View Full Version : Strange Behavior (Illustration) Entry: Alexandra Ciolac
Alexandra Ciolac is entered in the "Strange Behavior Challenge" update: View Challenge Page (http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/strange_behavior/view_entries.php?challenger=13405)
Latest Update: Final Image: The Egg
http://assets.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/19/13405/13405_1194819441_medium.jpg (http://forums.cgsociety.org/showthread.php?p=4768858#post4768858)
|
|
Thaldir
07-05-2007, 08:29 PM
Hey, Sasha! :)
Welcome to the Challenge, it's great to see you here! :bounce:
http://assets.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/19/13405/13405_1183664337_medium.jpg (http://assets.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/19/13405/13405_1183664337_large.jpg)
O.K, here we go!
Question is: what is considered to be normal and what is considered to be strange? It depends from the point of view...
In the society of sophisticated chickens, where normality is to lay jewel eggs, the appearance of the absolutely "normal" egg is VERY STRANGE!
I will try to explore the simple egg shape in all possible ways: this particular chicken society is very rich and build around the egg. There egg shaped laps and windows, food plates and jewels... Their chicks are coming from Faberge eggs, and their nests are made of silk egg shaped pillows. Appearance of the absolutely normal egg with a droplet of shit on it creates a big shock in the chicken house.
This is the first concept... Let's see where it will go :)
Hey Tiziano,
You are here too, and I am very glad to see you!
And so, we compete again :D
Thaldir
07-05-2007, 08:57 PM
Indeed! As Neville would say: "The family is reunited now". :)
I'm really looking forward to this Challenge picking up steam (as it already seems bent on doing).
Ivy00
07-05-2007, 10:12 PM
lol funny chickens :) glad to see your thread started and such a cute concept
Tiziano, it's exactly what he (Neville) says :scream:
Linda, thanks! I imagine lot's of small situations going on around the main character, like a little fat chick stuffing itself with sweet corn while nobody is watching :D . Hope people will come with some more funny ideas.
icedeyes
07-06-2007, 10:44 AM
welcome to the challenge Sasha... Glad to see you around... the concept looks quite funny... keep it up
Thanks, George :)
I never tryed to do funny cartoony things, so lat's see how far I will be able to push this one.
HAHA Great! Some more Chickens! I'll be watching this one!
-BB
kingjai
07-06-2007, 09:11 PM
"Appearance of the absolutely normal egg with a droplet of shit on it creates a big shock in the chicken house."
That is very funny, ahhah i can't wait until the next iteration. where does this scenario even come from? ahaha
digital-bobert
07-06-2007, 09:42 PM
sounds amusing!
Demitsuri
07-07-2007, 06:53 PM
Hey Sasha. It's really nice to see you in.
Your concept looks good. :thumbsup:
Are you going to create work in realistic manner or maybe cartoonish style?
Goodluck
Bartosz:
Seems to me, that may people find chickens funny :D
King:
A couple of years ago I saw an image of the golden egg on the silk pillow (it was commercial for Post Denmark I think), and the idea of a poor chicken that had misfortune to lay a golden egg was sitting in my head since. And than last Thursday I was sitting in the bus on the way home from work, and it was raining hard, and I was all cold and wet and wishing for a good sunny weather, when I remembered my mum complaining about 35-43 degrees hot burning air in my home country. I thought, we both would gladly switch places right now... And then suddenly - flop :lightbulb - everything in my chicken image just switched to opposites! And the egg with a droplet of shit is actually my childhood memory - I was born in a little town, and every morning it was my job to collect eggs from the chicken house, and believe me, they not always looking as pretty as the ones we buy in supermarket :).
Bobby:
Yeh, you can't imagine what's going on in my head! :scream:
Dimitri:
Hej, my friend :wavey:! I am very glad to see you! Thanks for visiting my thread! Are you going to participate? I was looking for your thread, but couldn't find it :shrug:... I am thinking to get realistic environments and objects (a chance to get more familiar with mentalRay), but get all the chickens in very exaggerated cartoony poses. I have no idea how to approach the look of them yet - it will take some experimentation, I guess.
TheFirstAngel
07-07-2007, 11:46 PM
hi Sasha ^^ great to see you here too, i enjoyed your previous challenge entry a lot and came to wish you lots of fun and good luck on this one :D cheers :beer::buttrock::wip: let it rock
Hi Sacha, :wavey:
Thanks for worm welcome! I am very happy to see you here, and sure this is going to be an interesting challenge for all of us!
And hey, I enjoyed watching your work, and learned quite a bit from you, and quite egoistically planning to do the same this time too :D
Demitsuri
07-08-2007, 03:49 PM
I'll watch for your progress very close and hope to learn something from your work.
I'm planing to join challenge little later in animation forum. I just want to be sure what i'm doing and how. :)
Thanks, Dima, I am flattered by your high evaluation of my work :D
Looking forward for your thread, and can't wait to see what kind of strange idea you will come with!
gpepper
07-08-2007, 08:08 PM
The idea looks cool !
Let's see what's next.
http://assets.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/19/13405/13405_1183927841_medium.jpg (http://assets.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/19/13405/13405_1183927841_large.jpg)
Here is generic chicken, that's going to be a base for all the chickens.
It doesn't have any character, but from here I am going to pose it and push it into the different characters of different chickens.
It's also naked now, and I haven't decide yet what I am going to do with feathers... One possibility is to bring it into ZBrush after posing and sculpt them there as a volume of the body, and add some extra ones later...
AxelAlonso
07-08-2007, 09:53 PM
Hi Alexandra,
I simply was laughing once I read your story,:thumbsup: it was like a movie going on, I kind of relate your story, since I also used to pick up eggs in the early morning on my grandmother’s house and they look ugly!. But more to the point of your idea, I think twisting the interest of pretty for ugly its as strange as original, I like it…I like the idea of your little fat chicken whom no one pays attention on him, and I think the hen moms, have so much potential in the cartoony way. I can wait to se how you are going to put all this together…but there’s lots of time
SueParr
07-09-2007, 08:24 AM
I think your story reads well through that "stillmatic", and your chook (= chicken) is full of personality. This should be good!
icedeyes
07-09-2007, 08:28 AM
The base model looks just fine... kee it up Sasha...
TheFirstAngel
07-09-2007, 11:16 AM
you could try particle feathers, mapbased size, so when you blend the maps you can easily animate even make the feathers "stand up" and do wing feathers extra so they are rigable.if that makes sense ^^ nice basemodel :D keep on going :D
Pfeiffer:
Thanks, I guess I ma joining this chicken run :scream:.
Axel:
Glad you laked my idea :D! So, I can see there are others on this artistic forum who have started their career from picking eggs :scream:... This one is going to be a really challenge for me to get working the catroony stuff, because I am tend to go towards realism (well, I am not very good at it yet, but tendency is there).
Susan:
Hey, my friend! :wavey: Thanks for visiting my thread! I am very glad you liked the idea - and you know it's going to be difficult one for me! Don't you think this chicken is a bit too realistic for the concept?
George:
Thanks! Doing my best...
Sacha:
Thank you for advice! I understand what you mean, and it sounds like a good idea. May be you can point me towards a tutorial on this subject?
icedeyes
07-09-2007, 02:45 PM
I don't really remember what software you use but if you are using maya here is a script that might help
http://www.highend3d.com/maya/tutorials/dynamics_fx/Particle-Replacement-of-Geometry-Script-298.html
as well as this little tut
http://www.highend3d.com/maya/tutorials/dynamics_fx/How-to-fade-particle-instancer-267.html
The second one is an exaple for how you can change properties per particle... If you find the exact property you want to change from the listener, you can change any property per particle.
I hope that helps...
Demitsuri
07-10-2007, 09:21 AM
Nice modeling. :thumbsup:
Keep it going.
Do you have sketches of characters already or you going to model them right in 3D. :)
SueParr
07-10-2007, 10:23 AM
About the chickens' realism vs cartoon style....
Now this is just my opinion, of course, but:
I definitely don't think that the chickens' realism is in any way in conflict with the rest of the scene or the story. They look like high quality cartoon figures right now because they're all smooth and grey and lacking the texture and shading details which would make them more realistic - maybe if you do too good a job with the feathers I'll have to reevaluate. Something less realistic would be less interesting to me. But then, simple cartoon characters often bore me. Maybe trying to copy a defined style isn't as important as having your own style. If your own style leans towards realism, then it does that, and that's that.
Having human expression around the eyes - widened surprised eyes, or furrows in the brow, etc, would get it back to being cartoony. And in your "stillmatic" you have an exaggerated bend in the legs of the chicken that's just laid the egg, which again makes it cartoony.
Kei-Acedera
07-10-2007, 02:40 PM
hehehe the chicken is looking really funny! looking great Alexandra!
George:
Thanks a lot for help! I am in Maya, and I am going to try out those things soon (I have a bit of the rush at work right now).
Dimitri:
Thanks! I don't have character sketches - I am very bad at drawing :sad: I tryed, but it's not presentable... But I have a very clear idea how things should look, and after posing the character, I am going to bring it into the ZBrush and design there.
Susan:
I hope you are right - future will show :). I will do some experimenting with feathers and see how it will go, but the biggest "cartoonizm" will probably come from exaggerated poses and facials, as you say, human expression around eyes. I am just concerned that I will get carried away trying to get things looking "right" and will go too far away from the concept... Stop me if I will!
Kei:
Glad you liked it, and thanks for visiting my thread :D
AxelAlonso
07-10-2007, 08:23 PM
Hi Alexandra, :)
I am sure you are going to do just great! Just try to remember, always your style, and be true to your self. About cartoon texturing can be in a way photorealistic or if not the lighting...like Pixar’s mini short "the birds" ...
Try to use as reference the dog's eyebrow...and do the body types in a way you can relate a person's specific body type so it’s easier to relate to the character's behavior.
kingjai
07-11-2007, 08:57 PM
Hey the chicken is looking good, it's got a nice style to it, it brings out the dorkiness of a chicken. haha it's good! I think what u've got is good, just do what you think will get the most impact, if it's too realistic, it's not gonna work, neither if it's too cartoony. I think if you keep going on ur inutition, you do just fine! =)
Thanks for support, Axel and King!
Your encouragement and advice are very much appreciated!
Yeh, it will be a bit of the challenge to hit the right mixture of cartunism and realism... But with support like this I am going to be just fine :D!
cbernardo
07-12-2007, 11:17 AM
Hi, Alexandra,
Really funny concept! I love your story! Your chicken looks great!
Cheers,
Carlos
MartinNielsen
07-12-2007, 11:39 AM
Hey musi :wavey:
Welcome to the challenge and have fun. Fine chicken btw. :)
nandlaskar
07-12-2007, 12:13 PM
hey coming along well.Best of luck for the challenge :thumbsup:
Hey my friends, thanks for support and nice words, appreciate!
Carlos:
The story keeps growing in my head, and people think I am "strange" when I start lathing to myself in the bus :eek:
Martin:
Thanks for welcoming! So, we are competing together again :D
Rishikesh:
Thank you very much! And good luck to you too!
http://assets.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/19/13405/13405_1184352715_medium.jpg (http://assets.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/19/13405/13405_1184352715_large.jpg)
I want to share a very good software experience with you, guys. It's not often you take a peace of software and enjoy it from the first moment of use.
My friend recommended me one little program called UVLayout. It's incredibly easy and intuitive to use, very easy to learn, stable and gives you quick and very good results.
This was my first use of it, and here you see the results.
I recommend it - it's great! Ones you try it you wouldn't want to make your UV's any other way!
You can find trail version, along with some feature videos, here:
http://www.uvlayout.com/index.php?option=com_wrapper&Itemid=50 (http://www.uvlayout.com/index.php?option=com_wrapper&Itemid=50)
cbernardo
07-14-2007, 02:06 PM
Thank you for the tip, Sasha!
I'll try it too! Your UVs looks great!
Cheers,
carlos
Thanks, Carlos :)
You will not regret trying UVLayout...
And I am putting a simple ring into my generic chicken, and may be today later will post the first pose of the hero chicken...
Demitsuri
07-15-2007, 12:50 PM
The layout looks great :thumbsup:
I'll try that tool too.
Ivy00
07-15-2007, 02:01 PM
great chickens! so which came first the chicken or the egg ... bleh couldn't help the bad joke. This is coming along nice musi :)
Thanks, Dima and Linda :).
And in this case the GENERIC CHICKEN is the first, and all Faberge eggs are the second :D
Ha-ha...
http://assets.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/19/13405/13405_1184517173_medium.jpg (http://assets.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/19/13405/13405_1184517173_large.jpg)
O.k, the generic chicken is rigged and skinned, and here is the first try to pose her (before ZBrush work and without feathers).
http://assets.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/19/13405/13405_1184517452_medium.jpg (http://assets.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/19/13405/13405_1184517452_large.jpg)
SORRY, the wrong image! Here we try again :)
The generic chicken is rigged and skinned, and here is the first try to pose her (before ZBrush work and without feathers).
MartinNielsen
07-15-2007, 06:56 PM
Looks like it's amazed by it's own private parts. Sorry for that ;-) Fine work, musi...
Micro26
07-16-2007, 12:34 AM
indeed a very funny concept ,maybe the head is bend a bit too much,try exprerimenting with the chickens pose .
Cool work so far.:thumbsup:
SueParr
07-16-2007, 07:42 AM
I agree with that about the head being bent a bit too much.
I suppose you have remembered that a bird turns its head sideways at what it's looking at because it only focuses with one eye, which is on the side of the head - but you might have chosen to make it look "head on" because it's a cartoon bird.
icedeyes
07-16-2007, 08:38 AM
I have to agree with the posts above Sasha... the pose feels strange right now... you could try a C shape for the neck or even the whole body... i think that would work better for your image...
snance
07-16-2007, 06:06 PM
This is a great idea....very funny.
I love the idea of the chicken..."what just came out of me!!!"
yeah...maybe the chicken needs to have his head turned a bit.....but I really like the overall concept. Very strong.
Hey guys,
Sorry for a long silence - I was VERY busy at work...
Martin, Fotis, Susan, George, Scott
Thank you very much for your comments, appreciate!
I agree with you - the head is bent too much... I am going to work on the pose, and on the shape of the chicken too. And it's a choice to make this chicken to look strait, I am going to flatten her "face" to get more cartoony feel.
She should be looking like a big fat mama that's holding her multiple dresses up because she is scared of the mouse :D.
Thanks for support, guys! I hope to get some time to work on this in coming weeks.
killer-instinct93
08-06-2007, 05:31 PM
I think it's an interesting idea, to make the behavior strange only to the world of the image itself, but I think the idea only works if you have time to develp it, like in an animated short. In a single image, unless one reads your explanantion afterwards, its going to look maybe too normal.
I might rethink the main idea being a real egg, perhaps you could just have something strange hatching from the egg, like a goat or something.
Terrrific modelling job though
http://assets.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/19/13405/13405_1187965808_medium.jpg (http://assets.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/19/13405/13405_1187965808_large.jpg)
This is the composition test with generick chickens, just to see how it works.
What do you think?
I am at the place where I have very limited internet access, so sorry for not checking on your works, my friends :(
icedeyes
08-24-2007, 05:15 PM
Hey Sasha,
The composition is looking fine but the chick in the front is still looking at his private parts :scream:... change how this one looks and you are set i think...
have fun,
George
AxelAlonso
08-25-2007, 11:25 PM
HI Alexandra!
Funny silly chickens!:):scream::eek: I love them! Suggestions so far maybe it will be better to emphasize more the golden eggs, as the usual part of the world with maybe more of them! And I agree with George, about the mom’s position she does looks troubled by something else than the egg! Maybe rotate ¾ her body, and the head turning back to see the nest! But then again! You want that position for more reasons, that I haven’t seen yet, so please let me know! So I can help better!:) Take care!
MartinNielsen
08-26-2007, 09:53 AM
The overall composition is fine. But there's still a problem with that chicken's pose. It doesn't look like it's the egg, that is the center of attention... Maybe you should move the egg a little bit to the front, so it becomes more clear what they're looking at.
Demitsuri
08-30-2007, 09:50 PM
Hi Sasha.
Really nice progress with composition. :scream:
But i must agree with other replyers, there is some problem with "main" chiken. :shrug:
Yuo may want to play around her pose, maybe rotate her body little bit. :)
Not much help from me, sorry. :rolleyes:
Hej guys!
Thank you all for comments and support!
From now on I am hoping to get some more time for this.
Agree with all of you about the hero chicken - will work on it!
Kevin:
I see what you mean... I was thinking to make it a short, but I had a very busy summer, and working on a short requires much more time and resources. If I will keep getting as much work as i did this summer I afraid there will be no time even to finish a still :sad:. I even started thinking of reversing things to the "normal" golden egg concept - easier to understand. But for now I will try going with this as far as I can.
George:
Thanks! Now when I look at it I think to lower the camera even more to get the egg higher and more into the chenter of attention.
Axel:
Yes, there going to be much more of the Faberge eggs around, even with chicks in them. Just need time!
Martin:
You are wright, I will try to get closer to the egg.
Dima:
Yes, that main chicken is definitely a problem!
soapy
09-07-2007, 10:57 PM
Hey nice work so far Musi. The modeling is coming along very nicely. The droplet of shit shit comment cracked me up too for some reason. But I understand, I've been in a few chicken houses.
saghar
09-08-2007, 10:21 AM
helo musi . your work's very strang and Attractive and modeling very good .wish all bird,Cleck gold egg .:eek: i wait for look fainal your work's .:thumbsup:
http://assets.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/19/13405/13405_1189276756_medium.jpg (http://assets.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/19/13405/13405_1189276756_large.jpg)
And here is the next composition test. I used your advices, my friends, and tryed to make the egg more in the center of attention. There are much more of Faberge eggs to come. I also worked on the mam pose, hope it looks better.
And the first edition of the hero nest is there too.
Thank you all for help and honest opinions!
Hey Sasha, really nice composition! I like and like a lot the poses of your hens, great!! :thumbsup: A nice body lenguage of "what a hell is this this thing ? !! " :D Perhaps the mom can be touching her head with one of its wings, in an astonished attitude, only a comment.:)
Your idea of the Faberge is Very original and cool, and i want too see one , please!! :D
Again, really nice work Sasha!!
icedeyes
09-09-2007, 02:50 AM
That looks a lot better Sasha... no comments right now... keep us posted..
Jimmie and Zeinab:
Thanks a lot for visiting my thread and for support! :scream: Means a lot to me!
Fernando:
Thanks for visit! I am happy that poses are reading well and understandable. As for the hero hen I had another thing in mind, as if she had grabbed all her dresses and lifted them up - like a Big Mama suddenly got scared of the mouse :D. Will see if it will work, and if not - thanks for suggestion, I will use it! And Faberges are yet to come, a lot of them!
George:
Glad you liked it :)!
blakbird
09-10-2007, 10:51 AM
Hen poses are very realistic besides gives the sense of surprise, overally a spectacular scene,
Scattering previous jewel eggs help but we must see the jewel laying chicken clearly (in the background) to understand "well, these chickens lay jewel eggs, ordinarily..!" without reading the "subject" line.
If you play with the angle or move the closest chicken on the right a little bit that will do the job i think.
Best wishes
I try to keep an eye for this thread
Demitsuri
09-10-2007, 11:32 AM
Hi Sasha
Composition looks much better now.Keep it up. :thumbsup:
AxelAlonso
09-11-2007, 12:56 AM
Hi Sasha, or you rather Alexandra?:rolleyes:
The poses look way much better! I like it :thumbsup:!! Maybe the camera it is still a bit to much in front, but then again you have still time to decide that! and I think it will help a bit more of space in the composition so it wont look so over crowded, and light can help a lot to make stand out the” not so shiny new egg”.. great update!:)
http://assets.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/19/13405/13405_1189968091_medium.jpg (http://assets.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/19/13405/13405_1189968091_large.jpg)
And here the first Faberge eggs are coming! Those two will be glass, and will contain chicks. I will add some texture and shader variation to them.
All comments are welcome!
Thaldir
09-16-2007, 09:08 PM
I like your idea more and more with each update, can't wait to see those Fabergè eggs fully rendered. :cool::love:
SueParr
09-17-2007, 07:25 AM
What a feast of ornamentation. Nice eggs.
Hey Sasha, Holy eggs!! that are great!! really superb model, cool!:thumbsup: and beautiful detailed!! and join to Tiziano for a full texture render wish!!:bounce: Again really awesome work !!
gpepper
09-17-2007, 07:47 AM
excellent modeling !
Hurry up Alexandra !
:bounce:
Thanks for support, my friends :)!
Levent:
You are wright about jewel laying chicken! I will keep it in mind and try getting that background chicken's nest visible.
Dima:
Thank you, I am glad you liked it! There still some changes to come, but it's the guideline I will keep myself to.
Axel:
Yeh, now when you say - I can see that camera is a bit too close... Thanks!
And it's no matter Sasha or Alexandra: in my home country it's the same name, just Alexandra is more official, and Sasha is more home name :)
Tiziano:
Thank you, my friend! Shading is soon to come!
Susan:
Hey!!! I am very happy you liked the eggs! I am going to get some ornaments on glass too :scream:
Fernando:
Thanks a lot! Appreciate!
Gilles:
Thank you very much!
I am actually not sure I will be able to finish it, but I am heaving a lot of fun!
MartinNielsen
09-18-2007, 11:58 AM
Well. I don't think I have any new funny ideas for you. But in your latest concept you managed to draw the attention on to the egg, which is a huge improvement :thumbsup: The Faberge eggs look great as well, so just keep going. If you manage to make your chickens look wacky enough, you should be able to make this scene complete :bounce:
icedeyes
09-18-2007, 07:18 PM
hey Sasha... Faberge eggs look amazing... great little details... keep it up
AxelAlonso
09-19-2007, 08:32 AM
HI Sasha -Those “Faberge Eggs” look amazing :eek: (http://forums.cgsociety.org/misc.php?do=getsmilies&wysiwyg=1&forumid=0#)!Really like the model, the base, and the entire Victorian look, hope to see the texture you are going for. Good work!:thumbsup:
Demitsuri
09-19-2007, 09:27 PM
Faberge eggs looks really great. :scream:
Very well modeled and very gracefull, especially those little figures. :thumbsup:
Great work.
Martin,
George,
Axel,
Dima,
Thanks for visiting and support, my friends! Your comments, kind words and suggestions very much appreciated!:buttrock:
http://assets.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/19/13405/13405_1190471196_medium.jpg (http://assets.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/19/13405/13405_1190471196_large.jpg)
O.k, first shading test for Faberge egg.
There are still some issues with glass, render, but mostly it's because there is no environment yet.
I am working on the chick for that egg now...
MartinNielsen
09-22-2007, 06:24 PM
Now that's a beautiful egg! :thumbsup:
Thaldir
09-22-2007, 07:19 PM
Fabergè would be proud! :thumbsup:
Tiziano and Martin, thank you very much :D!
And this is only the first one!
varma
09-23-2007, 01:13 PM
Very nice!
:)
Hey Sasha, awesome first shading test for the egg, looks totally amazing!! cool work!! :thumbsup: and great texture detail!! Again great work!! :)
Mathias and Fernando, thank you so much! :D
I am working on the chick inside this egg now and strugling a bit with fur...
But soon I will post an update on it :)
Demitsuri
09-26-2007, 04:01 PM
Beautifull work, even for first shading test. :thumbsup:
soapy
09-26-2007, 09:00 PM
Wow nice work on the egg Musi! I couldn't quite envision how great it would look until you got the shaders on.
nwiz25
09-27-2007, 05:15 AM
really love that egg my friend! :love: :p waiting to see the entire scene come alive! :eek: .. by the way .. wat 3d software are you using? u mentioned you were struggling with fur n all .. so i did a little search for both softwares .. 3dsmax and maya .. :p .. here are the links .. hope it helps ya :p
maya -
http://www-viz.tamu.edu/courses/tutorials/rlogan/present/fur_pres.html
3dsmax - using vray fur
http://cgheaven.net/viewtopic.php?t=323&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0
3dsmax - hair and fur basics ( video )
http://www.tutorialized.com/view/tutorial/Hair-fur-basics/14084
looking forward to the next update! :D .. cheers my friend! :beer: god bless!
Dima and Jimmie:
thank you my friends for kind words :D!
Neville:
Thank you so much, my friend! :)
I am in Maya, and that tutorial you linked for me is of REALLY big help! There are some tricks I will most definitely use! Appreciate a lot!
I am looking for info how to use Equalizer maps, at least how such a map would look and how it works (my UV seems are visible when I have fur applied and I need to hide them), and somehow it's difficult to find that info... May be I am just looking in the wrong places :shrug:
Thanks again for help and support!
varma
09-27-2007, 10:01 PM
Hei Alexandra!
You have shown great ability to make believable shaders for this work so far!
I use Maya too, and I too have had some problems with seam and fur dividing over the seams. That's probably why I don't use Maya fur much, instead I use the hair module which offers more control! Perhaps you find more info about your problem with fur if you seek through the net!
Wish you luck anyways!
:thumbsup:
http://assets.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/19/13405/13405_1190930833_medium.jpg (http://assets.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/19/13405/13405_1190930833_large.jpg)
So far I came with the first chick in the egg and it's fur. I managed to solve the UV seem problem :)
Now it needs some render tweaking...
This one is going to be the one on the shelf, looking down at that strange egg :)
All comments and suggestions are very welcome!
Hey Sasha, only one and unique word : AWESOME !!
Bloody fried chickens!! :D that was really charming and funny, i love your idea with the little chicken in the fabergé egg !!!
Perhaps some differents tones of yellow and a bit of green for the chicken's "fur" and more harder reflection on the egg's crystal (fresnel effect) in order to achieve a bit more crystal look, only a comment
Again, marvelous work Sasha !! Cheers :beer: (that chicken and egg deserve a pair of cold beers :D )
Mathias, I like Maya's hair module better too, but I think for this purpose fur is more suitable. Well, we will see :). Thanks!
Thank you, Fernando!
Agree, it needs some color variation, and I will add it. I will decide later when and how to do that: there is still way too much work on other elements waiting to be done :). Most likely I will do it in post, like paint over adjustment.
I am glad you liked it!
soapy
09-29-2007, 05:07 PM
Hey Sasha nice work, funny little chick.
It looks like the glass is solid and goes right to the chick? Is it supposed to be like that? Did you put an inner wall in the eggshell? I guess it doesnt matter since it looks nice in any case, but just wondering.
Hi Jimmie,
Thanks for visit! :)
Yes, the egg has an inner surface, but it still looks like solid... I was worried about it, and it's good you pointed it out, because I was wandering if anybody will comment on that... I guess i need to make the eggshell thicker for it to be noticeable. I will do that!
I did some work on the image over weekend, but there is nothing that's finished enough or worth showing...
And time is going fast, and I am starting to get stressed over it! :argh:
plasteredcat
10-01-2007, 01:04 PM
Excellent work so far, Sasha! I'm quite expectant about how everythig will come together in the final image... Good idea and really nice work up to date!:thumbsup:
AxelAlonso
10-03-2007, 10:28 PM
Hi Sasha! Love the new out come of the renders!:thumbsup: I think I have no idea what you are doing technically! Coz it hurts my head! If I think too much on it! :rolleyes:
I use Maya only for homework! But the egg shell looks pretty shiny and love the design, maybe I was hoping to see some jewels on it as well, I don’t know if you were going for that look as well, and for the fur of the chicken it looks very believable to me! I mean it got some Disney style on it so go for it! ha ha! Love the bog cartoon eyes! Ooh! If they got some color that will be nice to! But you know only a comment! Great Work!:D:thumbsup:
Raul, thank you very much!:)
Axel, thanks, my friend :). Jewels are to come on other eggs, and I was thinking to do some paint over on eyes and where it's needed - if I will be able to finish it! There still much work to do on it, and I have not much spare time :shrug:
Well, we will see...
chaitanyak
10-05-2007, 05:22 PM
great work with the uv mapping.. :thumbsup:
like ur last render.. reflection is a bit too fuzzy imo, but i can live with it if you can :D
http://assets.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/19/13405/13405_1191712767_medium.jpg (http://assets.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/19/13405/13405_1191712767_large.jpg)
Just to see how textures work together.
The nest is not fully textured, and lighting and shadows to be tweaked too.
All comments are very welcome.
Chaitanya, thanks for visiting, and I think you are right about reflections.
Hey Sasha, wooow !! :eek: I love your royal and luxurious hen house, great!! The paper carpet on the wall is a really nice touch and the carpet texture for the neast is awesome!! :thumbsup: and cant wait to see the textured and shaded hens ( can you post one of them? please! :)). Great and awesome work like always Sasha!! Cheers!
P.S. The door of the hen house will be a superb backlight.... clever girl :D
Thank you very much, Fernando!
I am very glad you liked my hen house :)
I am working on hero chicken now, but can't get those feathers going :sad:... First of all, mentalRay doesn't want to render raytraced shadows properly - I am out of options trying to find what's going wrong here :shrug:... I will use a couple of more hours on it and will move on on something else. Hopefully, solution will come later...
Thaldir
10-07-2007, 07:12 PM
High-class hen-house indeed! Beautiful work, Sasha!
I'm sorry, not knowing the first thing about 3 D I cannot be of any help with the feathers :sad: .
I'll most definitely cheer you on, though, I want to see this one finished!:love:
http://assets.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/19/13405/13405_1191783630_medium.jpg (http://assets.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/19/13405/13405_1191783630_large.jpg)
This is how far I am at this point...
Looks a bit crowded, isn't it?...
May be I should pull camera a bit back?
And still struggling with feathers...
MartinNielsen
10-07-2007, 08:31 PM
Nice to see the whole scene at this stage of development. But that beautiful egg seems a bit out of place. Like it is put away for no reason. Maybe I'm missing something here?
Tiziano, thank you so much, my friend! I am very glad for your cheering and support!
Sometimes that's the thing that makes you keep going :)
Like now for me, when I am out of ideas about those feathers! But I think eventually it will come, hopefully before the deadline :D.
Thanks again, it's very sweet of you!
Martin, the lonely egg is going to get a big company of other eggs, the whole shelf is going to be populated by them :).
Hey Sasha, nice update! the smooth forms of the "mom hen" its really cool! and like i say before, i love the body lenguage of your hens!! great!!:thumbsup:
I see that the farest hen has a "normal" egg in her neast too, that is the idea? or put you a fabergé egg in that place ?
I agree with you to move the camera a bit back and perhaps a bit down and pitch up a bit (and a bit wide angle lens..... much bits...... hahahaha :D )
And how you go with the feathers of the hens? I dont know much about Maya and Mentalray ( I use Lightwave ) Perhaps if you increase the threshold option for the raytrace shadows or the threshold rendering, the render can works well ( I dont know if in Mentalray have this options or similar, i´m talking if i'm working in lightwave, sorry :) If you are using radiosity, increase values, more rays per evaluation and indirect bounces - the problem is that the time of render increase too :) - and the last, if you are using a HDRI image to lighting via radiosity, blur the image, ahhh and another option, use motion blur when render, render a forward frame )
Again, great work Sasha! Cheers!
AxelAlonso
10-08-2007, 11:59 PM
Hi Sasha, love the design on the fabrics it’s really special and original:thumbsup:, like a lot the idea of zooming out the camera, and I agree on Ferx about the lens modification, but not big dio for now, since nothing its final render still! I hope you have already sort out the problem of feathers! I am sure its going to look fantastic!:)
Fernando, thanks a lot for tips! :bounce: Specially for render tips! Some of them are applicable for Maya too.
Axel, thanks for support, my friend! I am glad you liked those fabrics, it means a lot to me to know that it works and I don't need to get back to it! :scream:
I will modify the camera as you say, guys, thanks for confirming my doubts! And I got an idea how to fix those feathers! Soon my chickens will hot some covers :)
nwiz25
10-11-2007, 11:51 PM
yup yup! the scene is coming up really well! :p :bounce: love the chicken's expressions! really says a lot! :p even the fabric has got that soft lacy look! very cool indeed! :p
i think the wood can do with some more bump and little bit of specularity
also .. just an idea .. maybe the faberge egg can use some glistening or a highlight glow since theres a strong lightsource from the other side .. ( me was wondering how to get it too ;) ) waiting to see your next update buddy! :D god bless! :love:
DougFerreira
10-13-2007, 02:25 AM
Hi Musi!This is a nice piece!The modeling on the faberge eggs is very beatifull,I am very curious to see those chikens with feathers!(I know that can be difficult!I worked on a 3d commercial with chikens,and the feathers made some people crazy...)but you will be lucky!I saw that you are danish,one of my best friends is a danish animator!!Do you know a company called A-film ??All the best for you in the competition!
UldFerr
10-13-2007, 03:38 AM
Hello Sasha,
I think I can call you Sasha, right?
I love your scene, there is a lot of humor on it, and of course, humor it’s always a good choice. As you already now, I am more of the dramatic type, so I admire people who can work with a lighter approach.
I agree with Neville, the wood on the table look a little to plain next to all those rich textures.
Congrats and good luck.
Kei-Acedera
10-15-2007, 02:21 AM
Looking nice Alexandra! The chicken is very cute!
http://assets.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/19/13405/13405_1192547182_medium.jpg (http://assets.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/19/13405/13405_1192547182_large.jpg)
Check out the feathers and shader on the red chicken on the background! This is the best I could come with at this point.
I also changed the camera position a little.
Sorry for being quiet here... I am not too well, and today is the first time in 6 days I had enough health to do something on this...
Thanks for all your support, my friends! I really value it and appreciate it!
DougFerreira
10-16-2007, 04:30 PM
hope you get really well soon,and back to the forum!Your feathers are going well!best wishes!
karko
10-16-2007, 04:42 PM
Nice work May be too intelectual? But i hope this will be not harmful for you…because this is a very excellent idea !
chickens texturing with SSS is very good and the chickens expressions are funny successful !
Marc
elmasfeo
10-16-2007, 08:26 PM
Good work Alexandra! I think the feathers are looking very good, I like the style that you are giving to them....
get well soon :thumbsup:
Hey Sasha, first, I hope you feel much better :)
Really nice update! I like a lot the lighting on the scene, and the traslucent light on the right hen's peak its really great!!
About feathers, i think looks good. My suggestion ( because the short time left) is that you make your render with your actual feather texture and render options, and retouch it on photoshop. ( I love your concept and i hope you finish it. Its really cool!)
Again, great work Sasha !! (and take care of you and get well soon :) )
Demitsuri
10-16-2007, 10:04 PM
Hi Sasha.
Work looks really great. :)
Feathers looks great, especially they shape, wich gives chiken very "surprising" emotion. :scream:
SSS and texturing are good too. Maybe the eyes need a little bit more sss.
Get well soon :)
MartinNielsen
10-17-2007, 06:57 AM
Nice to have you back online :love:You can't fail us now.
I think you did a good job with the feathers. I agree with Ferx' wise words though :)
Hey good people:)
I am very grateful for all your advices and support, my friends!
Neville,
glad that expressions work, and texturing and shading of fabrics too, and very glad that you like my progress :scream:. Agree with you about the wood, and more specularity and bump are on the way in next update. And glistering and some highlight bloom on eggs are going to come a bit later in post - I will remember it, thanks!
Doug,
Thank you :). Yep, feathers are a nightmare! And think, it's only a still, not animation! Well, I ended up placing them by hand (we are yet to see how it will work on the hero hen)! I know A-film! In fact, I was offered an internship at A-film when I was student.
Uldison,
Sasha is my home-name-for-friends :). Actually, it's my first try of doing something with humor - I am dramatic type myself! For this I just decided to try it, and see if I can. And wood improvement is on the way. Thanks!
Kei,
Thanks for stepping by! I am very happy you like it!:D
Marc,
Thanks for visiting my thread! Yep, I have a tendency to over complicate things some times... It's good to know that expressions are working - that was a big concern for me! I had to fake eyebrow to get what I wanted :scream:
Fernando (elmasfeo),
Thank you very much, it's a big thing to know that I am on the right way with feathers! Thanks for support!
Fernando (Ferx),
Appreciate your help, my friend, thank you! I am very happy you like my progress! And I am going to take your Photoshop advice to the extreme: I hope to render every element of the scene separately and then put it all together in Photoshop, with retushing, and overpaint, and depth of field, and light fog... That's the plan!:)
Dima,
I am always happy to see you here, and I am very grateful that you are following my progress! Thank you, my friend! :) I will work some more with eyes shaders and give some SSS to them.
Martin,
Thank you, your support means a lot to me! I will try my very best to finish this! :D
I am getting better, and I am very happy about it! :D We appreciate our health only when we are about to loose it...
http://assets.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/19/13405/13405_1192619236_medium.jpg (http://assets.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/19/13405/13405_1192619236_large.jpg)
And another hen got it's feathers.
And some changes on wood...
icedeyes
10-18-2007, 06:12 PM
hey Sasha,
feathers look great as do the expressions on the faces of the chicken... really good work... do you have sss on the beaks? if you do, you might have to tone that down a bit... it looks too translucent right now...
keep it up,
George
http://assets.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/19/13405/13405_1192792381_medium.jpg (http://assets.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/19/13405/13405_1192792381_large.jpg)
Started on hero hen feathers. Some more Faberge eggs are in. Chicks in eggs are going to be rendered separately, right now I can't get the fur rendering wright.
Hi George,
Thanks, my friend!
I will look at that SSS values, thanks!
I hope to see your image finished one day!
Hey Sasha, really great update. I like a lot the elegant fabric for the neasts, really cool! and the fabergé eggs look awesome.
About feathers, i like the look on it, are like when the hair stands on a scare situation, and that is a great detail on the hens attitude, really cool!! :thumbsup: I love all the atmosphere on your scene. Again, awesome work Sasha, and cant wait to see the little chickens :D
Hi Fernando,
Thank you, my friend, for all support you give me and all the useful advice!
There is still lots to do... But I am planing to start rendering tomorrow... And then Photoshop.
Thanks again!
http://assets.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/19/13405/13405_1192893331_medium.jpg (http://assets.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/19/13405/13405_1192893331_large.jpg)
Almost all elements are in. Some feathers are missing, some textures...
What do you think about placement of the things? Is there something out of place? Too much? Too little?
All help appreciated, thanks!
karko
10-20-2007, 04:49 PM
Sasha, maybe could you put white chicken with it egg on the right of your picture ?
Also, I think the big violet egg on the left is too big. Maybe, not to put this egg? or more little, or with a transparency material?
Marc.
AxelAlonso
10-20-2007, 07:28 PM
Hi Sasha, OMG the expressions are so funny I can see them now better!:thumbsup:, I love the design of the violet egg but maybe its a bit big and strong for the composition, so the sugestion about changeing the material in something more glassy, will be perfect, I also noticed some designs, might not look to close so they just look blur from far, so maybe why not keeping the big ones on the back , and the little printed deatils on the eggs in front ..but then again maybe its just the render for now:shrug:? Nice feathers:D ! I like a lot, how all its developing for sure!
cbernardo
10-20-2007, 11:55 PM
Great scene, Alexandra! The feathers are great! Very nice shaders and lights! I really like this composition with more fancy eggs. I think if you just bring the camera back and enlarge the scene the purple egg will looks smaller, what do you think? The expressions are great too!
Cheers,
Carlos
Hey Sasha, that fabergé eggs are simply awesome !! :thumbsup:
I agree that the purple egg on the front left is a bit bigger for the composition and think that a transparent materil without a change on size cannot work well , perhaps making smaller and without the base ( btw, that base is superb) and lying on the floor beside the opened base at left of the nest of mom hen, like the magnificent golden and red fabergé egg on the BG, and maybe the base lying on the floor too. About blue egg on the front right, perhaps you can put behind the right hen in order to look more on that hen. Again, awesome work Sasha !! Cheers!! (and time to put all the fuel on the motor !! :D )
The placement is lovely Alexandra, the only thing is, like everyone said, that foreground purple egg. Actually, the post you have before this current one, the egg is in a good position, it is more off to the left of the image.
DougFerreira
10-23-2007, 12:56 PM
placing those feathers by hand must have been hours of work! If I can give you a sugestion that will be clear out the silhouetes a bit more,avoiding the convergent lines on the big faberge egg and the leg of the main chiken,and the beak of the chiken that is looking to the normal egg,also the left wing of the main chiken with the body of the far chiken,what do you think?is this of any help?any help you wanna give on my piece will be welcome!
Marc,
Thanks for comments! I agree with you about the violet egg - it's too big and dominating, I think I will return it where it was. And will try getting that little chicken a better place :)
Axel,
Yep, it's a very useful comment about the big and delicate designs you gave me, thanks! So I am going to do some rearranging of eggs :D. And that purple egg is out of place for sure!
Thanks for help, buddy!
Carlos,
Thank you very much, I am glad you like how it looks :scream:! I am going to replace the purple egg, but I don't think I will move camera - you see, those chickens are naked where they are out of frame, and there is no time to give them some extra feathers :shrug:
Fernando,
Yes, replacing the eggs is absolutely necessary, I can see... That open base was meant to be for the new coming egg, that happened to come out as normal, but it doesn't seem to be reading properly... Thanks you for your advice, my friend, I am going to use it! You are such a help for me in this challenge! :buttrock:
Kamal,
Thank you very much :D! I have been thinking to return to the previous post's position of the foreground egg - your comment conformed my thoughts, thanks!
Doug,
That is a very valuable advice about converging lines! I totally agree with you and going to pay attention to it. Thank you so much for pointing that out! And yep, it took some time to get those feathers, but if I wasn't smart enough to find some automation solution :D
http://assets.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/19/13405/13405_1193167308_medium.jpg (http://assets.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/19/13405/13405_1193167308_large.jpg)
Another composition, trying to follow your advices, my friends.
What do you think?
I have started doing high res rendering.
The composition is splendid! :applause: Just pull through to the end my friend!:thumbsup:
UldFerr
10-24-2007, 05:54 AM
The scene is looking very good Sasha. The only thing that comes to me is the back light on the white chicken looking to bright to me. My eyes aways go back to that bright point and I can't really see all the awesome details on the scene. But, than again, congrats and good luck.
karko
10-24-2007, 05:53 PM
Maybe, The chicken in background is a few too dull, if we compare with the very graphic white chicken. Maybe you could put just a bit of ligth on right of this chicken?
And, why you cut the back of white chicken?
but if you are finished : good luck, Sasha! It's a very interesting idea, with original graphic composition!
Marc.
Hey Sasha, really great update !! I like a lot the new fabergé eggs position and think the action is cool centered on the "strange" normal egg :D . About back light is a bit hard on mom hen. You can render a frame with only mom hen underexposed and use with your normal render to control the range of lighth ( Or render only the light and shadows buffer on photoshop format for the same :) ). Again, great work Sasha !!
DougFerreira
10-25-2007, 03:34 AM
Hi Sasha!Very nice composition!Can I give only one more sugestion ?To put the purple faberge egg on that black area in front of the brown chicken,then it won't look so empty,and the "center" of the stage will be more clear for the eye! this is just a thought is allready very nice!
Demitsuri
10-25-2007, 10:33 AM
Totally awesome work. :scream:
Composition and feathers looks great, and all those faberge eggs too. :thumbsup:
Maybe the purple egg a little bit out of his place.
Good luck with finishing this nice work.
plasteredcat
10-25-2007, 07:02 PM
Hilarious!:scream: Fantastic piece so far... :D
I just miss a bit of filling light from the right, maybe...
http://assets.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/19/13405/13405_1193593011_medium.jpg (http://assets.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/19/13405/13405_1193593011_large.jpg)
What is the strange behavior? It depends... And mostly from what is accepted to be the normal behavior in the given society.
In some societies is normal to go around naked and strange to wear suits. I some - is normal to eat frogs, in others - it's strange. And is some - it's normal for chickens to produce Faberge eggs and strange to lay normal eggs.
So, definition of strangeness depends from the context?
OKMER
10-28-2007, 07:02 PM
Haha, great Alexandre!!!Composition realy busy though.Congratz on finishing a great funny pic!!!Egg power!!!Very best of luck on the final judgement buddy and hope to see you in the next challenge again
:beer:
Nemesix
10-28-2007, 07:08 PM
I love the idea and the final result. Very well done1 Soo funny :) Good Luck!
Sorry, I didn't post anything for a couple of days - I was busy trying to finish this...
Kamal,
I did pull through :) Thanks for encouragement, my friend!
Uldison,
I tryed to deem down the hero hen and shift the attention to the egg. Thanks to your comment, I was aware of that! Well, I don't know if I succeeded :D
Marc,
Yep, I took your advice about the background chicken and got it brighter, thanks! And it wasn't intentional that I cut the back of the white chicken... I even didn't notice it! If there would be more time, I would probably change it.
Fernando,
I did that trick with separate render for the mum chicken :scream:, thanks! Your advice as usual very useful, my friend!
Doug,
As you can see, I used your suggestion, and in fact, actually made another shelf with eggs to fill that empty space on the front of the background chicken. And it cleared the center!
Thank you so much, it was a good one!
Dima,
Thanks for support, my friend! I did change the purple egg's position, you where right about it!
Raul
Thank you, I am glad you liked it! And thanks for the fill light suggestion!
Thanks, Remko!
Just for the learning purpose, for the future: how would you change the composition to look better?
And see you in the next challenge! :beer:
ZªRª,
Thank you sow much!:)
AxelAlonso
10-28-2007, 07:50 PM
Sasha ! what a succes!:eek::thumbsup::applause: A great moment!
The expressions sell perfect the idea! it all turns so full of smart comedy and of your own style! Like it a LOT! :scream: Congratulations Sasha its been great to see you work and enjoy all your help! Thanks hope to see you in the next chalange!:wavey:
and you won already in my eyes! hahaha!:bounce:
DougFerreira
10-28-2007, 08:21 PM
Congrats Sasha!!I am very glad that I helped!hope we can meet again in future chalenges!Good luck on final judgement and best wishes!
UldFerr
10-28-2007, 09:26 PM
Hello Sasha,
well done friend and the back light works better now. I like it a lot.
Good Luck to you.
OKMER
10-29-2007, 01:18 PM
HI Alexandra!!Yesssaaiii, we got 2 more weeks..!!!
haaha.Well actually I don't think It's quit a problem in the composition and actually your pic really rocks!!!Love it!
A thought might be that maybe it could be nice to open your canvas a tiny little bit up to give it some more breathing space in between the different elements.
The chicken on the right in the foreground, right now his head touches the chicken in the background(the brown one) near the window).MAybe if you leave some space between them it will breath a bit more..Just a suggestion ofcourse!
To push the strange factor even more it could be cool to see a chicken with a special egg in his hands(maybe cleaning it), and looking at the normal egg just being really surprised(almost disgusted maybe).another thought like that..:-)
your pic is one of my fav's!!!Love chicken!haha
Are you gonna use these 2 weeks to work on it some more?
:beer: :beer:
Hey Sasha, woooow I love your concept !! you make an awesome work, really cool!! ( and the feathers are great :) ) Because we have two weeks more I´m sure you cant resist the temptation to still working on your image :D I´m thinking on Remko suggestions and is a good idea to make more wide your frame, the foreground fabergé egg cut a bit the composition and the background hen. My first idea is to eliminate that egg, but I know that is a difficult decision ( we never want take out objects that take many hours of work... its something that always happens to me.. :D ) The other option is open the scene, and put the fabergé egg more to left. Other suggestion is make wide the frame, make small the fabergé FG egg , and the brown hen pointing that egg and looking to the normal egg.:)
Again, great and really cool concept Sasha!
Demitsuri
10-30-2007, 10:37 PM
Hi Sasha!
Very well done. :thumbsup:
So much details but you were successful in keeping atention on "strange behaviour". :scream:
Is it final?
In any case I congrats you with great final, and wish you best of luck on voting. :)
Hi there,
Now that we got some more time, I am thinking to do some more work on it. I am not going to do too drastic changes to composition - it takes too much trouble to render the high res and recomposit and repaint the whole image, but all the things that can be fixed in Photoshop or with separate layer rendering I will do.
So I invite all of you to be critical and picky :twisted::D! All suggestions are very much welcome - even if I will not have time to do all, it's good to know how to improve things for the future.
Remko,
Thank you so much for finding time for your suggestions! I am most definitely going to move that foreground chicken on the right! But opening the canvas and adding another chicken would be too much work, I don't think I can finish it on time.
Thanks again! In the future I will try paying more attention to my compositions!
Fernando,
Yep, I can't resist going on tweaking it :D! I think I will use your idea of making the foreground egg smaller and move it even more out of the frame, thanks! I don't want to eliminate it all together - well, I like heaving close up elements... But I guess I will post some variants and see what people will say. Thanks for help!
Dima,
Thank you, my friend! :) Well, when I know we got some more time, I can't resist trying to improve it! For good or may be bad, we will see! I will really appreciate your critical meaning!
Uldison,
Thank you! I did render a separate pass with only volume light to achentuate it! And a differently lighted chicken on separate layer to blend with main render.
Axel,
Thanks, my friend! I am glad you like it! And I am very happy that you have been here so many times to help me!
Doug,
Thanks a lot! See you in next challenge, my friend!
nwiz25
11-03-2007, 08:02 AM
hey there my dear friend!:love: a big congratulations to you! :scream: me eagerly waiting for the final changes! love the feathers a lot! ( that really is hard work! .. paid off! )
i was wondering .. how about adding some rays behind the chicken ( the one looking down at the egg ) but add it in such a way that the egg comes in focus too ;) ..
wishing you the very best of luck! :thumbsup: god bless ya as always! :love:
Korendo
11-03-2007, 03:46 PM
The point of your concept that “strangeness depends from the context’ is well taken. Considering the international nature of this contest and the world, strangeness is relative. Great execution, love your extreme detail especially the Faberge eggs. :thumbsup:
http://assets.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/19/13405/13405_1194819441_medium.jpg (http://assets.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/19/13405/13405_1194819441_large.jpg)
Another version of final, with changes all you guys have suggested.
I think this is final final :)
What do you think?
GfxDjin
11-13-2007, 03:22 PM
Really funny piece, Sasha :applause: !
And very well executed :thumbsup: !
So now we finally know the real answer to the eternal question "The chicken or the egg?"... It was the Fabergé egg that came first, of course :D !
Hmmm... I wonder what a Fabergé chicken would look like :scream: !
I wish you good luck for the voting :bounce: !
elmasfeo
11-13-2007, 08:00 PM
good job musi! Im not sure if you consider this one the definitive final image, but for me it works perfectly, I think that the composition works well, driving you to the egg, the chickens and then the rest of the faberge eggs, and I also like a lot that atmospheric light, and of course all those small details...
congratulations, and good luck!! :) :bounce:
Hey Sasha, i love your concept!! I think your more wide last version work really well!! The whole atmosphere with the backlight puts a beautiful note on the elegant henhouse. The fabergé designs are superb !! and all details on your concept are simply awesome. You managed very well the feeling of surprise among hens, really cool!
The feathers do not stopped you :D , I like your determination, it is something I really admire :)
Really thanks for the great journey, I enjoyed every step in the development of your idea!
Congratulations Sasha for this awesome art work!! Best of luck my friend!! .... and, why not?? time for cold beers!! and a big tequila bottle!! :D Cheers Sasha!! :beer:
AxelAlonso
11-17-2007, 12:17 AM
Hi Sasha, the change does make a better yet piece of beauty and art work! :D Congratulations your chickens are more glam that they are used to be! The idea it’s brilliant and so your work and detail in it :applause: Bravo!
Thanks so much for the support that you had given so many times, I own you lots of good learned experiences, I wish you always the best and I am very much grateful for meeting you in this great world of talented artist like you!:thumbsup::scream:
gpepper
11-17-2007, 07:53 AM
You did a great job on shaders and render at the end !
Great Picture Alex !
OKMER
11-22-2007, 01:01 AM
Hi Musi!!!Hey great great ronfl pic man!Loev the chickens expression!You did a great job and hope well meet up again next time!All the best to you friend!Cheers:beer:
CGTalk Moderation
11-22-2007, 01:01 AM
This thread has been automatically closed as it remained inactive for 12 months. If you wish to continue the discussion, please create a new thread in the appropriate forum.
vBulletin v3.0.5, Copyright ©2000-2012, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.