sci-fi/fantasy jet plane

[seed]

Wow! A lot of details! I like that :) Waiting for more...:drool:

[ckpew99]

Looking pretty sweet! Keep posting the updates, I want to see what the rest is going to look like.

[OggieBoogie]

nice forms swirley....been waiting for u to start showcasing. Keep em coming!

Cheers!

[qu2k]

:applause:

[Stimpy]

good stuff.. will keep an eye out for this one.

one tiny thing maybe: your whole design is rather round and cury right now, but then you have this "connector ring" or whatever you wanna call it in the shape of an octagon.

but otherwise i´ll shut up and just watch it progress.

[Izu]

Well stimpy....hehe..i´m going to have something over that so i didn´t feel the need to have any high detailed thing under...but good eyes ;) :applause:

[ocnod]

Badass start man! :bounce:
Keep it up :þ

[Syrogen]

keep it up keep it up! :thumbsup:

[Threedeemer]

Thats looking great so far. Nice attention to detail. I'm waiting to see how this develops. :thumbsup:

[Izu]

http://www.splicedigital.com/spacefx/1/testrender12.jpg

[podoba]

plane engine is quite detailed i like it .. so go on and make on it full time :airguitar

[JasonA]

looking very cool! that turbine is very unusual looking, I wonder what the rest of the plane is going to look like. look forward to more!

[Izu]

http://www.splicedigital.com/spacefx/1/testrender142.jpg

damn today was a slow day for modelin..jus sat n watched anime and played games most of the day..didn?t really get to much work done...not on this ether...
but a managed to get a lil update anyways... :D

[Izu]

http://www.splicedigital.com/spacefx/1/testrender16.jpg

and

http://www.splicedigital.com/spacefx/1/testrender17.jpg

almost done with one of the engins now..jus gotta ad the damn details :p

well...hmm...ye..

maye edit some parts...

[Milho]

It's getting niiiccce. What a design do you have in mind for the whole plane-thing-stuff.

Got sketches or sth. or modeling from scratch?

:wip:

[Snej]

NICE!!!!!

My only comment is I want to see more!
Wicked cool design.

Kudos :xtreme:

[TCP]

Very interesting - very cool :cool: . I have to side with those who wonder what the rest will look like!

[Sam0s]

:buttrock:

fint swirly!

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[BlackWolf]

Thats some cool stuff,
do you think you could make a quick tut for us beginners?

[Gremlin]

thats lookin' ****in' awesome!!
texture that bad boy and add some engine effects... frontpage material if you animate it too! :D Good work!

Cheers!
:beer:

[Izu]

Well...i´m modeling everything of the top of my head...cuz....i jus suck at drawing :shrug: ..

i´ll do a short tut on how to start..it´s nothing special at all but i´ll help u get started and I am planing to animate it...i have it all up in this head of mine..hehe...and it´s looking awsome i have to say..to bad u can´t probe my brain somehow..just to take a peek..oh..but if u can..stay away from the area that say X^3...that´s for adults only :drool: :drool:

well..back to detailing the sucker..

[Evolved1]

swirly is the man.. i dont know where he pulls these ideas from but you gotta let us know dude..


Keep It real..

:beer:

[gtidhar]

A very unique and interesting peace. I like it!:beer:

[Izu]

http://www.splicedigital.com/spacefx/1/screenshoot1.jpg

[GrantMan]

Very cool! You have a great attention to detail. I'm a detail freak as well and love to have images where even the tiniest of details have been created. It really helps to create a realistic feel for it. Looking forward to seeing more including a textured version of the engine.

-The Art Guru

:thumbsup:

[Izu]

MMMM..back from the weekend..and back to modeling this...just started on the right INNER wing...the wing that connects the engin to the body..maybe now u ppl see more of what i?m going for....
http://www.splicedigital.com/spacefx/1/testrender19.jpg

http://www.splicedigital.com/spacefx/1/testrender21.jpg

[strick9]

Wow that, looks really cool! Even more impressive that your're not working odff a concept sketch :eek:

[Neural Riptide]

Wow.
Very well done. I love the details ont he engine. :)
Can't wait to see more. :)

[seed]

I think this engine really works :)

[S_3D_A]

very wicked:)

[Teckniel]

Bery nice modling work you got there gonne follow this tread with open eye'

ceep on gowing m8 looking very nice

[Izu]

lil update

http://www.splicedigital.com/spacefx/1/testrender22.jpg

[Izu]

blah...slow going.....

http://www.splicedigital.com/spacefx/1/testrender23.jpg
http://www.splicedigital.com/spacefx/1/testrender24.jpg

well...inner wing almost done....still got small details to add...but i?ll add em later...

[podoba]

go on... looks better

[Teckniel]

it starts better and better every time i see it ceep it up mate!!!

[Izu]

ok i?m oficially stuck....the damn outer wing looks weird as hell...this is the second version of it too..the first one looked weird aswell....

http://www.splicedigital.com/spacefx/1/testrender27.jpg
http://www.splicedigital.com/spacefx/1/testrender28.jpg


it?s the shape of the wing i?m not happy with..the details n stuff will be added later...
damn it...someone...inspire me..NOW!! :D

[ceql]

Hmm all the components look great so far! ;)

It's probably already been asked, but are you using Nurbs or SubDivs, btw? :)

[Waters]

Great modeling, your skills and creativity leave me quite jealous. How about some info. to go with these shots. What are you using? I like your lighting setup, GI? Polygon? Sub-d?

[Izu]

well actually...the first thing i say is what i use n so on....

I´m using sub-d and regular poly modeling for this...poly modeling for most of the details...and sub-d for the rest..

[BladeFX]

Very cool! :thumbsup:

Waiting to see more

[Neural Riptide]

Originally posted by swirly-chicken
it´s the shape of the wing i´m not happy with..the details n stuff will be added later...
damn it...someone...inspire me..NOW!! :D

Hit SHEAR and move the outside of the thing forward or backward, then (or before that) increase the overall depth (front to back) of the wing where it attaches to the engine. The wing looks to frail right now to provide any lift to the ship.

Hope that inspires. :)

[LordDubu]

I'm receiving a psychic message...

wait for it...

I see a future front-page thread... yes... it's a futuristic plane... trust me... I'm right.

[raz-0]

Ok, well I second that they look a bit spinply to support those engines. You might want to try making them widerd front to back like previously suggested. They also have no control surfaces, which is odd for a wing.

However, they have that kind of cool, but completely devoid of any concern for physics anime craft kind of look to them.

So combining the lack of control surfaces with your not yet attached wing segments, and the futuristic thing. I was thinking you might leave the outter wing segmented in two parts with some articulated bits in between. So that the the wing could change overall geometry as it flies.

Of course in the real world where they are trying similar ideas, the wing would still be one smooth surface. But hey it gets back to the base physics agnostic high-tech sorta anime feel to it. Without animation however, it might not come across.

hope it gets the ideas flowing.

[tomb]

:drool: That's looking delicious. The detail is quite amazing.

[Izu]

Well raz-O...i agree..but...u see the segment ..the thin outer most part...that was actually ment to be movable, up/down....
I just never got around to making the mechanical part that moves it..since i never was happy with the overall design of it..


But i started on another design for the hole outer wing, this might be it..but we´ll see..i´ll post what i have so far soon...

This version is shorter...stubbyer..and more airodynamic..but it also has some fat ass thingy on the end of it that has 2 smaller wings(pointing up/down), on it and it´s formed out of the hull on the enginside...so it kinda flows over...might look coo...u´ll see what i mean soon enough...

[rikimountain]

great stuff... have you got any sketches or is it all in your head?? (or fingers)... :buttrock:

[.overflowed]

Very good work. :thumbsup:
I lke shape of wings but they are quite small for such big engines. It may give lesss plane more rocket impression.

[Izu]

Like i said before rikimountain -"it?s all in my head"...

here?s yet another version of the wings...This one?s better then the others..(still not finished, no details), and i was thinking of maybe adding 2 short thinner wings on the end of them..on that fat thing at the end...should I ?

http://www.splicedigital.com/spacefx/1/testrender29.jpg
http://www.splicedigital.com/spacefx/1/testrender30.jpg

[Maximus Groff]

MAN! this is like 'Revel' all over again!

You are insane.... i hope someday get a 10th of this at mech modeling... Very Final fantasy!

Keep on!

[Izu]

ok this is the final render for this week....fire it up again on monday...think the wings are starting to look "OK" now..started adding details...

http://www.splicedigital.com/spacefx/1/testrender31.jpg

[Izu]

OK..one more pic..for the road.....jus' a lil close up....oh..by the way..as u can see i like to render test pix... hehe... :rolleyes: :p

http://www.splicedigital.com/spacefx/1/testrender32.jpg

anyway..like always..nothings really finished...thinking of adding some kind of gun at the tips..mini, rail, gatelin'...we?ll see

[LordPhobos]

Ok, first, this is just beautiful. I made a ship model not long ago with engines similar to yours, but mine looks like toilet paper compared to yours. So between being amazed, I secretly hate you. :P (just kidding)

As for the wings. Since you're still not 100% happy with them, or at least you don't seem to be, here's what I would suggest. Right now you have that tiny tip of the wing facing down and in, but I think it needs to face up and out, but at the exact opposite angle. Example:

Yours now:

-------
\


My idea:

\
-------


That's a really bad idea of what I mean, but here's another way of looking at it. If you were to take the wing tip and flip it exactly 180 degrees so that it's now facing up and out, that is the angle I see it at (in my head). That, to me, would just kind of make it look like a glider, or at least that the wings really can carry the plane.

That's just me. Just passing along my delusions. :)

[Izu]

hehe...well i actualy thought about that exact thing...or rather..i was thinking of adding another pair of wings like (your idea)...

maybe shorter...maybe longer....but the wing tips that now faces down was meant to be used for stabilization and stearing...since this would be a kind of a intra planitary vessel..maybe police or something else...it wouldn´t need to big of a wings and wing movements to stear it and i was thinking that it would operate at a verry high altitude so the twin jet engins are used for 2 things....

1: low altitude....maximum thrustors...+ gathering energy and storing that energy to be used for..

2: high altitude flight..getting places..FAST..that´s why i have the big ass exhaust part...maximum thrust from the stored up energy

I was also thinking of adding the Harrier capabillity..hovering..that way it won´t need a runway, just a launchpad...

well..that´s my vision...

[Thelios]

:thumbsup:

[BlackWolf]

for the hover idea how about tilting the whole wing
with youre level of modelling that would be some cool as dynamics so far thats brilliant, looks like it bel=ongs connected to a bomber type ship though (twin engines)

[grossemann]

Looking nice!!!!!
:)
Play nice with the dice!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Izu]

Originally posted by BlackWolf
for the hover idea how about tilting the whole wing
with youre level of modelling that would be some cool as dynamics so far thats brilliant, looks like it bel=ongs connected to a bomber type ship though (twin engines)



Tilting it ?...what exactly do u mean ?

[gnarlycranium]

I think you're ALL right! Leave that downward-pointy thing on, and give it some longer, more wingtip-like things that stick out beyond it and UP a little.

And man, is that thing ever looking cool-- are you really just deciding what it looks like piece by piece, or do you have a sense of what the main body is going to be already?

[Izu]

hehe...yeah..actualy...i am...but i have a lil idea on what SOME parts of the main body will look like...got a lil inspired by the mini ships in that big ass hanger in the "StarTrek Nemesis" movie..or rather a lil part of that ship that looked coo...

i´m planing a short video tut on how to make both detail and hull....

Interested ?

or should i jus make a regular one with pix and text ?

(satan will cum on 12 sheep before i ever speak in one of my vid tuts...i leave that to others... ):surprised :surprised

[erik2003]

:surprised :eek: man this rules! Can't wait to tsee the ship's body!

[gnarlycranium]

Well, I wouldn't want to speculate too much on what Satan does or doesn't do to sheep, but....

Heck yes!! Give us video tut!! :bounce:

[LordPhobos]

A video tut would be excellent, but bandwidth gets sucked up fast when you have a 30 minute or even 10 minute video. Lots of people will be downloading it, so expect a server load. :)

[BlackWolf]

tilting wings...
like the whole wing swivels up including the engines so that the intakes point upwards, maybe the image will help. (blue line thrust, orange line direction (the second blue line on the 2nd pic is something i realised it might need for balance)

Oh, and i love the vid tut idea :applause: :applause: :applause:

[Izu]

ahaaa i see...hehe..tilting the hole thing is a no no...hehe..i was thinking of the Harrier idea itself..just some vector trhustors underneath....but thnx for the suggestion the idea about the balance is good..i´m going with that one.....



and about the vid tut...i said short...10 min is a damn long vid...hehe..prolly do a 5 min or something...just the basics..(if i don´t do the tuts in parts..then i might do a longer one)...and bandwith is no problem..

I will do the vid and send it to ma' buds at http://www.3d-palace.com they´ll host it for me....

[Gremlin]

this is sooo siiick, cant wait to see some animations. Every time you update my draw hits the floor! SOO GOOD!!
If you did a Video tutorial...it would r0x my pants!
Salud!
:beer:

[Izu]

:wavey: hehe funny lil gremlin:scream: :drool:

anyone wanna sponsor me for college ?
hehe..i need another 50k usd..so if anyone wanna give me a job...cuz my current contract runs out in like a month...awell...back to watching Cobra on tv....man stalone is mean...throwing granades at the poor bikers... :bounce: :bounce:

[Teckniel]

anyone wanna sponsor me for college ?

If you want a job not a hard 1 contact me prive or mail me to teckniel@hotmail.com

and i tell you everything you have todo for me and you earn $$$

[Izu]

LOL.....damn..that sounds suspicious.....jus wanted to tell u that i´m not into that hole gay scene...so i won´t take any pictures of my naked body....

[Teckniel]

LOL.....damn..that sounds suspicious.....jus wanted to tell u that i´m not into that hole gay scene...so i won´t take any pictures of my naked body....

hehe hmmm you just give me a idee

my fantasy is working now on you hehe lol

just joking

i think my girlfrind would read this she would kill me for that langue hehe



just pm you back

hope to see more on the plane :-) and hope you accept my offer :deal: :deal: :deal:
i would pay anything to you cause you such a great fu*king artist!!!

ps if you need hosting for a webpage contact me also
and its without adds and so :-) (duhh) hehe



:wavey: :shrug:

[Izu]

hahaha...thnx for the webspace offer....but i got like 3 close buds who´s offered me the same thing...and like i said to them....

-"it´s ok dude, i got free webhosting..as much webspace as i want on a real fast server" :p

regarding the other stuff....read ya pm...

[ocnod]

Lookin badass man! :buttrock:

[ARSA]

:airguitar

hi ... nice work, well done i love it ....

can somebody tell me what combination of lights he use for that nice render... i mean i DONT want somebody to tell me exactly every single light used in the composition, but at least how to reach a close look... I still have doubts about global ilumination... do the creator of this image use it ?

[Izu]

it?s simple default GI..just started on the cocpit/escape pod...here?s a testrender of the beginning...
I decided to go with the railgun idea...here?s a testrender of the start of that one too...

http://www.splicedigital.com/spacefx/1/testrender35.jpg
http://www.splicedigital.com/spacefx/1/testrender33.jpg

[Caman0]

dude that is some serious ownage!!

w00t!

[Izu]

ok here u see the start of the main body....

what u see is the cocpit/emergency escape pod...all in one...it fits right in to the main body...

http://www.splicedigital.com/spacefx/1/testrender36.jpg

[Hellwolve]

Does that cockpit get any bigger? I mean, I hope so, or else it would be really huge engines or really small cockpit :surprised

[Vash T Stampede]

me likey;)

[Izu]

heheh..that´s just the cocpit/escape pod....that things gonna fit into the flight body itself..and that´s gonna be much bigger

[Hellwolve]

Originally posted by swirly-chicken
heheh..that´s just the cocpit/escape pod....that things gonna fit into the flight body itself..and that´s gonna be much bigger

:thumbsup:


Almost thought you were going for some sort of pod racer ;)

[Izu]

Pod racer.......eeeeeeeeeeewwwww:shame:

[Hellwolve]

Originally posted by swirly-chicken
Pod racer.......eeeeeeeeeeewwwww:shame:

Sorry :shrug:


Just messing with yer mind :p

Any updates?

[liquidhalf]

lookin sweet swirly.

[Izu]

http://www.splicedigital.com/spacefx/1/testrender37.jpg


ooOOOoooOOoooOOOooo:eek: :scream:

[Stimpy]

if you dont mind me saying, it has a VERY NICE old-skool konami arcade feeling to it....

if anyone knows what i mean.. :D

cockpit could be a lot wider in my opinion but since you know what you are doing i wont mention it.



[ w00t. post 666 >:D ]

[Izu]

haha...stimpy stimpy stimpy..what am i gonna do with u...hmmm :beer:

i´m actualy thinking of resizeing the hole cocpit...:thumbsup: just thinking thou...

[gnarlycranium]

.........the damn thing even has RIVETS. You're a crazy man! :surprised

[Teckniel]

Wow looking very nice hope to see more

Ps: Read Prive Hope you accept the job ;)

[Sceme]

i feel very inspired by that image...u guys think it's wrong to feel that i would also like to do something like that now?:shrug:

ofcourse, not the same one:scream:and also less details ofcourse :cool:


aah...can't say nothing bad about thit image :drool::drool:

[mohh]

That's some seriously awesome modeling, more so because it's all coming right from your head!:thumbsup:

[FCBS]

Love the design and detail - hope you're going to texture and animate it :)

[Izu]

here´s a short clip so u get a better idea of the model..stills don´t usualy do that...not for me anyways....i jus got to work and i dreamt up a really coo idea for the wings on the little cocpit/espace pod...u´ll see..but for now...enjoy..

http://daax.splicewarestudios.com/spacefx/1/ani1.MOV

btw...ignore the crap at the end...had to compress the clip using quicktime..cuz i rendered in uncompressed....

[BladeFX]

Animation has a pretty cool angle.
Just a bit to short. Just wanted to see the details on the other wing :)

[Snej]

I think that the wings look great and I love the look of it so far freakin awsom.:drool:

[Maximus Groff]

Freaky amazing!
IMPRESSIVE!

can i be your friend ? hehe...

[DigitalCrystal]

Very nice.:thumbsup:

[Izu]

the cocpit/escape pod

http://www.splicedigital.com/spacefx/1/testrender40.jpg

[gimmix]

oh my god I want more of this more more MOOOOOOREEEEEEE
:drool: :drool: :drool: :eek: :eek:
man you are my god
:bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown:

[Izu]

wings damn it..WINGS I SAY!!:bounce: http://www.splicedigital.com/spacefx/1/testrender42.jpg

[ninjacore]

****!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


you modelling genius you, have a smack on the chin for being so hot <smack>

Lovin this thread. there was a mention of a tutorial somewhere. go for text and pics, it will do me.

now carry on.......:buttrock:

[Stimpy]

make the cockpit wider dammit...

looks like a toe right now... [insults always work]

[akela]

swirly-chicken: I really like how your WIP is developing, and just out of your mind! :bounce:
But what I should point for now is that the little wings at the ends of the main wings (I don't remember if they have a technical name -- ailerons??) looks a little weak. I'm just trying to imagine this plane flying at full throttle... they eventually could blow away! ... or, what happens when the plane is landing? What if that little wings are upside oriented and more thick?

I like very much the cockpit/scape pod, and agree that will fit perfectly in a more massive main body :thumbsup:

[Izu]

haha..insult...u´r a funny guy stimpy :scream: :p :rolleyes:
...
Ok let me say this once again....this is a sci-fi/fantasy airplane....ANYTHING goes.
...:arteest: :arteest:
:D so it won´t tair away at full throttle..and even if it was surposed to be real...it could have been made by some strong composit material...so it would hold..
When it lands...they'll fold up ;)

well i believe it´s dinner time...l8rz..

[LordDubu]

I like the tiny-cockpit/escape capsule, that's kind of cool, in the contrast to those HUGE engines... can't wait to see the fuselodge... your design reminds me of FF:Spirits Within a tad.

[Dustpuppy]

The move dosent work for me :annoyed:
it says the required compressor could not be found.

[Izu]

Update quicktime maybe ?

http://www.splicedigital.com/spacefx/1/cocpitanim1..avi

this isn?t finished yet...jus details left...but this is it for now...

http://www.splicedigital.com/spacefx/1/testrender43.jpg

starting on the main fuselodge...now..

Ps: didn?t really turn out as coo as i thought..but anywas.. :p

[BladeFX]

Your avi is deformed.

[Izu]

Originally posted by BladeFX
Your avi is deformed.



how so ?

[BladeFX]

I have 2,5 stretched cockpits that flap their wings out.
The action is a guess.

Edit:
Ok, this only happens with Divx players.
Sorry :p

[Izu]

haha...only thing that sux when it comes to the vid is the compression...should have done it like i did the first..even thought i got that crappy commersial at the end.. hehe:wip:

[Teckniel]

its looking better and better every time i see a update

[rip|15]

i dont wanna know what's the poly count..:annoyed:
amazing model! realy!
:drool:

[Izu]

the polycount is so far only 265422 polys ..this is without ANY optimizing at all

i desided not to give a crap about what the polycount would be at the end..this is in fact the first time i?ve even checked it..

main body start..

http://www.splicedigital.com/spacefx/1/testrender44.jpg

[mohh]

Looking awesome!

I can't wait for the final piece.:buttrock:

[BiTMAP]

this will be one of hte best models i've seen, its got so much detail you can use it for anything (if ur willing to wait for rendertimes, which really You should be).

[Sceme]

ok ,ok...this is kinda, i'm...that....wow...:)....ahihihii..just can't say anything......u have lot of skills !!!.....hmm...if u don't keep tracking your polucount, i'm just wondering, what kinda machine do u have there....does your modeling working smoothly? :drool:

[M_Orlich]

maybe open up the chassis a tiny bit to show off your incredible detail work inside.

m

[Izu]

i´m planing an open part behind the cocpit area...where u see nothign atm....and when the cocpit/escapepod shoots away...u´ll see a damn lot of details...

work flow is really smoothe..for puter specs check the first post in this thread...oh and btw..i went back to 7.5 final...damn beta had a million bugs and screwed up my workflow..couldn´t handle most plgs i use...

[podoba]

good work.. how long have you working on it ?

[urgaffel]

The cockpit has an overbite... he he...

Looking mighty nice the chicken. I like how you did the wing folding. It will be interesting to see what kind of body you do for this monster :)

[Maximus Groff]

Hey! whats the suspense ? plz give us update!

This thread is rocking good.. ;)

[Izu]

trying out diff designs on the front end of the hull...

http://www.splicedigital.com/spacefx/1/front1.jpg http://www.splicedigital.com/spacefx/1/front2.jpg

hmmm..BAH!!:annoyed:

[Hellwolve]

Although you didn't ask, I'm going to vote anyway:

continue with the second design :)

[Mr Stressbunny]

Originally posted by swirly-chicken
i´m planing an open part behind the cocpit area...where u see nothign atm....and when the cocpit/escapepod shoots away...u´ll see a damn lot of details...

work flow is really smoothe..for puter specs check the first post in this thread...oh and btw..i went back to 7.5 final...damn beta had a million bugs and screwed up my workflow..couldn´t handle most plgs i use...

Yeah, that 7.5b update has been crap so far, many of my useful plugs just don't work no more. :thumbsdow

would be interesting to see how you animate those wires under the hood. Wat a kick-ass model you've got. :applause:

[DigitalCrystal]

Hey hey,

Yeah, even though you haven't asked, I like the second design a lot also. But I guess you really got to think about what this craft is going to be used for. Cargo? Fighter? Bomber? Passenger? Privately owned personal entertainment subspace craft? Taxi? Charter bus? "tug boat"?

Just some ideas to think about. If you really have something in mind as to what you think it should be then you'll beable to see what you want to go with. For instance, with a cargo ship, the hull is going to really ballooned, if it's a bomber the hull is going to be sturdy but streamline, if it's a fighter, even more stream line with a small hull. The nose is just as important. Usually a large blunt nose is associated with a cargo/passenger/freighter/heavy bomber and a smaller more pointed nose is usally associated with a faster moving, more agile craft. You may even want to think about adding a 5th, larger engine built into the hull of the craft. Or you may want to think about how someone would board the craft, that could also help you decide one how you want to create the hull. You may also want to consider how it'll be powered, how it will maneuver, how it will refuel, how it will dock with other ships/if it will dock with others... and so on and so forth. Just a whole bunch of ideas to get you thinking.

Or you don't have to listen to me at all. :thumbsup: Great work! :applause:

[Maximus Groff]

yeah... 2nd design rocks!

[cosmonaut]

:thumbsup:
Very nice looking model...

[Troub]

way cool

[Daveaustin]

damm man..! gotta go with the 2nd one! [not trashin the other one mind]

how many hours you notched up on this so far? lookin sweet :D

[urgaffel]

I like the first one more, because it has a sleeker look, faster, slightly more dangerous. The problem with it is that the front of the body would be almost ridiculously large compared to the cockpit :) But I still think it looks cooler

The second works better together with the rest of the craft, but it hasn't the same deadly appeal that the first version has...

Gah I don't know. I'm sure you'll do whatever will look best ;)

[DigitalCrystal]

24 hours later and no update?! What's going on!?!;)

Hope to see something soon swirly.:thumbsup:

[Stimpy]

i think they let him out of his cage on weekends...

;)

[Izu]

hehe..this is how it is....i was gonna do some work on it today..but..i went to the stockholm car show with some friends instaid...walked around for like 6½ hours n looked at cars..saw some sweet ass concept cars...anyways...

my computer at home sux...so i can only to some small modeling here...that means i do most of my modeling at work...and since i went to the car show instaid of work and modeling on the ship.....well....no update till monday ;)

trying to come up with a better design for the front..thinking and trying to scetch something now....we´ll see..

:wavey:

[phoenix2k]

wowowwow.... loved watching that wip develope!!! absolutely stunning! :eek:

[imageriot]

whaaaaaaaaaa!!

I need an update :bounce:

[BlackWolf]

is this neccesarily going to be aerodynamic? If its supposed to be able to fly i suppose engines half as big as the rest of the body could fix that though :rolleyes:
Dont let this thread die! i need to see that ship finished!

[Izu]

haha...i´m back rom the weekend and can get crackin on it again..had some time to reflect on what to do...

It´s not surposed to be MEGA HYPER aerodynamic....but a lil.. :surprised

looked through some stuff to find diff designs on ships this weekend..and i´m gonna try out some more designs...

[DigitalCrystal]

So where are the updates?! :)

Do you know what the 'role' this aircraft will have? If you do, I'm sure that'll show you what type of design you'll need. I remember seeing you talk about high altitude flight and low altitude flight and highspeed flight.

Swirly, I would love to see your modeling techniques for those engines and such.

[Izu]

the "role" of it...well i was thinking about that...i guess it would be like a..umm...i dunno...maybe something in the lines of a "Tomcat"...that means a defender....but it´s isn´t a millitary vessel...hmm..maybe police.....or maybe even an ambulace...and it uses the railgun to cut stuff open..like "the jawas of life" that the firemen use to cut open cars..anyways...i´m going to work REAL early tomorrow...getting a ride to the subwaystation tomorrow so i´m leaving at 7:15am...so i hope i´ll do some modeling on it then....

but we´re pretty swamped at work now..only 3 weeks left till the deadline...still got tons to light/texture and render..

ok..back to some movie with carmen electra... :P :drool: :beer:

[IMarshal]

Umm... not sure why but I don't see *any* of the pictures for this whole thread.

Anyone else have the same problem?

[DigitalCrystal]

Yeah, I can't see them now, must be a server problem..

[Izu]

yeah it´s the damn www server...sucker is down...i´ve sent an e-mail..can´t do much more then that atm..

[BlackWolf]

use attachments?

how did u use polymodelling for the engine covering
:naughty me asking questions b4 the tut is out::
im a real beginner but tutorials only tell u so much

[Izu]

I may have found my winner...another test of the front...:wip:

this one´s more streamline...and i think i´m gonna go with this one..jus gotta edit the part so it fits..i just moved up the lowest part of the front and deleted the middle part all together...

[Izu]

ok this deff. is the final version of the front...Mighte edit some parts of it..but it´s basicly the right shape..i think..

[DigitalCrystal]

Looks like winner to me!:thumbsup:

[shoey]

this is going to be one kick ass jet when its finished, shame we can't see the high res pics anymore.

Great work:thumbsup:

[Maximus Groff]

I like it!

Keep up!

[JabzX]

Dude,
I think I just found me a new idol :bowdown: :bowdown:
but umm... , maybe I missed it but what's, this great art piece gonna be used for (ie. professional movie, stand alone art, personal project, ect.)? And well.... I think I mighta missed this too but what program are you using?

You have achieved a skill that I can so far only dream of. :drool:

I'm digging the style! Keep it up!

[Maximus Groff]

plz update...

[Izu]

hehe....i´m taking a lil break...not a big one..i´ve got a deadline at work and i´m modeling another ship here...for an anim..and i´ve finished like 1/3 of it....we might go to the 3D festival down in kopenhagen(with work)..and if we go, this has to be finished by then..to show of in an anim....i´ll be working on my own ship at the same time..so i´m splitting the work effort between em...


JabzX this is personal...i´m use lightwave..


stay tuned...

[Teckniel]

do you sill accept the deal cause you say new ship for anime

hehe

i hope so??


i want high ress now its not that cool those small pictures ;)

[Izu]

anim. as in animation..not anime..and i´m doing it for the place i work at..and yes i´ll still make accept...

the ship i´m making at work is something that´s gonna be used in a shoot where it flys over a city and lands on a building..the cam will be place above it and fly along....

[Teckniel]

cool very cool

[Izu]

2 small updates

http://www.splicedigital.com/spacefx/1/testrender10003.jpg
http://www.splicedigital.com/spacefx/1/testrender10005.jpg

[JabzX]

Dag Mr. Idol, :bowdown: :bowdown:
Can't wait to see it with the texture(s). Later on down the rode, were you planning on making other tutorials? Oh, and are you gonna have other WIPs?

I need a get my skill up and my own style, I'm a probaly borrow your componet-like technique, if I can figure out how u do it:hmm:

Keep it up!:bounce: :bounce: :bounce:

[Izu]

http://www.splicedigital.com/spacefx/1/testrender49.jpg http://www.splicedigital.com/spacefx/1/testrender50.jpg

[Vash T Stampede]

Vash The Stampede says you must work faster! :airguitar
I can't wait to se the Finished version :beer:

[Wi_2]

the noselooks like the one from final fantasy

but man even if not so unique
really nice stuff
keep it up

[Izu]

nose ?....what final fantasy ?

1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 or the spirits within ?...got no idea what u´r talkin about...havn´t seen anything like my nose out there...and i got all the ff games except 11 and tactics..

[Maximus Groff]

Wow! excellent..

[Izu]

i?m not really happy with the way that the hull right behind the cocpit turned out...doesn?t really fit into the rest of the design...it?s too bulgy...need to smoothe it out more..

http://www.splicedigital.com/spacefx/1/testrender52.jpg

crits...suggestions on other parts ?

the holes on the middle are gonna be filled with mechanics..and another smaller set of engins that will be used for landing and take-off....like the harrier jump jet..

[LordDubu]

If you smooth out the fuselage behind the cockpit, but make the width where it attaches to the main body thinner than the width immediately behind the pilate, it will give it a nifty "cobra-hood" like shape from the top view...

[Maximus Groff]

fly by plz!
fly by plz!
fly by plz!

(they say 3 times is a charm!)

Heheh...

[DigitalCrystal]

How about a rear hatch? Trunk maybe? Perhaps behind the cockpit of the plane? Maybe for other passengers? Or if you want to go military, a gun turret? How about an airbrake? Central tail? Just something that'll eliminate the bareness of the large section of just up and down panels behind the 'cab'.. don't get me wrong though, I think it looks awesome :thumbsup:

[Izu]

i smoothened out the bulgy parts....the panels tha surround the cocpit are gonna explode off when the escape pod is launched....so i can´t do much right there...

tailwing is in the works...probably going dubble...

airbreaks is coo..but turret ?..naw..dun' think so...i jus' think turrats are lame....or rather i think they look lame...

fly by Maximus Groff, will come later on when the model is finished...

thnx all for the comments, really apreciate it.. :wavey:

[BiTMAP]

keep the top sorta flat but def smooth out those bulges.. I like this thing so mcuh! :D

[Izu]

short clip (http://daax.splicewarestudios.com/spacefx/1/ship2.mov)

[BlackWolf]

Pictures!
I cant see anything, is this because there arent any posted or just a server thing?
oh, and keep posting:p

[Stimpy]

must be a server thang. they show up nice and clear over here...

hey. that rhymes. :D

[Izu]

optimized as hell and details added oh and the tailwing...wasn?t sure if i wanted a tail wing at all...but i desided to try it out n' see what it looked like..here?s the result...

http://www.splicedigital.com/spacefx/1/testrender54.jpg

[shoey]

IMOH lose the tail wing, or at least alter the design, i really dont think that it suits the ship as it is. The rest of the ship is looking top-notch tho:thumbsup:

[Maximus Groff]

Hey... its ultra cool!!!!

but...

IMHO the weight on front is too big...
maybe a tall back its more balanced ??

I know its missing the props to vertical climbing... :)

[Izu]

yeah i think i´m gonna loose the tailwing all together...jus don´t like it in the design eather....

[thx1138]

Dude I think this design is by far one of the best I've seen in years. :thumbsup:

[HapZungLam]

Insane design. it is way nicer than those starwars or startrek.

[cosmonaut]

That is freakin cool, but you should definately drop the tailwing, looks kinda like an f-117's

[chi]

this is the first time im gonna reply to this thread....please dont get rid of the tailwings they rule :D and great job!!! keep up the good work

[Teckniel]

please remove a the tail wing it donst fit it in the design of to airplane

Regrads me

[BlackWolf]

I think the tailplane design works but maybe it needs some tweaking : pointing downwards or something. maybe make the front shorter or the back longer?

[Izu]

hehe...chi...if u like the tailwing so much u can have it..drop by the #cgtalk channel on irc and i´ll send it to ya...
i´m gonna delete the sucker if no one wants it...(selling of parts of the ship it seams like..j/k hahah)

anyways...i´m not entiraly sure what i´m gonna do with the back part...

centrilizing the body in ref to the wings won´t be something i´ll do...cuz..the hole point is NOT to have so much at the back...i want a design that´s more...umm...me i guess...

[Izu]

ok the tailwings are gone...and i aded some details...
http://www.splicedigital.com/spacefx/1/testrender56.jpg

[Vash T Stampede]

Gobsmacking!:eek:

[mohh]

Much better without them.

[PCdog]

that's COW "B":applause: :applause: :applause:

[Izu]

http://www.splicedigital.com/spacefx/1/testrender57.jpg

mmmMMM goodskitchen summer trance cd 2..good stuff...nice to listen to while u model and play ut....anyways..here?s an update..

redid one small part on the underside 2 times and it took ****ing hole day...oh...and we horsed around too... http://www.splicedigital.com/spacefx/2/adayatwork.htm

[gimmix]

looks AMAAAAAAAZIIIIINNGGGG but
wtf(-> http://daax.splicewarestudios.com/s.../adayatwork.htm)
:D :hmm: :rolleyes:

[gnarlycranium]

In regards to the day at work page.... I give you a conversation I just had with a friend on msn....

Me: Omg! Lookit this!!
Him: AHHHHHHHHHH! *hides from freaky CG artist with guns*
Me: *gigglegigglegiggle*ahhhhhh, my people.....
Him: your people Scare me!

:D


...And I kinda liked the tailwings. Maybe make em swept back farther instead of sticking up so far.

[Maximus Groff]

:bounce:
Twisted!!!! where are your sound speakers ??

:rolleyes:
Nice guns...

Ok... keep up!

[Stimpy]

i must confess i kind of liked the tailwings too.. not in the state there were in, but well.. i think it should had some.

for that extra konami feeling..


of course i will never look at you the same way again after seeing you grab your crotch (http://daax.splicewarestudios.com/spacefx/2/2.jpg)


i know he is NOT grabbing his crotch.. but it still looks like it. :D

[Izu]

Twisted!!!! where are your sound speakers ??


speakers ?

[Izu]

http://www.splicedigital.com/spacefx/1/testrender58.jpg

it?s good to render high rez pics..then u see the errors..hehe...i counted 3 major ones in this render..see if u can spot em too..

ok...this is it from me..time to go eat easter eggs...MMMmMMmm eeeeggs... happy easter to everyone... :wavey: :wavey:

[Vash T Stampede]

Drokkinhell!:eek:

[Izu]

Originally posted by Vash T Stampede
Drokkinhell!:eek:


umm.....yeah...i guess ???????????
:surprised

[DigitalCrystal]

Looks good,

I see the point where the wings of the escape pod are clipping through the body of the...but other than that, I don't see any other 'major' errors...

:) :thumbsup:

[DigitalCrystal]

Hey Chicken.. can a see a side profile and head on profile of your craft?

I have an idea of where you could put tail wings... :)

Thanks

[Izu]

Originally posted by Digital_Crystal
Hey Chicken.. can a see a side profile and head on profile of your craft?

I have an idea of where you could put tail wings... :)

Thanks


check page 11 for a frontal pic...and i believe there´s a side shoot somewhere too..otherwise jus do a scetch ;)

[Maximus Groff]

Play a little bit with colours man... i think its more effective for criativity.. gray´s are good for ending showups..

:rolleyes:

[mechadrone]

that is the most impressive model i've seen and to top that; it's all from your head....damn. i've tried that a few times but i either 1) work too hard on one section of it and completely forget about the rest of the design or 2) my brain ends up stuck in a loop.

as far as how your model looks....hmmm...it seems to me that you have somehow managed to take anime and rip it from 2d and put it in an entirely different level of existence.

after seeing your work...i was almost inspired to quit....but....nah!

:love: :love: :love:

[Izu]

Maximus Groff: colours ?...

mechadrone: thnx...well, my trick is to not model ALL the details at once...i still havn´t added the final details to the engines.....witch i started on first.....i wanna get the hole design in before i do the tweeking and trust me there´s gonna be alot of tweeking...:wip:

[DigitalCrystal]

Alrighty...

Here's what I think...

http://www.digitalcrystaldesigns.com/3ds/1.jpg
http://www.digitalcrystaldesigns.com/3ds/2.jpg

Just something I thought would look nice... I bet if you could set those fins up to lay flat under hard acceleration or highspeeds and then tilt back up under slower manuevering, you would be set :)...:thumbsup:

[Izu]

interesting idea...

the wings at the bottom..actually already are rotatable..like in your scetch...was the hole idea with thouse wings...

regarding the top ones...could look coo..but not in that specific place and not that shape...there too big..and they shadows the parts under it...maybe a pair of thiner ones...further back...thnx for the inspiration... :thumbsup:

[DigitalCrystal]

Originally posted by swirly-chicken
interesting idea...

...thnx for the inspiration... :thumbsup:

No problem, glad I could help.:thumbsup:

[cutepixie]

:buttrock: :buttrock: oh yeah i likes it alot ..**purrrrss.....keep it up buddy

i can't wait to see the final results!!!:bounce:

[BlackWolf]

did u know uve almost got the most replies on this thread than neone else?
keep it up!:applause:
why dont u make the main shiop and then experiment with fins, they dont have to look very connected to the hull since most fins are designed to swivel (thats were the detail goes :).
also, if you hull was longer then i think a canard design would be wicked! there arent enough of those around, they look too cool to be ignored. well, thats my rant, ill leave you too it

Keep it up!! :applause: :drool: :applause:

[Izu]

well...i have a layout in ma head for the back of the ship...and i´m not gonna make it any longer...i on the other hand have an idea for the canards ontop....i´ll experiment around with it and see what i come up with...

[Izu]

wings are in the works...thnx too Digital..cheers on ya :beer:
http://www.splicedigital.com/spacefx/1/testrender59.jpg
the back part where the old tailwing was is gonna be turned in to an extra afterburner with a ton of details..
http://www.splicedigital.com/spacefx/1/testrender60.jpg

just trying out the design..not final yet...(in the extra burner..thinking of making it round instaidso it fits right into the slot above where it is rght now.)

[GuGOZO]

wowww can't wait to see the whole thing!!

[Neural Riptide]

:eek: :thumbsup: :buttrock: :applause:

That about sums it up.

You are doing an amazing job.

[William b. Hand]

Late to this thread... SO frigg'n cool. This is so much fun to see! Makes me wanna work on it myself -- Wow.

[DigitalCrystal]

:thumbsup: Looks good Chicken, thanks for the props.

I think you should go with a f16 style of afterburner.. tail.. one that has the sliding tiles so that the thrust can be channeled..

http://www.digitalcrystaldesigns.com/3ds/f16.jpg
http://www.digitalcrystaldesigns.com/3ds/f16engine.jpg

Maybe not.. but at least it's something to think about...

[Izu]

it´s called "vector thrust" ..if i´m not misstaking..and i´ve thought about it :D
I got a ton of ref pics of the back part of jet engines, that i'm looking at for details...

[DigitalCrystal]

Great.

[Nelis]

very very sweet, its nice to see you building up that mighty craft,
just a little question, shouldnt there be some little side bursters to turn the plane when in ful stop?

like a space shuttle does...... just a thought. maybey you wont even see it but all details help right?

coming along nicely

my compliments.

greets niels

[SPIDER2544]

texturing is going to be a beyatch

hahah

but its a killer model cant wait till its done

i have to learn how to do this style of modleing one of these days

[Izu]

this ship is built on the Harrier principle..so yes it is going to have stearing thrustors...

http://www.splicedigital.com/spacefx/1/testrender62.jpg

[Hellwolve]

I take it the orange part is the afterburner? Isn't it too small, if you compare it to the main engines?

[Vash T Stampede]

"texturing is going to be a beyatch"

I second that....But who need texures with this thing:thumbsup:

[arvid]

change back that avatar or i'll punch you in the face at the pub later.

[Izu]

huh ?

[arvid]

haha :beer:

[Stimpy]

"*roffe*"

[Izu]

http://www.splicedigital.com/spacefx/1/testrender61.jpg

yeye...make me..moahahahhahaha ... :arteest:

[Izu]

Originally posted by Hellwolve
I take it the orange part is the afterburner? Isn't it too small, if you compare it to the main engines?

nope..since the cocpit is for 2 people and the other engines are
enormous...

[arvid]

Originally posted by Stimpy
"*roffe*"

hahhaaha oh the joy :beer: we brought a little bit of irc with us :D

[Maximus Groff]

:buttrock:

rocks!

[ExanJU]

Well I guess it'll be slow but manuverable aircraft, ment for close air combat... Just by the distance between the engines one could say that...

Great looking model by the way...

ExanJU

[JasonA]

Looks great! i wasn't moitvated enough to read all 15 pages, but what program is this you're modeling in, and is it subds, nurbs or polys?

[Izu]

ok, i just edited the first post, now no one should have to ask what i use..

Sub-d and poly...

[Kulu_Kulu]

great demonstration of design :drool:

LuWu is my heart :love:

kulu

[foodi]

nice.. reminds me kinda of the gunstars in The Last Starfighter...

ofcourse those were quite low poly compared to yours hehehehe

[liQu1d]

uhh damn.. just had to stop readin.. last page.. hum :/
DAMN this is amazing! :drool: :drool:
what the hell ARE you?! :eek:
i have to say it again and again, this aircraft kickz asses!
you are a genius! its PERFECT!
god bless you! +fav ..
just can´t say anything else atm..

[Aearon]

how about a viewport screen shot or some brighter rendering of the whole thing, so one can really see the modeling details :thumbsup:

[Izu]

oh damn....ok everyone should really get there gamma correction straightened out ;) i know i?m gonna..right now...i see everything clear as day all teh details n stuff..(not the details in all the places..but u?r not surposed to see them clearly..jus so it looks like there?s something there)..

http://www.splicedigital.com/spacefx/1/testrender67.jpg

or actually..there?s not much i can do about it..if u can?t see the details...turn up the contrast and brighness....i?m using adobe gamma loader so ..not really much i can do...

[Wi_2]

wow
this this has come a long way!!

and it just keeps getting better :insane:
great work

forget about the final fantasy thing :blush:
just a short in my brain I guess

[William b. Hand]

First, the requisite: Beautiful friggin' job! What a THRILL to follow this thread -- You realize you're bringing people a delight to their day?! SO great! ok, enuf of that.
Are you still planning on changing the area just behind the cockpit? I remember something about you feeling it wasn't fleshed out satisfactorily, and I sortuv agree.
Also, I think you should begin several more threads with other Cool models, because we're not salivating enough.:drool: :drool: :drool:
(By the way, I feel the amount of detail you've shown through this thread has been GENEROUS... dunno what that was about.)

[liQu1d]

looks very nice! :thumbsup:
if you are finished, a anim and tut would be great :cool:

[shaddix]

dude you rock :airguitar

could you add some glass. to the cockpit?

[Aearon]

hehe i think my gamma is adjusted right ;)

all i wanted was get an idea of the whole, which i now have, so thanks a lot :D

my problem was that you were sometimes showing parts of the plane and i didn't really see what/where they were

[Izu]

Originally posted by fist
hehe i think my gamma is adjusted right ;)

all i wanted was get an idea of the whole, which i now have, so thanks a lot :D

my problem was that you were sometimes showing parts of the plane and i didn't really see what/where they were


ah'...well..glad i could help .. :scream: :p

[Zerflag]

Umm... Swirly, I'm not sure if I like the balance of the ship as it currently is. The engines and the cockpit jutting out from essentially a straight across wing base makes it look a little front heavy.

[BlackWolf]

I think that maybe some form of canard or small jets at the front would help balance the way you cut off the back, maybe sweeping the wings back might look more streamlined too. otherwise this is a very cool model! (what happened to the vtol thing?)

[Zerflag]

Yeah, Swirly, the masses have spoken, well, ok, two people have spoken, and I know you said you're done with it, but maybe you're just confused and what you really want to do is go back and have another look at the balance of it. I'm not so sure it's believable that it wouldn't just fall on its nose in a normal gravity situation as it stands right now. At least add some sort of hefty landing gear in the front?

[DigitalCrystal]

Hey hey now fellas hold on a moment there :shame: We all know that this is a sci fi jet and that it can do things that perhaps things of today couldn't do. ;) I think it was mentioned earlier or something like that about the small fins on the tips of the wings.

I would have to say though Swirley... I looked at the model in that last shot you took... and the cockpit does seem to extend unnaturally forward without some kind of visible reason.. let me explain myself:

The area right behind the cockpit looks similar to a offroad bmx style ramp, in a good way of course :) I was thinking that with your 'harrier' style engine setup, you could develop an intake, of some kind that would duct air in from on top of the center area. Kinda like having a turbo prop engine positioned 75 degrees in respect to the horizon and aimed with the intake up to the 'intake duct' I was mentioning earlier. You could even set it up with a nice computer controlled valve that opens and shuts the intake when changing to hover mode :) *that would add some brownie points to your already knee slappin' good work*

Or, my other thought was to pull the cab back alittle. But those are all just thoughts too. As you know, we can't control how you design it, so in case you take offense to this, don't, we still love you! :love: :thumbsup: :applause: :p

[Izu]

jus spoke to ma server guy and the server will be down AGAIN, for 1 or 2 days..major upgrade going on...

so back to uploads here then..

[heiyuu]

hello stargate

no serious, that last upload reminds me of stargate.

[Izu]

Hmmmm.....thinking of getting rid of the escape pod idea....and use that idea for another project, one that´s more worked throu..
this way i can fix the problem with the cocpit and the area around it...

[Zerflag]

Yeah... get rid of that lumpiness!

[olblue]

Swirly you f00, just upload them to 'palace, I can give you an FTP if you want. Its faster and by the sounds of it more reliable. lol

Cris

[Izu]

mmmm yes...backup maybe..anyways..here´s an update..

i can now add something right behind the cocpit..maybe an airintake or something....cuz now it feels kinda empty..