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mdavid
06-26-2007, 01:25 AM
Mark David is entered in the "Strange Behavior Challenge" update: View Challenge Page (http://features.cgsociety.org/challenge/strange_behavior/view_entries.php?challenger=12757)

Latest Update: Final Image: Catching a tan during the voyage
http://assets.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/19/12757/12757_1192242366_medium.jpg (http://forums.cgsociety.org/showthread.php?p=4708414#post4708414)

mdavid
06-26-2007, 01:26 AM
Yep! I'm in!

Terro
06-26-2007, 01:26 AM
Great to see you participate Mark. This challenge is definitely up your alley. Best of luck.

OKMER
06-26-2007, 01:53 AM
Yes Mark!!!Happy to see you're in!!!Agree withTerro, this theme really fit's you well I think.Wish you loads of fun and good luck buddy!!!
Let's rock & roll :beer:

mdavid
06-26-2007, 02:17 AM
Terro
Thank you very much! I'm looking forward to this one. Well, I suppose I look forward to all these cg challenges but the 'strangeness' part of it does sound like a good start

OKMER
Thanks to you too Remko! I was delighted to see your thread starting up. I can't wait to see what you come up with this time

mdavid
06-26-2007, 02:56 AM
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'Strange Behavior'...

What a cool theme! A very broad range of possibilities here. I enjoyed doing a space theme in EON so I might go all spacey this time too.

First potential idea is a huge detailed space ship - all rust and rivets and rubber bands and a zillion miles from anywhere - and the astronaut, getting into the spirit of long voyages is outside getting a tan. I guess that's what too much time alone can do to you.

I'm not so good at drawing space ships so I've employed a fairly cheap method of getting my idea across...

Ivy00
06-26-2007, 04:31 AM
ha ha making me laugh already mdavid :) good to see you again

shakes
06-26-2007, 04:58 AM
Hi Mark! great to see you in this and I love the concept..this will be fun to watch, as usual!!

mdavid
06-26-2007, 05:15 AM
Ivy00 and shakes
Hey thank you! So are you going to enter this one as well?

mdavid
06-26-2007, 05:18 AM
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Here's another one. The birds in this scene would be pretty confused, and more than a bit disgruntled

shakes
06-26-2007, 05:26 AM
gee you're spoiling us Mark..I really like that one too-could make a nice change from doing something similar to EON. and yep, soon as I think of an idea I'll be in too!

mdavid
06-26-2007, 05:48 AM
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Hey that's great news that you'll be starting your own challenge thread, shakes! Brilliant!

At the start of something like this I like to churn out a few ideas. That's why I'm not putting in too much time on the drawings - I'll think more about detail when I decide on what to do. This idea might look pretty yukky but it's not far from what some people do. You'd be amazed at where some people go fishing - definitely strange behavior

mdavid
06-26-2007, 06:06 AM
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There's kind of an infinite number of possibilities based on fishing. This one's set in one of those fancy restaurants where the fish are on display

Swizzle
06-26-2007, 06:25 AM
Some pretty excellent ideas here. I like the space ship and bird's nest ones the best of them all. I especially think the bird's nest one could be really funny.

mdavid
06-26-2007, 06:44 AM
Swizzle
Thanks Xavier. I'm thinking exactly the same thoughts. The space ship and the tree are my preferred options too.

mdavid
06-26-2007, 06:44 AM
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Some might say graffiti art is strange behavior. I'd argue it's even stranger at 30,000 feet.

I could keep churning these things out forever I suppose but I still like the idea of modeling one almighty weird space ship - my first idea. Maybe the other concepts would work as simple jokes but I love these challenges for the chance to spend months on a single image and a gutsy piece of modeling/illustration is something I'm keen to get into.

But it was nice to get those other ideas out of my brain and onto paper - it sort of clears my head and lets me move on

MVDB
06-26-2007, 07:22 AM
Great to see so many great artists participating in this challenge!

Have a great time! Good luck to you!

Gunilla
06-26-2007, 08:03 AM
So, there you are! And off with a flying start it is.

I still like the idea of modeling one almighty weird space ship - my first idea. Maybe the other concepts would work as simple jokes but I love these challenges for the chance to spend months on a single image


Exactly my thoughts when looking through your sketches, they are all adorable but you need something you can fill with details to not get bored with it. And a crazy vehicle is so...so you :)

Let's have fun now!

daWinky
06-26-2007, 08:26 AM
Hey there, Mark!

Great to discover your thread, this challenge is definitely made for you:D ...
Looking forward to see tons of good ideas and funny drawings!
Good luck!:)

-sabrina

icedeyes
06-26-2007, 11:13 AM
I love the fishing in the restaurant one... The other are very nice but that one looked like the best choice in my opinion..

good luck mate

GonzaloGolpe
06-26-2007, 11:34 AM
Hey Mark, where´re your Eon army???

I´ll be taking a look to your new, probably hilarious, work:D :thumbsup:

flaeticia
06-26-2007, 12:04 PM
Wow !
excellent :
i love the first one with the plane :)

very crazy :D

Good luck to you my friend ;)

Thaldir
06-26-2007, 12:04 PM
Hallo, Mark!

I was sure you could NOT miss this one, and I can't wait to see how this thread develops. You've already given me some very good laughs.

Best of luck (as if you needed it ;) ).

mdavid
06-26-2007, 01:09 PM
MVDB
Thank you Michael :)

Gunilla
Cheers Gunilla. Yeah, I'm thinking more and more that the image must be eye-catching. I want it to be something you don't see every day. The other scenes might work as ideas but don't really grab me as a visual spectacle. So the space scene is the one I'll be doing.

daWinky
Hi Sabrina! Great to see you dropping by. I sure hope this means you might be thinking of starting your own thread ;)

icedeyes
Thank you! I appreciate your kind words and your opinion very much. I was happy with that restaurant scene as a drawing but I think that as a humorous art piece it's peaked. What I mean is, I think it might be working as well as it can in its current quick-sketch form and might even be slightly less effective in 3D. That was why I was thinking of either the tree scene or the spaceship. I'm keen to go with the spaceship because I think it has the potential to go much further as a piece of eye-catching imagery than the others. I sure hope I'm right!

gG
Hi Gonzalo! Thank you very much for dropping by mate! There's no EON army this time - just me and my Mac. But I can assure you, I have absolutely no faith at all in my ability to take my work seriously for 4 whole months.

flaeticia
Thank you Laeticia. I'm pleased to say that the plane is the one I'll be doing

Thaldir
Thanks mate! I appreciate your kindness and confidence in my stuff. But I can assure you, I'll happily grab every bit of luck I can find!

makaron
06-26-2007, 09:58 PM
there you are... :bounce:

varma
06-26-2007, 10:39 PM
Hmmm, wait a minute! I've seen this avatar before, I must think, Not sure though!
Glad to see you here Mark! Spacey or not, your ideas are always spicey and filled
with lots of funny moments and great toony execution!
I sure am looking forward to see what you might come up with for this one!
Good luck!

Zapan
06-26-2007, 10:48 PM
Heya Mark ,

OMG , I laughed so hard on the restaurant one :scream: ... aha , made my day ...

Arf so many great ideas ... I saw you're up for the plane one , should be really great .
It's gonna be really cool to follow !

Best of luck and have fun here ... sure you already are ! :)

cheers ,

-Zapan

OKMER
06-27-2007, 01:15 AM
Ha,haha!Amazing start buddy!Got a special feeling about the one with that guy in the nest!I already can see the hilarious and surprised look on the birds faces and that really made me laugh!MAybe some other human flying over and throughing a worm to his mouth could be funny too.the birds will be even more surprised...just thinking up loud..haha.

Anyway, Great ideas and sketches.It will be a pleasure again following your work David!!
:beer:

mdavid
06-27-2007, 02:00 AM
makaron
Hi Mona, great to see your bouncing GP avatar on this thread! It's excellent to see your own thread started too. Fire up the drawing tablets, it's time to party

varma
Hey thanks Mathias. Much appreciated buddy. By the way, I still think your escaped avatar is one of the cleverest here

Zapan
Cheers matey! Yeah, I'm pretty much settled on the idea of doing the spaceship one, and yeah I am enjoying this (again). I'm sure looking forward to watching your thread too - your stuff is amazing!

OKMER
Hi Remko! Thank you mate! I'm really glad you liked the bird's nest idea. I was tempted to go with that one but I was a bit too keen on making one almighty big (and crazy) spaceship so I'll be sticking with the first idea after all

mdavid
06-27-2007, 02:18 AM
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Here's a rough plan for the space ship, cobbled together out of primitives so I can see how it might look. My idea is that when you look at the detail you'll see it's going to be all low-technology and built in a slightly comical way.

My original plan was to do something that wasn't too big so you could see the front hatch open and guess where the guy crawled out of it. But maybe it will be more interesting if I let the spaceship be bigger and more detailed - that open hatch doesn't have to be at the very front - it can be anywhere. And after all, I've got 4 months to play with this. So now I'm contemplating the idea being more ambitious with my space ship. Any opinions on this?

miketche
06-27-2007, 05:27 AM
A lot of great ideas here. Going with the space idea? I'll be watching.

gpepper
06-27-2007, 06:51 AM
Many concepts !
The space ship is the best, but you haven't wait my opinion to do your choice !
I can remember your "journey" entry with the 2 mices. I hope this one will be great too ! I'm pretty sure it will be.
Have fun Mark !

Gunilla
06-27-2007, 06:59 AM
I like the start for your ship - you seem to have found a balance between sweet and cuddly on one hand and lethal force on the other. Should be interesting.
The idea of making it big opens for a lot of possibilities, there could be room for many recreation areas on the surface. A pool in the turbine?

handlebar
06-27-2007, 11:06 AM
Wow Mark you've been buisy, glad you decided to enter, you have my peepers firmly focused on your thread.

Steve 8)

Cartesius
06-27-2007, 01:17 PM
Very cool ideas all of them but I think you're right in focusing on the spaceship!

/Anders

walrus
06-27-2007, 02:33 PM
Hey, Mark! Good to see you here again - I really enjoyed your direction in the last Challenge and am looking forward to seeing another one. Why the big rush to solidify and idea so soon? You have 4 months! :) The spaceship idea is fun, but considering you did umpteen ships in the last Challenge, just doing one seems.... easy? Repetitve? (Hope you don't mind me saying so - no offense intended!) Anyhow, it'll be fun to watch no matter what. Welcome back!

-mike

mdavid
06-27-2007, 04:05 PM
miketche
Thanks Michael. Yep, the plan is to head off to space again

gpepper
Thank you very much! Much appreciated :)

Gunilla
Cheers Gunilla. I'm glad I might be heading towards that balance you mention. That really is what I'm aiming for. I don't want it to look like a typical warship - in fact I'm thinking of taking those gun turrets off and replacing them with satellite dishes or aerials or something. Thanks for your suggestions about the recreation area too! :)

handlebar
Cheers Steve. I'm looking forward to seeing your work develop too, although I guess you're already pretty busy right now

Cartesius
Thanks Anders! Much appreciated. I think the spaceship should be a lot of fun

walrus
Hey Mike, thank you for your thoughtful and (as usual) very intelligent comments. As always, much appreciated mate! I can assure you I could not take any offense at all. I guess the main reason for jumping in so quickly with the spaceship idea is that I got excited by the thought of doing it. But that wasn't the only thing. When I did the EON spaceships they were all variations of a few very similar meshes. That's how I did them all so quickly. Rumors of large teams of volatile engineers working around the clock are totally unfounded and I have no idea how they started ;) This new spaceship will be totally different and much more ambitious than what I did in EON. In fact I'm pretty nervous about it, but that's our secret and I'm sure no one else here would dare read a comment addressed to you so I'm sure this secret is safe. Hahah! And there is so much I haven't even begun to decide in so many areas in this, and that's definitely something I hope to get suggestions and feedback on. (hint, hint)


Well I'm sitting here having a great time - I feel like a kid playing with Lego, lumping simple shapes together in Cinema 4D to assemble a basic outline for my spaceship. I'll post some more 3D roughs some time soon

- Mark

varma
06-27-2007, 04:25 PM
Well I'm sitting here having a great time - I feel like a kid playing with Lego, lumping simple shapes together...

I hear you there!

Great start and very good Idea using primitives to block out the concept! When you say you
might removing the gun turrets, I think maybe you could keep at least one, but instead of
the "typical Industrial type", you could alternatively replace it with a "Huge Harpoon", maybe
not so huge either, just the right size? You never know what/whom you could stumble about
out there!
That's of course my weard imagination again!
More updates please!!

Russell-Nash
06-27-2007, 07:26 PM
Hi Mark. I loved your Journey entry and will definitely follow this one.

Great concept and a nice start on that spaceship. :thumbsup:

Good luck with the challenge.

mdavid
06-28-2007, 04:51 AM
varma
Mathias, you're brilliant! I love that idea of the harpoon. It's perfect for the kind of technology I'm wanting to portray. I could have it rubber-band-powered or something like that. Thank you buddy.

Russel-Nash
Hey Torsten, you're back again too! That's great news. Thanks for your kind words mate.

NR43
06-28-2007, 08:36 AM
hi
some very funny ideas you got!

Slav
06-28-2007, 01:37 PM
good to see you back here! nice ideas so far. :)

digital-bobert
06-28-2007, 02:16 PM
Looks promising Mark!

mdavid
06-28-2007, 03:28 PM
NR43
Hey thank you! Much appreciated :)

Slav
Thanks mate! But I think I've got a busy few months going from ideas to final art. Yikes! But it should be fun

digital-bobert
Cheers Bobby. I appreciate your encouragement :)

mdavid
06-28-2007, 03:33 PM
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I'm still lumping primitives together to get a basic spaceship shape. I'm still not happy with how this is looking but at least I'm happy with where it's heading.

What I'm aiming for is for a first glance to suggest a sophisticated spaceship, and then you see all the low-tech stuff cobbled together. I'll probably put TV aerials and satellite dishes and stuff like that on some of the flat surfaces. I want it to be pretty rich in detail.

mdavid
06-28-2007, 03:37 PM
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Thanks to Mathias' suggestion I've decided to keep the space ship armed. He's right you know - you can just never tell when you're going to run into bad aliens. This thing is the primary weapon, and possibly the only weapon - part bamboo supports and part giant rubber band

- Mark

miketche
06-28-2007, 03:48 PM
Great idea for a weapon. Seeing as how your guy is lounging around in a beach like atmosphere, maybe you could add other bambo parts to the ship. I love your cartoony sketching style.

aaraaf
06-28-2007, 03:50 PM
I love the Space1999-like truss/lattice work rails on the ship! This is going to be fun to watch come together.

Great ideas!

OKMER
06-28-2007, 03:55 PM
Hehe, totally digging it!
Indeed the weapon is necessary I think too(but hey?With all this bamboo, what if they fall on Flying Panda aliens?):D :D
Indeed this is gonna be great great fun to see it all come together!Can't wait!:beer:Marc!

handlebar
06-28-2007, 05:34 PM
Great imagination Mark, always good to be prepared for those pesky aliens, especially the short little purple ones.

Steve 8)

Anubis3D
06-28-2007, 06:05 PM
LOL!! Man, this is certainly one of the best concepts I've seen around here so far! I'm really curious to see it taking shape.

varma
06-28-2007, 07:22 PM
Nah, you had the idea in the back of your head already, I just pointed at it!
Great plan for the weapon! You see, protection is very important, they even
teach kids at school about it!!!
;)

makaron
06-28-2007, 07:31 PM
bad, bad aliens... deserves them right :thumbsup:
you gotta have some strange ammo too.

jellybeans? cottonballs? waterballons? you never know what a alien is scared of.. hehe

mlru
06-28-2007, 09:08 PM
oh man, a Bamm-BOOzka-ZAPP-oKill :argh: - one of galaxies most powerfull weapons! I thought they were banned. A lot of people were killed only by the sight of it....

(by laughter)

Great concept! :thumbsup:

mdavid
06-29-2007, 12:45 AM
miketche
Thanks Michael. I fully agree with the idea of more bamboo. Bamboo is sorely under-rated as a building material in space craft. I mean, what's not to like about it? It's lightweight, cheap, and looks stylish with any space suit.

aaraaf
Cheers David. Yeah those lattice beams are going to be more bamboo. If I learn anything in this challenge it's going to be how to model, texture and light bamboo

OKMER
Ah Remko, where would I be without your insightful comments? Your sharp eyes have spotted a real weakness in my design. If I wake up screaming about pandas in the middle of the night then that's not a bad thing, it's a good thing, because it means I've got my full attention on it

handlebar
Ahah! So you agree about the aliens then do you? That's good to know. You never know when you'll need an ally

Anubis3D
Thanks for that mate!

varma
Well Mathias, it might have been at the back of my head, but it wasn't doing much good there until you did point at it. Thanks again mate

makaron
I couldn't agree more, Mona, and despite some recently-acquired fears about pandas I think I'm likely to sleep better at night now. By the way, I heard that 9 out of 10 aliens are terrified of GPs

miru
Thank you! You thought Bamm-BOOzka-ZAPP-oKills were banned eh? Well now you know ;)

mdavid
06-29-2007, 12:46 AM
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I can't think how a spare tyre would be much use on a spacecraft - well, I suppose you could use it as a fender in collisions - but I like the idea of one hanging off my spaceship. Experienced cgtalkers might look for some hint of artistic intent behind this decision but no, this is for the attention of Remko! Hahah! All that air in that tyre eh mate! Sure, there might be pandas in space but tire-deflaters? Just let 'em try to liberate the air out of this beauty. After all, we now know it's well defended

- Mark

OKMER
06-29-2007, 01:09 AM
:bounce:HAhaha Marc!!!Well now as an almost proffesional tire-deflater I'm amazingly flattered!!!:beer:

(Remko thinking:..gotta put some wings, spacepacks and armors on my tire-deflaters):D:D:D
:applause:

Slav
06-29-2007, 04:03 AM
i think i like the 1st concept the best. color it and upload the final. done deal. :)

Geta-Ve
06-29-2007, 04:26 AM
I love your drawing style so clear. This is gonna be great I can tell :)

miketche
06-29-2007, 05:20 AM
Bamboo and Spacecraft. Now there's two words you usually don't see together in the same sentance.

NR43
06-29-2007, 05:36 AM
lol you better start thinking about an emergency plan!
airbags and at least one small barrel of brandy with a small tap... space is coldddd...

Gunilla
06-29-2007, 08:03 AM
Ahh! I see that you now have come up with solutions for both attack and defense - that's good to know. I suppose the tire have another function as well, to keep the ship flying when the engines are off, or how else do you deal with gravity? :D

icedeyes
06-29-2007, 08:13 AM
The same idea is used in small ships even nowadays... will give it a nice retro feel... keep it up

mlru
06-29-2007, 11:35 AM
I suppose the tire have another function as well, to keep the ship flying when the engines are off, or how else do you deal with gravity? :D

Well, filled with lightweight vacuum they should provide a tremendous uplift. (As long as noone comes to free the vacuum, that is)

mdavid
06-30-2007, 01:51 AM
OKMER
Hey Remko, well I guess I'm no good at keeping secrets from you then, and splashing it onto this public forum and marking it to your attention just might have something to do with that. But yes, I can see a tense challenge coming, knowing your tire-deflaters might be out there. But that's the kind of pressure that makes these challenges special, right? ;)

Slav
Thanks mate!

Geta-Ve
Thank you! If I can get my 3D to match my drawing style then I'll be pretty happy

miketche
You're totally right. Bamboo and Spacecraft are not things you normally associate with each other. That's an appalling situation

NR43
Nice ideas mate. Airbags and brandy barrel... Thank you

Gunilla
Hi Gunilla. Yes, attack and defense: I agree it's important to think of both. You can never pay too much attention to detail

icedeyes
Thanks mate!

miru
Now this is the sort of rigorous scientific thought that makes these challenges special. Thanks mate!

GonzaloGolpe
06-30-2007, 02:02 AM
Hi-tech protection with that super tyre!:thumbsup:

cool!
you should put life belts all over there and David Hasselhoff ready to rescue too!:D


EDIT: your avatar, dude. I was watching to your eon alien and imagine him/her/it giving a kiss, mmoack!!haha

ok, time to sleep ;)

nwiz25
06-30-2007, 02:27 AM
hey buddy! :scream: good to c u here once again! :bounce: yipeeeeeeeeeeeeee :applause:

mdavid
06-30-2007, 08:12 AM
gG
Cheers Gonzalo. Yep, nothing but the finest in protection for our hero on board.
you should put life belts all over there and David Hasselhoff ready to rescue too!:DLOL! And wasn't Pamela Anderson in Baywatch too?

nwiz25
Hey Neville, it's great to see you too buddy :)

mdavid
06-30-2007, 08:16 AM
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I'm posting this latest update comfortable in the knowledge that there isn't a Rocket Science forum here at cg. Umm... there isn't one, right? Because rocket scientists would notice a bunch of things wrong with this. I started trying to be accurate but have you checked out a rocket engine lately? They're crazy complicated.

So pretty soon I was filling in the gaps with pipes and shapes that looked like machinery. But it's likely that this will only be partly visible anyway so I'm not worrying too much about this.

I'll add that there's no bamboo in this yet - as much as like the idea of bamboo for other bits of the spacecraft I'm not so keen on such a flammable material being used for a rocket engine

- Mark

Try
06-30-2007, 11:06 AM
Hello Mark.



Here I just discover that a new challenge is on the way and you are already half finished. :eek:
If there is a prize for flying start you should have it!:bounce:

Concept looks great mate! And your rocket engine looks wicked good. Only I don’t se the crack used to start it… Maybe you will ad that later…

Also I was wondering if maybe this sunbathing guy on the sundeck… If he was a real hardcore he would bring his ship right under the sun wouldn’t he…
Looks like he’s a bit of a coward, staying so far away from any real skin frying light source. But maybe that is just me longnig for the rain to stop and the sun to come out for my summer holliday.

Anyway I`m cheering for you all the way Mark! The best of luck to you!!:thumbsup:

Per

mdavid
06-30-2007, 12:10 PM
Try
Hey Per! It's great to hear from you buddy. Thanks for your kind words.

Thanks for the encouragement about the rocket. At the moment I'm sticking some burn marks and grime onto it. The trouble we go to, to make things look like a mess eh?

Shame about the rain you're getting. We've had a fair bit in Sydney lately too - almost 2 feet of rain in a month. I think I've got moss growing behind my ears.

So then, any chance of seeing you in this challenge? There's heaps of time!

- Mark

Zapan
06-30-2007, 12:16 PM
Ahahaha , that's a hell of a great start and fast ... wow !

The tyre is an awesome addition , can't rid off the silly grin my face ... :scream:

This is gonna be huge , can't wait for more

cheers ,

-Zapan

mdavid
06-30-2007, 02:19 PM
Zapan
Thanks mate! Much appreciated. So much more to do though eh? Looks like a busy 4 months

mdavid
06-30-2007, 02:19 PM
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My aim in this is to make a spacecraft that looks like it didn't come straight off the showroom floor. So I figured that rocket needed to look like it's been used. Here it is with some burn marks and grime

- Mark

varma
06-30-2007, 02:58 PM
Is that the infamous Tesla coil right next to the antimatter deflector? I see you are trying
to bridge oldschool rocket science with alien technology! could actually work! But please
be careful, I read they scorched 20 acres land back in Los alomos trying to do something
similar!
Very nice shader work! I like the way it's reflecting the surroundings without being very
chromatic!
Great render by the way!
:applause:

Russell-Nash
06-30-2007, 04:48 PM
Wow, I am speechless. That engine is great. :thumbsup:

By the way if you add a modified Einstein capacitor next to the antimatter deflector it would protect surrounding bamboo from catching fire.

overcontrast
06-30-2007, 07:47 PM
beautiful progress.... nice modleing and looks like ur texturing ur way through... very good... keep it up man....

Swizzle
06-30-2007, 11:48 PM
Looking pretty sweet, mdavid. The only thing i'd suggest right now is adding a bit of iridescent-type color to those blackened metal tubes. When certain metals heat up and cool down, they turn all sorts of fancy colors. You may want to put a bit of that in places the metal would get hottest.

Example:
http://frugal-bicycling.com/files/tig-weld2.jpg

miketche
07-01-2007, 04:58 AM
Nice Engine!

mdavid
07-01-2007, 05:32 AM
varma
Cheers Mathias! You just can never be too careful with Tesla coils and antimatter eh?

Russel-Nash
Thanks mate! I'll take on board your comment about the Einstein capacitor - it sounds so obvious now you point it out to me! ;)

overcontrast
Thank you very much. I expect things will slow down when I get to the foreground detail, so I was keen to get this engine stuff out of the way

Swizzle
Thank you for your comment about the iridescence on metals. You're right! As the engines are likely to be mostly hidden I won't put too much more time into them, but after reading your comments I couldn't resist playing a bit more with my shader anyway. So if the final composition allows it then I expect I'll be showing a bit of that iridescent effect on that tubing

miketche
Thanks Michael! Much appreciated

mdavid
07-01-2007, 05:33 AM
http://assets.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/19/12757/12757_1183264401_medium.jpg (http://assets.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/19/12757/12757_1183264401_large.jpg)

Before I can start modeling the spaceship I need to flesh out my shapes with a bit of detail.

My goal will be to make it cartoony. I want to get almost no straight lines into the shapes - my drawing style makes my shapes look a bit bendy and rubbery so that's the look I'm going for.

- Mark

miketche
07-01-2007, 07:05 AM
That is really the way to space travel.

techdivine
07-01-2007, 09:25 AM
hi thr

the nest one idea is really cute.....and cld turn out to be fabulous at the end......billion thngs one can do thr....wat say

gpepper
07-01-2007, 09:44 AM
Ahahah ! Excellent details !

The last render of the booster is great ! Great texturing job !

GonzaloGolpe
07-01-2007, 10:39 AM
Hahah, the guy lying down is the greatest guy in the universe:applause: You could put a huge sun over there,hehe

techdivine
07-01-2007, 10:43 AM
cant wait to see the ship finished .......

would be nice work for render.....wat say....keep em coming.....

be well

strange behavior wip concept sketches : (http://forums.cgsociety.org/showthread.php?f=225&t=513209)
http://forums.cgsociety.org/showthread.php?f=225&t=513209

MVDB
07-01-2007, 10:55 AM
Over 1500 views allready? Hold up, you make the rest of us look very slow!
Best of luck to you!

Try
07-01-2007, 11:16 AM
The engine looks perfect with textures Mark!:thumbsup:
Great ship concept to. Only comment is that I would like to se even more of your weird and wonderful details on the ship.

You’re having lots of rain in Sidney! Man the world is going crazy.


By the way I can help you with your “moss behind the ear” problem..



Get a Reindeer they are moss eaters and if you have one it will keep you body moss free all year. Only problem is that they may be a bit eager in the moss hunt and are known to eat nuts as well (witch often gets uncomfortable for us guys).
Soak your ears in gasoline or even better rocket fuel (now that you are in the rocket business). Set them (your ears) alight and run screaming around the block. If everything goes to plan the fire department will show up and blast your ears with those heavy big size water hoses. This will take care of things and if the moss problem reoccurs just repeat treatment after about 14 days.
So you se there is a solution to everything.
And if gets to much to deal with you could always consider moving from rainy Sidney to some sunny part of the world in stead.

I will see if I get a chance to join the challenge. Have been trying to think of some funny stuff I could make…. But after months of working on our holocaust movie it is real hard to think of anything funny…. And make the time to do anything else.

But for now I will follow your progress and hopefully get inspired.:)

Zapan
07-01-2007, 04:49 PM
Rofl :scream: ...

Thats briliant .... is that a sock in the frontleft side of the ship ? :scream:
Can't wait for more .... which according to your speed , should appear any minute now ... :D

cheers ,

-Zapan

mdavid
07-02-2007, 12:01 AM
miketche
Cheers Michael. I'm glad you think it's the way to travel. I must admit, I have no idea how the guy breathes though

techdivine
Thank you. I appreciate your kind words! I was also happy with the nest idea but the part of me which loves playing with 3D was too keen on doing the spaceship idea instead. So maybe some other time :)

gpepper
Thank you. I'm glad you like the rocket booster. :)

gG
Hey Gonzalo, thanks buddy. Yeah he looks like he has a good life. If you have to travel a few million miles then at least do it in style, I reckon

techdivine
Ahh! Back again! Thanks buddy.

MVDB
Thanks Michael. Yeah, it's been a wild start. :) It's been awesome for me to see this thread getting so much attention, but once this challenge starts to really get under way I imagine there will be heaps of threads with lots and lots of pageviews! By the way, it's great to see you in this challenge - I remember the cool dog illustration you had going in the Journey challenge - it was one of my favorite entries

Try
Hey Per, I'm glad you like the rocket engine buddy. I think it's exactly what I need behind myself right now to speed me up a bit this morning. And I'm very grateful for your excellent reindeer solution to my moss-behind-the-ears problem. You see, that's why I like this forum - I have a problem and someone comes up with a clever solution. The moment I finish this posting I'll go looking for some reindeer on EBay (I'd better order two in case the first one doesn't work). Your rocket fuel idea is sure to work too, but with the high price of petrol these days I guess I'll have to try the reindeer first. And of course if petrol prices go even higher then those reindeer could come in handy for transportation. Now onto matters of this challenge, it would be great to see you in this one, but it does sound extremely logical that working on a movie about the holocaust would make you not feel very much like doing funny stuff.

Zapan
Thanks matey. Yes, that is definitely a sock - anyone who's traveled long distances in confined spaces will be familiar with the constant problem of where to hang your socks. I just couldn't call my approach scientific without covering that important aspect ;)

Gunilla
07-02-2007, 06:46 AM
Oh - that is one dirty looking rocket! Very nice texturing job, I begin to imagine what your ship will look like now - much more waste dump style than the ones in EON, right?
And the detailed sketch is promising, I can see how you will going on adding strange stuff to it, splendid!

BTW, no need to go to Ebay for a reindeer, I can send you one of mine.

mdavid
07-02-2007, 08:28 AM
Gunilla
Thanks Gunilla! Yeah, I sometimes wonder about us 3D artists - we spend so much time making beautiful clean perfect shapes and then go out of our way to cover them with dirt and then push the whole lot out of focus. But you're right in your summing up of the spaceship - imagine something that was launched a long, long time ago. There's one occupant, and he's slowly going mad from too many years on his own. And his craft is falling apart so it's starting to show more and more signs of repairs and modifications. The spacecraft equivalent to a shack.

Many thanks for the offer of the reindeer too. I'll see if I can round up a bunch of kangaroos and wombats in return

mdavid
07-02-2007, 08:28 AM
http://assets.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/19/12757/12757_1183361309_medium.jpg (http://assets.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/19/12757/12757_1183361309_large.jpg)

I've finally made a start on the spacecraft. A lot of time's going into the cartoony lumps and distortions so I'm glad I've got heaps of time for this. The plan is to show a lot of rough machinery and modifications accumulated during years in space. Because things are going pretty well at the moment there's a good chance I can make the spaceship much more detailed and ambitious than the rough sketches suggest

- Mark

icedeyes
07-02-2007, 09:16 AM
great work so far.. keeping it cartoony and all.. looks like a miniature model... I LOVE the stitch in the front... very nice touch.. keep it up

Goro
07-02-2007, 09:26 AM
Cool updates!
Love the weapon on the spaceship ^^
Keep going!

daWinky
07-02-2007, 10:03 AM
Heya Mark!

Bah, not only the concept is great, you're also soooo busy here!:scream:
The start of the spaceship is great, just the style I like:thumbsup: !
Looking forward to see all the strange modifications you'll make...

-sabrina

shakes
07-02-2007, 11:45 PM
hey Mark, what a fantastic start you've made! the engine a few pages back is simply awesome!! love the detail, sensational stuff! congrats on a really fun thread, and the spaceship is looking tops..love the folded wings.

mdavid
07-03-2007, 02:28 PM
icedeyes
Thank you! I'm really happy you like it :)

Goro
Hey thank you! Great to see you here, and I'll add that I'm loving the work you're doing on your own thread

daWinky
Hey Sabrina, lovely to see you dropping by! Yeah, I kind of hit this competition in a full gallop - I'm able to generate the cartoon roughs pretty quickly - but my pace has slowed down now to a much more familiar crawl since I've started with the 3D

shakes
Great to see you here John, and I keep hoping I might see a 'shakes' thread starting up here some time soon. I'm glad you like the progress so far

mdavid
07-03-2007, 02:29 PM
http://assets.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/19/12757/12757_1183469352_medium.jpg (http://assets.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/19/12757/12757_1183469352_large.jpg)

Gradually making progress on the first half of the spacecraft. Some of those nice smooth surfaces are set to be dented and generally roughed up a bit.

- Mark

Ravenslayer
07-03-2007, 02:36 PM
love the design :o
keep up the good work

GonzaloGolpe
07-03-2007, 02:40 PM
be careful about the mass-destruction weapon of your ship!:D

Zapan
07-03-2007, 02:55 PM
:eek:

OMG ! that's amazing , just as amazing as the insane speed you're going on !! :applause:
No more constructive comment than Excellent !

Keep up the great work Mark

cheers ,

-Zapan

varma
07-03-2007, 03:17 PM
Killing me softly, ....
Do you know that song?
:applause:

mlru
07-03-2007, 03:28 PM
cooooool! :applause:

oh - oh - but don't forget that high sophisticated cosmic radiation shielding unit.... your pilot might need it :D

Nigio
07-03-2007, 04:12 PM
Very nice modelling. I love the idea as well. Can't wait to see it finished.

fido972
07-03-2007, 04:17 PM
gOoD concept and very good modeling for the sheap.

good luck!

gpepper
07-03-2007, 04:21 PM
Great !
Looks like some Plasticine !
It is promising !

miketche
07-03-2007, 04:57 PM
That ship is looking real good Mark. You'll be done with this image in no time. Then what are you going to do with your self for the next three months?

Gunilla
07-03-2007, 06:07 PM
The modeling comes along so fine - it shows you're in a favourite space with this!

Speaking of speedy, I can't help but notice how efficent everything goes for you this time - could it be that your engineers are still on strike? :D

shakes
07-03-2007, 09:51 PM
http://assets.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/19/12757/12757_1183469352_medium.jpg (http://assets.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/19/12757/12757_1183469352_large.jpg)

that rocks mark! so imaginative! i so love the slingshot. You have such a unique style.

mdavid
07-04-2007, 01:51 AM
ravenslayer
Thank you very much :) It's possible the design will change slightly while I work on this - I don't know, but I admit that's half the fun

gG
Hey Gonzalo, I love the new avatar mate! That would make a brilliant passport photo! Hahaha! Yes, that mass-destruction weapon is armed and very dangerous. I'll be very careful not to aim it at myself while working on this image

Zapan
Thank you heaps buddy! I'm really happy you like it. Much more to do though.

varma
Thank you. Yes mate, I know that song

miru
Ahh! I was thinking of putting one of those units in so now I'm totally convinced. Thank you.

Nigio
Thank you very much :)

fido972
Thank you! Hopefully things should start really working when I put textures onto it

gpepper
Thank you. Yes, plasticine, or rubber or something like that is exactly the kind of look I want. I don't want it to look hard and impersonal

miketch
You'll be done with this image in no time. Then what are you going to do with your self for the next three months?Hahaha! Thanks Michael. I'm glad you asked the question. It was sort of raised earlier by another Michael (Walrus). My plan for this image is to work really solidly on the one thing for the full 4 months and see what happens. I know it looks like I could finish this in a week or two. I guess I could make a passable final soon enough, but it wouldn't be of the standard I want to achieve and I wouldn't have learned anything. So I'm going to keep modeling the spaceship and then I guess I'll be tweaking the modeling and adding structural details and so on until I can't see how to improve it. Then I want to texture it at a decent standard that I see other people do, but which I've never done before. Making it all grubby and battered is part of that challenge for me and I've got a lot to learn there. Then there's the astronaut. I want to put a fair bit of time into getting him just right, and that alone could take a while. Then there are all the little details which I haven't even planned yet - little bits of machinery and add-ons accumulated by years of the astronaut slowly going mad from boredom in space. I want to fill this illustration with detail and I want each piece to be done as well as I can. Then there's the background. I guess I could do another background in Photoshop like I did in my EON scene but I just don't know - it's why I'm using a simple blue background for now. It looks like I'm half done but the truth is I've only just started to enjoy myself. There's heaps to do and I want to really fill that 4 months. I find that with 3D there is always one more thing to do. I might be wrong though. I don't know. Whether or not I'm being unrealistic is a big part of the learning experience for me with this challenge.

Gunilla
Hey thank you Gunilla! When I did my first challenge (Journey Begins) I spent a lot of time learning the technical side of the software. This time I have a better feel for how to do stuff so I can just start building the scene. But I still don't truly know where this is heading. And yeah, I'm definitely motivated by doing the kind of stuff I enjoy here. As for that rabble of engineers working here last time, yes they are still on strike! Said they'd never work for me again. How ungrateful!

shakes
Thanks John! :) Much appreciated buddy

drewfarr
07-04-2007, 01:53 AM
Very cool design. Nothing is wasted, every little detail speaks out.


Great model, cant wait to see this one finished.

polygonwarrior
07-04-2007, 04:08 AM
nice ideas to work on buddy.best of luck:thumbsup:

miketche
07-04-2007, 06:53 AM
Mark, that sounds very good. I really hope you can flesh this idea out to it's fullest. I can't wait for your texture work. I hope to be able to put as much work into mine.

Try
07-04-2007, 09:19 AM
This is splendid looking and you are keeping the cartoony style from your drawing, that is the best part.:)

Some practical questions though….

1. * If the pilot wants to move from the cockpit to the sundeck will he have to climb over the slingshot, risking being shot into orbit if he trips it?

2. *Can the slingshot be used as a rapid breaking system? Or to back up the vehicle when say, parking?

Or is it primarily a weapon to prevent little green (froglike) suckers from getting on board and hitching a free ride?



Many more questions I have. But these are the most pressing concerns right now.:wise:

JurajMolcak
07-04-2007, 10:12 AM
Now, this thread is pretty fat already! I think you and your limos should be in inspirations for this challenge. Good luck.

OKMER
07-04-2007, 11:19 AM
Wowww, lovely,lovely!This is starting to work out really well.Indeed you got your own and unique style!Which me love.
I saw you wanted to really take your time for this one and push everything in the pic to the max by taking advantage of the whole 4 months.OOh yerr , now you're talking Marc!:D
This is gonna rock!:bounce:

mdavid
07-05-2007, 12:56 AM
drewfarr
Thanks Drew. I sure hope I can say the same thing when the model is finished

CUBISIS
Thank you! Much appreciated

miketche
Cheers Michael. I'll be rendering the untextured model at fairly high resolution after I've finished this initial stage and that'll give me the chance to see the kind of finer details it needs - the stuff I just don't see at low resolution. And I can't wait to see your T-rex finished

Try
Thanks Per. Of course you're the master of detailed cartoony craft with your spectacular Rainbow Chasers illustration (http://forums.cgsociety.org/showthread.php?threadid=334783). Once again you raise some important points:
1. If the pilot wants to move from the cockpit to the sundeck will he have to climb over the slingshot, risking being shot into orbit if he trips it?I guess that's a problem for the Health and Safety Department. Since all my staff walked out on me since they alleged I mistreated them during the EON challenge I no longer have a Health and Safety Department, so that shouldn't be a problem, but I like your idea because it does lead to some real benefits. For example, the slingshot could be used to get the pilot to his destination before the ship gets there. Now that's the kind of feature I'd put right on the front page of those glossy sales brochures
2. Can the slingshot be used as a rapid breaking system? Or to back up the vehicle when say, parking? I like that idea a lot. That wasn't my idea but it sure sounds good. Anything that helps with parking has to be good, right? Are you sure you've never worked in spacecraft design?

Oweron
Thank you. I'd forgotten about those limos but when I think about it, a stretch limo spacecraft does sound pretty cool!

OKMER
Cheers Remko. Much appreciated mate. I could well be kidding myself about my approach here and Miketche could well be completely right. But I've never had a lot of patience and so focusing on one spaceship scene for 4 months should be a good exercise for me. I'm hoping it will open up new parts of my brain!


As I mentioned to Miketche, when I've made more progress on the spaceship I'll be rendering it out at high resolution and seeing which parts of it need more attention to detail. I'm trying to build nice light meshes but it's already straining my computer (Dual 2 Ghz G5 Mac with 2 gigs of RAM) and I'm sure the lights go dim in my street every time I rotate the model in the viewport. So that suggests I'll be finishing this model and rendering it in multiple bits.

handlebar
07-05-2007, 02:23 AM
Wow Mark that's one wacky ship, fantastic progress.

Steve 8)

bandro
07-05-2007, 06:44 AM
cool design i imagine it with brilliant and saturated colors like a cartoon

icedeyes
07-05-2007, 09:41 AM
Its looking really nice Mark... Love the slingshot... One thing that looks a little strange is that while everything else seems stitched together the boxy form and the half cylinder form (that start behind the cockpit) are united... maybe you should put a seam there... just a suggestion..

mdavid
07-06-2007, 01:58 AM
handlebar
Many thanks Steve. It's just a start though. More weirdness to come ;)

bandro
Cheers Alex. Thank you for the suggestion about the colours. I like that idea and I do want to have good strong colours in this scene

icedeyes
Many thanks for your observation about the boxy bit and the cylindrical bit. I agree. I've now joined those bits together so I hope it's looking a bit better. That whole flat surface along the back/top is something I'm leaving empty and unresolved for now because that's where the astronaut will be in his deck chair sipping his drinks.

mdavid
07-06-2007, 01:59 AM
http://assets.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/19/12757/12757_1183683549_medium.jpg (http://assets.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/19/12757/12757_1183683549_large.jpg)

I'm working at the same pace but the updates are appearing less frequently because it's a bit difficult to show what I'm doing.

Here's the spaceship lumped together in its basic components. To speed up render times I turned off Ambient Occlusion so it looks a lot cleaner at the moment.

I'm now going to take each section out, one at a time, and add detail and signs of modifications and repairs. When I get the chance I'll post an example of before and after shots to give an idea of what I'm talking about. Part of what I plan doing is adding that detail, and also making it more cartoony.

- Mark

shakes
07-06-2007, 08:51 AM
wow, insanely good modelling and detail Mark! it all looks like it would work too, which is great

Gunilla
07-06-2007, 09:42 AM
I agree with John - this is really good! It's nice to see the beginning of detailing while still keeping the overall cartoony look. If anyone could pull that off successfully it would be you.
Only one question, where are you planning to put his little garden? :)

Try
07-06-2007, 12:35 PM
Looking real good Mark. Can’t wait to see more texture details.

Thanks for linking to my Rainbowchasers. You are to kind! But it was actually fun to see that thing again. haven’t looked at it for over a year.
:)Cant believe I had the time to do all that detail work.

Looking at your inspiring stuff I must say I`m getting pretty close to entering this challenge myself….

mdavid
07-06-2007, 01:01 PM
shakes
Thanks matey! I'm delighted to see your thread up and running now. Bring on the madness!

Gunilla
Cheers Gunilla! Much appreciated. The astronaut's little garden will be on the flat area between the two water tanks - just behind the slingshot. Actually it won't be much of a garden - I'm thinking of a few pots with dead plants in them, like you'd see on countless balconies everywhere. Of course, the way the astronaut sees it, that little patch of dead plants is his piece of paradise.

Try
Hey Per, with you in this challenge it would be like old times mate! No pressure though.

--------------
I've been thinking about the spaceship - well of course I have because I've been staring at it forever - and I figured it would be fun to paint it like those old hippy cars of the 60s. So it would be covered with rainbows and flowers and peace symbols and stuff and it would have aged a lot since it was painted, so on top of all that faded paint would be decades of accumulated grime and dust and scratches

- Mark

miketche
07-06-2007, 03:05 PM
Those band-aids really crack me up.

Russell-Nash
07-06-2007, 06:41 PM
The spaceship looks great. And I love the hippie idea.
May be the pilot than should not take a sun bath but sit next to a small campfire with his guitar like this dude here (http://is1.okcupid.com/users/592/716/5927164858093333831/mt1160763927.jpg).

walrus
07-06-2007, 06:55 PM
Mark, it's looking good! I love all the details you're just strating to get to. The wings and the Seussian pulleys on them are my favorites! I like how everything is very cartoony and uneven and vaguely blobby. The one part that doesn't strike me so is the cube-shaped cockpit in the back (on either side of the 2 tanks.) That area feels like it doesn't wuite fit because it's too straight-sides and even, unlike the cockpits in front of it. My eye keeps getting drawn to how unlike the rest of the spaceship it feels, at least to me.

Anyhow, just my $0.02. Good luck with the detailing!

digital-bobert
07-07-2007, 12:56 AM
I love the progression in this Mark! Love the humor as well.

mdavid
07-07-2007, 01:24 AM
miketche
Cheers Michael. Yes, it's hard to beat the old jokes eh? Band-aids have helped a lot of my cartoons and now I'm finding them equally useful in 3D ;)

Russel-Nash
Thanks Torsten. I'm glad you like the hippie idea. Thanks for the link to that hippy photo too! That's amazing and I will definitely look at that again when it comes to modeling the astronaut.

walrus
Cheers Michael. I'm actually glad you mention that straight flat area because I kept putting off dealing with it, using the 'ignore it and it will go away' approach, but now I can stop kidding myself. You are totally right. I even said somewhere earlier that I want to have no (or very few) straight lines and then I went ahead and left that clinical-straight surface sitting there. So I will fix that right now. Thanks for keeping me honest mate!

digital-bobert
Many thanks Bobby. Much appreciated :)

drewfarr
07-07-2007, 01:40 AM
Sweet Bamboo Man :D


This is definately a nice model, cant wait to see some textures on it.

icedeyes
07-07-2007, 09:28 AM
hey mark...
i like new parts... even little thinks like the morror and antena on the front help a lot... the little staircase thingies look nice too..

my comment would be the same as Michael's... that area feels a little strange and unattended...

but you said that the pilot would go there so it might just fill up then... also, just an idea... maybe you could put some grass on that along with a recliner and maybe a little umbrella to give it the totally laid back feature...

Just some thoughts... keep it up

mdavid
07-07-2007, 09:57 AM
drewfarr
Thanks Drew. That bamboo is a little bit set back into the background so I guess it's not as prominent as I intended but I guess not everything can be right in front of the camera

icedeyes
Thanks George. Yeah I agree with you (and Michael). Thanks for your honesty mate. So I've ripped out that whole surface, put in a cartoony kind of curved surface in its place, and to give the astronaut a suitably flat area to be sitting on, well I'm building a timber deck! Of course the deck will show extremely poor craftsmanship - real amateur carpentry ;) I'll post something as soon as I've got something to show. Thanks for the idea about grass and an umbrella too. That sounds brilliant. I might put a square of fake grass on part of the deck

mdavid
07-08-2007, 12:33 AM
http://assets.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/19/12757/12757_1183851233_medium.jpg (http://assets.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/19/12757/12757_1183851233_large.jpg)

I'm grateful to walrus and icedeyes for pointing out something that really needed fixing. If you go back a bit to an earlier render of the spacecraft you'll see a flat area between the two side water tanks, and that flat area just didn't look right against the cartoony, blobby space ship. Its geometric precision was out of character with the rest of it. Now, I needed to put in some place where my astronaut could set up his deck chair to catch a few cosmic rays, so now I've got another idea, which I think is much more in keeping with theme of an ageing spaceship modified countless times by someone going literally mad from boredom.

It's the timber deck - much loved and much badly-made by home builders all over the galaxy.

- Mark

shakes
07-08-2007, 04:11 AM
Lovely work, Mark..what a crazy contraption! I love this style of yours

miketche
07-08-2007, 04:19 AM
Love the deck. I agree, looks much better now.

Demitsuri
07-08-2007, 03:05 PM
This is going to be very impressive work i'm sure. :thumbsup:

Best of luck!

mlru
07-08-2007, 06:32 PM
Ah, wonderful! This slowly looks like a spacecraft with a character:thumbsup:

I'm just concerned about the air inlets (?) I don't assume it's build for atmopheric flights, is it? Maybe the space behind is used in a better way as some kind of cabin, so the inlets could hold some windows, with some flower boxes to make everything a bit more homey? Just an idea....

Can't wait for the next one...:scream:

Russell-Nash
07-08-2007, 06:45 PM
Great update. :thumbsup:
Now if you add some thatch it will look really cosy.

Cartesius
07-08-2007, 08:53 PM
I just love that spaceship! So bubbly and cartoony... The only thing that in my eyes is a bit out of place is the perfect roundness of those big barrels on the sides. Maybe just place a few knicks and dents in them and perhaps make the rims a bit thicker to go with the rest of the style? Apart from that -- I want that ship :)

/Anders

mdavid
07-08-2007, 11:50 PM
shakes
Thanks mate! It's great fun having 4 months on this challenge - I can just keep plugging away on this early modeling stage knowing I still have plenty of time to do the rest

miketche
Cheers Michael. I'm glad you like the new-look deck

Demitsuri
Thank you! Much appreciated :)

miru
Thank you! You raise an interesting point about the air inlets. I'm keen to keep them as air inlets even though it's not really an atmospheric vehicle, just like those stumpy little wings are still there. I guess it's a sort of space shuttle kind of thing - capable of both atmospheric and space travel. But I really like your suggestions about the flower boxes. That suggests nice little ornamental frames around the existing windows too. So I really appreciate your comments!

Russel-Nash
Thanks mate! I'll think about that thatching but I'm not sure if I'll be able to make it work. But thanks for the suggestion

Cartesius
Hey Anders, thanks for dropping by mate. Good suggestion about those water tanks. Now I look at them I realise they are too perfectly round, just like you say. I guess I'll need to do something about that!

gpepper
07-09-2007, 07:24 AM
I really like the design of this ship and the way that you add details on it ! It is fun to look all the elements of it !
Keep the good work Mark, it should be a great entry !
cheers ! :beer:

mdavid
07-09-2007, 08:02 AM
gpepper
Hey thank you! I sure hope it turns out well. I like your new avatar too. I was super-impressed by watching it take form on your thread

mdavid
07-09-2007, 08:03 AM
http://assets.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/19/12757/12757_1183964587_medium.jpg (http://assets.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/19/12757/12757_1183964587_large.jpg)

I've got more stuff to do with the modeling but I wanted to get some texturing done. I'm sure you're all familiar with the 60s hippy car - painted all over with flowers and peace symbols and stuff. If the paintwork was done badly then that's even better. Well, years of going mad in space has seen our hero the astronaut go through his own hippy stage. Therefore the whole spaceship hull will be painted like how I've started here. Except I want it to look even more faded and scratched and dirty.

- Mark

Gunilla
07-09-2007, 08:04 AM
Top notch wooden deck, Mark! It's wonderful to see how each step makes the style closer to perfection.
So, if I may have a wish - would it be possible for you to make a drawing naming all the parts? For a non-vehicle person as myself it's a bit tricky to keep up with what parts are under discussion. That would be a great educational addition, scientificly speaking :)

Edit: And while I was typing the hippie ship arrived! How cool! That is soo Jefferson Airplane :love:

Ramitxon
07-09-2007, 08:06 AM
Great work... I subscribe to this one.

Try
07-09-2007, 08:09 AM
looking better and better Mark. starting to get to a nice level of detail.:thumbsup:
And I do agree with Anders. those barrels do need some work to fit in.
Maybe you can just inflate them a bit... Like they are under great pressure?

By the way I give in. was planning to stay on the sideline and just spend time on nitpicking on other peoples work.

But the urge to draw some silly stuff has become too great!

Entering now.:)

icedeyes
07-09-2007, 08:46 AM
The hippie ship is coming.... ohhhhhhh noooooooooooooo..... lol... great tapestry on this one... keep it up mark

shakes
07-09-2007, 10:47 AM
that looks brilliant Mark! Jefferson Airplane indeed Gunilla! great stuff buddy..the colours are very nice

mlru
07-09-2007, 12:11 PM
ROFL - oh my!

Why comes the "Magic Bus" to my mind? :buttrock:


BTW, do you have a name for it already?

makaron
07-09-2007, 10:25 PM
flower power in space :applause:
love that spaceship... can you call a spaceship cute? well, this one is gonna be...

looking forward to see more :bounce:

BaronImpossible
07-09-2007, 10:28 PM
That paint job is coming along well! Not sure whether a hippy spaceship would have rocket-power, though, more like spliff power. Now there's a thought :)

Jeffparadox
07-09-2007, 10:52 PM
Hey man, that's a hillarious concept. I love your model, and now seeing it being colored is making me impatient.

Can't wait to see how this one's gonna come out, so much fun!!!

great job, good luck..

OKMER
07-10-2007, 12:50 AM
Hehe!Ronfflll,excellent!
Those textures rock's.Nice smooth feeling about them.
Love the mat/acrylic look of the paintwork on the cockpit.
Indeed some scratches and dirt will make it rock even more then it already does!
Happy,happy with my seat down here!:D

LightSovereign
07-10-2007, 04:56 AM
Howdy, Mark

I think that this entire competition is your fault :P..the only artist to not take EON too seriously, and look at what the next competition is...Sheesh!

Loving your piece already, has a distinct "Mark David" feel about this :D ahaha.

Awesome work already mate.

Marley

polygonwarrior
07-10-2007, 05:44 AM
looking good so far.will follow ur thread.best of luck :thumbsup:

mdavid
07-10-2007, 05:56 AM
Gunilla
Hey thanks Gunilla! I'm glad you like the timber deck. Of course that's where our hero the astronaut will be sipping his drinks and getting his tan from the cosmic rays. I've rendered up an update of where I'm at, with all the parts labeled, appearing right after this post. I hope that helps. I'm glad you like the hippy paintwork too. I'm looking forward to doing more of that on the rest of hull

Ramitxon
Thank you Ramón. Much appreciated mate!

Try
Cheers Per. Thanks for your suggestion on how to fix the barrels/water tanks too. It was an excellent suggestion and it helped a lot. I've now put a bulge-deformer onto the tanks and my next step will be to change the geometric-looking metal rims into more friendly-looking shapes. Hey I'm delighted to see you in the challenge too

icedeyes
Hey thanks buddy. I'm having a lot of fun with this. I'll add that I'm super-impressed with the old-woman face you created in your thread

shakes
Cheers John. I can't wait to see how your entry comes together. You really are the master of strange funny 3D animals - this challenge is perfect for your talents

miru
Thanks mate! No, I don't have a name for it at this point

makaron
Flower power in space? Absolutely! My EON entry had a hot-rod in space so I figure it's about time that space got some flower power for a bit of balance

BaronImpossible
That's a lovely funny idea for an energy source. Thank you. :) I'm tempted to hold onto the rockets though because my concept involves what was originally a regular space vehicle being gradually run down by an astronaut going mad from too many years of solitude. But thank you for the very clever suggestion

hede
Thank you! Much appreciated :)

OKMER
Thanks Remko. I really appreciate your feedback, as always mate, and am very glad you like the paintwork. Yep, some scratches and stuff are planned once I see how the whole paintwork thing comes together. I want it to look really badly-maintained, like, well, like the average hippy car

LightSovereign
Hey Marley, great to hear from you mate!I think that this entire competition is your fault :P..the only artist to not take EON too seriously, and look at what the next competition is...Sheesh! LOL! Well, I don't see how anyone could think my EON entry wasn't a serious investigation into rocket science! I mean, I put a great deal of research into the fox tail hanging off one of those spaceship's antenna. Hey, now there's a thought - it might be time for me to make another fox tail - I've already done the antenna. By the way, any chance of seeing you in this challenge?

CUBISIS
Thank you :) Much appreciated

mdavid
07-10-2007, 05:56 AM
http://assets.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/19/12757/12757_1184043389_medium.jpg (http://assets.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/19/12757/12757_1184043389_large.jpg)

Gunilla suggested I label the bits I've done so far - thanks for an excellent suggestion! So here's another render showing what I've done so far. Of course there will be more detail and more clutter - I'd like the scene to be quite rich in colour and detail

miketche
07-10-2007, 06:01 AM
Well I'm glad you've got a washline and cupboard. You should never venture into space without them.

LightSovereign
07-10-2007, 06:08 AM
By the way, any chance of seeing you in this challenge?


Yea, i actually visited this forum for the first time today and spotted your entry and thought this would cool comp to enter..

i have an idea so i'll get sketching then fire up..its kinda unusual and hopefully original..

Ive kept my view of other entries to an extreme minimum :nod:.

Marley

Gunilla
07-10-2007, 06:31 AM
Good! This will be very helpful for us non-techies when it comes to understanding the discussion of different functions. Also it makes it easier to spot what may be missing. Such as a general hygien space. Or is that hose on the right water tank leading to a shower?

shakes
07-10-2007, 06:45 AM
haha, that's brilliant, the diagram Mark! hilarious stuff. love the bandaid

trickmonkey
07-10-2007, 06:57 AM
MArk,
You spacehsip model is looking fantastic so far.
Great to see another Aussie on board.
Andy

Try
07-10-2007, 07:28 AM
Wow Mark you are a technical wizard indeed! This looks so believable.

Just one question….

I can see no toilet or septic tank on board? Is that something still on the drawing board, or is space like the nature maybe (one giant toilet)?

Zapan
07-10-2007, 07:52 AM
Hey Mark

omg that's truely awesome ... thx man for the explanations , great to know all the functions of that baby :thumbsup:

can't wait for more

cheers ,

-Zapan

icedeyes
07-10-2007, 08:40 AM
the timber deck is blending in extremelly nicely... love it... keep it up mark...

mdavid
07-10-2007, 10:36 AM
miketche
Absolutely right, Michael. Washlines and cupboards are essential in space. People always underestimate the importance of finding a clean pair of socks

LightSovereign
I'll keep an eye out for your thread Marley. I enjoyed watching your work last time :)

Gunilla
I'm glad that helped. It's been a steep learning curve for me, Gunilla, learning about space ship design and all that. I though EON left me fully educated on such matters but oh no, this time I had to find out about timber decks. I tell you, rocket science is harder than it looks. But you raise a vitally important issue here, as to the whereabouts of general hygiene spaces and so on. It's an appalling oversight to leave these issues unexplained so I've prepared another graphic. I hope it helps explain how the accommodation area is laid out. Yes, those hoses and pipes do lead to the bathroom area, eventually. They run under the floorboards for a while first, because a spaceship without plumbing noises just isn't a spaceship.

http://www.mdavid.com.au/cg/accom.jpg

Close examination of the graphic will reveal that this is an astronaut who values games more than personal hygiene, which could go a long way to explain why he's alone in space

shakes
Cheers buddy. It's hard to beat a good ol' band aid for cartoony effect eh?

trickmonkey
Hey Andy, you bet - we Aussies have to take part in these things! Thanks for the kind words mate :)

Try
Hey Per, thank you buddy. I'm really glad you like it. Once again you raise a vitally important question though, so I prepared a graphic (seen above) which explains the layout of the accommodation area. I hope it makes sense

Zapan
Thanks buddy. I'm glad you liked the graphic

icedeyes
I'm really glad you think the timber deck is working. I'm hoping it should look nice and cluttered when I've got the astronaut and his dead pot plants out there on top

MVDB
07-10-2007, 10:42 AM
Thanx for the comment on my works on the other challenge. Sorry I couldn't finish that one then.. Ah well..

Your modeling looks ace! Really impressive.. I'm in love with the catapult weapon, very creative.. Keep going!

eRKK
07-10-2007, 12:34 PM
Ohh, how could it function without the sharp thing?! :scream: This IS great!!

mlru
07-10-2007, 03:11 PM
Uuuh, this doesn't look THAT roomy on the inside :eek:
No wonder he's going to stretch a bit on the outside!

Gaming is good, but I miss a neat galley, maybe with a nice chimney? :D
Space travelling can make you very hungry (and thirsty), you know...

Gunilla
07-10-2007, 05:22 PM
Excellent! This makes the situation so much clearer. I'm a bit sad to see that his space for communication is so small - Does this mean he doesn't have a fully working internet connection or does that reside in the games area?
I'm so glad you are willing to share your hard earned expertise in spaceship design with us. I'm learning so much just from following your thread.

Oh, and nice touch with the plumbing noises :thumbsup:

BaronImpossible
07-10-2007, 05:30 PM
Just had a look at your gallery - that Eon pic is wonderful!

nwiz25
07-10-2007, 05:31 PM
holy cow! :eek: :eek: u kno wat buddy .. i always have n always will be lovin ur work! :love: for its humour, art, and that 'feel good' look ... awesome man! details with a cartoony style blends well here! can't wait to c the rest of the textures man! :bounce: :eek:

beautiful update! :love:


cheers buddy! :beer:

Sagacious
07-11-2007, 07:12 AM
Mark, I love the style with this... I usually just roam through here and look at all the great art but this is just awsome! :thumbsup:

Swizzle
07-11-2007, 07:46 AM
This is looking pretty badass, mdavid. Do you know what sort of look you're going for with the final textures? I see some flower power-type stuff there at the nose, so are you going to continue the theme?

mim-Armand
07-11-2007, 09:40 AM
Great work mark, so Funny style!
I'll check your thread soon by soon for any updates! really intresting theme!! ;)

mim, :thumbsup:

mdavid
07-11-2007, 03:51 PM
MVDB
Hey thanks Michael, I'm glad you like the weapon. I'm hoping that when it's textured it should look a bit more noticeable

The eRK
Thanks Erik! You're absolutely right - you'd never want to venture into outer space without one of those sharp things

miru
Not very roomy, no. The astronaut's been going crazy a long time and things therefore aren't what they should be. Thanks for the suggestion of a chimney. One part of me wants to keep the spaceship just vaguely capable of surviving the vacuum of space, but then the astronaut is going to be outside getting a tan, so this is obviously not a scientific approach I'm taking here. So your chimney idea might yet happen :)

Gunilla
Thanks Gunilla. Regarding the astronaut's internet connection, I guess it wouldn't be so good in outer space. No wonder he's going crazy! I'm mighty glad my intensive rocket science research is helpful

BaronImpossible
Hey thanks Simon. I really appreciate that :)

nwiz25
Awwww, thanks Neville! :) Much appreciated matey

Sagacious
Thanks Jeremy. It's really nice of you to say that. Thanks for dropping by this thread mate :)

Swizzle
Thank you! Yes, I sure do plan to continue the flower-power theme into the rest of the hull's paintwork. And lots of scratches and accumulated grime and stuff too. I want it to not only be decorated like a hippy car, but also be in really bad condition like a typical hippy car

mim-Armand
Thank you very much! I really appreciate those kind words. :) I'm not making very fast progress at the moment but I hope to keep a reasonably steady flow of updates coming. By the way, I love your avatar!

mdavid
07-11-2007, 03:51 PM
http://assets.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/19/12757/12757_1184165480_medium.jpg (http://assets.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/19/12757/12757_1184165480_large.jpg)

Here's another update, showing a start with the hippy painting on the next section of the hull. If you want you can enlarge it a bit by clicking on it.

You'll notice that I have a lot of grime to add in the new section - it looks far too clean and respectable at the moment!

I must admit, I still have more modeling to do, but I was really keen to start playing with textures.

- Mark

miketche
07-11-2007, 08:09 PM
I must admit, I still have more modeling to do, but I was really keen to start playing with textures.

- Mark

I know how that is. Sometimes it's difficult to just model with out working on the textures too. You just want to start seeing it come together and textures can really do that. Although sometimes it helps to texture as you're modeling.

walrus
07-11-2007, 08:44 PM
I must admit, I still have more modeling to do, but I was really keen to start playing with textures.

With textures like these, I don't blame you! I love the flowery paint on the ship so far. Great idea! But hey, with so much personality on the ship's exterior, you would think there would be a bit more on the one part of the interior that we can see, the cockpit. What about some fuzzy dice hanging from the open hatch? Too bad we can't see the back of the ship, I bet it would have some great bumper stickets... well, maybe some can go on the tanks?

Keep it coming!

Demitsuri
07-11-2007, 09:15 PM
Nice "happy traveling" ship. :)

Keep it going.

mdavid
07-12-2007, 07:06 AM
miketche
Cheers Michael. That makes me feel better. Patience is not one of my strong points

walrus
Thank you! I totally agree with your idea about putting more stuff into the cockpit. Thanks for your suggestions. I especially like your idea of the stickers too - I can imagine seeing some on the water tanks (the things hanging off the side).

Demitsuri
Thank you! Much appreciated :)


---------------------------
I'm now thinking hippy art just wouldn't be proper hippy art without at least one rainbow-and-surf scene, so as well as some stickers, the water tanks are going to get a mural

mlru
07-12-2007, 07:54 AM
One part of me wants to keep the spaceship just vaguely capable of surviving the vacuum of space, but then the astronaut is going to be outside getting a tan, so this is obviously not a scientific approach I'm taking here.

LOL, obviously not :D
That is, of course, unless you don't have a nice Private Atmosphere Generator (tm) enclosing the ship with some breathable air

Russell-Nash
07-12-2007, 08:21 AM
Hi Mark,
this is by far the coolest spaceship I have seen in years. Great work.
The one thing about the texture that bothers me is: It looks to clean. Is the green color supposed to be the original color of the ship? I think a hippie astronaut wouldn't paint it green in total before painting his flowers and peace signs on it. Also they mostly don't use airbrush or something similar. They use brushes and paint. I am missing some "running noses" and may be add a little bump map to the paint so one can see the brush strokes.
But these are only my 2 ct.

Once again :buttrock:

Gunilla
07-12-2007, 08:26 AM
Yes! The textures are really coming on fine. May I suggest adding a rainbow on the front of the fuel tank? :)

musi
07-12-2007, 09:17 AM
Nice work! Very beautiful modeling and texturing...

And I just want to follow your thread :D

gpepper
07-12-2007, 09:28 AM
Excellent job Mark I love this ship ! Flowa powa !

Zycho
07-12-2007, 12:34 PM
Wow! Really nice work!

Love the texture! How did you do that? Handpainted in PS or something? Really cool!

Very nice model also! Good amount of details!

handlebar
07-12-2007, 01:09 PM
Lol Mark, all it need's now is a surfboard rack, and some huge speakers blasting out the beachboys. Great progress, the most original spaceship i've ever seen.

Steve 8)

icedeyes
07-12-2007, 01:34 PM
So.... Hippies are the future? (remind self to invest on bad taste):scream:

Great texture on the ship... looks like John Lennon's tapestry... The part i love the most is the sun rays around the cockpit...

Keep it up Mark

Essen
07-12-2007, 04:37 PM
Hippiespaceship :D hehe! Need some VW Sign in the Front :D

mdavid
07-13-2007, 01:14 AM
http://assets.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/19/12757/12757_1184285682_medium.jpg (http://assets.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/19/12757/12757_1184285682_large.jpg)

Here's the plan I've working to for the painting on the bits of the hull. The idea is that there's a rainbow-and-field scene in the round shape, alongside where the timber deck will go, and everything below that will be grass and vines and flowers (thus the green background).

I've been working away at this and will hopefully be able to post the finished hull paintwork in the next day or so, although there will more paintings on the water tanks (not shown in this render)

My sincere thanks to everyone who has offered feedback and suggestions so far. It has been amazing and I truly appreciate it :)

- Mark

mdavid
07-13-2007, 01:14 AM
miru
That is, of course, unless you don't have a nice Private Atmosphere Generator (tm) enclosing the ship with some breathable airNow that would be handy!

Russel-Nash
Many thanks Torsten. Thanks for your observations and comments about the green too. I've just posted a small update which should hopefully answer some of your questions Is the green color supposed to be the original color of the ship?No that would be very strange indeed and so you ask a very good question. Some hippy cars that I remember were exactly like you describe them, with peace signs and stuff painted over the existing car colour. But other hippy cars I remember (and when I say, 'I remember' I don't mean it's my cars I'm remembering!) had the full paint-over treatment, where the whole thing was turned into some kind of badly-done moving mural. That's what my astronaut did. He had plenty of time for it (although I have no idea where he got the paint, or the timber for the timber deck either, for that matter) You'll see in the update that my plan is for him to have painted all the hull components like a field with flowers and the rear section painted as hills, a palm tree and a rainbow, set as a backdrop for his much-loved timber deck. I just couldn't imagine a hippy not painting a rainbow in that arch-shape! As for the rough paint brush work, I couldn't agree more. Perhaps my art looks a bit airbrushed in my updates but in higher resolution it hopefully looks more like it was painted with a brush. And it will definitely be more dirty when it's all finished! :)

Gunilla
Thanks Gunilla. Yes, yes, yes! A rainbow on one of the tanks is definitely part of the plan, as well as the rainbow on the rounded rear section of the hull! Being one of the only flat surfaces in the entire scene I intend to make that his artistic high point! Thank you for suggesting it

musi
Thank you Alexandra. I really appreciate that :)

gpepper
Flowa powa indeed! Thank you!

Zycho
Thanks Jakob! That is very kind of you. I used BodyPaint to paint the textures onto the hull. Some of the resulting texture maps I edited a bit in Photoshop. Also, to save render times I've been baking the Ambient Occlusion for each of the bits of the hull. Ambient Occlusion intensifies the darkness/dirtiness in the seams and edges. So the resulting model is a proper 3D object with textures applied to its 3D surfaces, although to save time I haven't done as much painting of flowers and stuff on the side you can't see. But I can always do that at a later time if I plan to rotate the model

handlebar
Hahah! A roof rack on top would be funny. I was tempted to have a wooden panel along part of the hull too, like those 'town and country' versions of station wagons they used to make. But a surfboard definitely. I'm going to put one in there, jammed into the gap between one of the water tanks and the hull. Thanks for your very kind words mate

icedeyes
Thank you George. We sure have a lot of imagery to thank hippies for. Sun rays, rainbows, fluffy carpets, beads, peace signs. You know, you've got me thinking - I was going to put some more stuff in the cockpit. Walrus suggested fluffy dice and stuff like that. I could have a lot more fun with this...

Essen
Cheers Marcus. That's a really nice idea for the VW sign. I guess I could hang it over the sharp thing sticking out of the front. I'll give that some serious thought. Thank you :)

mdavid
07-13-2007, 09:15 AM
http://assets.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/19/12757/12757_1184314546_medium.jpg (http://assets.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/19/12757/12757_1184314546_large.jpg)

I've finally put the hippy paint over the hull. There's still a lot of details to add to the modeling and some paintings for the water tanks

- Mark

polygonwarrior
07-13-2007, 09:22 AM
ur spaceship is looking really funny.keep up the good work.will catch ur thread later.

Ramitxon
07-13-2007, 09:42 AM
Hi Mark, Haha... Grrreat ship. I wanna go on a trip on it. Fantastic work, and you keep up a good pace, the end is near. I keep my eyes nailed on your thread. :thumbsup:

icedeyes
07-13-2007, 10:03 AM
the sky and rainbow look very good and do give out a very laid back feeling... just like your character's feelings... and the flufy dices would certainly work nice...

Gunilla
07-13-2007, 10:27 AM
She's a beauty - I love that rainbow. Now only thing that seems missing is one of these:
hippi leaf (http://www1.umn.edu/umnnews/img/assets/19725/pot-leaf-big.jpg)

I don't understand what you will do with this for four months, having got so far already - perhaps making an animation of it?

NomadSoul2501
07-13-2007, 11:33 AM
Cool entry.
I particularly love the fact that you deviate from the whole star-wars look that almost everyone follows these days.
Its still early, but I would like to see more 'chaos' in the texture, for a hippie look its kinda to neat.
I love what you did with the recreational deck, the rainbow and everything totaly work.
The character concepts of the astronaut realy fit in there.

what will the background be like?
asteroid field, twin suns? glaciers like in titan a.e.?

I hipped to see more!

keep it up

http://forums.cgsociety.org/showthread.php?t=516700

Ivy00
07-13-2007, 11:34 AM
lol , hippies in space weeeee love the bandages on the nose :D

Nigio
07-13-2007, 11:56 AM
Fantastic modelling work. The whole concept is superb, and very funny :-)

mdavid
07-13-2007, 12:46 PM
CUBISIS
Thank you Rishikesh. I'm glad you like it

Ramitxon
Cheers Ramón. I'm not sure the end is near yet, although the basic shell of the space ship is close to finished at least. Much more to do ;)

icedeyes
Thanks George. Well then it looks like fluffy dice will be included

Gunilla
Thanks Gunilla! LOL! How could I forget the hippy leaf? I guess all the years of illustrating kids' books has left a filter in my brain!I don't understand what you will do with this for four months, having got so far already - perhaps making an animation of it?I know I hit the ground running on this one - looks like I'm almost finished - but I'm actually kind of on schedule. The plan is to spend about a month on the spaceship, another month on the deck-chair scene (with astronaut) and the background could take more than a month, partly because I haven't a clue yet what I'm going to do there - I don't know if I'll model a background or paint it. But if I do end up with time to spare at the end then animating it would sure be fun!

NomadSoul2501
Thank you. Much appreciated! I suppose I'm just really keen to try my own thing here, and I agree, there are already many people who are amazingly good at the Star Wars look. I'm glad you think my approach is going okay. I appreciate your point about the artwork looking too neat too. Now I've got a basic look put in place I'll be able to sort of mess things up a bit. As for the background, I haven't a clue what I'll be doing! But with 4 months on this challenge we're in the luxurious position of being able to be fairly ambitious

Ivy00
Hey thanks Linda. Yeah, bandages in space, or I guess NASA would call them something like Hull Decompromising Adhesive Units

Nigio
Thank you mate! Much appreciated!

mdavid
07-13-2007, 12:46 PM
http://assets.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/19/12757/12757_1184327193_medium.jpg (http://assets.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/19/12757/12757_1184327193_large.jpg)

I've got a water tank hanging off each side of the spaceship and I just can't imagine a hippy leaving them undecorated. So I need to decide on two painting ideas. When I was a kid, the hippy art tended to focus a lot on the 'perfect wave' and desert scenes. Any ideas which work best or is there something better I should do?

- Mark

mlru
07-13-2007, 01:42 PM
in waste and dry space - surf, definitely :wise:

you already have a groovy rainbow, suns and stars are a lot surrounding in space (think, our pilot is quite sick of them) and desert - well - a little dull.

no, surf is fine for me :thumbsup:

walrus
07-13-2007, 02:19 PM
He's right - if they're water tanks, they've got to show water. Also, I think the blue/green of the water would compliment the green on the ship better without sticking out like a sore thumb. #1.

Thaldir
07-13-2007, 02:43 PM
Another vote for surf here, just for the reasons already mentioned.:thumbsup:

Ivy00
07-13-2007, 02:54 PM
I like the surf too, there was also a lot of Psychedelic marbelizing type art then too I think. Not sure if you could work that into the scene or not, but something to think about. Maybe the fuel tanks should be acid vats then they can be going on an acid trip, ha ha ha bad joke sorry bout that couldn't help myself :bounce:

Geta-Ve
07-13-2007, 06:08 PM
Fantastic work mate! Very hippyish!

Russell-Nash
07-13-2007, 07:17 PM
I would vote for the Surf pic with an additional rainbow. And may be a tribute to John Lennon on the other one.

handlebar
07-13-2007, 11:22 PM
Great sketches Mark. I like the surf and the sun one for different reasons. The sun and stars seem to fit well with the space concept, the surf one is just cool.

Steve 8)

shakes
07-13-2007, 11:55 PM
fantastic painting Mark! I love the new additions to the ship-looks perfect! it really is a superb model. as for the new hippy paintings, I like no1 and no 3..keep it up buddy!

mdavid
07-14-2007, 01:09 AM
Many thanks to all who voted! In this instance it probably makes sense to reply to you all at once.

Reading your comments was very helpful (and encouraging) as it always is. The water wins easily. So I'll put surf scenes in each of the water tanks' flat surfaces and I'll put stickers on the corrugated rounded surfaces.

When I look at the hull the flower pattern is looking too uniform - I'm thinking it's looking more like wallpaper than the painted expressions of a half-mad hippy. I'm also reminded of Torsten's earlier comment when he thought the paintwork was looking too clean, and since then NomadSoul2501 mentioned the paintwork looking too 'neat'. So this is really pointing to something I can do which I think will enhance it.

On the hull paintwork I'll break up the evenness of the flower pattern with a more random addition of stuff - that's where I can find a home for a cactus or two, along with more scratches and general signs of wear. I might also stick a giant peace symbol under the slingshot weapon - there's a potential for a little bit of irony there which I think could be fun

- Mark

makaron
07-14-2007, 05:07 PM
I might also stick a giant peace symbol under the slingshot weapon - there's a potential for a little bit of irony there which I think could be fun

- Mark

perfect! no peace sign, no hippie... :thumbsup:

Gord-MacDonald
07-14-2007, 05:51 PM
I llike where you are headed - nice style. :thumbsup:

btw - I just picked up a copy of "New and Used BLAB" yesterday - a kind of trippy underground cartoon collection - that and the beatles lyrics have got me thinking wild and psychedellic

Gord

Jeffparadox
07-14-2007, 08:17 PM
This is coming along beautifully, I agree to your decision on breaking the flower pattern a bit, man it's fun to watch this one..

I'd pick the wavy design too, I think you've made the right decision, you could even look at some "Sublime" albums cover art to get some more ideas for the wavy design, and for the rest. I remember they have incredibly hippyish, elegantly done album covers.

This is one of my favorite entries, great to see progress, keep them coming!

icedeyes
07-16-2007, 09:17 AM
Hey mark... a little late too but i also think the surf scene will work better... also, if you think about dirt-ing it up, why dont you just do that? I mean, add dirt and mud over the ship... just an idea..

mdavid
07-16-2007, 11:34 AM
makaron
Thanks Mona. I couldn't agree more!

Gord-MacDonald
Cheers Gord. There's a fantastic supply of psychedelic art out there. So I might still change my paintwork, based on getting ideas from stuff like what you're talking about.

hede
Thank you very much! I really appreciate what you say. I'm glad you like the wavy designs - you'll see that I've gone ahead with a couple for the water tanks. Thanks also for your tip about the Sublime album covers - that sounds very interesting

icedeyes
Thank you mate! I appreciate your suggestion to add more dirt. I've now set up my spaceship so I can do exactly that!

mdavid
07-16-2007, 11:35 AM
http://assets.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/19/12757/12757_1184582109_medium.jpg (http://assets.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/19/12757/12757_1184582109_large.jpg)

I still haven't finished texturing these bits but I've made enough progress to post another update. Once again, you can click on the image to see it a bit bigger.

Many of the meshes in the spaceship are unwrapped now - that took a while - and their textures are applied in multiple layers, which makes it really easy and fast to make changes. For example, I've got a green base layer, then a layer of decorations and then a layer of grime/mud on top of it all.

I'd like to work on the decorations a bit - to make it look still more varied and perhaps a bit more elegant than it is now. I'm not pretending that the astronaut is a fine artist, but I'm sure you can understand why I'd like to make his artworks look just a little bit nicer!

Apart from some more texturing, I still have plenty of modeling work to do on the spaceship - especially in the cockpit

- Mark

Jeffparadox
07-16-2007, 11:38 AM
someone's gotta animate this

mlru
07-16-2007, 01:02 PM
looking from the front, the paintings on the watertanks and the back wall could even assemble into on big image, grrreat! :applause:


peace, man, plaster and rock 'n' roll :buttrock:

walrus
07-16-2007, 02:19 PM
Looking great, Mark - always excited to see new updates on your thread here. I have a few observations and thought to share, if I may...?

Love the peace symbol! Love most of the main hull, in fact. It's really coming together! For the main engine, might I suggest that you move the rainbow down a tad so that there's some white-space (blue space) above it? It feels tight up there, and I can't really explain why, it's just my graphic-designer senses tingling (they're kind of like Spidey-senses, only not) and telling me to suggest to you to move that down a tad.

The colors on that tak are great, btw, they really work well with the rest of the ship. The images on the ends of the smaller tanks don't work quite as well with the rest of the ship. The images are fine, but the colors are too desaturated so they don't blend in as well - they seem painted by someone else, or just decalled on. Bringing in more hints of the green and the happier blue that you have in the top sky would help a lot to tue it all together, I think.

I think the giant peace symbol by the slingshop is fantastic. So much so that the smaller ones on the wings feel superfluous. They need something big there, but maybe not the peace symbols - what about orange, cartoony flames?

Lastly, it's nice to have some ammo, but your rock feels too realistic for the style of the rest of the ship - what about trying something smoother with more cartoony craters, like a chunk of the asteroid from your last challenge entry? Just an idea...

Hope you're still having fun with it. Cheers!

varma
07-16-2007, 04:44 PM
Hey Mark!
Your thread is evolving at a very high warp speed, no wonder I missed a couple of posts!
Love everything you have added to the concept since last time, though the color plallette
for the texturing could need more tweak, imho!
I like especially the timber deck addition to the whole!
I think with the new twist of the spaceship, the hippy style, which is really fascinating, it
could call for a twist for the pilot design as well, namely he could be leaning back instead
of laying down, playing a Saxofon, and since there are no atmosphere to transfer the
sound waves, he would have to jack in a hugh headphone through a spiral cord, and listen
to his own music, blues of course!

You are doing great, keep it up!
:thumbsup:

Gunilla
07-16-2007, 05:16 PM
Ahhh - just getting better, there's nothing can stop you now as it seems :thumbsup:
I'm all with walrus on lowering the rainbow just a tad other than that - fab!
... but I still can't see that pot leaf? :)

shakes
07-16-2007, 09:21 PM
sheesh Mark! the painting details are fantastic-it's great to see your drawing skills getting a showcase on your 3d skills-top stuff

Jeffparadox
07-16-2007, 09:37 PM
Lastly, it's nice to have some ammo, but your rock feels too realistic for the style of the rest of the ship - what about trying something smoother with more cartoony craters, like a chunk of the asteroid from your last challenge entry? Just an idea...



Personally, I can see that, though, I really liked the rock when I saw it, it doesn't seem out of place to me, and it breaks the uniformity in the style of the image a little bit, which adds to it to my opinion.

Other than that, I agree with the rainbow suggestion..

octopus7
07-16-2007, 11:12 PM
Beautfiul modelling and texturing. I don't blame you for not wanting to exactly duplicate a rocket engine! it'd take weeks to do the thousands of pipes, fuel lines, wiring etc that make one up. Great textures as well, dirty and grimy always looks best!

icedeyes
07-17-2007, 08:00 AM
i dont really think that the rock looks strange but i do agree with Michael that an asteroid piece might fit there a little better... keep it up Mark

Goro
07-17-2007, 06:25 PM
hehe this is looking really good mark! Love your texturing work!
hmm and I'm a bit confused...did you change the perspective of the character in your Avatar pic? Or am I just crazy??

Looking forward to your next update!

ASSASSIN3
07-17-2007, 08:21 PM
h.mmm ... looks too good ..man.
best of luck for ur work and concept.
cheers


my concept
http://forums.cgsociety.org/showthread.php?f=225&t=518377

handlebar
07-17-2007, 09:43 PM
Nice update Mark, really looking forward to the dirt stage, that will be the iceing on the cake.

Steve 8)

Russell-Nash
07-19-2007, 06:18 PM
Great update on the texture. That peace sign next to the slingshot is marvellous. Reminds me a little bit to that Kubrik film "Dr. Strangelove..." where they were fighting in front of that "Peace is our profession" sign.

Slav
07-19-2007, 06:46 PM
almost done the ship! gogo! i dont think there anything else to say about this. but great work, and more updates?

nwiz25
07-19-2007, 08:15 PM
holy mama!! :eek: awesome details bro! :eek: there's so much in ur work ... creativity ... colour ... humour ... even the bandages speak for themselves! and oh yes ... gotta love the peace sign man! :buttrock: ... sweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet! :applause::D
god bless ya bro! :love: good luck! :thumbsup:

mdavid
07-21-2007, 11:34 AM
I've been out of town all week, which is why I haven't updated anything for a while. I had a great time - my girlfriend and I headed inland to a whole bunch of places including Mudgee. Mudgee is a rural town about 4 hours drive from Sydney and while we were there we saw kangaroos all over the place. They'd come down in huge numbers from the surrounding hills and made themselves at home in suburban gardens and parks (like the ones in this pic). Apparently, last week they'd even come close to the town centre. Now that is very unusual! I'll point out here that a big kangaroo can be quite dangerous. They can lean back on their tail and kick you with their powerful clawed back feet, so the locals were especially concerned about the safety of their kids.

http://www.mdavid.com.au/cg/roos.jpg

But now onto serious matters. Did I say serious? What I meant to say was, now onto this illustration ...

hede
Hey buddy, I might animate this when I've finished it. Even if it's just the spaceship doing a fly-past it would be fun to see it moving

miru
Thank you mate! I'm glad you think the paintings are working. I'm thinking I still need to tweak them a bit though so I hope you still like them when I'm finished

walrus
Once again you've been mighty generous with your expertise and your time Michael. Thank you. I read all your comments carefully (well, I read everyone's comments carefully) and I think you are right in what in you say. With the rainbow, yes, I agree totally that it will look better pulled back from the edge. With the colours of the water-tank illustrations, yes I agree with you there too. They do seem a bit saturated. With the extra peace symbols, I agree once again (this is sounding monotonous) and I'll take those little ones out. Rather than flames though I might put in a few marijuana leaves like Gunilla mentioned - I think they'd suit the whole hippy theme really well. And as for the rock, yes I see what you mean about that too. I want to make it sort of look realistic, but also a bit cartoony. I believe I can achieve both with some changes to my textures, but I'm also tempted to try out your asteroid idea too. I really appreciate your honesty and your extremely helpful feedback Michael. Thanks again mate!

varma
Thanks Mathius. Hopefully the colour palette will look a bit better once I've changed the water tank illustrations a bit, and also put in the hippy astronaut and his beach umbrella and other furnishings. I want the spaceship's colours to look fairly uniform so that the hippy will stand out more. Thanks for the idea about the Saxofon too. I'll give that a lot of thought

Gunilla
Hey Gunilla, thank you! Yep, the pot leaf will be making an appearance. Actually, more than one appearance. Thanks again for the suggestion :)

shakes
Thanks John. :) I'm glad you're liking it

octopus7
Ahh! Another Aussie! Cool! Thanks for your kind words. You are totally right about the complexity of rocket engines. Because my rocket engines would be mostly hidden then I figured it wouldn't be any problem to cut a few corners there

icedeyes and hede
Thank you. I hope you'll like the rock after I've changed it a bit

Goro
Thanks mate! No, you are definitely not going crazy. I changed my avatar's perspective slightly, just like how you noticed

ASSASSIN3
Thank you! Much appreciated :)

handlebar
Cheers Steve! There will be a bit more dirt, yes, but probably not too much more because I want the hippy paintwork to still be identifiable

Russel-Nash
Thanks Torsten. Yeah that Dr Strangelove was clever stuff. I really must rent the DVD and watch it again

Slav
Thank you! Yeah I'm getting close now, but still more to do on the ship though. A bit of tweaking of the textures/painting and then a bunch of added details to the modeling, although it's harder to notice the additional work now, because anything new gets lost among all the earlier work

nwiz25
Hey Neville, thanks matey! Much appreciated as always. And a new avatar for you too. Really nice pic! :thumbsup:

mdavid
07-21-2007, 12:54 PM
http://assets.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/19/12757/12757_1185018843_medium.jpg (http://assets.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/19/12757/12757_1185018843_large.jpg)

I was commenting to Torsten about how I'm now rendering my spaceship in three layers. So here's a bit more detail about that.

This image should be pretty self-explanatory. I have to render it like this because it just takes far too long otherwise, and my computer is also reaching the limits of its memory if I try to do it in one hit. I use Cinema 4D's alpha channel option when I render, so I don't have to deep etch anything. Another advantage is that I no longer have to render the whole spaceship when I change just one part of it

- Mark

nwiz25
07-22-2007, 05:46 AM
I was commenting to Torsten about how I'm now rendering my spaceship in three layers. So here's a bit more detail about that.

This image should be pretty self-explanatory. I have to render it like this because it just takes far too long otherwise, and my computer is also reaching the limits of its memory if I try to do it in one hit. I use Cinema 4D's alpha channel option when I render, so I don't have to deep etch anything. Another advantage is that I no longer have to render the whole spaceship when I change just one part of it

- Mark


damn ... :eek: i wish u good luck bro :( .... i'm with ya ... my pc is in desperate need of memory as well ... they're so needed these days ... they're like prancing all over the place and teasing us sayin .. 'catch me if u can .. catch me if u can .. u want me!' :surprised:argh:

Try
07-22-2007, 01:20 PM
Hey Mark.

Good to hear you have taken some time of (so have I, just returned from one week of sunny summer holiday in Spain).

And to hear that you actually have time for a girlfriend on top of everything else you do. By the amount of work you put in to this challenge I thought you spent all your free time in front of the pc screen.



Really nice picture of the local wildlife by the way!

They'd come down in huge numbers from the surrounding hills and made themselves at home in suburban gardens and parks (like the ones in this pic). Apparently, last week they'd even come close to the town centre. Now that is very unusual! I'll point out here that a big kangaroo can be quite dangerous. They can lean back on their tail and kick you with their powerful clawed back feet, so the locals were especially concerned about the safety of their kids.


Hmm… when you describe it like this it sounds like a local phenomenon where I live. We call them “tourists” ( I live in a small “tourist town” by the Oslo fjord).

Ship is looking better and better. Really like the style of the décor. My only concern is that you might be finished in a few more weeks.

And go slowly crazy, watching the rest of us struggling to finish…

mdavid
07-22-2007, 02:57 PM
nwiz25
Hey thanks Neville. Yeah, it's always nice to get more RAM, but I'm sure I can make things work with what I've got here, even if I have to render this thing in 10 layers (which looks like being a real possibility)

Try
Hey Per. I'm glad you took a break too mate. Spain sounds like a brilliant place for a holiday. No wonder your avatar looks so healthy and relaxed! As for me finishing my illustration some time soon, well I'm not so sure about that. I've still got a whole bunch of things to do on the spaceship and then I'm expecting to spend a fair bit of time on the astronaut stuff. And I haven't a clue what I'll be doing for a background

mdavid
07-22-2007, 02:57 PM
http://assets.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/19/12757/12757_1185112671_medium.jpg (http://assets.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/19/12757/12757_1185112671_large.jpg)

I've made a bunch of small changes and have also done some more texturing. The changes are:
- moved the rainbow away from the edge a bit
- took out the small peace signs and put in some marijuana leaves
- changed the texture on the rock. I decided against making it look like an asteroid with craters because I'm now thinking that would make the rock look too big
- used some of the paint colours from the hull in the water tank artworks

Because this illustration is going to be a high-resolution image - and because we have 4 months on this challenge - I'm keen to add a lot of extra detail to the spaceship, like things in the cockpit and antennas and bits of wiring and a bunch of other stuff like that

- Mark

walrus
07-22-2007, 05:18 PM
:thumbsup:

Gunilla
07-22-2007, 05:24 PM
:applause:

Yeah, that's some groovy ship now.

What about the surroundings? Will he be alone in space, sunbathing and going mad?
Or will he be doing the above unaware of the horror that slowly closes in on him from the back? :twisted:

mdavid
07-23-2007, 05:35 AM
walrus
Thanks again mate :)

Gunilla
Cheers Gunilla. The truth is I don't know yet about the background, although I really like your suggestion of some nearby horror - that's got me thinking. Thanks for that

mdavid
07-23-2007, 05:35 AM
http://assets.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/19/12757/12757_1185165341_medium.jpg (http://assets.cgsociety.org/challenge/entries/19/12757/12757_1185165341_large.jpg)

I want to keep working on this spaceship to give it a kind of messy/cluttered hippy-shack look. I think it's not enough to just have an aged paint job.

So first of all I want to put in more pipes to carry all sorts of fuels and stuff around. I was thinking of putting in a solar panel too but that seems too slick (and sensible) for a half-mad hippy. So then while I was thinking of alternative energy sources I thought of a small windmill but in a vacuum that might be pushing things a bit far. But despite the vacuum I couldn't resist the idea of a wind chime. No self-respecting hippy would be without one.

I'd love to know if you think I'm forgetting something. I'm still kind of tempted by an earlier suggestion of hanging a Volkswagen badge off the front

- Mark

Gunilla
07-23-2007, 06:15 AM
Can't wait to see all that fun details evolving - I adore the wind chime!
I think it should have a name - and it should be painted somewhere on the side.
"Space Explorer" "WayOuter" "Bogart" or something... I'm sure you already thought of something.

bluemattersoda
07-23-2007, 06:50 AM
don't forget all the political and environmental stickers!!

SteevieWoo
07-23-2007, 06:59 AM
Hey what a mess of a spaceship! if i had one it would be just like that for sure!

MMM.... i see he has a little space available on his wooden platform so, what if instead of a dead plant he keeps a little patch of cannabis (for medicinal purposes of course) just little detail, nothing too noticeable. Well i guess nobody wants others to notice a garden like that.....
Great work by the way!!!:thumbsup:

icedeyes
07-23-2007, 08:16 AM
Hey Mark... this is looking really really great... I love all of the small elements you are going to add...

two small remarks... the rainbow looks a little jagged now in places (little sharp angles here and there).... also, the colors for the back look good but maybe a little colorless compared to the rest of the ship... Maybe you should add a bit of a burn to the engines caused by the heat...

Have fun,
George

nwiz25
07-23-2007, 08:25 AM
me too waiting for all the details to sprout bro! :p :love: i most certainly agree with Gunilla! me really curious as what name u gonna bless ur ship with! :love:

awesome! :applause: