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HillbillyKing
06-04-2007, 05:32 PM
I'm going for the scene from Jedi where Leia unfreezes Han from the Carbonite.
haven't nailed down a composition yet (will do that today), but my initial thought is
to have her looking over her shoulder, back at the camera, while working the controls on
Han.

michaelshippy
06-04-2007, 07:30 PM
Looks like I've got some competition for this scene! This should help spur me to make some quicker progress.

http://forums.cgsociety.org/showthread.php?f=208&t=500055

Welcome to the challenge, HillbillyKing.

HillbillyKing
06-04-2007, 07:37 PM
So we picked the same scene huh? ha ha. Well, I wouldn't worry too much about me. If my history stays true...I'll work really hard on this for a couple weeks then totally miss the deadline only to come back to the project months from now! ha ha.
I do hope to finish the scene though (fingers crossed)
maybe we can give each other some good feedback.

HillbillyKing
06-04-2007, 11:01 PM
Wow
I just looked at your WIP images michaelshippy.
that's going to be hard to live up to. Looks like you're cruising along.
Good looking start

michaelshippy
06-04-2007, 11:19 PM
Thanks man. I should have another update of the room late tonight. One piece of advice: if you're getting screen shots from the films of Jabba's throne room for reference, shoot for two scenes in RotJ: when 3PO and R2 are first presented to Jabba, and when the band plays for Jabba just before Ooala gets fed to the rancor. At first I was working off of shots just during the scene where Leia rescues Han, but it's so dark in most of those shots that it's near impossible to see anything.

If you need reference images, let me know and I'll email you a Zip of everything I've got so far.

RobertoOrtiz
06-05-2007, 04:17 PM
Some pics:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/piero/311703408/
http://www.boxinggame.com/tbgpros/218845/han_solo_carbonite_face.jpg

HillbillyKing
06-06-2007, 01:51 AM
Ok, so last night I finally got to work on this. I decided to start on the helmet first. I was having some trouble getting a base shape, my goal is to have the entire helmet modeled and normal mapped by this weekend (I know....I'm slow) Working on it tonight. Hope to have better update tomorrow.

HillbillyKing
06-07-2007, 04:08 AM
I've had the chance to work some more on the helmet. I've broken Boushh into two segments: Helmet and the body. I'm hoping to finish the helmet (with UV's) tomorrow.

michaelshippy
06-07-2007, 08:16 PM
Excellent work, man! The detail you've got, particularly in the ear piece, is just fantastic.

HillbillyKing
06-11-2007, 06:16 AM
Here's the latest on my leia. Started working on the outfit. I've also added a thermal detonator. I'm still tossing around the idea of doing Chewbacca in chains so the detonator may come in handy.

http://img102.imageshack.us/img102/1961/wipew06xh3.jpg

HillbillyKing
06-11-2007, 06:18 AM
Here's the image:
http://img102.imageshack.us/img102/1961/wipew06xh3.jpg

HillbillyKing
06-11-2007, 06:20 AM
Sorry for the huge image..my bad

nicofb
06-11-2007, 08:28 AM
very nice! keep going! =) perhaps make the edges on the thermal detonator a tad "sharper", they look a bit too smooth but that might just be the smoothing groups or something i guess.

michaelshippy
06-11-2007, 04:28 PM
Really nice, man. Can I ask where you're finding all the detail in the chest strap components? I've got a lot of pictures, but nothing shows the level of detail that you're covering here.

HillbillyKing
06-11-2007, 06:57 PM
You're right. It looks more like orange slices than cut metal. Before I texture it I'll go in and
try to sharpen it up. Thanks.

HillbillyKing
06-11-2007, 07:04 PM
Hey Michael: I've got several images from a few different sites. I looked up Boushh leia statues. Gentle Giant has made a bust statue of Leia in Boushh outfit that's pretty good.
Also, I got some fairly good images from the Smithsonian exhibit on Star Wars. I've found that some of the high dollar statues took a lot of liberty from the original outfit. The details vary. I was lucky enough to see the star wars exhibit while it was traveling around the country and it's funny to see the movie props...they're not always as detailed as you think. So my model is going to be a mixture of both.

I've got several good images. Shoot me an email address and I'll send them all to you. I'm going camping this afternoon for a couple of days so I won't be on the computer till the end of the week (friday or so)

I have to admit though, some of the detail I'm throwing in is kinda random. When you look at detail images of star wars outfits or ships so many times its jut random cubes and cylinders. If you throw enough of that stuff in there....it'll look complicated enough to pass.

HillbillyKing
06-21-2007, 05:55 AM
Did the boots and the legs. Starting on the Pants and cape

http://img463.imageshack.us/img463/406/wipcopyyy4.th.jpg (http://img463.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wipcopyyy4.jpg)

HillbillyKing
06-22-2007, 07:00 AM
There are still some things I need to do to Boushh, but I think it's time to move away from
her for the moment and work on the rest of the scene. In this WIP I've added the arms and sleeves. Also, there is a bit more detail to the cloth areas. Next Stop... frozen Han

http://img472.imageshack.us/img472/3397/boushhwipaq8.jpg

HillbillyKing
06-22-2007, 07:04 AM
Still not totally sold on the final scene yet...I'm thinking as I work on the set it will come to me.
http://img264.imageshack.us/img264/480/boushhwipnq6.jpg

John-S
06-22-2007, 07:55 AM
Great Job! Looking forward to seeing your progress :thumbsup:

angel
06-30-2007, 04:30 AM
Hey, I didn't know you were doing this...

The head and strap belt is very nice, I do have a couple of suggestions. The cloth falls very unrealistically, the drappery needs some work the folds do not follow stress points. She has no neck! even tho she is fully covered to keep her cover there is no shape definition, it is completely flat.

Here is a tutorial I wrote a while back on making folds maybe it'll help.
tutorial (http://www.newtek.com/products/lightwave/tutorials/modeling/clothing-details/index.html)

Another thing that got my attention was the thin finguers of the hands, then I saw the close up that you posted and I thought they look very close to the hands that Nick made for you'll like this one (http://bp3.blogger.com/_DUk3v8WChgk/RnGnCUjTbhI/AAAAAAAAAB0/JUPTCHbV99c/s1600-h/HighFemale.jpg) , they are identical, are you using them as reference?

good luck with this, hopefully you'll finish this one.

Firerbert
06-30-2007, 08:56 PM
Superb update! :applause:
I agree with all of SNoWs comments. Take them to heart and you'll have a killer model!

HillbillyKing
07-03-2007, 01:01 AM
I agree. the cloth could use some work. I'll have to check out your tutorial. Thanks for sending it.

HillbillyKing
07-05-2007, 05:35 PM
My Job has been a bit hectic as of late so I've not gotten to work on this as much as I had wished to. I got an image off the net (pretty weak image, but using it best I can) Trying desparately to find my DVD of Jedi. I worked on the tables that bookend Han.

http://http://img444.imageshack.us/img444/6493/furniturepu6.jpg

HillbillyKing
07-05-2007, 05:38 PM
http://img444.imageshack.us/img444/6493/furniturepu6.th.jpg (http://img444.imageshack.us/my.php?image=furniturepu6.jpg)

HillbillyKing
07-05-2007, 05:44 PM
This is some work I did on Han. It's not that great, but I'm hoping that if he's in the background it'll be ok. I basically did what I did on the rest of the scene, Rough out the shape (blocked out a human then the carbonite block) then took it into Zbrush and tryied to
put some wrinkles to simulate han's clothes. I also threw all the elements into a scene and played around with layout a bit. This composition isnt' straight from the movie, but I just wanted something I thought was cool, besides Michael's image of Boushh is looks dead on. There's no need to compete with that. Thought I'd go another direction.

http://img509.imageshack.us/img509/4430/hanworknw6.jpg

HillbillyKing
07-05-2007, 05:50 PM
Here's my layout idea (so far) The hands on Boushh need to be redone. They're bent all funny. My quick rig attempt obviously failed. I'll have to do those over. Her legs do not connect yet. And I agree with an earlier post about her neck looking flat and crappy. Maybe tonight I'll try to finish up the scene architecture (if I can find that dvd for reference)


http://http://img517.imageshack.us/img517/499/layoutideavb3.jpg

HillbillyKing
07-05-2007, 05:53 PM
here is my early attempt at a layout
http://img517.imageshack.us/img517/499/layoutideavb3.jpg

Yav
07-05-2007, 06:05 PM
Looking good.

Airflow
07-05-2007, 11:41 PM
Looks pretty cool, you dont hang about do ya.... Id tweak Leia's legs a bit, ant try out some other poses, maybey her looking round, I dunno if the explosive theme is a good one without other charcters in the scene.
Nice work tho.

HillbillyKing
07-06-2007, 08:49 PM
ok, I know it's silly to start another character so close to a deadline...but I figure I've spent this much time on this piece I should make something I'd like to keep. My end goal (whether it makes the deadline or not) is to have Boushh with chained Chewie in the forground with Han frozen the background.

I dont' have the slightest clue how to sculpt hair....or simulate hair for that matter. No better time to try to learn than now I guess. I've got a mesh blocked out of chewie's head. I took it into Zbrush and played with the Standard, Rake and Pinch brushes. That tapped my knowlege. I'm now trying to read up on taking zpheres and making additional strands of hair. My goal is to learn as much as I can about different hair methods in the next couple weeks. I guess if worse comes to worse...I can always setup a render and photoshop the hair for a final piece.http://http://img507.imageshack.us/img507/1056/chewiewip1zl1.jpg

HillbillyKing
07-06-2007, 08:50 PM
chewie start
http://%5BURL=http://imageshack.us%5D%5BIMG%5Dhttp://img507.imageshack.us/img507/1056/chewiewip1zl1.jpg%5B/IMG%5D%5B/URL%5Dhttp://http://img507.imageshack.us/img507/1056/chewiewip1zl1.jpg (http://%5BURL=http://img507.imageshack.us/my.php?image=chewiewip1zl1.jpg%5D%5BIMG%5Dhttp://im)

HillbillyKing
07-09-2007, 06:28 AM
realized the chewie work was pointless (especially with my limited knowledge on hair) but what the heck...it's always fun to try something. Anyway,...I'm finished with my scene. I plan to texture it for a final render later, but here are my entries.http://img401.imageshack.us/img401/204/orthoem1.jpg



Here is my Horrific WireFrame. I really need to learn to cut back on the polys.


http://img523.imageshack.us/img523/8396/wireframeij9.jpg

HillbillyKing
07-09-2007, 06:30 AM
Here is my Final Image.

http://img159.imageshack.us/img159/3781/entryimage4webyk1.jpg

Boone
07-09-2007, 09:23 AM
"50,000. No less."

I quite liked Leia in her disguise, thats a good effort.:)

zenonithus
07-09-2007, 09:58 AM
This is looking really good, but Han looks like a woman for some reason. Will you have time to texture?

HillbillyKing
07-09-2007, 09:23 PM
Thanks guys.

I won't have time to texture before the deadline, but I'll probably go back and redo certain elements of the scene and texture it.

(dang you're right...Han does look like a woman. I hadn't noticed that before...)

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