View Full Version : Strange Behavior (Illustration) Entry: Michael Wilson
06-27-2007, 03:37 AM
Michael Wilson is entered in the "Strange Behavior Challenge" update: View Challenge Page (http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/strange_behavior/view_entries.php?challenger=12879)
Latest Update: Final Image: Asking for a Raise
06-27-2007, 03:56 AM
Hey it's great to see you in this one! Bring it on!
06-27-2007, 05:29 AM
Thanks for the support. I'll be posting a sketch sometime soon.
06-27-2007, 11:00 AM
Glad you decided to enter Miketche, it's gonna be fun.
06-27-2007, 01:14 PM
Good luck, I'll be following this closely!
06-27-2007, 07:38 PM
Good luck mate. I wish you all the best! :thumbsup:
06-28-2007, 04:59 AM
Ok, here's my concept. The little mouse employee is asking the big boss for a raise.
06-28-2007, 05:18 AM
xD i love the tail holding
lol only the brave get a raise
06-28-2007, 10:49 AM
if the little mouse help the big TREX from the tie, it would be even funnier... Great idea.. good luck
06-28-2007, 12:31 PM
That's one strong image already. I agree with Frooosty - the tail holding is a really nice touch
06-28-2007, 05:45 PM
I too realy like the concept, the nervous tail handeling behaviour is an inspired idea.
06-28-2007, 06:10 PM
dunno whats strange about that...looks like my real boss....lol
06-30-2007, 10:10 PM
Here I've started to block out the basic shape of the T-Rex. More detail to come.
07-01-2007, 06:28 AM
You've started modeling! Excellent! I guess that when you get to it, the T-rex's chair will be a bit 'modified' in order to accommodate the large lower body shape and legs.
I'm not feeling any more optimistic about the mouse's chances
07-01-2007, 06:52 AM
Yes, It's going to be very interesting to see how I am going to sit him down in a chair. Also a wearing a business suit.
07-01-2007, 06:53 AM
Now I'm starting to work in more detail.
07-01-2007, 07:01 AM
Looking at this model I'm building, I really now wish I had BodyPaint.
07-01-2007, 11:39 PM
More detail on the T-Rex
07-02-2007, 12:37 AM
I love it! And the head modeling is especially good :thumbsup: With the chairs and business suit, that should be great fun - so T-Rex just happens to wear extra-extra-extra-large suits with tailored small sleaves and that should just make it all look so much funnier.
07-02-2007, 04:24 AM
That's right. Up next is dressing him up. Smart business suit. You know, T-Rex only wears the best.
I put most of the detail in his head and hardly any in his feet. They will be behind the desk after all.
07-02-2007, 06:38 AM
This is a great concept - will the little mouse have a chance? :)
Nice start for the modeling too - looking forward to see how you solve the suit thing.
07-03-2007, 12:55 AM
You know, T-Rex only wears the best.
LOL! This is going to be great. Lovely funny stuff
07-04-2007, 01:07 AM
All dressed up with no place to go.
Haha, great job! That looks extremly funny! :D
07-04-2007, 02:39 AM
I agree with Erik. It's looking excellent. And the smarter the suit the more dangerous he looks!
07-04-2007, 06:55 AM
looking good! nothing better than a dinosaur in a suit.
07-04-2007, 09:56 AM
That's on slick dino Miketche, great progress.
07-05-2007, 02:52 AM
there you are too, and what an inspired concept..brilliant! Rex is coming along really well.
07-05-2007, 02:57 AM
A textured T-Rex.
07-05-2007, 04:24 PM
hehehe... this is going to be great.
07-05-2007, 05:50 PM
that suit really goes well with mr.Rex full on :scream: awesome i must say! :eek: love the details all over! :eek: :buttrock:
07-05-2007, 07:57 PM
Like the idea, keep it up.
07-06-2007, 01:36 AM
Beautiful texturing on T-rex :thumbsup: I'm amazed at how quickly you managed that
07-06-2007, 03:26 AM
very nice model
i tried a t rex head as trainning ..... but i've never had used 3D before ..... the structure stayed a little strange ... so many polygons and all stranges ^^
i just said that because its incredible how you made the model so easily ...... very nice!
07-06-2007, 05:52 AM
I was just going to say, it might be fun to have the Trex asking the mouse for a raise :)
07-06-2007, 08:46 AM
nice texturing on Rex Michael..looks great, I like the scratches you've applied
07-06-2007, 02:13 PM
Great texture work Mike, lots of style to the character.
07-06-2007, 04:49 PM
Thanks, I thought so too
Thanks for stopping by. It's an honor.
Thanks for your comments. Hopefully I can keep the detail up in the rest of the image as well.
Thanks for the encouragment and stopping by.
Texturing was pretty easy with the help of some photo refs of lizards.
Thanks for stopping by. Believe me, I couldn't have modeled a dinosaur a few years ago. I suppose you get better with practice and experience. I still don't consider myself as good as some of the excellent artists around here though. Keep at it.
That is a funny idea. But... I don't think it would work for the composition I have in mind. I want to get some dynamic movement in the final piece. My first sketch really doesn't convey my composition idea very well. Hope I can pull it off.
Thanks. I love your crazy critters as well.
Thanks. Hopfully the whole image will have lots of style. We'll see.
07-06-2007, 04:51 PM
awww..lookin great Michael!
07-07-2007, 07:15 AM
Here he is, the Big Boss.
At the rate I seem to be going I could be done in a month. Then I'll sit back for the next three months and watch you all finish your projects. Well, we'll see.
07-07-2007, 09:15 AM
wow. you work very fast. Good luck.
07-07-2007, 09:43 PM
Ok, so I've started modeling the mouse. This is just a sample of my modeling method.
07-07-2007, 10:11 PM
looks great Michael..nice mouse!
07-07-2007, 11:08 PM
Very good concept! Your characters are great!
07-08-2007, 12:46 AM
That's a very convincing mouse. Lovely work. Thanks for showing the stages of modeling too
07-08-2007, 08:49 PM
A T Rex and a mouse -- now that is strange :) Looking very good so far!
07-10-2007, 05:48 AM
Here is The Employee. Although in the final image you may just see most of his backside.
07-10-2007, 05:51 AM
nice little mousie.Best of luck for the challenge:thumbsup:
07-11-2007, 02:06 AM
great idea! Models are coming along nicely too!
07-11-2007, 08:16 AM
It's fantastic! Really nice mouse
These models look ace! Textures on the boss look very nice as well as the furryness of the employee.. Keep going!
07-12-2007, 01:11 PM
Great work on the mouse Mike, the expression and pose are perfect for the concept. Fantastic.
07-12-2007, 04:11 PM
I'm having a bit of a setback. My computer I'm creating this on is having troubles. I'm taking it into the shop today. Hopefully it won't cost too much to repair it and I don't lose any of my data.
07-13-2007, 11:28 PM
Sorry to here that Mike, i had the same trouble with the master and servant challenge, but thankfully i didn't loose any files, i hope all goes well for you as your work so far is fantastic.
07-14-2007, 06:48 AM
Well, I'm back in business. Looks like the problem wasn't as bad as I thought it was.
Time to start working on this again.
07-14-2007, 12:43 PM
yay, glad to here Mike.
07-14-2007, 02:22 PM
Ahhhhh......that little mouse is adorable! He reminds me of Stuart Little. No mouth though?
I agree with the others, the tail holding is perfect for the situation. Keep up the good work! :thumbsup:
07-17-2007, 06:15 AM
The Desk for our fearsom boss. Not sure how much of the top of the desk will be seen in the final, but always good to have some detail.
07-21-2007, 12:09 PM
Excellent desk. The slightly old-fashioned phone is perfect for the scene too. One thing I might suggest is to slightly reduce the size of the wood grain on the front surfaces. At the moment it makes me think the desk is fairly small
07-21-2007, 01:45 PM
Great update Mike, i love the logo on the front of the desk, classic jurassic.
07-27-2007, 02:27 PM
Working on the Composition. Just using basic lighting right now. And will be adding more detail to the background.
07-27-2007, 03:28 PM
Nice work on this so far. I especially love the camera angle, which is perfect!
One thing that might be fun is pinching down the skin around the front of Mr. Exman's eye a bit more, to give more of a human approximation to evil, mean eyes, where the brow comes down more in the center of a person's face. Or you may just want to stick to more realistic TRex anatomy... anyhow, just an idea. Good luck!
07-27-2007, 04:15 PM
that's so nice .... this idea is amazing :)
07-27-2007, 04:31 PM
Thanks for the crits. I've tried reducing the texture on the front of the desk. Hope it looks a bit more realistic.
Thanks for stopping by. I hope the desk symbol doesn't look to much like the Jurassic Park symbol.
Thanks. I was actually thinking of that myself. He need to look a bit meaner. I'll see what I can do.
Thanks for stopping by.
07-27-2007, 07:47 PM
loving it :thumbsup:
07-27-2007, 10:33 PM
I am liking this very much. Good concept and modeling. Keep up the good work! :thumbsup:
07-28-2007, 01:59 AM
Hey this is great seeing everything together like that. It looks fantastic. I reckon the wood tex on the desk works really well now too :thumbsup:
07-28-2007, 06:04 AM
Hey miketche, great concept so far I love it, I have a suggestion that might be a bit late at this stage of your progress “It’s just a suggestion please don’t hate me for it” have ever thought about switching paces – I mean the mouse is the boss and the T Rex is the employee – am quiet sure it will be a lot funnier and more strange.
Keep it man:thumbsup:
07-28-2007, 12:24 PM
wow! :eek: just wow! :eek:
i wonder who's the dentist? :surprised ... whoever he is ... he's doin a freakin damn good job keeping Mr.T.R.Exman's teeth in shape ... :eek:
hehehe :p awesome work mate! :thumbsup:
07-28-2007, 09:37 PM
Thanks. It's a lot of fun.
Thanks a lot. I'll sure try.
Yep, seeing it all start to come together is fun.
Thanks for stoping by. Funny thing is that has already been suggested. I think it would be funny as a role reversal, but this is the composition that has been rolling around in my head for a while and I don't think I could get a nice composition the other way.
Thanks. I'm sure Mr. Exman has a great dentist.
07-28-2007, 09:42 PM
Here is a light test and added background detail. The GI settings were set low for a faster render, but there are still a few things I don't like yet. It's a little too bright in the background so I'll be trying to darken that up a bit and I am getting a hot spot on the back wall for some reason I can't figure out.
The plant thing in the background was done with Cinema's Hair module and the feather object.
07-28-2007, 11:09 PM
Looking good Mike, are you going for a straight render or separate passes and composite ? You'll get much more control over the lighting with the latter.
07-28-2007, 11:15 PM
This concept is great.
2 things you may consider. 1 is that there is know way to tell that this mouse wants a raise. Maybe have the mouse exposing his pockets to show he is broke or holding documents to show he is debt.
2 is that the T-rex could use some more character. Smoking a cigar or wearing glasses could make him more boss like.
07-28-2007, 11:53 PM
great work Michael! you've really done alot since last time. i really like the camera angle you've chosen. love the Rex guy! and the logo on the desk is a nice touch!
07-29-2007, 08:23 AM
Of course! TRex would have plants in his office. Very nice!
Hey Michael, great work!! :thumbsup: (I don´t want a boss like your T rex :D )
I think the room office is a bit little. Perhasps the hands supported in the desk or striking it, and the telephone and the cup of coffe jumping out would add a more dramatic touch, a more threatening Trex boss, only a comment :) Again, great work and good luck and surely kooking forward for more updates !!:)
07-29-2007, 09:06 PM
I'm working with a straight render here. I have in the past done multiple layerd renderings, but for some reason with this one it seems easier just to do a straight render. I may do a multipass render for my final and do some post on it in Photoshop. Thanks
Some good suggestions there. I think I'll work on that a bit. I think it's important that the viewer can tell the mouse is asking for a raise.
Thanks for the support. It feels like this one is really coming along quickly.
That's right. Any Jurassic creature should have plants in it's office.
Thanks for the comments. I think I might do something with his hands, but I'm not sure so we'll see.
07-30-2007, 08:39 AM
Great progress here! As the rest I especially like the camera angle. Very good.
There seems to be some strechings in the texture on the Rexs' nose, but that's something I suppose you can easily fix in the end.
The idea of darkening the background sounds good - it will make the scene more frightening. I would'nt like to be employed at that office for sure :D
07-30-2007, 04:26 PM
Hey good render and idea, especially it's interesting in connection with a real world politic :)
So, as for render, may be you need some colour correction and play a little with a light.
Good work, keep on !
07-31-2007, 04:59 AM
Updated lighting test and few added details.
Ok, I need your help. I can't figure out how to better visually portray the mouse is asking for a raise. Everthing I think of involves some form of written item. I'm not sure I want the viewer to have to read some small text in the image to get what's going on.
07-31-2007, 06:18 AM
I like the new lighting a lot. Nice update. I'm sitting here scratching my head about how to convey that issue of asking for a raise and like you, each answer I get involves writing on something. The only suggestion I can make is that you just replace 'T.R. Exman' on that sign with 'Pay Officer' or 'Pay Office'. I'd hope that the viewer will then get the general idea
07-31-2007, 06:28 AM
Wow that new lighting worked marvels! in the previous one it seemed to me that Mr. Exman had his office curtains out to laundry and they haven't return them yet... but this one ihas an eerie feel to it!!
You know, i had this silly idea he could have pieces of meat in his 'IN' tray, and just bones in the 'OUT' one. too bad there seems to be no space for that.... and it could be distracting too... just thought it was funny.
Now as for your dilemma , boy is a hard one mmm............
What if the mouse is holding his Paycheck, (is easier to represent and recognize than a formulary) and with the other hand, and using the tip of his tail, he points at the amount box. I think even if the numbers are not readable it could represent the situation. But , as i said, you have a though one here! Good Luck with it!:wavey:
07-31-2007, 07:25 AM
lol, thats wonderfull. very nice details, the t-rex logo on the table, or the photo in the background. the name is also rly great, and the mouse is a very nice character, with the tailholding comes the fearness rly good. keep it up!
07-31-2007, 09:28 PM
if the mouse is angry!?
like demanding a raise .... putting the boss against the wall
this would be strange .... wouldn't??
i liked a lot the picture.
the angle of the camera .... the characters .... the body expressions
07-31-2007, 09:39 PM
Maybe you could have the mouse streching out one of his hands in a begging gesture?
07-31-2007, 10:51 PM
Thanks all for the tips. I'm going to try and put some of them together and see what I can come up with.
08-02-2007, 06:29 AM
Wow Mike, just stumbled across this and it looks great. I'm not going to read thru 6 pages of progress reports and forgive me if this has been covered but I think that the textures on the dino need some work. Knowing you, you've got this all sorted out so forgive me for not reading thru everying. I love the concept though and think the composition is first rate.
08-02-2007, 06:31 AM
PS ... WOW! on the lighting. Very nice.
08-02-2007, 06:46 AM
Hey Ray! Glad you could stop by. And your right, everything is still in WIP form.
08-04-2007, 08:10 AM
So here's my updated idea. What do you think, does it work? Or is it too much?
08-04-2007, 12:33 PM
Great progess Mike. I like the idea of the stamped forms but atm they seem very dominant in the composition, maybe change the paper colour to something other than white to knock them back a bit. Another suggestion would be to have Mr Rex holding a form in his right hand, the word 'denied' would still be very readable and i think thats all the viewer needs to know. It would also be between the mouse and the Rex in the comp which would enhance the interaction between the two.
08-04-2007, 01:34 PM
I like the idea of the paperwork telling the story, but after reading Steve's comments I'm agreeing that making the paper slightly coloured might improve the overall balance. By the way, I just noticed that smoking cigar and it looks brilliant. The lighting is really beautifully done too - the image is starting to look superb :thumbsup:
08-04-2007, 10:21 PM
Thanks for the suggestions guys. I took your idea and tried it out. What do you think. Or should I just forget about trying to convey the issue of asking for a raise and just go with a dynamic image. Besides the title of the image will indicate he's asking for a raise. I don't know.
08-05-2007, 05:52 AM
Yes is getting there, even if maybe this pic looks a little static comparting it to the one before it. Maybe you could find a point in between.
Mmmm ... What if Exman is holding the form from the top, and kind of handing it to the mouse, so it'd be closer to the mouse and the viewer? of course you would have to move aside the pen an see if the arm position looks good.
That's the thing with T-rexes... those tiny arms:shrug:
Hope it helps! see ya!
08-05-2007, 09:49 AM
This is always the toughest stage in an image and the one that takes the longest time. Best to go with your gut feelings, they're usualy the correct choices. Something you could explore would be some kind of executive toy for presenting the form to the mouse. A retractabele arm where you squeeze a trigger and the form is thrust into the poor employees face, you know the sort i mean with the diamond shaped extensions. I'm sure Mr Rex would have great satisfaction in doing that as he's probably always been self-concious about his little arms. There's also the gun where a flag pops out with a message on it. Just suggestions, feel free to ignore, like steeviewoo says, you're defniately getting there, and trust in your instincts. Steve 8)
Hi miketche! All very nice, I saw all of your wip, this good. But some details lose from view in the scene. Play with another moment, and experiment. Good Luck!
08-05-2007, 05:25 PM
joined your wip a bit late but have to say its looking A!, your models and composition are great. prefer your new denied render to the one with the papers flying off his desk.
Wow, this is looking really great! I think your latest composition is best.
Unfortunately, in our bureaucratic world this is not an uncommon situation...
Very nice work :thumbsup:
08-06-2007, 04:45 PM
Thanks for all the comments and suggestions everyone. This is a tough one. I think I'll brew on it for a few days.
looking great so far :) love the mouse pose and cigar its a nice touch...maybe some drool in the rexs mouth on on his teeth?? might be a nice detail, just a suggestion.
08-06-2007, 11:02 PM
Whoo!Looks nice man.!Agree a bit the textures could maybe use some more work & me founded the firts pose a bit more dynamic too.Maybe it could be cool to have a seat on the seat for the mouse.Just a thougt ofcourse.Great work!Keep 'm coming:beer:
08-08-2007, 10:33 PM
Poor mrs. Mouse! =(
This is sad... But good job on it! Thumbs up =)
09-01-2007, 07:14 AM
Sorry, I've been away for a little while with job and family stuff.
I think this is the composition I want to go with. In fact this is pretty close to final.
09-01-2007, 08:49 PM
Wow! Impressive render :eek:
Cool idea and great technique :thumbsup:
I`m looking forward for next updates :bounce:
09-06-2007, 08:03 AM
I love what you are doing with this picture mate. I realy like the details on the desk. You did great job with the mouse fur.
I would suggest to make some more color variation on the rex texture. Some red color in the eye, nose, annd mouth area. Abit green under his neck just to add some dynamics to the texture. Maybe add some slime into his mouth just to define the weatness in it.
The mouse could have hands in praying position. It would make more sense in the picture, like he is asking for raise. Perhaps the mouse could have teared cloth.
anyway just my 2 cents. Good luck with the contest.
09-07-2007, 10:29 PM
Great work Mike. The colour and modeling are superb. Good luck deciding on how to wind it up.
09-08-2007, 12:36 PM
Good luck with the final push Mike, the image is looking great.
09-11-2007, 08:57 AM
great picture. I find nothing to change.
09-11-2007, 09:41 AM
Fantastic! I agree with Warhawk, maybe just some color variation on the t-rex skin. Anyway the whole image is great!
09-11-2007, 01:28 PM
Adding specular highlights on the nose and on the mouth area that connotes watery effect would be a nice add-on. Also adding translucency look on the coffee and some scratches on the table, stool and on T.E.Exman name stand will be notably cool.
For sure these were all in your to-do list.
Again, Impressive work.
09-14-2007, 06:01 PM
Ok, Almost there. One major change and few smaller adjustments. What do you think of the bending desk. I think it adds some dynamic to the image.
09-15-2007, 01:56 AM
This image is absolutely wonderful!!
Bending the desk has been a great move: now it's hundred times more dynamic and full of energy. Before it was a very good image, now it's GREAT!!
Hey Michael, thas a great update mate!! the bend desk put a really cool touch and a great menacing note, great!! I like the objects "jumping" out of the desk, nice man!!, For sure the scene is a lot more dynamic!! :thumbsup: Again great work ! Cheers :beer:
09-16-2007, 05:55 AM
Faithful employee, Mortormer Mouse, having worked at Rexcorp for many years at a very humble salary, has finally plucked up the courage to ask Mr. Exman himself for a raise.
09-16-2007, 07:14 AM
Fantastic, powerful image. Congratulations. This image not only looks good, but it's also great fun. Good luck
09-17-2007, 02:18 PM
Fantastic dynamic image Mike, i realy enjoyed watching your progress. Best of luck !
You are one of the first to finish, Michael!
Congratulations with the wonderful result! :thumbsup:
09-17-2007, 05:56 PM
This turned out just great! Congrats and good luck :thumbsup:
09-17-2007, 11:39 PM
Nice work Mike. Very clean lines and beautifull colour. The slobber flying out is a nice touch and I like how it echoes the coffee and the smoke swirling around. All the movement has a frozen in time feeling to it which sits well with the dinosaur thing.
Cheers, good luck!
10-09-2007, 02:14 PM
Hahaha... very cute.
10-11-2007, 01:54 AM
Ok, I guess I'm officially done now as I have just uploaded my final TIFF image to the FTP.
Good luck all, it was fun!
10-12-2007, 09:32 PM
I like this piece!Nice camera angle!
10-13-2007, 04:56 AM
well executed man! :thumbsup: :deal: i like the story as well!! had a nice laugh after a long time! :applause:
10-16-2007, 08:33 AM
Very well done indeed!
11-20-2007, 01:55 PM
great image you made!
the little mouse is cute .... poor of him facing this monster boss .. ahuehuae
11-21-2007, 11:05 AM
Excellent realistic bureau shot! It is a bit unusual, though... Wow, I have seen a cat in a suit, but never a T. rex :D
BTW, squeezing all the elements in so tight shot must have been a bit of struggle... Everything that makes him a stereotypical, old-fashioned boss (even the cigar:D!!) and a T. rex (I bet I couldn`t put his tail in such a setting!) Only the mouse looks a bit underexpressive (but I generally hate shots from-behind-the-shoulders, like in the final scenes of 2001 Odyssey).
Good luck! Really like your entry. I was having great time watching this challenge! Can`t wait for the next one.
11-21-2007, 11:05 AM
This thread has been automatically closed as it remained inactive for 12 months. If you wish to continue the discussion, please create a new thread in the appropriate forum.
vBulletin v3.0.5, Copyright ©2000-2015, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.