Bros. Grimm entry for EatPoo.com

[JDex]

My god Stanke,

That's sweet as all-get-out... where do you find the time...

[.FX.]

Wow!:eek:

[Dun]

Niiiice

[Slacker]

Kirt, as always, very nice. :thumbsup:

[Rizzo]

Hey Kirt...

im sure its worthy... loved it !!! :thumbsup:

[freddy7133d]

:eek: :thumbsup:
really nice!

[SheepFactory]

Kirt I love your drawings man , they are always inspirational to me.

Plugged you at the front page :beer:

[Sammy]

Kirt,

very nice !! I REALLY dig the loose underpainting style like yours! Looks to me like you really enjoy exploring.

My only crit is with the lighting. I like the rim light you've got on the compassionate soldier, and I'd suggest that you clarify your primary lightsource. The rocks don't seem to been affected by the light. You might also desaturate the color on that robot in the BG to push it back further.

keep on posting!

:beer:,
Sammy
rhibit@lilypad.ca
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[ilasolomon]

You was very busy then! :D :) Hey, awsome artwork, as always... :thumbsup: :beer: whatta big gun there!

it would be better if you change the robot's direction, coming toward the camera! :p :twisted: [hihihihii!]

[gandan]

i like!

[Kirt]

Hey cool! Front page! Thanks Sheep Factory :beer:

JDex - I don't sleep much. 4-5 hours a night is all I get on the weekdays. Weekends are normal 8 hours though. :D

Sammy - You're right. I added the orange rim light at the end just to bring the compassionate soldier out from the rocks a bit. The primary source of light is supposed to be moonlight (from the upper right), but I don't think it comes across that way.

I also recognized the robot wasn't desaturated enough. But I ran out of time. I got a late start on this one and rushed to get it done for the deadline on Monday. After the results I'll touch up a bit more here and there. I wasn't nearly done working some of the details. :D

ila_solomon - The robot represents the giant in the story. So, he's walking away after kicking the snot out of Death. It's an interesting and short story. You should read it.

[Stahlberg]

"The Tale of the Dropping Jaw"

I really love this, but I'm attracted more to the lower half of the image than the upper... Maybe it's that the robot and the background seems a bit blurrier, softer... I understand and accept that the background is a slightly different style from the foreground, but maybe sharpen up some corners, it's a bit 'blobby' and liquid now..? But the robot also seems to be a different style, more 'heavy opaque gouache over line drawing' than 'thinner smoother gouache - or even marker - with lines filled in last' sort of thing. :)
(But as I said ,the lower half is just perfect.)
edit: or 'lower two thirds' I should say

[Berserker]

I agree with Stahlberg, and i think some kind of environmental effect would make the distance between the forground and background more apperent...making the lower detail of the upper third seem even more appropriate. How about some smoke from a burnt out tank off canvas or something :cool:

anywho, very cool work!

[bentllama]

I like it alot too...
I like the composition...

but, when I squint down, the characters sort of stand out from the background...and the background becomes one mess of gray...perhaps having a gradient of brightness from the background to foreground would help give the scene more depth...IMO the fire aint burnin' bright enough either...

[Witchy]

I think you convey the troops sense of despair very well. Very nice work indeed.

[amos_chid]

This is an amazing piece :buttrock:

Kirt, drag all poo elite to cgtalk :D

[Aearon]

although i think you should adress the things bentllama among others pointed out (esp. the fire, as i didn't recognize it as one at first), this is one brilliant piece man, where DO you find the time :D

[ngrava]

All in all, I really like this pic a lot. It has that same sort of rough comic book feel to it that I've been trying to get at as well in my 2d stuff.

But, I agree with Stahlberg too... but sort of in reveres. After looking at the pic for a while, I finally noticed the little car just below the robot... Oh, it's a giant robot in the far off distance! Well, now that makes since that it would look so soft. But now I'm thinking, maybe you need to exaggerate the distance even more. Maybe try desaturating the colors and making or adding a bit more haze to each layer in the distance.

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[Rotamus]

omg kirt how do u have time to do soo much awsome work do you even shower? i love this pic soo much! :airguitar

[Kirt]

All very good points and I'll see what I can do for the image. I think that it is one of my better ones ... so it pays to tighten it up more for my portfolio. However, it's too late to make changes for the contest. It'll have to stand as is and see how it does against the mighty Poos.

I think the differences you're seeing between the foreground and background are due to the way I put this image together. I had a pretty tight drawing of the two characters in the foreground, but the robot and the rest around them was still up in the air until a couple weeks ago. I rough sketched the robot, car and some of the rocks at his feet. The buildings and some of the other elements around them were freehand in Photoshop.

Here's my early sketch:
http://www.cell2000.net/~users/kirtstanke/temp/death03.jpg

Kinda sloppy how this came together, but compositionally I really thought it worked well in telling the story. The background could use a bit more work but it was still acceptable to convey distance between the sharpness of the foreground characters. Thank you all for your comments. They have pretty much echoed what I was already thinking about the image. :thumbsup:

[Mangled Poly]

so awesome kirt you da man!

[ZVAN]

i love dis style!! :scream:

[phoenix2k]

wow this is great :):thumbsup:

[TheHellmaster]

Wow, that´s really cool!

:applause:

TheHellmaster

[LordEzzat]

really nice peice of work!!! I love seeing the roughs and before or process pictures too to see what it looked like before and how it turned out...the atmosphere in the picture worked realy nicely i think...just love it!!:hmm:

[Franky]

This is very nice work.But background got lost.But new version looks right now,Good work.:thumbsup:

[MonkeY_BoneS]

Really nice work Kirt!

I really like the light reflection of the blue/green leds in th elower left.



http://www.cell2000.net/~users/kirtstanke/images/deaths-messengers-detail1.jpg
[Actual size, detail] [/B]

[natdogmmx]

wow cool

looks like a comic

[Pablo3d]

In some ways the robot could be facing forward instead of backwards. The orientation of the gun in his left hand emphasizes that he is turned away but the rest of the pose is a bit ambiguous. His posture has no potential energy. I think he need to be in an action pose. I love the guys up front though.

[JaKaL]

This is without a doubt the coolest piece of ART I've seen in a long time! :bounce: :beer:

As for me I think the blurryness in the background and the sharpness of the foreground gives this piece very satisfying depth of field and scale. There is a great story here! I wouldn't change a thing!

Bravo!:applause:

[Kirt]

LordEzzat - If you like WIPs, I have one other image for you. This was the step just prior to finished. As you can see, I worked on it quite a bit the last day before the deadline. :D

http://www.cell2000.net/~users/kirtstanke/temp/death04.jpg

Pablo3d - Good points if it were not an illustration of a specific event in the story. There is no energy or action at the end of the battle. The giant (robot) won the fight and is going on his merry way.

amos_chid - I've seen quite a few of the Poo elite post here on occassion. So, they're here ... maybe just not easily seen. Devious Poos :twisted: :D

All - Thanks for your kind words and advice. :beer:

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