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freerider
03-27-2003, 08:31 AM
Hi !


I was wondering if any of you guys have tried Animate with any of the newer ATI graphic cards and drivers. Such as the Radon 9500, 9700 series. I know Pmg on their web site recommends against using it with ATI cards because of bad openGL drivers. But the drivers keep getting updated, so I 'm hoping it may be fixed by now. Any experiences ?

btw, great new forum :)

ThomasHelzle
03-27-2003, 05:29 PM
I have tried a Radeon 9000 Pro with 128 MB and newest drivers some Weeks ago and the OGL Performance with Lightwave and Messiah was horrible - 3 times slower than my old Geforce 2 MX 400 with 32 MB...

I have now bought a GeForce4 4800 SE instead with 128 MB and it really rocks... :thumbsup:

Someone on the mailinglist has reported some luck with some hidden settings, but he couldn't tell what he has done... :rolleyes:

Anyone else? :curious:

Best Regards...

mg3d
03-27-2003, 06:45 PM
I can't really say that I have a newer ATI card, but I have an ATI 32mb Mobility M6 on my laptop and it runs decent. But not nearly as good as my 32mb geForce 2 on my pc.

-mG

Kricket
03-27-2003, 09:34 PM
I've got a 9700 Pro, when I run the "Melt" tutorial where a T-Rex melts into the ground I avg 8-10 fps on a Athlon 2600 w/ 1 gig ram.

Could someone with a Geforce4 4600 or 4800 run that tutorial and see what kind of framerate you get for comparison? If it's realtime I'm gonna switch cards.

ThomasHelzle
03-27-2003, 11:01 PM
...so maybe you should switch then ;-)
I have an old Dual PIII 800 with the said Gainward Geforce4 4800SE with 128 MB. I use dual Monitors with 1280x1024 each.
When running the Melt-Demo with Messiah on one of the two screens maximized and subdivisions on, I get 12-15fps - and this is because Messiah doesn't use Dual Processors for playback, so the 800Mhz-processor is limiting speed - you should get much more on your machine...
With subdivisions off, I get 66-100 fps (if I switch to a higher framerate of course...)
ATI is ahead in game performance, but with OpenGL they are worlds behind.

Best Regards...

Kricket
03-28-2003, 12:00 AM
AAIIIEEEE

Ok, when I get the cash I'm switching. I turned Sub-D off and it flip flops between 17 and 25 fps. (After Ive increased the max framerate). OpenGL settings are all at "High Performance".. bah!

Time to write ATI a nasty letter. Thanks for your help!

My Fault
03-28-2003, 08:05 AM
I just don't trust ATI anymore. From the a@$holish way their salespeople act at conventions to the piss poor drivers, I will never delve in to the waters of ATI again. All the issues I had with Messiah and Lightwave (and many AM issues as well) went away when I switched back to Nvidia.

ThomasHelzle
03-28-2003, 12:34 PM
Be sure to get rid of ALL the ATI-Driver-Stuff if you switch to nvidia - the deinstallation is as bad as the whole driver - I still have some ATI-registry settings left that I can't delete with regedit.
The best would be a clean install ;-)
"ATI-Desinfection" :wip: ;-)

TH

freerider
03-28-2003, 05:02 PM
Well, I guess the conclusion is to avoid ATI at all costs then :)
Thanks for the input. :thumbsup:

Andy741
03-28-2003, 08:17 PM
Depending on how much you want to save up, this card looks pretty good for opengl:

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?sku=P56-FX1000#

Does anyone know what kind of fps this will get on the melt-demo?

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