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WarByRender
03-14-2003, 02:30 AM
Hi

I need to transport data between 2 physical locations and between a mac and a pc. I was thinking about either a portable hard drive, usb memory, or zip drives, etc.

Is it possible to place files on any of the above storage devices using a mac, and then access the files using a pc and vice versa.


any help or other ideas would be great. thxs.

dvornik
03-14-2003, 03:06 AM
It depends on the volume of data.

The easiest way is to use PC-formatted zip disks. Macs can read and write on PC zips. OS X can even format a zip disk for PC. External zip drives work on macs and PCs without any problems.

You can burn stuff to CDRs or CDRWs if you have burners - that's what i would do for one-time data transfer.

If you use a firewire portable drive make sure it's formatted as fat32, not NTFS which is a windows NT (and 2000 and XP) file system. Mac OS can't read NTFS. Linux sometimes can read it but can't write properly. If you already have a drive like that and there's firewire in both mac and PC that would be the best way. Even USB drives would do the job, but slowly.

You may need to tell PCs which program they need to open the files with and resave them cause OS 9 has no file extentions (windows will ask you). OS X uses extentions and most files should open on PCs automatically, provided you have an applications that can open them.

GregHess
03-14-2003, 03:20 AM
Also look for an application called "macopener". Its pretty inexpensive, sometimes even included in a package of products as a freebie. We network out pc's and os x mac's at work with seamless file transfers back and forth between the two.

dvornik
03-14-2003, 04:01 AM
Macopener is a PC program that lets your PC read and write on mac disks. If you think you need that kind of application (which I don't think you do for a one-time transfer) try Macdrive instead. It seems to take less resourses and is more reliable.

Personally I paid $50 for Macopener back when all my courses were taught on a mac but I've only used it for a couple of months because i realised I didn't need it.

Some programs claim to automate file conversion for you (Conversion Plus which I haven't tried) but there are still other fundamental problems like fonts incompatibility and stuff like that that either have to be ignored or solved in some rather ingenious ways.

WarByRender
03-14-2003, 04:51 AM
thx for the help guys:thumbsup:
just to clear something up though. it isnt a one off transfer, i will be transfering data on a weekly basis.

elvis
03-14-2003, 05:01 AM
i've got myself a USB disk on key (or USB flash ram, or whatever they call it these days) that works well. it's only 128MB, but transfers what i need between mac, linux and windows without hassle, plus it's always on my keyring which means i never lose it. :)

dvornik
03-14-2003, 05:29 AM
How much data are you talking about? All of the above would work generally.

What hardware is available at the moment? Which ports do the machines have?

WarByRender
03-14-2003, 07:21 AM
the macs are g4s so i was guessing firewire would be the way to go, and i was going to get a firewire card for my pc.

I need to transport texture libs, photoshop and director files, stock photos, etc between uni (g4s) and home (pc) on a regular basis.

thx, the help has been great :beer:

dvornik
03-14-2003, 07:41 AM
Get a portable firewire drive. We use those, they are a bit old:
http://www.smartdisk.com/Products/Storage%20Products/Hard%20Drives/CombHDD.asp
They need drivers for USB on PC but firewire works plug-and-play cross-platform. Don't know about their newer models, they look allright. LaCie seem to be popular as well.

[edit] Or an i-pod btw.
[edit] And make sure your school doesn't mind you plugging the drive in - can be an issue.

GregHess
03-14-2003, 11:25 AM
Originally posted by elvis
i've got myself a USB disk on key (or USB flash ram, or whatever they call it these days) that works well. it's only 128MB, but transfers what i need between mac, linux and windows without hassle, plus it's always on my keyring which means i never lose it. :)

Thats a freaking great idea elvis!

Btw dvornik...the main reason I put macopener on there, was to show off to the old mac heads. They think its some sort of miracle when the pc's read the mac zip disks. :)

dmeyer
03-14-2003, 12:05 PM
Go for an iPod...

beaker
03-14-2003, 04:09 PM
Originally posted by GregHess
Btw dvornik...the main reason I put macopener on there, was to show off to the old mac heads. They think its some sort of miracle when the pc's read the mac zip disks. :)
Macopener has been around for around 10 years. You would think they would have heard of it by now. :)

elvis
03-14-2003, 11:04 PM
Originally posted by GregHess
Thats a freaking great idea elvis!

i carry close to 100MB of my favourite tools/drivers/utilities for each OS that my clients use, so i know whereever i am they're close at hand. any win2k or better, OSX 10.0 or better, or linux 2.4 kernel or better system will mount and read a FAT drive without any dramas.

and if my client doesn't have the above, then it's about time they upgraded. :)

dvornik
03-15-2003, 02:59 AM
Damn, elvis. Now that I think of it I want one too. I'm spending way too much money lately... Here's the best one (performance-wize) I could find, it's usb2:
Go to buy.com, search for C3KWVF 256 MB for $100, f/s;
and here's the best deal:
C6L5U4 - $40 for 128 mb, USB 1.
From lexar (http://www.lexarmedia.com/jumpdrive/index.html).

Other manufacturers:
ezdisk (http://www.ezdisk.com/products.php)
usbdrive (http://www.usbdrive.com/website/index.html)
agate (http://www.agatetech.com/products_q.html)
diskonkey (http://www.diskonkey.com/) , which seems to be the most mainstream (apple and fuji sell them).

elvis
03-15-2003, 03:10 AM
mine's only USB1.1, so it's much slower than disk to disk or firewire transfer.

if i have some spare cash i might go for a USB2.0 model later on, but that won't really benefit me until most of the places i work for utilise USB2.0.

dvornik
03-15-2003, 07:48 AM
Allright since I spend my weekend shopping anyway...
In the US amazon has the usb2 256 mb drive (search for "jumpdrive") for $126. Minus $10 (MAPAMEXCARDS) minus $20 rebate (http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B00007K3A3.01.RB01.LZZZZZZZ.jpg) minus $30 if you apply and get their credit card (? (www.xpbargains.com/jump.php?deal=amazon), may be over already) = $66 f/s.

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