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GodfatherUr
03-19-2003, 11:11 AM
Hey all, got a quick question.

I am looking into purchasing some good plugs for hair/fur here at work and am not sure as to which one is the best to go with. The only package that I have used thus far is shag hair and was wondering if anyone knew of a better package or one comparable to that?

Thank you all in advance:)
BRVR
03-19-2003, 11:18 AM
I think shag hair is good.
TimWoods
03-19-2003, 11:42 AM
i have a feeling shag hair is the only one. i would like to know if there is something better tho! apparently there is something from sputterfish coming out. cant remember what its called tho.
:surprised
GodfatherUr
03-19-2003, 12:42 PM
Thanks all for the input thus far. Anyone else? :D
sireel
03-19-2003, 02:15 PM
well if you want free you can always go with peter watjes hair plugin
Shave and a haircut is due out soon.
pluMmet
03-19-2003, 02:16 PM
it's not from splutterfish and it's 'Shave and a Haircut'.... splutterfish is just testing it for Joe Alter. The max version was programed by the 'Absolute Character Tools' people.


And BTW Shave and a Haircut is much better then Shag. That's comming from me who owns Shag:Hair.
Oktavian
03-19-2003, 02:45 PM
If there will be "'Shave and a Haircut" for Max than go for that, because (like pluMmet said) it's better than Shag-Hair.
But hey, Shag isn't really bad.
GodfatherUr
03-19-2003, 03:24 PM
Thanks all for the input. Does anyone happen to have a link to the shave and a haircut website so that I may look into it?

thanks again
drewbie
03-19-2003, 06:02 PM
Originally posted by pluMmet
it's not from splutterfish and it's 'Shave and a Haircut'.... splutterfish is just testing it for Joe Alter. The max version was programed by the 'Absolute Character Tools' people.

Actually, SplutterFish contracted out the initial work to the Snoswell Design folks, and now SplutterFish is doing a lot of work on Shave in-house. So I wouldn't say SplutterFish isn't working on it at all.
drewbie
03-19-2003, 06:03 PM
The link to the Shave stuff should be on Joe Alter's site...

http://www.joealter.com
gnarlycranium
03-20-2003, 05:37 AM
It seems like the fact that Shag hair doesn't cast shadows would be a big problem....
TimWoods
03-20-2003, 12:40 PM
yup, it also doesnt effect global ilumination. Which is not very helpful. Looking forward to shave and haircut comming out. Shag hair is very awkward to use.:annoyed:
:thumbsup:
joconnell
03-20-2003, 01:33 PM
Both shag and shave can make a mesh at render time to allow use with GI but you've gotta make sure you can handle the extra load on render times - Ruairi robinson used shag to output a mesh for 50% grey...

It'll be worth waiting the extra couple of months for shave to arrive to make a proper comparison - it's shaping up very nicely so far.

And shag hair does cast shadows - theres a special shadow type to do this.
TimWoods
03-20-2003, 01:38 PM
thats an awful big mesh tho! and you lose the dynamics, not that it works very well anyway.
Seems maya and soft get it all intergrated, max needs to keep up.
:wavey:
lostanimator
03-20-2003, 03:35 PM
hey!! for now shag hair is the only plugin for creating volumetric hair in max..well its good for short hair like fur...gets difficult for long hair...besides it does'nt have thickness and length weight map support..and a poor dynamics engine...which doesn't work with wind and gravity..but good for simple collision..
SO just wait for SHAVE & a Haircut (its been on news for so long)
its available for Maya...hope the max version will be good too!!!
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