Rotate Canvas a la Painter?

[workbench]

Adobe said it wasn't possible at this time due to graphics cards limitation but we all know what they really meant was, wait till CS4 or CS5 cause Adobe don't give a toss what the tablet users think.

Even pressure stylus control is so primitive in Photoshop that canvas rotate on the fly is probably at the bottom of their to-do list.

[pickthall]

Thanks dude, I thought I was giong mad trying to find it. They should really consider diversifying PS into a more artistic version for games developers and digital painters etc and one for more Photographic and print output uses. They really are resting on their laurals, some decent competition would be nice. *off to look at painter*

On a side note, one feature I would like is to invert the stylus pressure i.e. little pressure = broad transparent strokes then hard pressure = smaller brush, more opaque,

Thanks again

[theflash]

Seriously, but I agree adobe people would not give this priority. I am seriously thinking to switch to either painter or opencanvas.

[pickthall]

Hmm I just checked out Open Canvas, not bad at all, also 'Artrage' gives a nice painterly feel, both have the rotate canvas facility and both available free or for nominal price. Adobe, you gotta love em.

-J

[Xdreamer79]

I have myself done a small workaround. I assigned F buttons in my keyboard settings as

- F5 > flipping canvas horizontally
- F7 > flipping canvas vertically

- F9 > flip canvas 90° cw
- F8 > flip canvas 90° ccw

In my wacom settings I just assigne F9/F8 to my touch strip field since I don't use the zoom function that much http://www.cgpaintings.com/com/images/smiles/icon_smile.gif I know you can flip your canvas seamlessly in painter but not in photoshop, but maybe with some scripting you could code a script which allows you to flip the canvas less than 90° angles.

[Whipyo]

Just throwing it out there but I've only used painter up to version 9 and there are no colour modes except for RGB.

I can understand how painter engineers can implement real time rotation as the pixels in the document have the same RGB colour mode as the RGB pixel information stored in the video card.

Photoshop as its name implies is more for photographic and print work than digital painting (as mentioned). The average file size I work with in photoshop would easily be over 100-200 mb and most of my critical colour work is done in CYMK mode as it is for print.

I can't image how adobe would implement this. It's not just the rotation but also the real time redrawing of your layer stack plus masks etc.....What if you zoom in - I reckon the computer would sit there chugging as it has to re-read data from ram or disk, calculate the blending mode, masks, layers, colour correction layers and then the rotation - the list goes on. Totally impractical in my opinion.

I have about the quickest mac you can get with 8gb of ram, a huge video card and it still struggles sometimes just redrawing so I do believe the hardware isn't there yet.

How does painter perform with a large multi layer file. I bet it's not perfect. Say you have a 300 mb file, rotate it slightly and then need to zoom. What happens then?

Anyway, with the comment about photoshop splitting their photoshop range well they kinda have already done this. Photoshop elements is the lower end version. I agree though that perhaps they should have tried to implement something like real time rotation in elements.

Anyway, for my type of work Open canvas, artrage and painter just don't have the features I need. People in my industry only use them as novelty. I've used painter for print but only as a single layer (which I bring back into photoshop afterwards).

By the way, I'm no adobe fanboy. I have many of my own frustrations about photoshop but that is another story......I just though you guys would like perspective from someone earning their living using photoshop for print.

Picketall, inverted pressure can't be done I'm afraid.

[Thool]

I ve been missing this feature aswell for a while. Sad to see they didnt put it in.
Atm I simply use my shortcut actions to rotate the canvas by 10° to either side.
Not as great on large images but its something at least

[tfritzsche]

Thool
this reapeated non 90deg rotation, doesn't it blur/degrade images after about 5 or 6 rotates?

[BlueFlare]

this reapeated non 90deg rotation, doesn't it blur/degrade images after about 5 or 6 rotates?

It will already degrade an image after one rotation.

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