Escape-WIP

[CTBunny]

Wow! How did you create your concept? I really like it! It's so simple yet complex at the same time...

Anywayz, you have some really nice reference pictures! Angles are prefect and everything. I've only done one Matte painting before and I gotta tell you you'll find it much easier on yourself if you have the right reference photos. My advice is just start pieceing it together and then go from there. One you have it pieced together more ideas might spark or you might decide you want a different angle or something. I had changed my compostion at least 3 or 4 times before I found the angle I liked.

So just start playing with your reference pictures :)

[Rockhoppermedia]

Very dynamic, love the angle looking up, i didnt realise that the forground figure was a statue however.


Look forward to seeing where you go with this.

Rich

[Thaldir]

Thank you, both of you. for making a newbie feel welcome!

The concept was born from the first reference photo, taken a few days ago while visiting a castle, I really wanted to do something with it, and so, thinking, looking at other photos, browsing Digital Matte Painting and brainstorming with the wife the scene started to emerge...

Not sure if the statue will remain a statue, change material or change totally, we'll see...

Meanwhile, I'll start playing with the ref, indeed, and see what happens ;)

Hope you'll come visit again.

P.S. Sorry for the delay in answering, but having a full-time job I usually post in forums in the evening.

[Thaldir]

And here comes the composed reference


http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o277/Thaldir/EscapeWip1.jpg

[Ivy00]

hey this is cool as heck thaldir :) glad to see you trying a matte though you should have entered the NHM challenge I think :)

[JJASSO]

Hey Tiziano , Welcome ! well the idea is definitly a nice concept, let's see now how you handle lighting , mood and material effects , the layout is finished I think
I will be looking forward ...

[kanikasehgal]

nice start..shall be waiting for the final composition.

[Thaldir]

@ Ivy00: thanks! I definitely will enter the next one (unless it overlaps a CG Challenge, I'm not up to tackling twoat the same time).

@ jamesvfx: thank you so much! I'm glad you think the idea has merit. :)
Please, feel free to point out any mistakes you may notice at any time.

@ kanikasehgal: thank you! Tonight I'm sketching for 'Strange Behaviour' but as soon as that sketch is posted I'll concentrate on this matte until it's finished.

[CyborgJA]

Mmmm... I think you have to ask to ARNOCOB but I think the perspective is a little bit of and this cuts the beauty of the concept.

I love the palette that goes from warms to colds. Bravo !

[Thaldir]

Thank you for the suggestion, Serena! I'll be sure to ask him. :)

[Thaldir]

Serena, I'm in your debt :love:

I checked the perspective, and the right-hand building was waaay off, I must have been really blind (or cross-eyed) when I put the ref together...

Now I corrected the problem (hopefully) and started the 'real' work on the piece. Opinions?

http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o277/Thaldir/EscapeWip2.jpg

[nickmarshallvfx]

I love the new building design. The cold and warm colours in the logo really work for me. My only problem in this at the mo is the lighting. It looks as though your light source is the bright spot in the sky, but covered with cloud. If that is the case then shadows would become very diffuse, and the shadows that are cast would be cast straight down the front of the left building from the extrusion at the top, not at the angle yours currently is.

I look forward to seeing your progress. I hope you understood what I was trying to say there :)

Nick

[Thaldir]

You're perfectly right, Nick (and perfectly clear :) ), but I haven't touched the left building yet, lights and shadows will definitely change there. :)

Thank you for your nice words, I hope to 'see' you here again.:thumbsup:

[nickmarshallvfx]

Cool, well i look forward to seeing hwo it looks when you take care of it all, its coming along nicely, and I like the angle of the shot :)

Nick

[Thaldir]

Thanks a lot, Nick!

Here comes the next step (this being my first matte, I'm going to post step-by-step, hope nobody grows bored...), the shadows look right to me, now, am I missing something?

Next will be the conduits, then the statue and the 2 figures.



http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o277/Thaldir/EscapeWip3.jpg

[CyborgJA]

I'm starting to see the atmosphere you got in your mind.
I think I've to wait the next step to give you usable suggestions.

Serena.

[Thaldir]

Thank you, Serena! You're a great help. :)


Tonight it was the conduits' turn, here it is:


http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o277/Thaldir/EscapeWip4.jpg

[Thaldir]

Statue is done, and I've begun working on the figures, if all goes well, tumorrow could be the final upload.

http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o277/Thaldir/EscapeWip5.jpg

[Thaldir]

And here comes (to your relief, I suppose) the final image.

Perspective of the conduits has been adjusted and the figures have been modified (I wasn't happy with the first headgear).

Anything I'm missing?

http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o277/Thaldir/EscapeWipFinal.jpg

[Inlakechh]

The perspective in the lower left corner is looking strange to me now. I think you can lower the darks on the characters to integrate them more into the image.
Else than that it's coming along really nicely.

[Thaldir]

Thank you!
In truth I had some doubts about perspective there, does it look better to you in the version immediately above?

In the last one I corrected the perspective because it was 'technically' off, then I started wondering if that was a case of 'drawn right/looking wrong', and they looked actually better in the previous version.

I've saved the other one too, so if that's better I've no trouble going back.

As for the characters, will do!

[Inlakechh]

yeah the previous version looks better. It was a technically correct move to change the lines this way. Now looking at it a second time, I see that the lines going vertically aren't lining up very well. I think thats the main problem making this version look like being more off perspective than the prvious one.

[Thaldir]

Here we are, I checked the perspective again and corrected the vertical lines that were off (hopefully I got them all), I also touched up the characters, but a doubt came up (fault of my poor English, I think).

By 'lowering the darks' you meant making them darker (as I understood first) or making them *less* dark bringing the whole figure nearer to the color of the sky?

Thank you for your help and patience!


http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o277/Thaldir/EscapeWipFinalRevised.jpg

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