Slightly OT: Mac Pro running XP Pro anybody? - AdamT?

[v-empire]

Have a dual quad with the ati radeon card,
works very good and stable.

After Installation I had similar problems like you ,
always unreadable crop on the screen during startup,
strange enough only with the apple display I could do the windows installation,
cause no other display showed anything readable in that phase.

After installing the bootcamp drivers, windows claimed that it couldn´t use the graphiccard driver, so I downloaded the latest from ati and installed.
After that it worked in any case, even during startup on any monitor.


The audiodriver doesn´t work yet, but I didn´t try to fix it cause I don´t need audio on that machine. But I´m shure its also only a driver thing.

So go for the latest drivers on the nvidia site.

Holger

[acmepixel]

Make sure you are running 10.4.9 and BootCamp 1.2 with any necessary firmware updates.

I'm running both bootcamp and parallels with xppro on a macbook core2duo and they work just fine. I'm using the FAT32 partition scheme and not the NTFS.

[kromekat]

Hey folks,

Thanks for the replies!

I erased the existing install yesterday, and created another one with Bootcamp. It started fine, but did the same the second or third time restarting. After some further reboots, Windows became visible again (it's got to be something to do with video card drivers), and I downloaded and installed the latest 7300 drivers from NVidia. While it was upright I installed and tried out ZB3! - today, I have restarted into Windows, and it works again.

We shall see if this good fortune continues! ;)

Cheers
Adam

[Rabbitroo]

I'm using ZB under parallels and bootcamp and right now, I haven't had too much need to use bootcamp as the speed is more or less the same at the density's I'm working with.

My only bad experience is windows crashed and took out the ZB license file with it. No matter what I did (uninstall ZB, reinstall ZB) I couldn't license it on that VM. Fortunately I had made a clone of my last stable VM (hoorary for virtual machines!) and was able to use the clone as the basis for my working virtual machine.

Watch out for ZB's new reg system--if it gets corrupted you'll need Pixologic's support to untangle it or you'll have to re-install the OS.

-K

[AdamT]

Sorry I missed this thread. I'm running Windows on a MacPro daily with no real problems *except* for some reason my video performance is not very good and I can't figure out how to get my line-in (Mic) to work. Also, the 3GB switch isn't being recognized.

Other than that, everything works as if it was a regular Windoze machine. Using NTSF, btw. I also have MacDrive installed so I can use the Mac disk in Windows.

[mogh]

I am running an iMac and had serious problems , total freezes after lomger poweroff at first start.

Fixed it by deaktivating Apple brightness which seemed to set the brightness on my second monitor (Eizo) and freezed.

now everthing works slik and fast all standart drivers, i tried different grafic drivers but got an bluescreen, Ill stick with the apple default for a while.

but in the office I am working we have 2 Mac Book Pro with serious speed problems ...

i guess its machine dependend like in the old days, you just have to test or yourself.

cya

[lllab]

hu run a mac pro quad and a octo, both with xp bootcamp.
both did not crash one time and here the 3gb switch is recognized. the only thing is that on winxp the mac only "sees" 2gb physical ram. but the apps can use more than 2gb (~2.7gb) with 3g switch. nevertheless the quad mac seems faster then my similar equipped pc.
on the octo side i have no comparence on pc side;-)

some minor problems like the missing "print" button for screenshots i have but with the rest they are the nicests pcs i ever had.

cheers
stefan

[Per-Anders]

In XP print is F14 on the mac keyboard, osx has several method of screen capture built in, whole screen, region etc, but it doesn't go to the clipboard, instead it's instantly saved on your desktop as a pdf.

[v-empire]

Hi Stefan,
would you mind looking into the Hardwaremanager of your Octo Pc,

on my machine there are 4 exclamation marks

Intel (R) 5000 series chipset pci express x4 port 3
Intel (R) 5000 series chipset pci express x4 port 5
Intel (R) 5000 series chipset pci express x4 port 6
Intel (R) 5000 series chipset pci express x4 port 7

Is this the case on your eightcore too or have you gotten around that somehow.
I don´t even know if it will be a real problem when adding pci cards or so.

Thanks
Holger

[lllab]

this is on all bootcamo betas. dont know if the extra pci slots work as i dont need them...

cheers
stefan

[v-empire]

Thanks, but what does "extra" slots actually mean,

in other words: is it possible to install any pci cards?

Thanks again
Holger

[flyingP]

LOL this sounds like it is going to be fun, just convinced myself to buy windows XP for my mac pro so I could run ZB3 too, wasn't expecting it to be an extra complication though...just hope it doesn't take too long for them to bring out a UB version of ZB3...would be curious to here if you've managed to keep it running stable Adam

[Per-Anders]

I'm using bootcamp with a mac pro octacore here, haven't had any problems at all, running zbrush and all the rest in bootcamp.

You can install additional cards if you want in the extra slots and the pc side will see them. the ? just means that there's no driver there (unrecognised device), which there isn't, bootcamp for some reason tries to fill the slots even though there's nothing in them. Probably an issue that needs to be resolved, remember bootcamp is still beta.

[kromekat]

Thanks for sharing your experiences folks.

I have successfully rebooted into Windows first time again today, but it failed on me on Friday, so it's still hit and miss. When it's running, it's absolutley fine, and ZB3 works beautifully.

I am wondering what screen res everybody is running with XP, since I considered that the 1900x1200 on my ACD 23" was the problem for the gfx drivers (probably nonsense) - I am running it on 1600x1024 now, and I'll see if it continues to become visible hereafter.

I will be getting a refurb MacBook Pro tomorrow to replace my Powerbook G4, so I will also install XP on that, and see how that responds.

Cheers
Adam

[AdamT]

LOL this sounds like it is going to be fun, just convinced myself to buy windows XP for my mac pro so I could run ZB3 too, wasn't expecting it to be an extra complication though...just hope it doesn't take too long for them to bring out a UB version of ZB3...would be curious to here if you've managed to keep it running stable Adam
Yep, extremely stable. ZB3 is a bit flakey, but that's down to Pixologic.

[flyingP]

Yep, extremely stable. ZB3 is a bit flakey, but that's down to Pixologic.

thanks Adam, I actually meant Adam Benton though :D I am down 4 cores on him ( bugger it must earm more cash :banghead: ) but have the same GFX card....or do you also have the same AdamT ? .......ah wtf still waiting on widows XP to be delivered anyway..........or is that a blessing? :D

curious though I have an extra intern drive which I was planning to put it on, anyone had any fun with such a set up?

[AdamT]

Yep, I have Windows on a second drive, which is highly recommended.

[R1PPER]

Ive just ordered a 24" intel imac and was wondering if you can ad a second drive internally?
And how easy it is to upgrade the card to a DX10 one when they become available.

[flyingP]

Yep, I have Windows on a second drive, which is highly recommended.

cool thanks Adam, ;)

[ooo]

I just bumped into these: http://ati.amd.com/support/drivers/mac/bootcamp-xp.html

Special drivers from ATI for Mac's running Bootcamp.

odo

[lllab]

yes i also can comnfirm it workes with more drives. i have 4 drives in it, and the nice thing is you see all 4 under osx too, also the ntfs drives. under xp i see all 3 win drives. that makes it very nice for crossplattform work. as adam said best is to install xp on one of the extra drives.

i really switched to apple workstation totally. if they stay as good as they are, i will never buy a normal pc again i think. macs are cheaper and more reliable these days.

cheers
stefan

[Newstream]

Yep, I have Windows on a second drive, which is highly recommended.

Did you install windows on the second drive via bootcamp? I thought bootcamp only allowed windows installation on the same boot drive as OSX.
Cheers / Alex

[AdamT]

Did you install windows on the second drive via bootcamp? I thought bootcamp only allowed windows installation on the same boot drive as OSX.
Cheers / Alex
I didn't use the normal bootcamp routine. Instead I removed the Applie drive and just installed Windows normally. Then I installed the bootcamp drivers.

[NWoolridge]

Ive just ordered a 24" intel imac and was wondering if you can ad a second drive internally?
And how easy it is to upgrade the card to a DX10 one when they become available.

No the iMacs are limited in terms of their internal expansion. You can add external firewire and USB Hard drives, though.

The 24" iMac uses some odd replaceable format graphics card (with a MXM PCI Express connector) usually used in laptops, but I'm not sure how many replacement options there really are, beyond the two that Apple sells.

Nick

[Augustronïc™]

We're running a renderfarm of 9 IntelMac quad cores using XP64 here. Using Boot Camp to start the installation process we went on installing only XP64 on an own NTFS formatted drive. We got the apropiate drivers searching the web and have fun with Gigs of RAM.

Have a nice day!
Aloha Achim

[lllab]

"Did you install windows on the second drive via bootcamp? I thought bootcamp only allowed windows installation on the same boot drive as OSX.
Cheers / Alex"

yes you can do that. i installed bootcamp on the second disk via the normal bootcamp precedure. i think this issue you are talking was in older bootcamp versions. the current version is 1.2 beta.
installation is extremly easy i think. just as normal pc, and instead of installing the drivers of motherboard you install the apple drivers.

[Newstream]

I didn't use the normal bootcamp routine. Instead I removed the Applie drive and just installed Windows normally. Then I installed the bootcamp drivers.

Interesting approach. I might try that out when I get my machine. Good to know that it works. Thanks for the info.
Cheers / Alex

[Newstream]

"Did you install windows on the second drive via bootcamp? I thought bootcamp only allowed windows installation on the same boot drive as OSX.
Cheers / Alex"

yes you can do that. i installed bootcamp on the second disk via the normal bootcamp precedure. i think this issue you are talking was in older bootcamp versions. the current version is 1.2 beta.
installation is extremly easy i think. just as normal pc, and instead of installing the drivers of motherboard you install the apple drivers.

Thanks for the info.
I wonder if this would work with a MacBook Pro? Has anyone tried this? For example, by installing XP on a 120GB external FireWire or USB drive and only connecting the drive when one needs to run XP. That would really solve my space problems.
Cheers / Alex

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