.

[dgud]

I think you should also post a link to the tutorial in the offical wings forum, it will be appreciated.
/Dan

[somlor]

Originally posted by JPGargoyle
I sure do!
And I love my little Baphomet!!! :D

But don't be afraid. I'm not a Satanic freak or something like that. http://forum.metalopenmind.com/images/smiles/icon_twisted.gif

I just like things related to the occult and stuff like that he he he

Best regards :buttrock:
Aleister Crowley = genius. :)

Sean.

[Cman]

Where'd you get the cool image for texturing?

[JPGargoyle]

Originally posted by Cman
Where'd you get the cool image for texturing?

Hi!

I don't know the exact place.
I found it somewhere on the net.
I searched for Lancia Y blueprints but found none, so I started to search for gallerys of lancia pics, but found few material that could be helpfull.
In one of the sites I found the pic I use to create the texture.
I was planning on using it as a ref pic for modelling, but since the photos are taken with perspective, it was hard for me to use them.
I ended using a scan of a drawing of the car that was in the book that came with my car.


Best regards :)

[DKnight]

really nice Low Poly work :beer:

Love is the Law - Love under Will :buttrock:


greetz from old Europe
DKnight

[JPGargoyle]

Originally posted by DKnight
really nice Low Poly work :beer:


Well, thank you very much DKnight! :D


Best regards.

[Thygrrr]

Very nice, I took the liberty to convert it into a PDF for personal use :applause:

[JPGargoyle]

Originally posted by Thygrrr
Very nice, I took the liberty to convert it into a PDF for personal use :applause:

Cool! :bounce: That is great!

Glad to see that there are still people finding it useful.


Best regards

[danydrunk]

this is exactly the kind of tutorial I was looking for, thanks a lot for taking the time honestly, I appreciate people who takes their time to help others :applause: :applause:

[Geta-Ve]

hey JP any chance you could get that tutorial up on a website? would be good to directly link to it, because it is really thorough.. great job man!!

[JPGargoyle]

Thanks danydrunk and Geta-Ve!

Geta-Ve: I really plan on getting it on my website.
I even plan on doing another one using the new features of the most recent wings versions, but I just haven't found the time yet. :sad:
I already have the webspace but haven't done nothing to it yet.
I hope that this summer vacations I finally get time to do something to it.

Thanks again for your kind words. It's good to see I made something useful to other people :bounce: .


Best regards

[Argoon]

Muitos parabêns pela receptividade do teu tutorial:), e muito merecida porque ele é mesmo bom qualquer pessoa que não saiba colucar texturas nos seus objectos agora defenitivamente vai saber:thumbsup:.

[JPGargoyle]

Wow!

Muito obrigado!

É bom ver que ainda há pessoal a ver o tutorial. :D

Tb é bom ver mais um "tuga" por estes lados.

O tutorial é que já é bastante antigo, pelo que as novas versões do wings já funcionam de maneira ligeiramente diferente.

Tenho planos de fazer outro tutorial mais actualizado, mas não tenho tempo nenhum para nada :P (a minha webpage está quase há 2 anos para arrancar) he he he

Um grande abraço e bem vindo a esta excelente comunidade.

[Argoon]

No problem:)

Obrigado e um grande abraço para tí também:) .

p.S-De que zona do país és, eu fico a 20km de Braga numa Vila chamada Vieira do Minho.

[JPGargoyle]

p.S-De que zona do país és, eu fico a 20km de Braga numa Vila chamada Vieira do Minho.

Deve ser bem bonito o sítio onde vives!

Eu sou da zona de Lisboa e há pouco tempo fui morar para ao pé de Torres-Vedras, apesar de continiar a trabalhar em Lisboa. Quis fugir um bocado da confusão. :D


Um abraço.

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