Capturing HDMI out from the PS3 and Xbox360

[davegraham]

Anyone out there doing this? If so what's your setup look like? I would assume you can just out the HDMI to some type of pc capture...is there a big diff between capturing HDMI or the RCA video outputs quality-wise?

Thanks-

I suppose you could use something like this (http://www.blackmagic-design.com/products/intensity/)to capture the HDMI and process onto your system.

by RCA video outputs do you mean Composite or Component? Component would be of similar quality to HDMI; Composite would be noticably poorer.

dave

[mattregnier]

Thanks for the reply Dave. Component.

Basically what I want to do is:
1. Take the HDMI out from both game systems, toss them into the computer (to record), and then pump the signal back out to the TV.

or
2. Output from the systems to 'both' the TV and computer.

It looks like I can use that internal HDMI card (for capturing)...and then push the signal to the tv from the HDMI out on the card? or would I need something additional?

Simple illustration attached of what I'm thinking...or is there an easier solution.

Also- Have you used the blackmagic card? Would I need to run the signal through a scan converter?

[davegraham]

Thanks for the reply Dave. Component.

Basically what I want to do is:
1. Take the HDMI out from both game systems, toss them into the computer (to record), and then pump the signal back out to the TV.

or
2. Output from the systems to 'both' the TV and computer.

It looks like I can use that internal HDMI card (for capturing)...and then push the signal to the tv from the HDMI out on the card? or would I need something additional?

You should be able to do #1 with the intensity pro (which uses analog breakout cabling).


Simple illustration attached of what I'm thinking...or is there an easier solution.

Also- Have you used the blackmagic card? Would I need to run the signal through a scan converter?


I personally don't use the cards but some of my video clients do and swear by it. you shouldn't need to run through a scan converter as the principle of the card is to capture directly from HD sources with minimal interference (http://www.blackmagic-design.com/products/intensity/).

you could go with an HDMI matrix box but that starts looking more and more $$$ for what you want to do. this is probably the closest thing to simple that you can do right now.

If you're looking to get one I would recommend guygraphics.com (http://guygraphics.com/) (Clayton is a great guy and very responsive).

cheers,

Dave

[mattregnier]

Cool. Thanks Dave some great info. I guess I am worried that if we make the purchase and then find out that the HDMI out on the ps3 and the xbox are copyright protected then we won't be able to utilize the Infinity Pro card...Any thoughts or know anyone that could shed some light on that question? I believe from reading it's something like HDCP protection or something?

[davegraham]

Cool. Thanks Dave some great info. I guess I am worried that if we make the purchase and then find out that the HDMI out on the ps3 and the xbox are copyright protected then we won't be able to utilize the Infinity Pro card...Any thoughts or know anyone that could shed some light on that question?

you're talking about HDCP, right?

If so, the Intensity Pro will NOT capture from HDCP enabled sources.

see this (http://www.blackmagic-design.com/support/detail.asp?techID=173)Support Ticket @ blackmagic.

I'll keep looking.

cheers,

Dave

[UrbanFuturistic]

HDCP, like Macrovision, is activated on a disc by disc basis.

From Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HDCP):Content providers for HD-DVD and Blu-ray media can set an Image Constraint Token (ICT) flag that will only output full-resolution digital signals using a digital HDCP connection. If an HDCP enabled player is connected to a non-HDCP-enabled television set with a non-HDCP-compliant analog connection (VGA or Component), and the content is flagged, the player will output a downsampled 960x540 pixel signal. If using non-HDCP-compliant DVI connection (with HDMI to DVI cable), the user will not get any picture at all.However:a new SKU of the Xbox360 called the "Xbox 360 Elite" has HDMI support, which enables it to play such protected content at full resolution. If ICT would be forced, Microsoft's flagship console (note that MS is an integral part of the HD-DVD camp, currently providing the VC-1 codec that is used in over 90% of all HD-DVD releases) would only be able to display a quarter of the actual resolution of the media, so movie studios are apparently in agreement not to include the ICT flag on any HD-DVDs or Blu-ray Discs in the immediate future.So, it looks like HDCP doesn't apply to games anyway and it isn't going to be applied to films any time soon.

[davegraham]

HDCP, like Macrovision, is activated on a disc by disc basis.

From Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HDCP):However:So, it looks like HDCP doesn't apply to games anyway and it isn't going to be applied to films any time soon.

so, if it's not protected (for games) then you can use the Blackmagic Intensity.

:)

cheers,

Dave

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