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ChrisCousins
05-10-2007, 10:07 AM
Hi - hope someone can help. I've got a large-ish scene that I need to double in length ie take from 300 frames to 600. Trouble is that there are a lot of objects and a lot of keys, it's a baked animation so each object has a key for each frame. If I try to use the region tool in the timeline Cinema locks up and updates at around 20s intervals, making this unusable. In R9 I'd have just used the scale sequence tool, scaled 200%, job done - but I can't find a way in R10?

Hope this is simple and I'm just being thick!

Thanks - Chris

Simon Wicker
05-10-2007, 11:01 AM
if you can't alter things in the timeline and you are dealing with a finished chunk of animation you can always adjust the rendered frame rate to increase the length of the animation (i.e. go from 25 to 50 fps in the render settings to halve the speed of the animation).

cheers, simon w.

ChrisCousins
05-10-2007, 11:22 AM
Thanks Simon, that makes sense.
Cheers - Chris

if you can't alter things in the timeline and you are dealing with a finished chunk of animation you can always adjust the rendered frame rate to increase the length of the animation (i.e. go from 25 to 50 fps in the render settings to halve the speed of the animation).

cheers, simon w.

LucentDreams
05-10-2007, 01:58 PM
use object and document tracks, instead of region tools.

If you need to scale several objects don't select their position scale and rotation tracks, just collapse all those and deal with their object tracks, this will reflect all their tracks and when scaled will equally scale all their individual animation tracks. The document track allows you to actually adjust your entire scenes animation on a single track too. to rescale a whole animation form 300 to 600 you select the document track which should select all keys on that track, then simply drag the right handle of the orange selection handle in time area to 600.

Per-Anders
05-10-2007, 06:56 PM
Also you might try the powerslider instead of the main timeline, just select the range with all your keys, then use the edit->fill command to make it expand to fill the whole time in one go (rather than dragging the handles to scale the contents, which wile giving you the most control will be slower).

ChrisCousins
05-10-2007, 10:17 PM
Also you might try the powerslider instead of the main timeline, just select the range with all your keys, then use the edit->fill command to make it expand to fill the whole time in one go (rather than dragging the handles to scale the contents, which wile giving you the most control will be slower).

Thanks for the advice people - all good stuff, and I didn't know anything about the powerslider commands, that's a really handy tip.

Good advice too about collapsing the hierarchy - however with these files I had around 400 objects, all with baked PSR dynamics over 300 frames - even collapsed under a single null this causes Cinema to lock up when dragging the document sliders, .

Anyway - in this case it turned out Simon's tip worked a treat, so cheers for that!

C

LucentDreams
05-10-2007, 11:16 PM
not under a null, I mean the actual animation tracks collapsed, not the hierarchy, and then using the document track, the document track should be faster than any other option.

ChrisCousins
05-10-2007, 11:47 PM
not under a null, I mean the actual animation tracks collapsed, not the hierarchy, and then using the document track, the document track should be faster than any other option.

Just to clarify - do you mean like this?

http://www.chriscousins.plus.com/temp/slider.gif

If I try to drag this Cinema hangs for around a minute, on OSX at any rate.

gildattack
05-11-2007, 01:41 AM
question. If you scale up the whole thing, what happens with the in-between frames (as they are baked? Do they get interpolated? If not, i would double the frame rate and stretch the movie length afterwards...

Zendorf
05-11-2007, 02:22 AM
Chris, just select View>Goto Main Level and you will see "Document" as the top parent node with everything else parented below it. Select Document to rescale all objects. Tis a beautiful feature of r10 :thumbsup:

LucentDreams
05-11-2007, 03:21 AM
thanks zendorf, I was busy making a pic, fits well with what you wrote.

http://www.kaithestuffguy.com/maxontemp/document.jpg

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