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quinox
03-15-2003, 01:59 PM
wip... dont know if I have to add something. Tried several things, nothing seems to fit. its 3dmax btw


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Full Title: It is A Beautiful Day To Die
http://httpd.chello.nl/~c.luiten/temp/130303/fin.jpg

icr82nz
03-15-2003, 02:26 PM
NOT BAD. ITS SIMPLE AND YOU CAN STILL GET THE IDEA, HOW LONG DID IT TAKE?

urgaffel
03-15-2003, 04:37 PM
I don't know wether to cry or laugh...

"how long did it take?"

my guess is on 2.5 seconds...

Viper.dk
03-15-2003, 04:39 PM
I like the white part of the picture.

Tommi
03-15-2003, 04:41 PM
I like your play with contrast. First of all the contrast between shapes - hard and sharp edges of the right object (I guess it is a stylized, indicated christian cross?) and the smooth and round shape of the left object, that reminds me of something growing, living but being bend... pushed down to earth besides the symbol of death.
Second of all there is the classical contrast between black and white, maybe as a metaphor for life and death, being alive and being dead.
The reason of your chosen title of this work may refer to the size of the right object - it is a big symbol of death, therefore a good day to die


Great work :thumbsup:

gnarlycranium
03-15-2003, 09:41 PM
*stares with eyes all spinny from those whirling pastel dots* ....welcome to a beautiful day to die... this is a beautiful day to die... welcome... anything is possible in a beautiful day to die... welcome to a beautiful day to die... http://216.40.249.192/s/otn/confused/OOooh.gif

Hellwolve
03-15-2003, 11:13 PM
Originally posted by urgaffel
I don't know wether to cry or laugh...

"how long did it take?"

my guess is on 2.5 seconds...

I second that...


Even I could make that :rolleyes:

EDIT:

Perhaps I'm trying to say that I don't think it's art :P

peterpro
03-15-2003, 11:34 PM
art is not "even i could make that"

art is (for me) would i have put that together in that particular way.

I personally would not.. but then again all my stuff is towards photoreal, celshaded.

making simple stuff is actually sometimes hard sometimes easy.

Inspiration is the clarity that sees you through a session of super focused worktime and yeilds a masterpiece. (relativly speaking)

I have no idea how long it took.. how old is this guy/gal .
if he's 25 years old..
one could say it took
25 years for this art to come along.
is it cultural? did we have to wait for the advent of christianity to get crosses in our images? or was it someone standing with thier arms out resemebled a cross and someone noticed.
Now crosses symbolic of people standing with arms out are it's in tons of art? What it's a symbol of christ.. oh that too.
hehe =) (just my thougts here its a rainy day today)


no two artists will make something quite the same if starting from scratch.

unless they are linked by cybertronic implants.. =)

my two cents.

hey lets have a contest - simplest artworks - make it a week's turn around time so the most time anyone has is one week to
create - a simple but interesting contrast artwork =)

gnarlycranium
03-15-2003, 11:46 PM
pssssst... peterpro... GO TO ZOMBOCOM. You will understand everything at ZOMBOCOM. Everything is possible at ZOMBOCOM. (translation: look here! (http://www.cgtalk.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=49865) ) :D

peterpro
03-16-2003, 12:44 AM
hmmm..

i see - spinning balls of color ala flash .. my eyes.. ohh my eyes.
Guess i picked a bad time to quit taking acid.. ohh my eyes.


zombo is just a single page.

however cleverly hidden in the source code is the following site
15footstickcom

he uses php to drive his site, got a link list adding php and what looks like some sort of portal php thing going. AHH ITS post nuke.

(i'm currently learning php for freecg.com so i found that at least interesting.)

to each their own right =)

gnarlycranium
03-16-2003, 01:42 AM
Mymy, the peterpro seems to be quite clever! Innnnteresting!

BiTMAP
03-16-2003, 05:21 AM
ah its simple, sure not exactly a time consumeing peice, and the location of the person doesn't seem to center the image.


for those of you who don't see it, it is someone bowing at the foot of the cross.

misu
03-16-2003, 05:42 AM
it is interesting .... i see the crux in center of image ....

ndog
03-16-2003, 05:50 AM
Please post a wireframe.

quinox
03-16-2003, 09:26 AM
first of all, i would like to thank all of you for replying

For me, this is art. I work on an image like this for a couple of days. And work here does not mean modeling, as you might have guessed, but trying to convert a feeling/mood/emotion into a picture. The modeling itself takes about 60 minutes (to make it the way I want it). I do see why some of you dont want to see this as art, and since I can't change those people I have peace with it, as long as i can post at this board without getting kicked/closed.

I do think that a model which took 160hours to make is art too, and I do really enjoy pictures of those models, but that is not my personal goal.

harmonic01
03-16-2003, 10:04 AM
Did you guys notice a tiny littel black line representing the 4th, less visible side of the cross? (very left side of the cross) I just noticed it.

Very good use of negative space. :applause:

Tommi
03-16-2003, 02:12 PM
Originally posted by quinox
first of all, i would like to thank all of you for replying

For me, this is art. I work on an image like this for a couple of days. And work here does not mean modeling, as you might have guessed, but trying to convert a feeling/mood/emotion into a picture. The modeling itself takes about 60 minutes (to make it the way I want it). I do see why some of you dont want to see this as art, and since I can't change those people I have peace with it, as long as i can post at this board without getting kicked/closed.

I do think that a model which took 160hours to make is art too, and I do really enjoy pictures of those models, but that is not my personal goal.

:thumbsup: I appreciate your work and I totally agree - this is art.
Many people on CGTalk already forgot about that, because they are used to Hollywood and video game standards. They are spoiled with colorful loaded impressive artworks which are supposed to resemble reality.
You're courageous and I have a lot of respect for your way to handle some ignorant comments.

Hellwolve
03-16-2003, 02:22 PM
Originally posted by Tommi
:thumbsup: I appreciate your work and I totally agree - this is art.<SNIP>

Sorry to bother you, but that's an opinion, not a fact.

IMHO, as example, this isn't art. I know I presented it as a fact some posts ago, and I am sorry for that.

Tommi
03-16-2003, 02:29 PM
Art is everything made by human's hand, because art is the result of creation and he obviously created this work, didn't he?
Look at the word itself - art. Art is everything but natural - art is artificial.
If this piece of work pleases your eye or not is a matter of taste and individual perception and overall _your_ problem. But this image is art, simple that. The expression art does not mean skillful in imitating reality or skillful in pleasing the viewer's eyes... heck that offends me.

Hellwolve
03-16-2003, 02:36 PM
Originally posted by Tommi
Art is everything made by human's hand, because art is the result of creation and he obviously created this work, didn't he?
Look at the word itself - art. Art is everything but natural - art is artificial.
If this piece of work pleases your eye or not is a matter of taste and individual perception and overall _your_ problem. But this image is art.

Are guns art? Roads? A-bombs? Cars?

Why are you contradicting yourself?

"If this piece of work pleases your eye or not is a matter of taste and individual perception...."

That says something else then

"But this image is art"

Do you mean your opinion is valid for all of us?

BiTMAP
03-16-2003, 03:00 PM
does it really matter so much?


Human effort to imitate, supplement, alter, or counteract the work of nature.

The conscious production or arrangement of sounds, colors, forms, movements, or other elements in a manner that affects the sense of beauty, specifically the production of the beautiful in a graphic or plastic medium.
The study of these activities.
The product of these activities; human works of beauty considered as a group.
High quality of conception or execution, as found in works of beauty; aesthetic value.
A field or category of art, such as music, ballet, or literature.
A nonscientific branch of learning; one of the liberal arts.

A system of principles and methods employed in the performance of a set of activities: the art of building.
A trade or craft that applies such a system of principles and methods: the art of the lexicographer.

Skill that is attained by study, practice, or observation: the art of the baker; the blacksmith's art.
Skill arising from the exercise of intuitive faculties: “Self-criticism is an art not many are qualified to practice” (Joyce Carol Oates).

arts Artful devices, stratagems, and tricks.
Artful contrivance; cunning.
Printing. Illustrative material.


So Its art... but its not... its shapes representing something full of enlightenment, you guys just don't like it becuase its a person kneeling at the cross, and that might just be too hard for you to accept.

Hamsterhead
03-16-2003, 03:01 PM
I think its art, but we shouldn't get into the two extremes,

If you have something too photorealistic, sure its cool, but it can be sterile, and lack anytype of emotion,

There is also the people who say that an unmade bed is art, or that switching a light on and off is art.


(this is my latest peice...I call it, blank space with full stop...


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It represents society in its purest form and that every individual is in charge of their own destiny)

get the point?,

If its an emotional peice by the artist, to themselves, then it is art, anyone else liking it is a bonus.

Hellwolve
03-16-2003, 03:10 PM
Originally posted by BiTMAP
<SNIP>So Its art... but its not... its shapes representing something full of enlightenment, you guys just don't like it becuase its a person kneeling at the cross, and that might just be too hard for you to accept.

I never said anything like that at all! (At the other hand, you probably aren't geting on me personally ;))

But you're right, it doesn't matter much. I just happen to dislike people who present opinions as facts.

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