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vizion
03-24-2003, 01:20 AM
You know it had to happen.

baby
03-24-2003, 01:28 AM
I told U !!!!

robinson
03-24-2003, 01:41 AM
:applause: :applause: :applause:

Miyazaki
03-24-2003, 01:49 AM
Oh yeah, makes me happy. First time that an anime was nominated.
Congrats to the whole Ghibli team! :applause: :applause: :applause:

terryford
03-24-2003, 03:15 AM
Yay! :thumbsup: Chances of a UK cinematic release just went up... a little bit. Contgrats to Miyazaki and team Ghibli.


Regards,
Terry

Synkronizer
03-24-2003, 03:17 AM
didn't Walt Disney buy that movie?

eliseu gouveia
03-24-2003, 03:28 AM
Hooray for Miyazaki!
:applause: :beer:

SheepFactory
03-24-2003, 04:02 AM
:buttrock:

bentllama
03-24-2003, 04:33 AM
I was hoping for something else to win...

...at least this makes me look forward to truth in the PIXAR/Miyazaki rumours...

fango
03-24-2003, 04:48 AM
about time :bounce: :thumbsup:

wmendez
03-24-2003, 05:57 AM
:beer: :buttrock:

sdwx
03-24-2003, 09:43 AM
Well done Miyazaki!
Well done Studio Ghibli!
Well done Spirited Away!

SDWX!

GRMac13
03-24-2003, 10:09 AM
Originally posted by Synkronizer
didn't Walt Disney buy that movie?

Unfortunately, dear old Walt died many moons ago, friend.

But yea, the "Disney Corporation" did buy the rights to distribute Spirited Away in the US. They also produced the dubbing I believe.

CGmonkey
03-24-2003, 10:36 AM
Haha Spirited Away ruuules!!! :D :applause:

twidup
03-24-2003, 11:08 AM
Originally posted by bentllama
I was hoping for something else to win...

...at least this makes me look forward to truth in the PIXAR/Miyazaki rumours...

so what were you hoping for?

I personally wished Ice Age won, but hey, I am fine with an anime winning as well, bring a little more people into the fold.

-Todd

kw200025
03-24-2003, 11:12 AM
hero! yeah!:bounce: :buttrock: :beer:

jtk77
03-24-2003, 11:57 AM
good, now maybe I can rent the damn thing.
I asked the blockbuster guy if it was out yet and he acted like i grew 3 heads.

strick9
03-24-2003, 12:00 PM
good, now maybe I can rent the damn thing.

April 15th in the US.

fabman
03-24-2003, 12:20 PM
Get the movie in DVD in japan, it deserves the money, two cd's the second one with the movie with two camera angles, one the animated movie, the second one the storyboard.
And there's english subtitles by the way!.
I bought that 4 months ago in Tokyo, and I watched it a hundred times, really goooood animation.

j00st81
03-24-2003, 12:23 PM
the animation was superb, but g-damn the storyline sucked :annoyed:

Really thought I was missing something...

mmh.Nemo
03-24-2003, 01:00 PM
yay - this movie is some great piece of art and deserves some better reward than an oscar :)

superb animation
superb *japanese* voice actors
superb storyline (this has great resemblance to alice in wonderland)
superb score

you just gotta like it - its just not the everyday mainstream movie

:thumbsup: Miyazaki and team

jmdajr
03-24-2003, 01:13 PM
....justice is served!

Dominique
03-24-2003, 01:18 PM
Lovely !!!

HapZungLam
03-24-2003, 01:34 PM
As i expected, there has no challenger

derelict
03-24-2003, 01:36 PM
....and it spirited away the oscars too....

BlackTenshi
03-24-2003, 02:14 PM
Wow!! Congratulations!!

Miyazaki sensei to Studio Ghibli ha ichiban desu!!!

Vash T Stampede
03-24-2003, 03:50 PM
:buttrock: indeed!

:airguitar

AVTPro
03-24-2003, 04:24 PM
I don't understand this.

I have been asleep or this movie slipped in and out of the box office with little to no promo.

I miss it.

How did win such acclaim? I'm usually aware of the any Disney stuff (like Nemo) coming down the pike.

baby
03-24-2003, 04:33 PM
it's not a disney stuff at all...

It's a Ghibli movie...but it has been distributed by Disney in a lot of countries like a lot of old Myiazaki movies which is a good thing,
except the adaptation and change of certain elements (like songs) which is a "denaturalisation" of the original artwork...

edaddy
03-24-2003, 04:46 PM
well deserved, :thumbsup:

i thought the story / characters and animation all kicked ass, and i'll be buying the dvd in april

Houkah
03-24-2003, 05:46 PM
wow gratz to miyazaki. I also thought the story and animation was very good. I really disliked the voice acting though. I think princess Mononoke was a better movie personally.

18th_Devil
03-24-2003, 08:09 PM
oh yeah...classical animation rocks :buttrock:
congrats miyazaki, he did an awsome job....the voice acting for the western version didn't do it for me though but it was still a kick ass film :)

reaperman
03-24-2003, 08:12 PM
about time it happen. we all know ghilbli deserve it.:beer: :beer:

robertp
03-24-2003, 09:03 PM
Well thank god something good happened last night at the Oscars.
Disney has owned the distrobution rights since the 80's. They have been holding back on releasing these films because it directly competes with their own films. Goto Naussica (http://www.naussica.net).
Disney knows they cannot compete with Studio Ghibli, so they just retain the rights in the U.S. and then they can have some control over what we can see in the U.S. Disney was great at animation when Walt was around. Now they suck and cannot come up with an original idea on their own.
It is to bad that they dont wish to spend more money to advertising these great animations here in the U.S. What I am happy about is that John Lasseter had the balls to push this film through Disney and get it out to us.

good going John.:thumbsup:

Rob:D

Antilles
03-24-2003, 09:22 PM
i enjoyed Spirited Away.

It had great animation, great settings, great characters and great atmosphere, and you really connected with the main character, as both she and the audience are totally confused and in awe by this new, strange, wonderful land.

However, something that could have made Spirited Away 100 times better was a cohesive plot.

/me runs and hides.

Maya Ayanami
03-24-2003, 10:26 PM
I havent seen this movie yet but I want to.

arnt the people who made this the same people who made Princcess Mononoke. I really liked that movie.

Maya Ayanami
03-24-2003, 10:26 PM
The characters and animation look very much alike in the two.

JohnD
03-24-2003, 10:35 PM
I haven't seen Spirited yet but definitely want too. I remember Naussica from like...is it 10 years ago? Maybe more. That was a great movie. The graphic novels were even better.

draconix
03-24-2003, 11:19 PM
Saw Spirited Away a while ago and liked it a lot. Glad they won, REALLY glad to see an anime win an Oscar.

Derlaine
03-25-2003, 12:28 AM
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dbclemons
03-25-2003, 12:38 AM
Originally posted by strick9
April 15th in the US.

That will be a big day for Miyazaki DVD releases. Spirited Away, Kiki's Delivery Service, and (FINALLY!) Castle in the Sky!!! Start saving now.

-David

amos_chid
03-25-2003, 12:43 AM
Miyazaki Rulezzz.... :buttrock:
fans of his movie since Totoro :D

cityghost
03-25-2003, 12:45 AM
wow,thats great ! It had great animation, great settings, great characters,great atmosphere,and great plot.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

i enjoyed Spirited Away so much!

tjbeseda
03-25-2003, 01:28 AM
the movie was kinda gay.....the award should have gone to ice age.

japanese anime is not my style and belongs in some 16 year old's gay card deck of pokemon and magic.

[the sad part is im telling this to the guys who played (or still play) "strategy" card games and watch anime (hehe....no offense)]

the only thing japan is good for is cars....and even then america dominates that industry.

to the little island of japan :beer:

JJ3d
03-25-2003, 01:30 AM
:buttrock:
great piece of art !
awesome movie!

his best movie since Grave of the Fireflies !
:thumbsup:

Krypton
03-25-2003, 04:13 AM
It's about time Miyazaki won. I love his movies, and I really think Spirited Away is the best.

P_T
03-25-2003, 04:47 AM
Originally posted by tjbeseda
the movie was kinda gay.....the award should have gone to ice age.

japanese anime is not my style and belongs in some 16 year old's gay card deck of pokemon and magic.

[the sad part is im telling this to the guys who played (or still play) "strategy" card games and watch anime (hehe....no offense)]

the only thing japan is good for is cars....and even then america dominates that industry.

to the little island of japan :beer:


1. Since when does an anime receiving Oscar become a competition between Japan and America?

2. Japan is not only good for cars or have you forgotten Playstations and Nintendo and all the good games that come with them?

3. You should give more example other than Pokemon to justify calling it "gay". It's like me saying ALL American TV programs suck just like Beverly Hills 90210.

4. By the sound of your post, I assume that by "gay" you meant the anime is bad... but what is so bad about being gay? are you a homophobic by any chance?

Please... be a good sport... Spirited Away won and the people who made it deserve the award for all the hard work they've done... You're not happy about the decision? take it up to the Oscar comitee or keep quiet but don't flame people's work by calling it "gay" and go as far as getting the country involved... that's just juvenile IMO...

Regards,
PT

ThatGuy
03-25-2003, 05:14 AM
:beer: to team ghibli I loved this movie .I saw it in the theatres with a bunch of freinds and we were all fascinated from it . We even stayed staring at a cardboard cut up promoting the movie for like hourse until security escorted us out . Beautiful yay:buttrock: :buttrock:

FranSaa
03-25-2003, 05:41 AM
Congratulations Mr. Miyazaki / Studio Ghibli!!...
With or without oscar "Spirited Away / Sen to Chihiro no Kamikakushi" is a MASTERPIECE.

.f.

earthworm
03-25-2003, 08:36 AM
WELL SAID!!! :beer: oh then you guys should watch the cat returns its also by studio ghibli..... the executive producer(i think miyazaki)..very good show.. i love the show.. the cat returns (http://www.nausicaa.net/miyazaki/neko/synopsis/page1.html)


Originally posted by P_T
1. Since when does an anime receiving Oscar become a competition between Japan and America?

2. Japan is not only good for cars or have you forgotten Playstations and Nintendo and all the good games that come with them?

3. You should give more example other than Pokemon to justify calling it "gay". It's like me saying ALL American TV programs suck just like Beverly Hills 90210.

4. By the sound of your post, I assume that by "gay" you meant the anime is bad... but what is so bad about being gay? are you a homophobic by any chance?

Please... be a good sport... Spirited Away won and the people who made it deserve the award for all the hard work they've done... You're not happy about the decision? take it up to the Oscar comitee or keep quiet but don't flame people's work by calling it "gay" and go as far as getting the country involved... that's just juvenile IMO...

Regards,
PT

eric P
03-25-2003, 08:37 AM
I'm so happy about it,so much beautifull movies gihbli did and always stay in the shadow of the boring disney.
Now disney is dead,it's time for the european( american to) to understand that jap anim is not only dragon ball.

I would like to thanks john lasseter,cause he believed in miasaki work
and make it possible:beer:

Chewey
03-25-2003, 01:35 PM
I liked the film but the story was quite weak. Great eye candy and entertaining in spite of it.

The oscars mean a lot to some but when eminem wins an oscar for his work you just gotta wonder if they're trying too hard to be hip.:thumbsdow

Houkah
03-25-2003, 04:27 PM
Wow castle in the sky's coming out on apirl 15th also??? That's my favorite miyazaki movie. (nausica and mononoke are a close 2nd) I have this 11 movie Ghibli DVD set but the subtitles are horrible, I might have to pick up castle in the sky along w/ spirited away. For anyone interested u can get that 11 movie set on ebay for a decent price. It's got most of his well known movies except for the Lupin movies. Let me state again though, the subtitles SUCK on it.

JohnD
03-25-2003, 06:24 PM
It would be great if the Cowboy Bebop movie get nominated next year. Bebop is such a great product. Can't wait for the movie to be released.

robertp
03-25-2003, 06:35 PM
Originally posted by tjbeseda
the movie was kinda gay.....the award should have gone to ice age.

japanese anime is not my style and belongs in some 16 year old's gay card deck of pokemon and magic.

[the sad part is im telling this to the guys who played (or still play) "strategy" card games and watch anime (hehe....no offense)]

the only thing japan is good for is cars....and even then america dominates that industry.

to the little island of japan :beer:

Kinda of funny when you talk about 16 year old's gay card deck. Are you 16? What I gather from your mature statement is that you must be. Who else comes up with pointless statements that only make themselves look like fools. No thats not the high standard that I would expect someone with some intelligence to keep. Anyways I wish you the best of luck in 9th grade. Not because it is wrong to be held back in school.

Rob:D

Chewey
03-25-2003, 11:25 PM
Originally posted by Houkah
Wow castle in the sky's coming out on apirl 15th also??? That's my favorite miyazaki movie. (nausica and mononoke are a close 2nd) I have this 11 movie Ghibli DVD set but the subtitles are horrible, I might have to pick up castle in the sky along w/ spirited away. For anyone interested u can get that 11 movie set on ebay for a decent price. It's got most of his well known movies except for the Lupin movies. Let me state again though, the subtitles SUCK on it.

If you get the legit Japan released DVD of Laputa the subs are fine. The english dubs are pretty crummy still though. I'm getting a bit tired of seeing Lashitter place his face all over the Ghibli product though.

heavyness
03-26-2003, 03:53 AM
http://slashdot.org/articles/03/03/25/2040249.shtml?tid=168&tid=97

back in the theaters...

Lunatique
03-26-2003, 05:18 AM
Originally posted by tjbeseda
the movie was kinda gay.....the award should have gone to ice age.

japanese anime is not my style and belongs in some 16 year old's gay card deck of pokemon and magic.

[the sad part is im telling this to the guys who played (or still play) "strategy" card games and watch anime (hehe....no offense)]

the only thing japan is good for is cars....and even then america dominates that industry.

to the little island of japan :beer:

I'll give tjbeseda a few years to learn and grow. If he/she still expresses similar sentiments in a few years, THEN there's no hope.


And all the people that complained about the bad English voices, subtitles, confusing plot..etc. PLEASE try to remember:

1)Miyazaki does NOT create his masterpieces with the Western Audiences in mind. MANY things in the plot does not translate into Western ideas or equivalent. For example, the witches are not twin sisters, but the yin/yang of the same person. They couldn't translate that without confusing the hell out of the English-speaking people.

2)The English voices are not done by the original creators of the films. Those films have ALWAYS meant to be in Japanese only.

3)The subtitles are not made by the original creators.

All this translation and localizing dillutes the original.

Chewey
03-26-2003, 05:28 AM
That's one thing interesting about the "community" of "open minded" artists. If someone dares to post a contrary opinion then the community goes into hissy fit mode. Apparently many here believe that all artists should think the same.

How open minded...:rolleyes:

P_T
03-26-2003, 07:48 AM
Originally posted by Chewey
That's one thing interesting about the "community" of "open minded" artists. If someone dares to post a contrary opinion then the community goes into hissy fit mode. Apparently many here believe that all artists should think the same.

How open minded...:rolleyes:

There's a difference between "contrary opinion" and just plain flaming...

I responded to tjbeseda's post not only because he call Spirited Away "gay" (would you like people calling your hard work gay?) and generalise anime genre based on one sellout kiddie anime, but also because in my opinion there's a slightly racist tone in his post (the comments about Japan).

I really couldn't care less if u like Spirited Away or not, I didn't go into a "hissy fit mode" when bentllama and twidup stated on Page 1 that they wanted something else like Ice Age to win, nor did I attack you when you said Spirited Away's story was weak.

You certainly are entitled to your opinion but there's such thing as moderation and I quote Leonard Teo's word from 3DWorld magazine article: "... a good, successtul community needs moderation and simply cannot be about 'free speech'."

I hope with this post, you will understand that I didn't reply to tjbeseda's post out of petty desire to attack anyone who doesn't like Spirited Away and/or anime genre in general.

Regards,
P_T

robertp
03-26-2003, 07:55 AM
Chewey,
I was remarking in the way tjbeseda made his statement. I think if he/she really wanted to express their thoughs I would of enjoyed it more if they took more time to develop their statement.
I am always interested in someone else POV but when they cant make their reasons apparent then it does not help them.


There are two different ways to look at things. Emotional and Critical.
Emotional- "I hate that." or "the movie was kinda gay." "Oh I liked that."
Critical- "The story was not as creative, nor were the characters stable enough to create a lasting impression."

Emotions does not have anything to do with a critical analysis of peoples work. I just think that if any artist was looking for feedback and if we were having a solid discussion about work it would be productive.

Oh yah if tjbeseda was using gay in the old term as happy or good then I guess I over stepped my bounds. Anyways to for him to state that short remark about Japan is out of line. He needs some history lessons or to visit Japan.:shame:

Rob:D

BTW- Productive comments are not always positive to the artist but they help them understand their work better.

Chewey
03-26-2003, 02:06 PM
So now we have to critique the manner that someone uses to voice an opinion as well? No one says you must agree with it or that you have to enjoy it. I don't happen to concur with the sentiments myself so just move along.

Get real, the term gay is often used as a pejorative and displaying an unfriendly opinion of Japan is not racism.

:thumbsdow

SheepFactory
03-26-2003, 02:33 PM
do not let 12 year olds disturb the peace.
Replying to people like Tjbesada is a waste of time.

--

Maya Ayanami
03-26-2003, 08:12 PM
Originally posted by tjbeseda
the movie was kinda gay.....the award should have gone to ice age.

japanese anime is not my style and belongs in some 16 year old's gay card deck of pokemon and magic.

[the sad part is im telling this to the guys who played (or still play) "strategy" card games and watch anime (hehe....no offense)]

the only thing japan is good for is cars....and even then america dominates that industry.

to the little island of japan :beer:

I agree with all of you this person is unbelieveable. I mean just because something is cel shaded doesn't mean that it is gay. And it also doesn't mean that it is for kids either. Something that is animated can be just as complex and in depth as any other live action film. Take "Perfect Blue" for example this movie is definatly not for anyone under 13 and most people under 16 or 17. This is a very complicated film that does in depth somewhat into the human mind.
and I agree with Lunatique. saying that since this anime sucked means that every anime sucks. and tjbeseda even went to the lenghts to bash the entire country. that is very low.
Japan is the source of the best animated series/films ever created and well. you are just a little 2 year old prick.

sorry everyone but I just had to say this. inmature puncks like this one make me sick. once again I am sorry for sincking down to its level somewhat.
I am also not saying this because tjbeseda does not like anime and stuff. it is because he/she doesn't have the right to go around flameing other peoples hard work and dreams. that is just plane rude:shame:.

and what about Evangelion. that is by far my favorite series :drool:

robertp
03-26-2003, 08:12 PM
Originally posted by Chewey
So now we have to critique the manner that someone uses to voice an opinion as well? No one says you must agree with it or that you have to enjoy it. I don't happen to concur with the sentiments myself so just move along.

Get real, the term gay is often used as a pejorative and displaying an unfriendly opinion of Japan is not racism.

:thumbsdow

Where did I say his comments were racist? I was stating that his chocie of words was not the best way he could of discribed his thoughts, that is all. I was reading the same way as you then. I didnt see any racist connotations in what Tjbesada stated.

Rob:D

Maya Ayanami
03-26-2003, 08:28 PM
sorry if I was out of line.
and to reply to Chewey, ya sure it is true that we should just respect others opinions and things. but this guys post is not really an opion. CgTalk is not ment to say how gay and how this an entire sucks because of a few not so good shows. it is ment to give opions in an adult and respective mannar. this doesn't mean that you can only say good things because that wouldn't be very respectfull, because this place is ment to learn from. although the people who were involved in the making of this film most likely are not reading these it is just common decency to not say these things. what he should have said should have maybe gone something like this.
"I din't like that movie it didn't have a strong plot line and the characters were not built(personality) well and over all was not very good."

see. but instead he/she has to go and even have the nerve to say that the people here are gay 16 year old's and put down all of japan like that.

some one who prabably has no skills at all has no right bashing other peoples very hard work like that.
can he do better. I think not.


and I am sorry again if I was out-o-line here.

P_T
03-26-2003, 09:29 PM
Originally posted by Chewey
So now we have to critique the manner that someone uses to voice an opinion as well? No one says you must agree with it or that you have to enjoy it. I don't happen to concur with the sentiments myself so just move along.

Get real, the term gay is often used as a pejorative and displaying an unfriendly opinion of Japan is not racism.

:thumbsdow

OF COURSE IT MATTERS how someome voice their opinion!! for example, when u're in an art gallery and see a painting u don't like, it's acceptable to just say "i don't like it" and move on to the next one, but wat will happen if u say to everyone there "the painting is "GAY" and only 16 years old "gays" will like it!!"?? u will offend a lot of people there.

AGAIN I quote Leonard Teo's word from 3DWorld magazine article: "... a good, successtul community needs moderation and simply cannot be about 'free speech'."

"displaying an unfriendly opinion of Japan is not racism." you're kidding me?!? What's an entire nation of Japan ever done to him?!? OH I SEE... so if a neo-nazi skinhead displays an "unfriendly opinion" of Japan, it's not racism... it's just an unfriendly opinion... :rolleyes: and wat if the manner that they use to voice that unfriendly opinion is bordering on violence? we shouldn't care either? :shame:

Regards (and not a very high one),
P_T

robertp
03-26-2003, 10:03 PM
It is sad when someone doesnt understand what a culture has contributed and how their history was developed. Exspecially when they say something that is completely false. Then it becomes the fault of Tjbesada (person making the statement) for misleading others who just do not know better and take your words as fact. You can always state how you feel but to put usless words in your argument just does not help anyone understand. It always seems better if you state what you know and then ask about what you do not understand.
I work in a bookstore so, Tjbesada, if you want to read about Japan and understand their history, who they are as a people then just ask. I can give you some great titles to read.

:lightbulb

Rob:D

Chewey
03-26-2003, 10:43 PM
Originally posted by P_T
OF COURSE IT MATTERS how someome voice their opinion!! for example, when u're in an art gallery and see a painting u don't like, it's acceptable to just say "i don't like it" and move on to the next one, but wat will happen if u say to everyone there "the painting is "GAY" and only 16 years old "gays" will like it!!"?? u will offend a lot of people there.

AGAIN I quote Leonard Teo's word from 3DWorld magazine article: "... a good, successtul community needs moderation and simply cannot be about 'free speech'."

"displaying an unfriendly opinion of Japan is not racism." you're kidding me?!? What's an entire nation of Japan ever done to him?!? OH I SEE... so if a neo-nazi skinhead displays an "unfriendly opinion" of Japan, it's not racism... it's just an unfriendly opinion... :rolleyes: and wat if the manner that they use to voice that unfriendly opinion is bordering on violence? we shouldn't care either? :shame:

Regards (and not a very high one),
P_T

Your emotionally charged retort is about as intellectually dishonest as it gets. Look up the meaning of the word racist. Just because someone holds a nation in lower regard than you doesn't make him a neo nazi etc.
You look worse for the name calling routine.

It might be good to remember that there are relatives of people who were oppressed by the Japanese, i.e Bataan Death March and other WWII attrocities in China. Those folks have a perfect right to hold Japan in a different light than that of a myopic sighted anime fan.

http://www.prisonerofwar.com/

lildragon
03-26-2003, 10:50 PM
Now, now kiddies, let's try to keep this civil. Remember this is a "CG" forum, better yet a "CG NEWS" forum... there's many forums out there to discuss the matter at hand here. Please cease and desist, it's highly inappropriate. Chill and have a cold one on me :beer:

salud

P_T
03-26-2003, 11:39 PM
im not merely an anime fan, i have mix Japanese AND Chinese blood... who are you to justify Tjbesada's "dislike" towards Japan by using China as an example?

it seems to me that everytime someone express their dislike for Japan, they always try to justify it by invoking the past as if the current generation really experience it themselves...

i too can spam u numerous webpages on the net about the only use of weapon of mass destruction on Japan Chewey but i ain't gonna waste anymore time on this crap and if i have something to say to u it will be in private... till then, :beer: Kampai!!

Chewey
03-27-2003, 12:09 AM
Originally posted by P_T
im not merely an anime fan, i have mix Japanese AND Chinese blood... who are you to justify Tjbesada's "dislike" towards Japan by using China as an example?

=== that's a pathetically weak argument.===

it seems to me that everytime someone express their dislike for Japan, they always try to justify it by invoking the past as if the current generation really experience it themselves...

== so you're saying that history should be forgotten or not taught as they've done in Japan regarding the sordid details of their past? ===

i too can spam u numerous webpages on the net about the only use of weapon of mass destruction on Japan Chewey but i ain't gonna waste anymore time on this crap and if i have something to say to u it will be in private... till then, :beer: Kampai!!

If that's the best you can do then you really ought to call it quits and run off.
:thumbsdow

tjbeseda
03-27-2003, 02:38 AM
guys, guys, guys. sorry to have caused such a stir.

first, i want to apologize to lildragon for the following post. i know you said to end it, but it seems i must rectify [or at least attempt to fix] the situation.

it seems my post was indeed emotional and not critical as one user pointed out. perhaps my wording should have been different, the word "gay" may have not been an educated word choice. i would like to retract that comment and assure you i am not bashing these people's hard work.

now then, it is true that i dislike, and in fact despise, anime. my comments were maybe a bit out of line....but it is merely my opinion. this has brought up the fact [as said by another user] that this board tends to lean toward one opinion and shun any other. please allow one to express his/her critical opinion, and only catch someone on a too "emotional" response.

also, as for being "racist"; whoever mentioned this, it seems to me, just wanted to start something and cause a bit of comotion. i am in no way racist, especially against the japanese. look at what they have done for all aspects of our culture [no matter where you are]. just dont like anime, and believe it has no place winning the most prized award in film making.

i suppose a few nerves were touched when i mentioned the fact many grown men still play those great strategy card games. sorry, never really liked 'em.

now, please let this issue rest. continue with the tjbeseda bashing, just don't litter this thread....PM me if you wish. thanks.

that's all i got.

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tjbeseda :surprised
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one last thing, don't you luv it wen sumone kant spel and stil akuses peeple of being dum.....me 2 :wavey:

RobertoOrtiz
03-27-2003, 03:16 AM
OOOKKKKAYYY lets get this back to the subject at hand.


I am really glad that this movie won.
It had one of the most charming stories of last year,
and it was filled to the brim with magic. I am glad to see a childrens movie that does not talk down to them.


Hayao Migazaki is trully a living tresure.

-Roberto

cmc
03-27-2003, 05:43 PM
Someone mention this earlier in this thread.

Miyazaki does NOT create his masterpieces with the Western Audiences in mind.

It reminded me of an interview with Miyazaki. He said that he was sad to see his grand daughter and other children of that age being ignorant about their own country culture. So he makes this film. I don't think what he have in mind is to make million of dollar (or billion of yen) from this movie. He only want to get the newer generation of children in Japan to be interested in their country past culture.

Every movie he make, have a central theme. Like Naussica is about pollution, Laptua is about war and so on (others may like to fill up the list, since I didn't watch all his movies). And he expresses his feeling about those issues through the movies he made.


I always feel that art is about voicing one's thought/opinion through a medium. And Miyazaki is a true artist.

Maya Ayanami
03-27-2003, 07:12 PM
I dont even know what catagory that this movie won in.
what was it?

was this guy involved in princess mononoke(is this the corect spelling.)

malducin
03-27-2003, 07:17 PM
It won for Best Animated Feature.

And yes Miyazaki also did Princess Mononoke.

Maya Ayanami
03-27-2003, 07:29 PM
sweet.
that is cool

would you agree that princess Mononoke was about greed.
I thought about this after cmc(i think that is right) brought up the general messages that his other films send.

dont you think this.
I havent seen Spirited Away yet but is it better than Mononoke. I really like that movie. although I didn't like the character desing much(their faces were different than thy typical anime.)

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