RobertoOrtiz
06-06-2007, 04:58 AM
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eldee
06-06-2007, 05:02 AM
Sweet! Fallout rocks :thumbsup:
Layer01
06-06-2007, 06:21 AM
SWEET JESUS!!
:eek::eek:
fall..out.....its..been too long..:love:
this has made my day!! :buttrock:
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fall..out.....its..been too long..:love:
this has made my day!! :buttrock:
Signal2Noise
06-06-2007, 06:52 AM
Starcraft 2? That's yesterday's news!
Fallout 3 looks to be the bomb! (no pun intended) :thumbsup:
Downloading the 132MB 720p version as I type.
Fallout 3 looks to be the bomb! (no pun intended) :thumbsup:
Downloading the 132MB 720p version as I type.
BookMansBlues
06-06-2007, 08:32 AM
sweet!
(wow didn't know anyone else went to VE :P)
(wow didn't know anyone else went to VE :P)
Rob
06-06-2007, 08:46 AM
Please God, let it not suck.
There´s no other games, including Star/Warcraft, that made that much of an impact on me. My only concern is the rumour that they´re gonna scrap the "God´s eye"-perspective in favour for 1st person...
Now all we need is Fallout - the Movie.
/Rob
There´s no other games, including Star/Warcraft, that made that much of an impact on me. My only concern is the rumour that they´re gonna scrap the "God´s eye"-perspective in favour for 1st person...
Now all we need is Fallout - the Movie.
/Rob
P_T
06-06-2007, 12:17 PM
Please God, let it not suck.
There´s no other games, including Star/Warcraft, that made that much of an impact on me. My only concern is the rumour that they´re gonna scrap the "God´s eye"-perspective in favour for 1st person...I felt my spine tingles when the voice said "War... War never changes..." Hell yeah!!
Bethesda should know better than turn Fallout 3 into a retro futuristic, post-apocalyptic Elder Scroll.
edit: Damn!! I never knew it was Ron Perlman who did the voice for all Fallout.
There´s no other games, including Star/Warcraft, that made that much of an impact on me. My only concern is the rumour that they´re gonna scrap the "God´s eye"-perspective in favour for 1st person...I felt my spine tingles when the voice said "War... War never changes..." Hell yeah!!
Bethesda should know better than turn Fallout 3 into a retro futuristic, post-apocalyptic Elder Scroll.
edit: Damn!! I never knew it was Ron Perlman who did the voice for all Fallout.
Quatermass
06-07-2007, 02:25 AM
I'm sorry, this looks better than 'Gears of War', in what way? The blown out treatment after they pullout on the radio thingy made the graphics look relly flat. If this is going first/3rd person etc... then it ain't gonna grab my attention. Has the same feel as Bioshock style wise, and we know nothing of how the thing will play. And I can't say that I was excited by that camera move. If they are basing their sales on the pulling power the title will have with fans of the original, then I hope their ad campaign picks it up a few notches.
I was working in games when the original came out, and frankly, the pre-rendered cut scenes we were doing back then were more exciting. Did any body notice how chunky those seats were? After putting all the detail into that radio, to be assulted with some of the horrible blocky edges in the rest of the clip were really distracting.
I was working in games when the original came out, and frankly, the pre-rendered cut scenes we were doing back then were more exciting. Did any body notice how chunky those seats were? After putting all the detail into that radio, to be assulted with some of the horrible blocky edges in the rest of the clip were really distracting.
duke
06-07-2007, 02:50 AM
I'm sorry, this looks better than 'Gears of War', in what way? The blown out treatment after they pullout on the radio thingy made the graphics look relly flat. If this is going first/3rd person etc... then it ain't gonna grab my attention. Has the same feel as Bioshock style wise, and we know nothing of how the thing will play. And I can't say that I was excited by that camera move. If they are basing their sales on the pulling power the title will have with fans of the original, then I hope their ad campaign picks it up a few notches.
I was working in games when the original came out, and frankly, the pre-rendered cut scenes we were doing back then were more exciting. Did any body notice how chunky those seats were? After putting all the detail into that radio, to be assulted with some of the horrible blocky edges in the rest of the clip were really distracting.
The teaser was captured in-game, it wasn't pre-rendered, so they could have spent time making things a bit smoother but i'm pretty sure most people "get" that it's from the game and no handed out to Blur to make an FMV, and frankly I prefer to see something from the game than something that doesn't represent it, eg. Killzone2.
I was working in games when the original came out, and frankly, the pre-rendered cut scenes we were doing back then were more exciting. Did any body notice how chunky those seats were? After putting all the detail into that radio, to be assulted with some of the horrible blocky edges in the rest of the clip were really distracting.
The teaser was captured in-game, it wasn't pre-rendered, so they could have spent time making things a bit smoother but i'm pretty sure most people "get" that it's from the game and no handed out to Blur to make an FMV, and frankly I prefer to see something from the game than something that doesn't represent it, eg. Killzone2.
P_T
06-07-2007, 03:04 AM
My only concern is the rumour that they´re gonna scrap the "God´s eye"-perspective in favour for 1st person...Actually, after watching the trailer again I'm kinda scared the rumour is true. If it's not going to be 1st person, why are they making the character ingame model so detailed? The article did say they're using game assets.
Quatermass
06-07-2007, 03:42 AM
The teaser was captured in-game, it wasn't pre-rendered, so they could have spent time making things a bit smoother but i'm pretty sure most people "get" that it's from the game and no handed out to Blur to make an FMV, and frankly I prefer to see something from the game than something that doesn't represent it, eg. Killzone2.
I understand that it was using the game engine. My point was that it looks crap and could have been done better, since it was not supposed to be in game, and is intended to promote the game. How do I know? Because I've been working in games for fifteen years.
I understand that it was using the game engine. My point was that it looks crap and could have been done better, since it was not supposed to be in game, and is intended to promote the game. How do I know? Because I've been working in games for fifteen years.
oktawu
06-07-2007, 09:45 AM
fallout was never really about graphics (not that it didnt have good graphics).
it was the atmosphere, the mood, the immersion, the whole universe itself.
frankly, i couldn't care less about the graphics engine it runs on, if the mood and story are true to the original fallout series. but of course theres this new generation of people dying for fancy words like normal mapping, parallax mapping, next-gen hype, pretty glowy hdri shaders, smooth "flamboyant" explosions and u name it. what they tend to forget is the underlining story and overall feeling. devs usually cover the lack of it by using all of the above in a highly excessive manner.
if the game is good and it draws u in completely, why care so much about the next gen crap word?
it was the atmosphere, the mood, the immersion, the whole universe itself.
frankly, i couldn't care less about the graphics engine it runs on, if the mood and story are true to the original fallout series. but of course theres this new generation of people dying for fancy words like normal mapping, parallax mapping, next-gen hype, pretty glowy hdri shaders, smooth "flamboyant" explosions and u name it. what they tend to forget is the underlining story and overall feeling. devs usually cover the lack of it by using all of the above in a highly excessive manner.
if the game is good and it draws u in completely, why care so much about the next gen crap word?
Rob
06-07-2007, 10:26 AM
Unfortunaly I have to agree... When I watched the teaser it really didn´t do anything for me. Not like the old ones, which really added to the atmosphere in the games.
And even if the ingame engine is a bit limited they surely could have done a lot more in terms of teasing. Just throw us a fricking bone!
Now it´s more like a fanboy interpretation of how a teaser for Fallout 3 could look like.
I will definitely buy the game though. And see the movie. And buy the special 4 disc boxset.
/Rob
And even if the ingame engine is a bit limited they surely could have done a lot more in terms of teasing. Just throw us a fricking bone!
Now it´s more like a fanboy interpretation of how a teaser for Fallout 3 could look like.
I will definitely buy the game though. And see the movie. And buy the special 4 disc boxset.
/Rob
P_T
06-07-2007, 12:19 PM
You know what, I think the 1st person rumour is true... They said they used ingame assets for that render, but if they were going for the original ingame perspective, they wouldn't need such detailed interior and character model.
As for the graphic, it's only a teaser and I think apart from the train seat lacking details, it still looks pretty good.
As for the graphic, it's only a teaser and I think apart from the train seat lacking details, it still looks pretty good.
shuggie
06-07-2007, 12:35 PM
Yeah I thought it looked pretty decent although not up to the gears of war standard, although I do wonder why it couldn't have been rendered in real time?
inneractive
06-07-2007, 10:30 PM
I understand that it was using the game engine. My point was that it looks crap and could have been done better, since it was not supposed to be in game, and is intended to promote the game. How do I know? Because I've been working in games for fifteen years.
Bethesda does not have a large loyal fanbase because of amazing graphics technology, it's because they create immersive, open-ended, highly mod-able, first-person RPGs. Based on Bethesda's track record, the feature you should be paying attention to is gameplay, not graphics.
As someone that has been working in games for 15 years you of all people should understand that a lot can change in the next 1.5 to 2 years before it is released. I myself worked in the games industry for 5+ years before going back to college and have seen how much can happen in period as short as six months.
Bethesda does not have a large loyal fanbase because of amazing graphics technology, it's because they create immersive, open-ended, highly mod-able, first-person RPGs. Based on Bethesda's track record, the feature you should be paying attention to is gameplay, not graphics.
As someone that has been working in games for 15 years you of all people should understand that a lot can change in the next 1.5 to 2 years before it is released. I myself worked in the games industry for 5+ years before going back to college and have seen how much can happen in period as short as six months.
Quatermass
06-08-2007, 12:50 AM
Bethesda does not have a large loyal fanbase because of amazing graphics technology, it's because they create immersive, open-ended, highly mod-able, first-person RPGs. Based on Bethesda's track record, the feature you should be paying attention to is gameplay, not graphics.
As someone that has been working in games for 15 years you of all people should understand that a lot can change in the next 1.5 to 2 years before it is released. I myself worked in the games industry for 5+ years before going back to college and have seen how much can happen in period as short as six months.
Yeah. As I noted in my first post, there's no gameplay reveals other than the first/third person potential shown in the clip. My point was that everyone was getting excited over something that looked less than it could have, and was not in the vein of the cherished memories they have of the game.
That being said, I thought the fuss over the trailer was premature. As you should also know, the time between first previews and actual release of a game can also have a detrimental effect on a game too in that it can look either dated or no longer exciting in the face of whatever else has been released in the mean time.
As someone that has been working in games for 15 years you of all people should understand that a lot can change in the next 1.5 to 2 years before it is released. I myself worked in the games industry for 5+ years before going back to college and have seen how much can happen in period as short as six months.
Yeah. As I noted in my first post, there's no gameplay reveals other than the first/third person potential shown in the clip. My point was that everyone was getting excited over something that looked less than it could have, and was not in the vein of the cherished memories they have of the game.
That being said, I thought the fuss over the trailer was premature. As you should also know, the time between first previews and actual release of a game can also have a detrimental effect on a game too in that it can look either dated or no longer exciting in the face of whatever else has been released in the mean time.
neonneo
06-08-2007, 01:43 AM
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P_T
06-08-2007, 02:26 AM
Yeah. As I noted in my first post, there's no gameplay reveals other than the first/third person potential shown in the clip. My point was that everyone was getting excited over something that looked less than it could have, and was not in the vein of the cherished memories they have of the game.
That being said, I thought the fuss over the trailer was premature. As you should also know, the time between first previews and actual release of a game can also have a detrimental effect on a game too in that it can look either dated or no longer exciting in the face of whatever else has been released in the mean time.I understand what you mean, if you checked Halo 3 and Starcraft 2 thread, that "but [game name] is not about the graphic though" statement keeps popping up in defense of said game.
That being said, since this teaser used ingame assets, I think if this game really is going to be top down perspective like the original, that level of detail in the trailer is going to be more than enough, in fact, you can actually call it an overkill. However, if it's going to be 1st person, then you're right, it won't be up to today's standard.
That being said, I thought the fuss over the trailer was premature. As you should also know, the time between first previews and actual release of a game can also have a detrimental effect on a game too in that it can look either dated or no longer exciting in the face of whatever else has been released in the mean time.I understand what you mean, if you checked Halo 3 and Starcraft 2 thread, that "but [game name] is not about the graphic though" statement keeps popping up in defense of said game.
That being said, since this teaser used ingame assets, I think if this game really is going to be top down perspective like the original, that level of detail in the trailer is going to be more than enough, in fact, you can actually call it an overkill. However, if it's going to be 1st person, then you're right, it won't be up to today's standard.
Pyke
06-08-2007, 08:50 AM
OMG! TEH GRAFIX IS TEH SUXOR!!! THIS GAME WITH SUX COS ITS NOT DIRECTX 10 LOLZORZ!!!
I got shivers with the 'war...war never changes' VO. I cant wait for this! Personally, I think an open ended FPS would be perfect for this game, ala STALKER, or a GTA with some major RPG elements (I hope they keep the SPECIAL system), and a world 100x the size. I love the idea of wondering the wasteland in real time from one town to the next. Seeing where The Brotherhood have gotten to....going to an updated Shady Pines, or exploring an abandoned vault.
I also hope that they keep the action turn based..how that would work with the FPS style could be interesting.
Well Im giddy. ;)
I got shivers with the 'war...war never changes' VO. I cant wait for this! Personally, I think an open ended FPS would be perfect for this game, ala STALKER, or a GTA with some major RPG elements (I hope they keep the SPECIAL system), and a world 100x the size. I love the idea of wondering the wasteland in real time from one town to the next. Seeing where The Brotherhood have gotten to....going to an updated Shady Pines, or exploring an abandoned vault.
I also hope that they keep the action turn based..how that would work with the FPS style could be interesting.
Well Im giddy. ;)
Fingus
06-08-2007, 09:21 AM
I'm not sure what all of you expected to see in the trailer, but I believe that this is more than enough to confirm that Bethesda will do an excellent job at nailing the atmosphere and setting of the first two games. And let's be honest here, isn't that more important than clinging onto an outdated gameplay? (oh god I'm gonna get flak'd for this...)
Either way, I have full confidence in Bethesda making a good third. They have said in interviews that the bulk of the team they have working on it are diehard fanboys of the series and that they will try their best to stay true to the source material. And as I've already said the trailer shows that they are more than competent enough to pull the mood off, so what remains now is the gameplay which I do have to admit that they could **** up big time... But time will show, this will be far from the last game footage they will give us in the next year and a half.
Either way, I have full confidence in Bethesda making a good third. They have said in interviews that the bulk of the team they have working on it are diehard fanboys of the series and that they will try their best to stay true to the source material. And as I've already said the trailer shows that they are more than competent enough to pull the mood off, so what remains now is the gameplay which I do have to admit that they could **** up big time... But time will show, this will be far from the last game footage they will give us in the next year and a half.
P_T
06-08-2007, 03:04 PM
And let's be honest here, isn't that more important than clinging onto an outdated gameplay? (oh god I'm gonna get flak'd for this...)I don't even know you let alone want to flak you. ;)
I am however, interested in why you think the gameplay is outdated, is it because it's turn based? If it is, I'd have to disagree with you because I think it's just a different type of gameplay. For one, it allows you to control more than one character in a battle which is important in Fallout and I think that's better because you don't have to rely on some AI which makes the outcome a bit random and unpredictable.
Besides, some of the best RPG and strategy games ever made were turn based. Some of the examples are Master of Orion, X-COM, Baldur's Gate, Planescape: Torment, Fallout, Jagged Alliance.
I am however, interested in why you think the gameplay is outdated, is it because it's turn based? If it is, I'd have to disagree with you because I think it's just a different type of gameplay. For one, it allows you to control more than one character in a battle which is important in Fallout and I think that's better because you don't have to rely on some AI which makes the outcome a bit random and unpredictable.
Besides, some of the best RPG and strategy games ever made were turn based. Some of the examples are Master of Orion, X-COM, Baldur's Gate, Planescape: Torment, Fallout, Jagged Alliance.
inneractive
06-08-2007, 10:03 PM
Besides, some of the best RPG and strategy games ever made were turn based. Some of the examples are Master of Orion, X-COM, Baldur's Gate, Planescape: Torment, Fallout, Jagged Alliance.
I still love that style of gameplay and still have Fallout Tactics installed and play just about every Bioware game that comes out. You might want to try out Silent Storm if you are into that kind of gameplay, it's a great Tactical RPG.
I still love that style of gameplay and still have Fallout Tactics installed and play just about every Bioware game that comes out. You might want to try out Silent Storm if you are into that kind of gameplay, it's a great Tactical RPG.
P_T
06-09-2007, 04:03 PM
I still love that style of gameplay and still have Fallout Tactics installed and play just about every Bioware game that comes out. You might want to try out Silent Storm if you are into that kind of gameplay, it's a great Tactical RPG.So do I, less keyboard shortcut, more thinking, but I'm not big on games in WW setting.
Shade01
06-09-2007, 07:33 PM
The amount of extrapolation that's gone into this teaser is nothing short of amazing.
kurdesen
06-09-2007, 08:58 PM
my guess is that the models are way too lowpoly for a 1st person game , which may be a sign of 3rd person view like dungeon siege or something like that.
csutcliffe
06-10-2007, 10:52 AM
I would be ecstatic if it was still a 2d isometric game. I think the Fallout games along with maybe System shock 2 has the best character development system I've seen in a RPG but of course that's just my opinion. There's something a bit lame with Morrowind's character system in that you get more athletic by going around jumping everywhere - I just hope they stay true to the Fallout series which were criminally underated games.
Having siad all that, Bethseda's style of creating huge open ended worlds will probably lend itself well to Fallout. One problem I had with the Morrowind games is that the story has never been strong enough to compell me to see where the next bit of it goes and I'd much rather spend hours searching ruins which all look the same and picking flowers to make potions. The real point I suppose I'm trying to make is that Morrowind was unrewarding for me so I think if Bethseda can keep the story, characters and style faithful to Fallout but the same huge enviroments that they are synonymous with it should probably be the best game that will ever be created - EVERhttp://forums.cgsociety.org/images/icons/icon12.gif
Having siad all that, Bethseda's style of creating huge open ended worlds will probably lend itself well to Fallout. One problem I had with the Morrowind games is that the story has never been strong enough to compell me to see where the next bit of it goes and I'd much rather spend hours searching ruins which all look the same and picking flowers to make potions. The real point I suppose I'm trying to make is that Morrowind was unrewarding for me so I think if Bethseda can keep the story, characters and style faithful to Fallout but the same huge enviroments that they are synonymous with it should probably be the best game that will ever be created - EVERhttp://forums.cgsociety.org/images/icons/icon12.gif
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