Vehicle: "Concept" car

[Soeren Nielsen]

The surface is looking much better now.. Now get some more detail on it, still looking too plain :)

[urgaffel]

Soeren is right, you need to get some detail! The body is too smooth :)

[Viper.dk]

Yeah, guys - I know about the detail. Gotta add some stuff here and there - like build seams, or what you would call them.
Don't know if I'll add them on this car, but time will tell (or perhaps I will).

Anyway, thanks for the comments ;)

Doing some cleaning of the mesh right now. There's a few errors here and there (imagine that, being my first (actually semi-second) model ever). Some are fixable, some I just f***ed up real good in the beginning. They're not too bad though.

[Syrogen]

great mesh man, but i think you should work on those headlights

[Carina]

Since I'm not very into cars, I can't really get down to details..

But I really like the look of it. :thumbsup:

[Steam]

It looks like a hybrid of 2 or more cars...
One of them definetly is Dodge Viper - not from the side but from front and back

Really nice!

[Viper.dk]

Here's a few flat material no-skylight renders:

http://www.viper.dk/stuff/images/3D/Unspecified_car/modeling/body_test_03.jpg
http://www.viper.dk/stuff/images/3D/Unspecified_car/modeling/body_test_04.jpg

Did some cleaning up of the mesh o_O

Steam: It has some similarities to the Viper GTS, but that's mostly the roof.
I've not combined any cars, I just got inspired by different cars.
For instance: The roof is from the Viper GTS.
The exhaust is from the Mercedes SL500.
The front is somewhat Viper/Mazda MX-5 (Miata).
I just got a lot of ideas from current cars, to have some base in what I modeled :)

Syrogen: Yeah, know about the lights. But they scare me ;)

[dark_lotus]

Thats looking insane man!

Great Stuff!

[SteffanPoulsen]

:applause: Awesome stuff !! :applause:

You clearly have a great understanding of poportions :thumbsup:
A suggestion might be that you make the arches a bit sharper and noticeable. And not quite as smooth.

Anyways this is going to be great once finished Good Job ! :drool:

[Morbid Angel]

hay great model...juts curious what kind of hdri is lighting it? if its at all hdri...

[nalhcal]

What do you think about adding the vent style things that ferarris have?

[Viper.dk]

Morbid Angel: I'm using the Uffizi HDRI map for reflection and using a plain color skylight for illumination. Should use the HDRI map, but using the plain color saves some rendertime. Probably gonna change it to the HDRI map later.

nalhcal: The Testarossa styled air intake in the doors?

[Viper.dk]

Here's a close up of the brakes, just for the hell of it:

http://www.viper.dk/stuff/images/3D/Unspecified_car/modeling/body_81.jpg

[Viper.dk]

Here's a 360 degree animation. Both in QuickTime and DivX 5.0.3 flavour.

QuickTime (2.8 MB) (http://www.viper.dk/stuff/images/3D/Unspecified_car/modeling/360_01.mov)
DivX 5.0.3 (1.7 MB) (http://www.viper.dk/stuff/images/3D/Unspecified_car/modeling/360_01.avi)

[Viper.dk]

Here's a far better close up. Better material. Both on the brakes and the rims.

http://www.viper.dk/stuff/images/3D/Unspecified_car/modeling/body_86.jpg

Comments and suggestions are still more than welcome :wip:

[santiago]

looking good man

[Viper.dk]

Tweaked the materials a bit and made the brake disc vented :)

http://www.viper.dk/stuff/images/3D/Unspecified_car/modeling/body_92.jpg

[mihkeltt]

the rear from the side looks just like maseratti's

[rejekt]

I can't help but say that the front end looks like a Eclipse crossed with a Pug(yes the dog)....the flatness of the "nose"

[BluesManJF]

Hi Viper.dk
it´s ok?
so..
i wanna if you can post that red object that is in the brake..
dont need to be your model (if youn dont want it)..
can be a photo..
it´s cose im doing the intire tire and the only thing that is missing is that object! and i dont know very well how it looks like..
thanks a lot

[Viper.dk]

BluesManJF: Here's a few images I gathered from around the net. Hope they'll help. :thumbsup:

http://www.bug-bits.freeserve.co.uk/ramva/fiche/t205200.gif
http://www.yotarepair.com/ToyImages/Disc%20brake%20picture.jpg
http://freespace.virgin.net/bob.carter/images/caliperon2.JPG
http://www.fourwheels.org/elise/gallery/brake-caliper.jpg
http://www.project-mu.co.jp/product-folder/caliper/k-car/image/00.jpg
http://www.ultimategarage.com/MovitFront.jpg
http://www.ultimategarage.com/MovFront2.jpg
http://www.ultimategarage.com/MovitRear.jpg
http://www.toadhallracing.com/GT3FrtBrake.jpg

rejekt: The front design is one of the things I like the most about the car :) But you might be right on the likeness. I didn't really look at anything, when I designed the nose. Just kinda made it :wip:

[Viper.dk]

Finally started adding lights to the car. Although they scare me, I think it's going somewhat ok.
I'll probably end up remaking them a few million times and what not, but here's how they look at the moment.

http://www.viper.dk/stuff/images/3D/Unspecified_car/modeling/tail_lights_06.jpg

Suggestions on how to improve them is more than welcome! :wavey:

[BluesManJF]

hi again Viper.dk
can you explain me one thing??
so..
you sad..
"I'm using the Uffizi HDRI map for reflection and using a plain color skylight for illumination. Should use the HDRI map, but using the plain color saves some rendertime. Probably gonna change it to the HDRI map later.

so.. i´ve been try to do that.. but the car becames very very reflective..

look what i did..
i put the hdri map at the " reflection" guide of the car body material and with spherical environment.
set the sky to white color.
since im using max5´s light tracer.. i put bouces=2
but when rendering.. the car apear with clouds for every side of it!
seems that its painted with clouds!

can you give me a hint?
thanksssssssss

[Viper.dk]

BluesManJF: Do you have a thread with your progress? That could be really helpful, since you could post pictures of your problems in there - and get a lot more help ;)

Anyway - it sounds to me that you're missing a ground plane of some sort? And if it's too reflective, turn down the output strenght of the HDRI map - or your car shader, if it's too high on that.

[BluesManJF]

Originally posted by Viper.dk
BluesManJF: Do you have a thread with your progress? That could be really helpful, since you could post pictures of your problems in there - and get a lot more help ;)

Anyway - it sounds to me that you're missing a ground plane of some sort? And if it's too reflective, turn down the output strenght of the HDRI map - or your car shader, if it's too high on that.

hi again.. and thanks for you patience..
so..
im in job now.. and i dont have the pictures with the problem that i sad.. but i have one picture(wich is not with hdri map) that can give you some idea of what im trying to explain
http://www.artnet.com.br/~cledson/etc/esc01.jpg
so.. look at the side.. see that green reflection?
so.. when i was using the hdr images at the body, the car was entire cover of clouds(cose in that case i used a hdri map of clouds)

somebody told me to put a white objet over the car to give the some reflection...

ill put some images with the problem to you.. but i dont thave these now... ill put it in a few days..
thanks a lot

[Viper.dk]

Here's a shot of some new light chambers for the tail lights. This will probably be the design of them. Now I just need to do the inner workings of them.

http://www.viper.dk/stuff/images/3D/Unspecified_car/modeling/tail_lights_14.jpg

I know there's a few mesh errors, where the reflection gets weird and such. I'll get those cleaned up soon.


BluesManJF: Seems to me that your ground plane is way to small. That might be the problem. You should make it huge as hell.

[BluesManJF]

hey viper..
you model is great
so..
look how is my one now..
http://www.artnet.com.br/~cledson/etc/escb.jpg
but it continues so reflexive!
i put a falloff map in the reflection guide from black to white.. and in the white color i put a raytrace map..
can you give me some tip about that?
thanks a LOT!

[Viper.dk]

Here's an update of the tail lights. They're done, now they just need to get tweaked, so they look real.
There is glass in front of them, it's just a bit too transparent, but I gotta fix that.

http://www.viper.dk/stuff/images/3D/Unspecified_car/modeling/tail_lights_18.jpg

Tips, comments and/or suggestions anyone? =)


BluesManJF: You need a ground plane and then you need to tweak the settings of your material and HDRI map. I can't help you with the settings of the material, I use Brazil and not standard MAX.

[BluesManJF]

Originally posted by Viper.dk

BluesManJF: You need a ground plane and then you need to tweak the settings of your material and HDRI map. I can't help you with the settings of the material, I use Brazil and not standard MAX. [/B]
hi! your model is very nice!
perfect!
and...
thanks a lot for you patience..
so.. i´ve changed the ground but didnt used hdri yet cose im without enough memory to do that..
if you have some time.. give a look athttp://www.cgtalk.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=53153
ill try after use brazil to see how the materials works..
thanks again!

[rrobert]

Jum Jum!!! wow :buttrock: awesome
I wish I'd do it better!! :p

Great work.

[Viper.dk]

Here's a 360 render with the tail lights - and another shot of the tail lights - just for fun.

360 animation:
QuickTime (2 MB) (http://www.viper.dk/stuff/images/3D/Unspecified_car/modeling/360_02.mov)
DivX (1.2 MB) (http://www.viper.dk/stuff/images/3D/Unspecified_car/modeling/360_02.avi)

http://www.viper.dk/stuff/images/3D/Unspecified_car/modeling/tail_lights_21.jpg

And a few shots of it in red. Just because I felt like it.

http://www.viper.dk/stuff/images/3D/Unspecified_car/modeling/body_93.jpg
http://www.viper.dk/stuff/images/3D/Unspecified_car/modeling/body_94.jpg

Still got a lot of work a head of me, but I think it's coming along nicely :) At least I'm learning a lot :cool:

[BluesManJF]

beautiful!!!!!!!
amazing!
great work!
hey viper.. im now using brazil
man.. it is soooooooooo fast!
the render is really good!
can you give a look at my topics?
thanks a lot.. and.. congratulations!
http://www.cgtalk.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=53153&perpage=15&pagenumber=2

[Duffman]

damn, looking great! Excellent design, and very well modeled. It's coming together nicely, the taillight especially have improved a ton. Keep going!

Just out of curiousity though, what did you use for a reflection map? It looks like an HDRI to me, but can you be specific on what HDRI you used and how you used it? It would help me out a lot. Thanks! :beer:

[Viper.dk]

Thanks for the comments :bounce:

I'm still not quite happy with the tail lights, but I'll work on them every now and then and try and get some reference material, to check how they look a bit more close-up.

The HDRI map is Uffizi. It's mapped to a sphere I can then adjust. The environment is not final. I'll tweak that to hell and back, when the car's done. But for now it works ok.

I've also noticed that the rear is really flat. That's not looking all that good. Gonna give it some tweakage later :)

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