3d max without brazil?

[drunkirishmic]

also, are there any great drawbacks/disadvantges to max?

ahhhh, everyone resist the temptation!

as for ur question, max can produce realistic renders, there hav been many great images and animation before brazil. it just takes a lot longer to render and setup. if u get max 5, u will hav some GI capability, but it takes a lot longer to render.

[Tex3D]

The MAX renderer kinda sux, but there are other renderers. You don't HAVE to use brazil. I actually prefer Final Render over brazil, and here is also VRAY.

It ultimately falls into how well you use the tool. If your modeling and texturing don't stack up, then it doesn't really matter which renderer you use.

Good Luck

-Dave

[BrandonD]

I prefer Brazil nowadays, but I've worked on many projects using the plain old vanilla scanline renderer with realistic results. There are certain limitations with the scanline renderer, but it's still very production worthy. It's very fast but not always memory efficient. The main thing is that it takes a bit more familiarity to push it hard for best results.

Think of it this way: You should move up to a new tool only once you've exhausted the existing tool. I think most people new to 3d or MAX for that part, working on their own, will take a while before they've gotten all they can out of the default renderer. When it's time to move on to something with more capabilities, then by all means check out Brazil.

[S_3D_A]

Ditto to what BrandonD said. You can to a point accomplish just as much with the default scanline renderer that you can with brazil r/s. It just takes a bit longer and alot of tweaking.

I prefer brazil r/s but I have used finalRender before. Like others have said there are other render engines you can use. Like vray or even mental ray.

[WChestnutt]

thanks!

i'll try and get hold of a demo and see what it's like without brazil.!
how much does brazil cost though?

Cheers,

Will

[Refracted]

from: splutterfish.com (http://www.splutterfish.com/sf/sf_gen_page.php3?printer=1&page=brazil) .. a workstation + 2 render nodes is 1200$, while 4 extra rendernodes come at 750$. sounds like alot.. but compared to mentalray, it's a bargain, though it's slightly more than fR and vray.. i still prefer brazil myself, though i've never used fR (no freakin demo), and although vray is nice, my workflow just seems better with brazil.

[Oktavian]

This is from Splutterfish' website:

"The online SplutterFish Market can be accessed from our secure website. From here you can purchase Brazil r/s with Visa, Mastercard or American Express at a price of $1200(USD) for an Artist Bundle and $750(USD) for a Renderfarm Bundle.

Artist Bundle includes THREE licenses, resulting in THREE computers for rendering. One license, the Workstation-node license*, gives artist access to the Brazil r/s GUI. The other two Render-node licenses may only be used for non-GUI network rendering machines.
Renderfarm Bundle includes FOUR licenses, resulting in FOUR computers for rendering. These four non-GUI Render-node licenses* may only be used for network rendering. This bundle is geared towards larger facilities that have a farm of computers that are used soley for rendering animation frames over a network and are not used by the artist for setting up scenes and interacting with the Brazil GUI."

[Oktavian]

Ok, Refracted you was a bit faster :) .

[WChestnutt]

Thanks,

That doesn't seem to be a bad price!

Will

[UberModeler]

would brazil be for a company or personal use?

isnt there a new public test coming out soon?

[WChestnutt]

It would be for personal use, i'm stuck between getting lightwave student version, and 3ds max student version at the moment,

Thanks,

Will

[UberModeler]

well with student version the lisence is only good while you are a student. max5 full is cheaper and you get it forever right? and brazil is to very very nice it seems splutterfish has the neatest pics in the world. also thete is a guy on there that does amazign work.....i cant seem to remember his web site trisvinia or something like that....ill go look.....trinisica.com- neat renders.

[S_3D_A]

Full version of 3d max 5 last time I heard was in the ball park of 3500 US currency but I could be mistakened. Student version is like 950 or so.

[Rogosh]

The Student version of Max 5.1 is $469.

[WChestnutt]

Thanks :thumbsup:

Will

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